Anyone who has done extensive searches through archives has seen how common the name 'Newton' given as a middle or first name was. I've given up thinking it has any significance. After all, Sir Isaac Newton was quite famous by then. Judy jryden@charter.net A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. On Mar 25, 2006, at 11:35 35 PM, Gregg Bonner wrote: > I am not sure what to make of it, but I found the > twins in the HELTON household in 1850. James Newton > Todd (1839-1933) was the son of Sarah Ann (Helton) > Todd. > > I wonder where the "Newton" in James Newton Todd > originates. It seems it wouldn't be purely neighborly, > since James Newton Todd was born (presumably) before > those NEWTON kids had to find a new home circa 1843. > > It might be helpful for you to list the names of Amos > Newton's grandkids. There may be other onomastic > clues. > > Best, > > Gregg > > > > > --- OLSONDOT@aol.com wrote: > >> I am daily following the information on Va Newtons >> and wish I could get back >> that far. I have a brick wall in Amos Newton who >> married Jane Arthur/Arter >> in 1823 in Whitely Co, KY. She was in Knox Co. KY >> He died in Indiana, >> probably Jackson Co. about 1843 >> >> The have a Nancy, Martha, twins, Elisha and Elijah, >> Amos, Joseph, and John >> and a Susannah Jane who is my direct line. >> >> Do any of these VA Newtons go to Ky or Indiana? >> Thanks for all your >> wonderful information. Dottie >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com

Gay, I did a search and found this: Confereate States of America in 1861 Isac Mitchell Newton entered the Civil War Service August 23, 1861. He died from tetanus and a crushed hand in CSA on November 29, 1861. Emma Burns Nalley's father brought his body in a wagon., Thomas Buford Burns. Mitchell's name is on Newton monument with Billy & Elmina, his parents. Bryan

Bryan, Isaac M. Newton is listed in 1860 Pickens Co, S.C. Did he marry? He is listed as being age 20 and born in Anderson Co, S.C., he is still in the household with his father and mother. If he died in 1861 and married after the 1860 census, he may have not had any children or no more than one maybe. Do you have him as haveing married and with children? Gay Nix BRYAN NEWTON <bryannewton27@verizon.net> wrote: I need some help finding Isaac. I only have his birth and death date. I would like to find his wife and childern. He died 29 nov 1861. Bryan Newton Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

I need some help finding Isaac. I only have his birth and death date. I would like to find his wife and childern. He died 29 nov 1861. Bryan Newton

I am not sure what to make of it, but I found the twins in the HELTON household in 1850. James Newton Todd (1839-1933) was the son of Sarah Ann (Helton) Todd. I wonder where the "Newton" in James Newton Todd originates. It seems it wouldn't be purely neighborly, since James Newton Todd was born (presumably) before those NEWTON kids had to find a new home circa 1843. It might be helpful for you to list the names of Amos Newton's grandkids. There may be other onomastic clues. Best, Gregg --- OLSONDOT@aol.com wrote: > I am daily following the information on Va Newtons > and wish I could get back > that far. I have a brick wall in Amos Newton who > married Jane Arthur/Arter > in 1823 in Whitely Co, KY. She was in Knox Co. KY > He died in Indiana, > probably Jackson Co. about 1843 > > The have a Nancy, Martha, twins, Elisha and Elijah, > Amos, Joseph, and John > and a Susannah Jane who is my direct line. > > Do any of these VA Newtons go to Ky or Indiana? > Thanks for all your > wonderful information. Dottie > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I forgot to mention in my Amos inquiry one bit of information that has been puzzling to me. My line lived in Edgar Co. Ill at one time in late 1870. I found a bio of a neighbor which read "A. W. Newton, physician and surgeon, is a native of Westmoreland Co, Va. Was born June 2l, l806. He left his parents' home with an older brother, William, a resident of Albany, N.Y. who gave him the advantage of a good literary education......he graduated in 1832 at the Penn. U. of Medicine; in 1835, he emigrated to Kentucky and took up his residence near Paris, Bourbon, Co. in l870, he came to Edgar Co, Illinois. I have never been able to verify who he is but he lived in a tiny village with my other relatives at the same time, and I suspect there was some connection. By this time, Amos who md Jane was dead but the daughter Susannah Jane Newton had married and was in the same area, so perhaps there is a connection. Ring any bells??? Thanks, Dottie

I am daily following the information on Va Newtons and wish I could get back that far. I have a brick wall in Amos Newton who married Jane Arthur/Arter in 1823 in Whitely Co, KY. She was in Knox Co. KY He died in Indiana, probably Jackson Co. about 1843 The have a Nancy, Martha, twins, Elisha and Elijah, Amos, Joseph, and John and a Susannah Jane who is my direct line. Do any of these VA Newtons go to Ky or Indiana? Thanks for all your wonderful information. Dottie

