Hi Folks, I don't know the answer, but I think it is worth considering, or at least knowing the possibilities of another DNA test...perhaps even if applied only to other families people are researching. The mtDNA passes from mother to child. So if someone can be found who has Mary as their mother's mother's (etc.) mother, then you can have them tested for mtDNA, and then match them up to to a similarly described descendant of your "target" person. This could identify Mary's mother. The tracing is a little tricky, since the surname changes every generation, but if Mary had several daughters, then there is a decent chance you can do it. I think this is germane to the NEWTON DNA Project, and this type of thing could be done under the auspices of the project. Best, Gregg Bonner Bethany, Oklahoma, USA --- "Gary K. Lee" <gary@allinderlee.com> wrote: > Hi Phinehas, > > Thank you for offering to check. About a decade ago I > rented microfilm of the book and studied it. Mrs. > Leonard very conveniently left out Mary. Perhaps she > didn't know where to place Mary. > > I'm always hoping that somewhere exists a Newton > family Bible, probate record, will, or something else > that will give the answer I've been seeking: Who are > the parents of my Mary Newton? My best guess is there > is a connection to Richard and Anne (Loker) Newton > because of the locality, but I could be wrong. > > Some families used family names for the names of their > children, but in Joel and Mary (Newton) Lee's children > I don't see Joel Lee's family's names except for Joel. > The children are Alfred, Lyman, William Collins (I'm > guessing there was someone they named him for), Sally, > Joel Newton, Polly, and John Wesley Lee. > > Thanks to all who can keep an eye out for my Mary who > might be lurking among their Newtons. > > Best wishes, > Gary > > > --- PhinehasNewton@aol.com wrote: > > > Gary, > > > > I have the Ermina (Newton) Leonard book and > > will take a look this > > weekend for Mary who married Joel Lee. The book > > is primarily the descendants of > > Richard and Hannah "Anne" (Loker) Newton; but does > > include the first few > > generations of other Newtons from Virginia to Nova > > Scotia. > > > > Phinehas Newton, V > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

Hi Phinehas, Thank you for offering to check. About a decade ago I rented microfilm of the book and studied it. Mrs. Leonard very conveniently left out Mary. Perhaps she didn't know where to place Mary. I'm always hoping that somewhere exists a Newton family Bible, probate record, will, or something else that will give the answer I've been seeking: Who are the parents of my Mary Newton? My best guess is there is a connection to Richard and Anne (Loker) Newton because of the locality, but I could be wrong. Some families used family names for the names of their children, but in Joel and Mary (Newton) Lee's children I don't see Joel Lee's family's names except for Joel. The children are Alfred, Lyman, William Collins (I'm guessing there was someone they named him for), Sally, Joel Newton, Polly, and John Wesley Lee. Thanks to all who can keep an eye out for my Mary who might be lurking among their Newtons. Best wishes, Gary --- PhinehasNewton@aol.com wrote: > Gary, > > I have the Ermina (Newton) Leonard book and > will take a look this > weekend for Mary who married Joel Lee. The book > is primarily the descendants of > Richard and Hannah "Anne" (Loker) Newton; but does > include the first few > generations of other Newtons from Virginia to Nova > Scotia. > > Phinehas Newton, V

Gary, I have the Ermina (Newton) Leonard book and will take a look this weekend for Mary who married Joel Lee. The book is primarily the descendants of Richard and Hannah "Anne" (Loker) Newton; but odes include the first few generations of other Newtons from Virginia to Nova Scotia. Phinehas Newton, V 1130 Ohio Street Bangor, Maine (207) 947-0557 _PhinehasNewton@Aol.Com_ (mailto:PhinehasNewton@Aol.Com)

With all the activity lately on the list and the fact it is a new year, I'd like to bring up my g-g-g-g-grandmother Mary Newton Lee. Mary Newton married Joel Lee on 21 March 1782 in Southborough, Worcester County, MA, and published an intention of marriage in Dudley, MA, on 24 January 1782. I've figured Mary was from Southborough at the time, but I don't know who her parents are. In 1790 I found 27 Newton households listed in Southborough. (Joel's vital information is born: 21 Feb 1760 Uxbridge, Worcester Co., MA; diec 9 Oct 1822 Newfane, Windham CO., VT, buried at North Cemetery in Brookline, Windham Co., VT.) The widow Mary moved with some of her children to Rose, Wayne Co., NY, and died there 28 February 1855. The grave marker says age 93y 8m 13d, which puts her birthday around 15 June 1761. She is buried in Ellinwood Cemetery, Rose, NY. So far I don't find a Mary Lee born on 15 June 1761 in the Massachusetts vital records books and I don't necessarily trust the age on the grave marker since ages and birth dates are notoriously wrong on older grave markers. In the probate records of Joel Lee there is mention of money owed to Mr. Sir Issac Newton. He is from the Marshall Newton Jr. family from Shrewsbury, MA. So far, I haven't been able to connect Mary to that family. It seems to me Mary should be connected to the Newton families around Southborough, Marlborough, Sudbury, Shrewsbury, etc.--descended from Richard and Anne (Loker) Newton, but I am stuck and have been for some years. Some day I hope someone will come onto this list who may have some clues--perhaps a reference to Mary Newton who married a Lee. Anyone working on Newton families Massachusetts? Many thanks for any help. Best wishes, Gary

