The Isaac Newton (1770-1825) who was married to Elizabeth Alderman lived and died in North Carolina. On 7/5/06 10:45 AM, "OLSONDOT@aol.com" <OLSONDOT@aol.com> wrote: > ANY OF THESE ISAACS EVER GET TO KY? >

ANY OF THESE ISAACS EVER GET TO KY?

Gregg, Elizabeth Alderman, daughter of John Alderman, Sr., and wife of Isaac Newton (1770-1825), died in 1848 in Brooks Co., GA. I have no documentation for this, except the date has been handed down in our family through her grandson, George Fennell Newton, to my grandfather, Joseph Milton Newton, to my father, Isaac Lamar Newton. She is buried in the Old Bethel Primitive Baptist Church Cemetery near Pavo, GA. Though her grave is not marked, there is a large monument in the cemetery, placed there within the last 20 years, bearing that information. One publication that does carry her death date is "Pioneers of Wiregrass Georgia" by Folks Huxford. This book is no longer accepted as proof by most heritage organizations, for there have been found a lot of errors in it over the years. Judge Huxford gathered most of his information from living descendants when he started publishing this series in 1948, so Elizabeth's death date of 1848 MIGHT be correct, since it concurs with family tradition. I truly wish I had firm documentation, for my own sake as well as for this study....alas, I do not. Janice Newton Thurmond, Marietta, GA On 7/5/06 3:23 AM, "Gregg Bonner" <greggbonner@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I am still trying to sort out these people. I see > online where some claim that the subject line Isaac > Newton is one and the same. If it is true that Isaac > Newton died in 1825, then he obviously isn't the Isaac > Newton in the 1850 census of New Hanover County (Page > 373A) with wife Elizabeth. > > It seems to me now that Isaac Newton who married > Elizabeth Alderman is the son of George Newton and Ann > "Nancy" Moore, whereas Isaac Newton who married > Elizabeth Bland was the son of Isaac Newton and Jemima > Chambers. To make the Isaac Newton one and the same > would require he have two sons named William (one born > 1809 (William Isaac Newton), and another (William > Bland Newton) born 1818) and two sons named George > (one born 1808, and another (George F. Newton) born > 1824. > > The other thing about separating these Isaac Newtons > is that the DNA is different. From Isaac, son of > George is "M", whereas Isaac (and his brother Enoch), > son(s) of Isaac are type "O". This means that George > Newton and Isaac Newton are not likely to be brothers, > as previously described (2 mutations in 12 markers is > usually too many to have a common ancestor as near as, > say, 1700-1720). Also as previously described, we need > corroborating samples to be sure. At this point, my #1 > target for this group would be a descendant of Isaac > Newton (1770-1825) through a son other than William > Isaac Newton. Perhaps someone can find a descendant of > James or George to test. Any help on recruitment would > be much appreciated by me, the "M"s, and some of the > "O"s, to say the least. > > Also, I would appreciate it if somebody could give me > a reference or deduction for the date of death of > Elizabeth (Alderman) Newton and/or Elizabeth (Bland) > Newton. > > Best, > > Gregg Bonner > NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

I am searching for the family of William Newton and Rose Brown in Lambeth, England. They were married 1878 at Lambeth and had the following issue: William b 1880 Henry b 1882 Louisa b 1885 George b ?? John b 1890 Rosanna b 1897 Are there any cousins out there Thank you, Maree