Hi Newton Listers Surnames of interest include: NEWTON; DUNCAN; CARTER; MELTON; HARRIS; GLOVER; JAMES; WOODSON; SCRUGGS; Recent postings regarding Newton families in and about Virginia have caught my attention and prompted me to add this information about my family and see if anyone "connects". I haven't been able to discern any direct connection in anyone else's posting myself, but I'll try to include enough detail so possibly someone will recognize some familiar names. My oldest Newton ancestor is the subject John NEWTON Sr who's estate was probated in Cumberland County, VA, on 26 Jan 1795. I don't know his parent(s) name(s) or his date or place of birth, but from the ages of his children it seems likely that he was born ca.1730 and he first appears in Cumberland County records ca. 1760. Probate proceedings indicate the following: 1. His Widow was Lucretia (nee?) and she was appointed guardian of her & John's minor daughter Susanna. 2. I've found no documentation that Lucretia was the mother of any, some or all of the other 8 surviving children named in the settlement. 3. The other children named in the probate are: I. Mary(Molly) NEWTON; married Jacob DUNCAN Sr. her date of birth presumed to be in 1850's as other sources indicate that her eldest child was b. Jan 1775. II. Elizabeth NEWTON; married Shadrack CARTER, records indicate born before 1765. III. Sarah (Sally NEWTON; married Pearce Wade MELTON Sr. IV. Nancy NEWTON; married William MELTON V. William NEWTON; married Frances HARRIS, born before 1765, executor of the estate. VI. John NEWTON Jr.; married Nancy GLOVER, born after 1765, died 1812 my ancestor. VII. Joseph NEWTON Sr.; married Elizabeth GLOVER(Nancy's sister), born after 1765. VIII. Charles NEWTON; married Nancy JAMES, born after 1765 There are at least 3 other NEWTON families in/around 1800-1820 Cumberland County. A. There is another Charles contemporaneous with VIII. above(both in 1810 census) that I presume to be the Charles NEWTON that married Nancy WOODSON and remained in Cumberland County where he died in 1823 and she died in 1846. I have seen claims that this Charles' father was George NEWTON B. There was a James NEWTON that I have seen attributed as a son of the subject John NEWTON Sr in some postings. Apparently that is an error in light of the probate. C. Also there are postings about a Mary NEWTON that was born in Cumberland County ca 1796 whose father was Isaac NEWTON, that married Thomas SCRUGGS. If there is anyone mentioned above that you have information about I'd be happy to share what I have that you might want/need and welcome your correction of any errors that I have made. And finally, (I beg your pardon if this part seems selfish) it seems to me that it only makes sense, considering all the recent traffic on this list about the John, Isaac, William, Willoughby, George, Jesse and so on NEWTONs that seem to trace their roots to/through Virginia, that any researcher that is serious about determining where they stem from, would, if they are a surnamed NEWTON male {or persuade a brother, uncle, cousin that represents their male NEWTON line in they're not}, want to participate in the NEWTON DNA project and help us all to better answer who connects to who!! [or is it whom?] Even a "no match" helps determine where not to look and a match could be a real breakthrough!! And even if you don't think you attach to Virginia, your Newtons come from some where and chances are there is another Newton out there that traces back to the same place. "Where do I go?" you say, : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gbonner/newtondna/ Thanks for your attention -- Darwin Newton Cambridge KS 67023 denewton@sktc.net

Your welcome Kay Stange <kaystange@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Gay, This sounds VERY right. Thank you for sending me this information. Since posting my email last night, I've had a major breakthrough in my search efforts. And this is because of the wonderful information that both Darwin Newton and you provided. I am so very grateful to both of you! Kay PS. By the way, I have a hand-written compilation by Ermina Newton Leonard, that was published 1915 and copied from the "Newton Genealogy" for E.H. Newton, Oshkosh, Wis. It covers the line of Richard Newton (b. 1601) from Sudbury England who arrived in America around 1638 and died in August 1701. If you or any of the other Newton posters would like to have this information, please let me know. -----Original Message----- From: LYNDON NIX [mailto:warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:08 AM To: NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NEWTON-L] Family Record Of Isaac Newton Kay, I find your family in 1850 in Lauderdale Co, Miss Merdian township.Your grandfather was right. John S Newton was son of William and Elizabeth Newton. William was born in N.C. ca 1808 and Elizabeth was born 1810 in S.C., there were children listed as Benjamin, Laura, Rebecca, John S., William, Sarah and Betsy. They were there in 1860 and by 1870 William and Elizabeth were along, children all gone from household. I find in 1870 Falls Co, Tx John Newton and wife Tabitha her name was hard to read. 1900 census shows for Madison Co, Tx John Newton born in June age 60 md 39 years and born S.C. and Father born N.C. and Mother born S.C. Had son Henry Sept 1882 age 19 Tx Olive Dean a daughter born June 1878 Tx her husband Milton Dean and Julian Dean born June 1897 Tx. Does this sound right? Hope this helps you get started. Gay Nix Kay Stange wrote: Gay, I see that your Newtons are VA/SC/GA/AL/TX. Although "Newton" is not an unusual name, and it is my maiden name, it's been the hardest one to find info on in my genealogical searchings. NO ONE seems to have heard of any of my Newton folks. So, since I saw TX in your geographical listing, I thought "why not throw the questions out there" (yet again) to see if any of her Texans link up to any of mine. Here is some information: * My great grandfather was JS Newton (b. 6-24-1839 in MS and d. 6-18-1908 in TX). JS stands for either John Sims, John Seth, Jasper Sims, or Jasper Seth. We just don't know. My grandfather, William Henry Newton, always insisted that his father JS was from Meridien, MS. * He married MA (Malissa Ann) Eaves (b. 1-14-1841 in MS and d. 11-21-1901 TX) in Mississippi (Lawrence Co, it's believed.) * JS served in the Confederacy, Company C, 41st Mississippi Regiment, from January 1862 to June 1864. He was badly wounded. I have a photo copy of a Confederate Pension Application he submitted in 1899. The pension application was denied stating that he "owned too much property to qualify for pension". Apparently, he had trouble working the land with a useless, deformed arm (which he had ultimately lost by that time), and a chest wound (both from the war) that left him weak. * At the time he submitted the pension application, he and MA lived in Midway (Madison County), Texas, and had been there for 8 years. I don't know where they were prior to that (Mississippi? Another area in Texas?). * In listing his property, the pension app states that he had: "200 acres of land in Madison County in H. Walker Teague, of the value of $500.00. Two mules value $80, two cows and two calves value $40. 10 head of hogs value $15.00". (I was born, raised, and lived all but 9 years in Texas, but I'm unfamiliar with H. Walker Teague.is that another county?) * I also have pages which I saved, that were at some point, torn from a family bible. The following folks' names appear on those pages. I don't know their relation to JS and MA. My grandfather, William Henry Newton, was one of JS' and MA's children. They had others. I cannot tell from the pages if these people are the children of JS and MA, or siblings, cousins, or.? Anyway, their names are: --Indiana A Newton (b. 04-6-1862) --JJ Newton (b. 05-12-1866) --Marion May Levest (Levert?) Newton (b. 03-14-1875) --Mary Ollevia (Ollivia?) Newton (b. 06-29-1879) If these folks lived, or when/who they may have married, or when they later died, all remains a mystery. * Finally, I know my grandfather had a sister, and her nickname was "Willie". We all called her "Aunt Willie". I don't remember anything more about her. My grandfather always said our family came across the ocean way back when. Unfortunately, I can't even trace them out of Texas! If you, Gay, or any other Newton researchers have any information, I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Kay (Newton) Stange -----Original Message----- From: LYNDON NIX [mailto:warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:46 PM To: NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEWTON-L] Family Record Of Isaac Newton Sorry I haven't, My Newton's were out of Va and S.C., and Ga to Ala to Texas. Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

Hi Sandy, Yes, this is my John S. What has been so confusing is that the family has, on occasion, believed his name to be Jasper. Since I'm finding more information of late (thank you Darwin and Gay!), I'm pretty sure Jasper must be another name that often appears in the family, but John must be my gggrandfather's name. Thank you for providing me the source information for your findings, and I appreciate your efforts in providing it to me. I will certainly follow the leads you gave me. Good luck with your own family searching. If I can help in any way, please let me know. Thanks! Kay -----Original Message----- From: Sandy H. [mailto:san198@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:29 AM To: NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NEWTON-L] John S. Newton Marriage Kay I found this marriage listed...Hope it helps.. Mississippi Marriages, 1776-1935 Record Name: M. A. Eaves Spouse: John S. Newton Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1860 County: Lauderdale // // Source Information: Hunting For Bears, comp. Mississippi Marriages, 1776-1935 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Mississippi marriage information taken from county courthouse records. Many of these records were extracted from copies of the original records in microfilm, microfiche, or book format, located at the Family History Library. Kay Stange <kaystange@comcast.net> wrote: Gay, I see that your Newtons are VA/SC/GA/AL/TX. Although "Newton" is not an unusual name, and it is my maiden name, it's been the hardest one to find info on in my genealogical searchings. NO ONE seems to have heard of any of my Newton folks. So, since I saw TX in your geographical listing, I thought "why not throw the questions out there" (yet again) to see if any of her Texans link up to any of mine.