Hi Folks, I am still trying to sort out these people. I see online where some claim that the subject line Isaac Newton is one and the same. If it is true that Isaac Newton died in 1825, then he obviously isn't the Isaac Newton in the 1850 census of New Hanover County (Page 373A) with wife Elizabeth. It seems to me now that Isaac Newton who married Elizabeth Alderman is the son of George Newton and Ann "Nancy" Moore, whereas Isaac Newton who married Elizabeth Bland was the son of Isaac Newton and Jemima Chambers. To make the Isaac Newton one and the same would require he have two sons named William (one born 1809 (William Isaac Newton), and another (William Bland Newton) born 1818) and two sons named George (one born 1808, and another (George F. Newton) born 1824. The other thing about separating these Isaac Newtons is that the DNA is different. From Isaac, son of George is "M", whereas Isaac (and his brother Enoch), son(s) of Isaac are type "O". This means that George Newton and Isaac Newton are not likely to be brothers, as previously described (2 mutations in 12 markers is usually too many to have a common ancestor as near as, say, 1700-1720). Also as previously described, we need corroborating samples to be sure. At this point, my #1 target for this group would be a descendant of Isaac Newton (1770-1825) through a son other than William Isaac Newton. Perhaps someone can find a descendant of James or George to test. Any help on recruitment would be much appreciated by me, the "M"s, and some of the "O"s, to say the least. Also, I would appreciate it if somebody could give me a reference or deduction for the date of death of Elizabeth (Alderman) Newton and/or Elizabeth (Bland) Newton. Best, Gregg Bonner NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I AM STILL SEARCHING FOR THE LINEAGE OF ISAAC NEWTON WHO SHOWS IN THE KNOX COUNTY, KY CENSUS FOR 1800/1810, AND THEN I LOSE HIM. HE WAS AT THAT TIME IN THE 26-45 RANGE. TO WHOM DOES HE BELONG; ANY CLUES. I COME THROUGH AMOS NEWTON OF THAT COUNTY. THANKS, DOTTIE

"Aldermans in America" by William Alderman Parker; Raleigh, NC; 1957; pg 69, lists the date 24 August 1825. No source is listed for this date in that book. Janice On 7/4/06 2:30 AM, "Gregg Bonner" <greggbonner@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > There are several databases at WorldConnect that list > the death of Isaac Newton as 24 Aug 1825. What is the > source citation for this statement? > > My apologies if this information has already been > provided to me and I missed it. > > Best, > > Gregg > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

Dear Greg: What state, county, town was this Isaac Newton from??? Joann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Bonner" <greggbonner@yahoo.com> To: <NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: [NEWTON-L] Isaac Newton (1770-1825) m. Elizabeth Alderman > Hi Folks, > > There are several databases at WorldConnect that list > the death of Isaac Newton as 24 Aug 1825. What is the > source citation for this statement? > > My apologies if this information has already been > provided to me and I missed it. > > Best, > > Gregg > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

Hi Folks, There are several databases at WorldConnect that list the death of Isaac Newton as 24 Aug 1825. What is the source citation for this statement? My apologies if this information has already been provided to me and I missed it. Best, Gregg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

William (Isaac) Newton, born 1809 in NC was my great-great-grandfather. I have searched diligently for any records I can find regarding him. Nowhere have I found his name listed any way than "William Newton"; HOWEVER, my father, his father, and all of my father's aunts and uncles KNEW his name was William Isaac Newton....I just wish it were recorded in some document that way! We have never even found a family Bible! Isaac Newton (1770-1825), the son of George Newton, RS, born 1742, was married to Elizabeth Alderman. They had 6 children - 1. James Newton (1798-1856); came to GA - had a son, Isaac Thomas Alderman Newton (1835-1861) 2. Mary Ann Newton (1802 - 1835); stayed in NC 3. George Newton (1808 - 1895); stayed in NC - had a son, Isaac James (1828 - 1868) 4. William Isaac Newton (1809-1857), came to GA; had son Isaac Thomas Newton (1834-1862) 5. Rachel Newton (1811-1852); came to GA 6. Penninah Newton (1812-1843); came to GA Elizabeth Newton, the widow of Isaac (1770), came to GA with her youngest son William Isaac in 1837. There was no son with her named Isaac Milton Newton.... The name "Milton" DOES appear in this family.....in 1853, William Isaac and his wife, Margaret Ann Stringfield, named their youngest son "David Milton Newton." It is thought that the child was named in honor of a prominent Primitive Baptist preacher of the area. That was the 1st time the name "Milton" was used in this branch of the family to my knowledge, though many have carried the name since. I would like to be able to communicate with the person whose DNA results you have posted, the one descended from Isaac Milton Newton.....maybe we could compare our information and find a solution to these questions. I very interested! Janice Newton Thurmond On 6/28/06 3:36 AM, "Gregg Bonner" <greggbonner@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > We have another result from a participant who claims > descent from George Newton (b. 1742). He is a type > "O", and therefore matches another participant whose > claimed descent is from Isaac Newton (b. 1735). So > this result lends support to the contention that > George and Isaac were brothers. Of course they could > have been more remote cousins and they still would > likely have matched. Also, the type "O" folks are > right in the middle of one of the most common DNA > types, so maybe it was coincidence. Anyway, there is > still nothing to suggest the Duplin folks descended > from Richard Newton of Marlboro/Sudbury, as none of > those claims have ever matched the fairly established > type "J" of Richard Newton. > > But there is another issue, and which I am hoping to > get feedback from this list.... > > I am interested in the questioned Isaac Newton in the > subject line given above; Isaac Newton, son of Isaac, > son of George Newton born 1742. We have two > participants claiming descent from this Isaac. But one > calls him Isaac Milton Newton (born 1822), and the > other calls him William Isaac Newton (born 09 Jun > 1809). The one from William Isaac Newton is type "M", > so I would strike the entry, but "M" is only two > mutations away from "O", so maybe I should wait. Also, > I don't want to link the type "O"s like this > (prematurely), since it may be an action that is hard > to undo. > > I would like it very much if anyone could prove or > disprove either or both parentages of these "Isaac"s > NEWTON. Surely Isaac Newton (son of George) did not > have two sons named Isaac, did he? > > Best, > > Gregg Bonner > NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator

Seeking information on ancestors of RICHARD NEWTON who was born about 1603 in England and was in Sudbury, MA by 1640;made freeman in 1645 and died Southboro, Worcester Co, MA 24 Aug 1701 He married Ann LOKER, d/o Henry LOKER who was from Bury, St. Mary Essex, England.&nbsp; Appreciate any assistance...does anyone know where he came from in England or who his parents were Please respond by email RJThoden@yahoo.com --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

Hi Folks, We have another result from a participant who claims descent from George Newton (b. 1742). He is a type "O", and therefore matches another participant whose claimed descent is from Isaac Newton (b. 1735). So this result lends support to the contention that George and Isaac were brothers. Of course they could have been more remote cousins and they still would likely have matched. Also, the type "O" folks are right in the middle of one of the most common DNA types, so maybe it was coincidence. Anyway, there is still nothing to suggest the Duplin folks descended from Richard Newton of Marlboro/Sudbury, as none of those claims have ever matched the fairly established type "J" of Richard Newton. But there is another issue, and which I am hoping to get feedback from this list.... I am interested in the questioned Isaac Newton in the subject line given above; Isaac Newton, son of Isaac, son of George Newton born 1742. We have two participants claiming descent from this Isaac. But one calls him Isaac Milton Newton (born 1822), and the other calls him William Isaac Newton (born 09 Jun 1809). The one from William Isaac Newton is type "M", so I would strike the entry, but "M" is only two mutations away from "O", so maybe I should wait. Also, I don't want to link the type "O"s like this (prematurely), since it may be an action that is hard to undo. I would like it very much if anyone could prove or disprove either or both parentages of these "Isaac"s NEWTON. Surely Isaac Newton (son of George) did not have two sons named Isaac, did he? Best, Gregg Bonner NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Folks, We have had participants from two different genetic groups ("C" and "P") claiming descent from the same patriarch (one Rev. John Newton (1732-1790)), so we have been waiting for another sample to see which (if either) sample it would match. This new sample has been found and tested, and matches "P". http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gbonner/newtondna/ We now have a sample from the lines of two sons of John Calhoun Newton (1844-1910) which are both "P". So there is very little chance that there is error in this line. So for those of you who believe John Calhoun Newton is your kin, you now know with confidence his DNA type, and your patriarchal NEWTON DNA type by extension. The reason I say that it is a "semi-resolution" in the subject line is because the matching "P" samples share a fairly recent common ancestor (John Calhoun Newton), so there could be debate about the applicability of his DNA type towards insight into the DNA type of Rev. John Newton. If you do not believe John Calhoun Newton is the great grandson of Rev. John Newton, then this new sample is not going to do much for you. But if you *do* believe he is his great grandson, then you really should believe Rev. John Newton's DNA type is "P". The new sample proves the DNA type halfway back to Rev. John Newton. While that leaves 3 generations for possible error 'above' John Calhoun Newton, the "C" DNA type claims still have 6 generations for possible error. Thus I will assign "P" to Rev. John Newton by default, and will truncate "C" descent claims to some as yet undecided point (probably John Trucker Newton (1777-Aft. 1850)). Notice that this arrangement may not be robust. While a sample size of 2 is better than 1, it is still really small. So a sample 'above' John Calhoun Newton that matches "C" would reverse everything. Also, a sample from John Trucker Newton but from a son of his other than William C. Newton (1801-Bef.1850) that matched "P" would put a new light on things. We shall see. Best, Gregg Bonner NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I am looking for any info on these persons. I know that there father was William Newton Sr. They were either born in Anderson or Edgefield Co, SC. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I have a Reuben (Ruben) Newton from Caswell Co or Persons Co. NC. Born abt 1750 Died in Hardin Co KY after 1850. He migrated to KY about 1800. I have never seen the name of his wife. I believe he had a son Ruben 1795 to 1798 and three daughters, Rachael, Susannah and Elizabeth. I do not have good dates for any of these people. Rachael was married to a Dinwiddie and had two children. I think he died in NC and she came to KY. Then married William Ireland. Ssannah was married to a man named Davis or Davies and Elizabeth married Amos Howell. The younger Ruben married a Mary G. Newton in NC in 1815. I am going to NC in 2 weeks to try to find additional information on this family. Can anyone verify or give additional info on them?