Hi Gay, This sounds VERY right. Thank you for sending me this information. Since posting my email last night, I've had a major breakthrough in my search efforts. And this is because of the wonderful information that both Darwin Newton and you provided. I am so very grateful to both of you! Kay PS. By the way, I have a hand-written compilation by Ermina Newton Leonard, that was published 1915 and copied from the "Newton Genealogy" for E.H. Newton, Oshkosh, Wis. It covers the line of Richard Newton (b. 1601) from Sudbury England who arrived in America around 1638 and died in August 1701. If you or any of the other Newton posters would like to have this information, please let me know. -----Original Message----- From: LYNDON NIX [mailto:warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:08 AM To: NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NEWTON-L] Family Record Of Isaac Newton Kay, I find your family in 1850 in Lauderdale Co, Miss Merdian township.Your grandfather was right. John S Newton was son of William and Elizabeth Newton. William was born in N.C. ca 1808 and Elizabeth was born 1810 in S.C., there were children listed as Benjamin, Laura, Rebecca, John S., William, Sarah and Betsy. They were there in 1860 and by 1870 William and Elizabeth were along, children all gone from household. I find in 1870 Falls Co, Tx John Newton and wife Tabitha her name was hard to read. 1900 census shows for Madison Co, Tx John Newton born in June age 60 md 39 years and born S.C. and Father born N.C. and Mother born S.C. Had son Henry Sept 1882 age 19 Tx Olive Dean a daughter born June 1878 Tx her husband Milton Dean and Julian Dean born June 1897 Tx. Does this sound right? Hope this helps you get started. Gay Nix Kay Stange <kaystange@comcast.net> wrote: Gay, I see that your Newtons are VA/SC/GA/AL/TX. Although "Newton" is not an unusual name, and it is my maiden name, it's been the hardest one to find info on in my genealogical searchings. NO ONE seems to have heard of any of my Newton folks. So, since I saw TX in your geographical listing, I thought "why not throw the questions out there" (yet again) to see if any of her Texans link up to any of mine. Here is some information: * My great grandfather was JS Newton (b. 6-24-1839 in MS and d. 6-18-1908 in TX). JS stands for either John Sims, John Seth, Jasper Sims, or Jasper Seth. We just don't know. My grandfather, William Henry Newton, always insisted that his father JS was from Meridien, MS. * He married MA (Malissa Ann) Eaves (b. 1-14-1841 in MS and d. 11-21-1901 TX) in Mississippi (Lawrence Co, it's believed.) * JS served in the Confederacy, Company C, 41st Mississippi Regiment, from January 1862 to June 1864. He was badly wounded. I have a photo copy of a Confederate Pension Application he submitted in 1899. The pension application was denied stating that he "owned too much property to qualify for pension". Apparently, he had trouble working the land with a useless, deformed arm (which he had ultimately lost by that time), and a chest wound (both from the war) that left him weak. * At the time he submitted the pension application, he and MA lived in Midway (Madison County), Texas, and had been there for 8 years. I don't know where they were prior to that (Mississippi? Another area in Texas?). * In listing his property, the pension app states that he had: "200 acres of land in Madison County in H. Walker Teague, of the value of $500.00. Two mules value $80, two cows and two calves value $40. 10 head of hogs value $15.00". (I was born, raised, and lived all but 9 years in Texas, but I'm unfamiliar with H. Walker Teague.is that another county?) * I also have pages which I saved, that were at some point, torn from a family bible. The following folks' names appear on those pages. I don't know their relation to JS and MA. My grandfather, William Henry Newton, was one of JS' and MA's children. They had others. I cannot tell from the pages if these people are the children of JS and MA, or siblings, cousins, or.? Anyway, their names are: --Indiana A Newton (b. 04-6-1862) --JJ Newton (b. 05-12-1866) --Marion May Levest (Levert?) Newton (b. 03-14-1875) --Mary Ollevia (Ollivia?) Newton (b. 06-29-1879) If these folks lived, or when/who they may have married, or when they later died, all remains a mystery. * Finally, I know my grandfather had a sister, and her nickname was "Willie". We all called her "Aunt Willie". I don't remember anything more about her. My grandfather always said our family came across the ocean way back when. Unfortunately, I can't even trace them out of Texas! If you, Gay, or any other Newton researchers have any information, I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Kay (Newton) Stange -----Original Message----- From: LYNDON NIX [mailto:warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:46 PM To: NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEWTON-L] Family Record Of Isaac Newton Sorry I haven't, My Newton's were out of Va and S.C., and Ga to Ala to Texas. Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

I am looking for these following Newtons: I. Elizabeth Newton born 1813 (Father William Newton Sr born 1774 in Mecklenburg Co, VA) 2. John Newton born in 11 may 1797 in VA? (Has the same father) 3. Isaac Newton born 31 dec 1799 (has the same father) Jane Newton born in 1772 in VA and died 11 nov 1822 (Father John Newton born 1750 in VA) Bryan

Kay I found this marriage listed...Hope it helps.. Mississippi Marriages, 1776-1935 Record Name: M. A. Eaves Spouse: John S. Newton Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1860 County: Lauderdale // // Source Information: Hunting For Bears, comp. Mississippi Marriages, 1776-1935 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Mississippi marriage information taken from county courthouse records. Many of these records were extracted from copies of the original records in microfilm, microfiche, or book format, located at the Family History Library. Kay Stange <kaystange@comcast.net> wrote: Gay, I see that your Newtons are VA/SC/GA/AL/TX. Although "Newton" is not an unusual name, and it is my maiden name, it's been the hardest one to find info on in my genealogical searchings. NO ONE seems to have heard of any of my Newton folks. So, since I saw TX in your geographical listing, I thought "why not throw the questions out there" (yet again) to see if any of her Texans link up to any of mine.

Kay, I find your family in 1850 in Lauderdale Co, Miss Merdian township.Your grandfather was right. John S Newton was son of William and Elizabeth Newton. William was born in N.C. ca 1808 and Elizabeth was born 1810 in S.C., there were children listed as Benjamin, Laura, Rebecca, John S., William, Sarah and Betsy. They were there in 1860 and by 1870 William and Elizabeth were along, children all gone from household. I find in 1870 Falls Co, Tx John Newton and wife Tabitha her name was hard to read. 1900 census shows for Madison Co, Tx John Newton born in June age 60 md 39 years and born S.C. and Father born N.C. and Mother born S.C. Had son Henry Sept 1882 age 19 Tx Olive Dean a daughter born June 1878 Tx her husband Milton Dean and Julian Dean born June 1897 Tx. Does this sound right? Hope this helps you get started. Gay Nix Kay Stange <kaystange@comcast.net> wrote: Gay, I see that your Newtons are VA/SC/GA/AL/TX. Although "Newton" is not an unusual name, and it is my maiden name, it's been the hardest one to find info on in my genealogical searchings. NO ONE seems to have heard of any of my Newton folks. So, since I saw TX in your geographical listing, I thought "why not throw the questions out there" (yet again) to see if any of her Texans link up to any of mine. Here is some information: * My great grandfather was JS Newton (b. 6-24-1839 in MS and d. 6-18-1908 in TX). JS stands for either John Sims, John Seth, Jasper Sims, or Jasper Seth. We just don't know. My grandfather, William Henry Newton, always insisted that his father JS was from Meridien, MS. * He married MA (Malissa Ann) Eaves (b. 1-14-1841 in MS and d. 11-21-1901 TX) in Mississippi (Lawrence Co, it's believed.) * JS served in the Confederacy, Company C, 41st Mississippi Regiment, from January 1862 to June 1864. He was badly wounded. I have a photo copy of a Confederate Pension Application he submitted in 1899. The pension application was denied stating that he "owned too much property to qualify for pension". Apparently, he had trouble working the land with a useless, deformed arm (which he had ultimately lost by that time), and a chest wound (both from the war) that left him weak. * At the time he submitted the pension application, he and MA lived in Midway (Madison County), Texas, and had been there for 8 years. I don't know where they were prior to that (Mississippi? Another area in Texas?). * In listing his property, the pension app states that he had: "200 acres of land in Madison County in H. Walker Teague, of the value of $500.00. Two mules value $80, two cows and two calves value $40. 10 head of hogs value $15.00". (I was born, raised, and lived all but 9 years in Texas, but I'm unfamiliar with H. Walker Teague.is that another county?) * I also have pages which I saved, that were at some point, torn from a family bible. The following folks' names appear on those pages. I don't know their relation to JS and MA. My grandfather, William Henry Newton, was one of JS' and MA's children. They had others. I cannot tell from the pages if these people are the children of JS and MA, or siblings, cousins, or.? Anyway, their names are: --Indiana A Newton (b. 04-6-1862) --JJ Newton (b. 05-12-1866) --Marion May Levest (Levert?) Newton (b. 03-14-1875) --Mary Ollevia (Ollivia?) Newton (b. 06-29-1879) If these folks lived, or when/who they may have married, or when they later died, all remains a mystery. * Finally, I know my grandfather had a sister, and her nickname was "Willie". We all called her "Aunt Willie". I don't remember anything more about her. My grandfather always said our family came across the ocean way back when. Unfortunately, I can't even trace them out of Texas! If you, Gay, or any other Newton researchers have any information, I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Kay (Newton) Stange -----Original Message----- From: LYNDON NIX [mailto:warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:46 PM To: NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEWTON-L] Family Record Of Isaac Newton Sorry I haven't, My Newton's were out of Va and S.C., and Ga to Ala to Texas. Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