Is Sandy Keylon still on this list? Sandy mentioned back in 1998 that she thought that Reuben Newton may be connected to the Caroline County, Va bunch and he was born ca 1750. Does anyone know anything about this Reuben? Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

Hi! This is my first post.My third great grandmother Elizabeth Newton was the daughter of Nathan Newton and Eleanor/Ellen Palmer.Nathan was the son of Matthew Newton and Elizabeth Eaglestone. Relatively yours, Scott Bill Hirst Scott Bill Hirst 20 Maple Court Ashaway,RI 02804-1301 USA (401)377-4643 Note:Telephone if you need quick reply.Use <scottbillhirst@excite.com> as alternate e-mail.

Hi Mary, Generally speaking, DNA can be divided into three types (for the purpose of this question): A. Ordinary chromosomal DNA (mixture from mom and dad) B. Mitochondrial DNA (inherited from mom only) C. Y-chromosome DNA (males inherit from dad only; females don't have a Y-chromosome (they have two X-chromosomes)). So the question is, what kind of DNA would we "see", if we tested your cousin.... And the answer is that since we test only the Y-chromosome, we would "see" only the DNA type of his father's father's father's (etc.) father. I understand your message to mean that this male NEWTON cousin of yours has as his all-male-line patriarch the Thomas Newton you mention, and Ebenezer Newton by extension. The outcome of any DNA testing we might do on him would be unaffected by any other lines, whether they are NEWTON or no. It sure would be nice to have a bona fide sample to represent Ebenezer Newton in the project. I hope you can convince him to participate :) Best, Gregg Bonner NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator --- Mary Ann McTee <mamctee@cox-internet.com> wrote: > I have a questions about Newton DNA.....(This is a > true characterization > from my line) I have a male Newton cousin > decended from Rev. Thomas > Newton, son of Ebenezer Newton and Elizabeth > Buchannan. He is ALSO decended > from another Newton line. His grandfather Newton > (decended through Ebenezer > Newton line) and his grandmother Newton (decended > through a different Thomas > Newton of Maryland) In other words, his grandmother > was a Newton and > married a Newton. Now, will his DNA only carry > the Ebenezer Newton line?. > Mary Ann McTee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregg Bonner" <greggbonner@yahoo.com> > To: <NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:55 AM > Subject: [NEWTON-L] Capt. Benjamin Newton (Cleveland > Co., NC) > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > Thanks for your generous offer :) > > As the administrator for the Project, I will do > what I > > can to connect you with a possible DNA donor. But > as a > > recruiter, I am afraid I can help little, since my > own > > line is yet to be represented (as far as I can > tell). > > > > I think the answer to your question is...it > depends on > > what you believe. If you believe that Benjamin > Newton > > (died 1835 Cleveland County, North Carolina - I > > presume this is the one you mean) is the son of > > Ebenezer Newton and Elizabeth (Buchanan) Newton, > AND > > you believe that John Newton (d. 26 Nov 1790) is > the > > grandson of Ebenezer Newton and Elizabeth > (Buchanan) > > Newton, then while we don't have a sample from > > Benjamin Newton per se, we do nevertheless have a > de > > facto sample, since it should be the same thing. > > > > Moreover, we have two participants claiming > descent > > from John Newton (d. 1790) whose DNA does not > match, > > so we are still awaiting resolution of that issue > in > > its own right. > > > > I will put Benjamin in the Patriarchs Table just > to be > > sure we catch the eyes of any