From: Michele Porter Subject: new member Hi, I have just joined this group and I would like to tell you a bit about my family. Firstly, the names I am looking for are mainly Sherden (Sheridan) from inner Sydney area or Newcastle, Australia recently but came from England ?? originally. Newton from inner Sydney area or Ballarat Victoria, Australia recently but came from Northumberland England originally. Smith from inner Sydney area namely Waterloo and Redfern, NSW, Australia recently but came from England originally. Onus or Honess family from Richmond, Hawkesbury, NSW, Australia area but originally from Kent, England. Finally, Cunningham from Inverell, NSW, Australia area but came from county Kerry, Ireland originally. My great grandmother Blanche Cunningham is a desendant from the Eather/Heather family of Windsor/Hawkesbury, NSW, Australia area and originally from the Kent, England area.. I really would like to find out more information about these families so if anyone can help me please I would love to hear from you shartega@unwired.com.au Michele.

Gay, I see that your Newtons are VA/SC/GA/AL/TX. Although "Newton" is not an unusual name, and it is my maiden name, it's been the hardest one to find info on in my genealogical searchings. NO ONE seems to have heard of any of my Newton folks. So, since I saw TX in your geographical listing, I thought "why not throw the questions out there" (yet again) to see if any of her Texans link up to any of mine. Here is some information: * My great grandfather was JS Newton (b. 6-24-1839 in MS and d. 6-18-1908 in TX). JS stands for either John Sims, John Seth, Jasper Sims, or Jasper Seth. We just don't know. My grandfather, William Henry Newton, always insisted that his father JS was from Meridien, MS. * He married MA (Malissa Ann) Eaves (b. 1-14-1841 in MS and d. 11-21-1901 TX) in Mississippi (Lawrence Co, it's believed.) * JS served in the Confederacy, Company C, 41st Mississippi Regiment, from January 1862 to June 1864. He was badly wounded. I have a photo copy of a Confederate Pension Application he submitted in 1899. The pension application was denied stating that he "owned too much property to qualify for pension". Apparently, he had trouble working the land with a useless, deformed arm (which he had ultimately lost by that time), and a chest wound (both from the war) that left him weak. * At the time he submitted the pension application, he and MA lived in Midway (Madison County), Texas, and had been there for 8 years. I don't know where they were prior to that (Mississippi? Another area in Texas?). * In listing his property, the pension app states that he had: "200 acres of land in Madison County in H. Walker Teague, of the value of $500.00. Two mules value $80, two cows and two calves value $40. 10 head of hogs value $15.00". (I was born, raised, and lived all but 9 years in Texas, but I'm unfamiliar with H. Walker Teague.is that another county?) * I also have pages which I saved, that were at some point, torn from a family bible. The following folks' names appear on those pages. I don't know their relation to JS and MA. My grandfather, William Henry Newton, was one of JS' and MA's children. They had others. I cannot tell from the pages if these people are the children of JS and MA, or siblings, cousins, or.? Anyway, their names are: --Indiana A Newton (b. 04-6-1862) --JJ Newton (b. 05-12-1866) --Marion May Levest (Levert?) Newton (b. 03-14-1875) --Mary Ollevia (Ollivia?) Newton (b. 06-29-1879) If these folks lived, or when/who they may have married, or when they later died, all remains a mystery. * Finally, I know my grandfather had a sister, and her nickname was "Willie". We all called her "Aunt Willie". I don't remember anything more about her. My grandfather always said our family came across the ocean way back when. Unfortunately, I can't even trace them out of Texas! If you, Gay, or any other Newton researchers have any information, I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Kay (Newton) Stange -----Original Message----- From: LYNDON NIX [mailto:warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:46 PM To: NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEWTON-L] Family Record Of Isaac Newton Sorry I haven't, My Newton's were out of Va and S.C., and Ga to Ala to Texas. Gay Nix

Sorry I haven't, My Newton's were out of Va and S.C., and Ga to Ala to Texas. Gay Nix Joan Coleman <jcolema1@elp.rr.com> wrote: My late husband had a grandfather named ISAAC NEWTON WALKER and I wonder if you've ever come across him. He lived in Coles county Illinois until his death in the 1950's. His wife was Daisy Cooper and they had 4 kids: Herman, Helen, Glenn and Irene. Ever come across anyone of these people? ----- Original Message ----- From: "LYNDON NIX" To: Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: [NEWTON-L] Family Record Of Isaac Newton > Bryan, > Yes you did send that to me, sorry I thought you were talking about > something else. > > After reading what you sent, I would like to give you my opinion on this > data. > > First you said letter in the Newton bible, so does this mean that someone > had put this letter in a bible???? Whoes bible? > > After reading the letter that was in the bible, it sounds like someone > was doing research on Isaac Newton, with them saying genealogy of Isaac > Newton. > > They who ever they are goes on to say that Isaac Newton traced his > ancestors back to Willoughby Newton, and became the Buriness agent of the > Va chartered land company in early colonial times. > I am going out on a limb here, but I don't think Isaac traced his > genealogy. > > I think who ever wrote that letter is the one who has traced their > family. > There is no source for this statement made in the letter and how Isaac > would connect. > > I would have thought if they did trace their ancestor to Willoughby there > would be a record of their findings, this is the same group of Newton > researchers who were doing genealogy back in the 1970's. > > Now, you had ask about Sarah Spicer and her being Sarah Mitchell Spicer, > if you will look at the letter you will see that this person added > Mitchell above Sarah's name, so evidently this is where some get that her > name is Mitchell. > > Is there more to the letter that didn't get copied ? Was there a > signature to the letter? > > I no nothing about Willoughby Newton and I have found no one stateing > they were kin to him from corresponding with the descendants of William, > Isaac and Henry Newton side and children of John and Mary Mitchell. > > I wish we were!!!!! maybe DNA will prove we are or not!!!!!!!!! > > Gay Nix > > > > Gay Nix > warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net > > > > Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

There are a lot of interesting things about this item. I will mention three. 1. The first full sentence is: "This branch of the Newtons moved from Virginia to Newberry S.C. just when it is not definitely known, sometime before the American Revolution and traced his ancestry back to Willoughby Newton and he came from England to Virginia and became the business agent of the Virginia Chartered Land Company in early colonial times." I think it is important to remember just how "early" in colonial times the Virginia Company really was. It was so early that it was already over by 1624. So even as early as the Westmoreland Newtons were, there was still not a Willoughby Newton that I could find who lived so early. The earliest Willoughby Newton I can find was born 20 DEC 1702. Even for a person to be a business agent at a relatively young age (let's say 21), and even if it were the last years of the Virginia Company's charter (let's say 1621), then this Willoughby would need to be born 1600-ish. That predates the entire proved genealogy of the Westmoreland Newtons, which starts with Thomas Newton of Kingston-upon-Hull circa 1615. 2. The birthdate of Isaac: "Isaac Newton was born in Newberry S. C. 5th of August 1776." And then over the top is written in another hand "Feb. 19, 1777", and then a word in parentheses that I can't read, but looks like 'leties'. Anyway, the point being that a different birthdate is given. Why? How could this letter be authoritative if the birthdate of Isaac himself is given incorrectly? 3. Who wrote this letter? I suggest it was written originally by a child, or perhaps a child-in-law (on behalf of their spouse) of Isaac. It says: "Father Isaac Newton died Dec 23 1859, In his 84 year. Mother Sarah Spicer Newton was born May 9th, 1772 and died Feb 13th, 1845, In her 73rd year." The letter in one hand extends at least to this 1859 date, so it clearly can't predate that. The letter says "(over)" in the lower right, so presumably there is more.... Conclusion: I think it is important to understand which "Willoughby Newton" could have been meant. If it is true that Isaac's father was John, then John would have to be born, say, 1755, latest. So John's father would have to be born, say, 1735 or earlier. I can find only one Willoughby Newton who was ever in America who was born early enough, and that's the one I mention above, born 1702. And we have his family Bible, and it mentions no son John born to him in 1750 primarily because he already had a son John born to him 25 DEC 1730. And that son John was the only son. And that son John had a son Willoughby Newton, born 27 DEC 1761, already too late to be father of John. So you see, I am afraid that a descent of Isaac's father John from Willoughby is not even theoretically possible, let alone demonstrable from records. The only way I see to make this possible is: 1. Abandon the notion that Isaac Newton born 1777 was the son of John. Even this probably would not help make it theoretically possible. 2. Find another Willoughby Newton, someone who was born one to several generations prior to 1702. That giving the wrong birthdate for Isaac is really bugging me. That opens the door for practically any possibility for explanation. Best, Gregg Bonner (cousin of Willoughby Newton, born 1702) --- LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Bryan, > Yes you did send that to me, sorry I thought you > were talking about something else. > > After reading what you sent, I would like to give > you my opinion on this data. > > First you said letter in the Newton bible, so does > this mean that someone had put this letter in a > bible???? Whoes bible? > > After reading the letter that was in the bible, it > sounds like someone was doing research on Isaac > Newton, with them saying genealogy of Isaac Newton. > > They who ever they are goes on to say that Isaac > Newton traced his ancestors back to Willoughby > Newton, and became the Buriness agent of the Va > chartered land company in early colonial times. > I am going out on a limb here, but I don't think > Isaac traced his genealogy. > > I think who ever wrote that letter is the one who > has traced their family. > There is no source for this statement made in the > letter and how Isaac would connect. > > I would have thought if they did trace their > ancestor to Willoughby there would be a record of > their findings, this is the same group of Newton > researchers who were doing genealogy back in the > 1970's. > > Now, you had ask about Sarah Spicer and her being > Sarah Mitchell Spicer, if you will look at the > letter you will see that this person added Mitchell > above Sarah's name, so evidently this is where some > get that her name is Mitchell. > > Is there more to the letter that didn't get copied > ? Was there a signature to the letter? > > I no nothing about Willoughby Newton and I have > found no one stateing they were kin to him from > corresponding with the descendants of William, > Isaac and Henry Newton side and children of John and > Mary Mitchell. > > I wish we were!!!!! maybe DNA will prove we are or > not!!!!!!!!! > > Gay Nix > > > > Gay Nix > warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