lurkers, etc. > > > > I don't believe any other samples are claimed to > be > > related to the fellow you mention, but then again, > I > > am sure I have not seen all claims made. > > > > Best, > > > > Gregg Bonner > > NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator > > > > > > --- MARGFONT@aol.com wrote: > > > >> Dear Greg, > >> Do you have any YDNA from Captain Benjamin Newton > >> (Rev. War) who settled in > >> what is now Cleveland County, NC? > >> I do not seem to have any YDNA cousins close in > my > >> line, but there ought to > >> be some more distant cousins still residing in > the > >> Cleveland County area. I > >> would be willing to sponsor a 59-marker test. > >> Regards > >> Margaret Beam Megginson Fontana > >> High Point, NC > >> > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I have a questions about Newton DNA.....(This is a true characterization from my line) I have a male Newton cousin decended from Rev. Thomas Newton, son of Ebenezer Newton and Elizabeth Buchannan. He is ALSO decended from another Newton line. His grandfather Newton (decended through Ebenezer Newton line) and his grandmother Newton (decended through a different Thomas Newton of Maryland) In other words, his grandmother was a Newton and married a Newton. Now, will his DNA only carry the Ebenezer Newton line?. Mary Ann McTee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Bonner" <greggbonner@yahoo.com> To: <NEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: [NEWTON-L] Capt. Benjamin Newton (Cleveland Co., NC) > Hi Margaret, > > Thanks for your generous offer :) > As the administrator for the Project, I will do what I > can to connect you with a possible DNA donor. But as a > recruiter, I am afraid I can help little, since my own > line is yet to be represented (as far as I can tell). > > I think the answer to your question is...it depends on > what you believe. If you believe that Benjamin Newton > (died 1835 Cleveland County, North Carolina - I > presume this is the one you mean) is the son of > Ebenezer Newton and Elizabeth (Buchanan) Newton, AND > you believe that John Newton (d. 26 Nov 1790) is the > grandson of Ebenezer Newton and Elizabeth (Buchanan) > Newton, then while we don't have a sample from > Benjamin Newton per se, we do nevertheless have a de > facto sample, since it should be the same thing. > > Moreover, we have two participants claiming descent > from John Newton (d. 1790) whose DNA does not match, > so we are still awaiting resolution of that issue in > its own right. > > I will put Benjamin in the Patriarchs Table just to be > sure we catch the eyes of any lurkers, etc. > > I don't believe any other samples are claimed to be > related to the fellow you mention, but then again, I > am sure I have not seen all claims made. > > Best, > > Gregg Bonner > NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator > > > --- MARGFONT@aol.com wrote: > >> Dear Greg, >> Do you have any YDNA from Captain Benjamin Newton >> (Rev. War) who settled in >> what is now Cleveland County, NC? >> I do not seem to have any YDNA cousins close in my >> line, but there ought to >> be some more distant cousins still residing in the >> Cleveland County area. I >> would be willing to sponsor a 59-marker test. >> Regards >> Margaret Beam Megginson Fontana >> High Point, NC >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >

Dear Greg, Do you have any YDNA from Captain Benjamin Newton (Rev. War) who settled in what is now Cleveland County, NC? I do not seem to have any YDNA cousins close in my line, but there ought to be some more distant cousins still residing in the Cleveland County area. I would be willing to sponsor a 59-marker test. Regards Margaret Beam Megginson Fontana High Point, NC