My late husband had a grandfather named ISAAC NEWTON WALKER and I wonder if you've ever come across him. He lived in Coles county Illinois until his death in the 1950's. His wife was Daisy Cooper and they had 4 kids: Herman, Helen, Glenn and Irene. Ever come across anyone of these people? ----- Original Message ----- From: "LYNDON NIX" <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: <NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: [NEWTON-L] Family Record Of Isaac Newton > Bryan, > Yes you did send that to me, sorry I thought you were talking about > something else. > > After reading what you sent, I would like to give you my opinion on this > data. > > First you said letter in the Newton bible, so does this mean that someone > had put this letter in a bible???? Whoes bible? > > After reading the letter that was in the bible, it sounds like someone > was doing research on Isaac Newton, with them saying genealogy of Isaac > Newton. > > They who ever they are goes on to say that Isaac Newton traced his > ancestors back to Willoughby Newton, and became the Buriness agent of the > Va chartered land company in early colonial times. > I am going out on a limb here, but I don't think Isaac traced his > genealogy. > > I think who ever wrote that letter is the one who has traced their > family. > There is no source for this statement made in the letter and how Isaac > would connect. > > I would have thought if they did trace their ancestor to Willoughby there > would be a record of their findings, this is the same group of Newton > researchers who were doing genealogy back in the 1970's. > > Now, you had ask about Sarah Spicer and her being Sarah Mitchell Spicer, > if you will look at the letter you will see that this person added > Mitchell above Sarah's name, so evidently this is where some get that her > name is Mitchell. > > Is there more to the letter that didn't get copied ? Was there a > signature to the letter? > > I no nothing about Willoughby Newton and I have found no one stateing > they were kin to him from corresponding with the descendants of William, > Isaac and Henry Newton side and children of John and Mary Mitchell. > > I wish we were!!!!! maybe DNA will prove we are or not!!!!!!!!! > > Gay Nix > > > > Gay Nix > warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net > > > >

Bryan, Yes you did send that to me, sorry I thought you were talking about something else. After reading what you sent, I would like to give you my opinion on this data. First you said letter in the Newton bible, so does this mean that someone had put this letter in a bible???? Whoes bible? After reading the letter that was in the bible, it sounds like someone was doing research on Isaac Newton, with them saying genealogy of Isaac Newton. They who ever they are goes on to say that Isaac Newton traced his ancestors back to Willoughby Newton, and became the Buriness agent of the Va chartered land company in early colonial times. I am going out on a limb here, but I don't think Isaac traced his genealogy. I think who ever wrote that letter is the one who has traced their family. There is no source for this statement made in the letter and how Isaac would connect. I would have thought if they did trace their ancestor to Willoughby there would be a record of their findings, this is the same group of Newton researchers who were doing genealogy back in the 1970's. Now, you had ask about Sarah Spicer and her being Sarah Mitchell Spicer, if you will look at the letter you will see that this person added Mitchell above Sarah's name, so evidently this is where some get that her name is Mitchell. Is there more to the letter that didn't get copied ? Was there a signature to the letter? I no nothing about Willoughby Newton and I have found no one stateing they were kin to him from corresponding with the descendants of William, Isaac and Henry Newton side and children of John and Mary Mitchell. I wish we were!!!!! maybe DNA will prove we are or not!!!!!!!!! Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net