Well said, Gay. It's hard to believe that, as many times as you've given this information out, some folks still haven't grasped what you've told them. Another thing too.... Is the confusion on John Newton being in the Revolutionary War. Many folks still have the two combined into the same person.... I see that Cindy Teel has a memo/email posted there where someone is trying to get into the SAR/DAR on Sgt. John Newton's service when they are of our John Newton lineage. Folks... Listen up! John Newton born bet.1740-50 and died abt 1799, is NOT, and I repeat... Is NOT the Sgt. John Newton hero (b. 1755, d. 1780). Sgt. Newton died of smallpox at 25 years of age on a ship. Our John Newton was still alive and having kids at that time! Mae Cox in Oklahoma John > Henry > Isaac Mitchell > Jasper 'Jap' > Flora -----Original Message----- From: newton-bounces@rootsweb.com [ <mailto:newton-bounces@rootsweb.com> mailto:newton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LYNDON NIX Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:58 PM To: newton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton David, Who told you that Mary may have had a middle name? I don't know how many times I have told this, but I am the one who started calling Mary, Mary Naomi, I'm the culprit, and I guess this will haunt me till I die. I started that in the 1960's. Like I have stated before, I started my genealogy 38 years ago, and was confused at Carrie Newton Wright's statement in the Boddie Book about John and Naomi. At that time period when Carrie went into the DAR, she went in on John and stated his wife was Naomi, now after the book was published, the Travel and Religious Experience Of Isaac Newton was found in possession of Nora Cantrell, the original, which the top had been brittle and torn with age, it said son of John and Mary Newton, I do not know who ended up with this priceless documentation. But Miss Annie Lee Boggs who lived in Pendleton, South Carolina typed what it said leaving off what had been torn at the top of the page. This was done in the 1960's I have a copy of that one which was done back in the 1960's, if you have the one that someone added Naomi to it, then yours would be fake. What I am also trying to make myself clear on is that Carrie Newton Wright never knew that her ancestor was Mary Mitchell and not Naomi, like she claimed, I don't believe she ever knew that new evidence had surfaced. If my memory serves me right she was in her late 80's,when she was interested in her Newton family. Her son was a Doctor in Ala, when I last heard from her, she said her son was going to put a stop to her genealogy, because she would get to excited over letters and etc, so I quit writting to her, she had moved in with him. Now to make things worse and I do take the blame for this also. I sent a family group sheet to Gail Andrews with information about her family, by mistake I had not changed the data on John Newton's family group sheet and it still said Mary Naomi Newton. Then Gail not knowing it was incorrect sent it out all over the internet, she sent it to Cindy Teel, who had a web page and published it on her sight. David Payne told me that Cindy was his daughter, and she no longer maintains the sight, so he took over the web page for her. which I'm sure is a full time job. David, Mary Mitchell Newton died in the 1790's are right after 1790 census. Then he married Naomi, sorry to say, South Carolina wasn't required to record marriages in that time frame. Naomi after John died, left and went to Tenn and ended up in Mo where she died. I have lots of info on that family, but Ernest should be able to tell you what you need to know about that side of the family, because he descends from Larkin. Now where do you get that John died in 1787? What happened to the data I sent you, I thought it was pretty well documented. Estate papers say 1799. John Newton's son Isaac writes in his Travels that he and his father John went to Va in 1798, he is alive and well other than he did have rheumatism. David have you had the time to correct Henry's wife's name to Nancy Davidson and not Glass? Gay Nix 1526 W. Hull st Denison, Texas 75020 Please feel free to call are write me. Phone: 903-465-7964 "David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com> wrote: Bryan, Gay, Ernest, and Helen, On the John Newton that married Mary Mitchell and Naomi????? I heard that Mary's middle name may have been Naomi. Since Mary didn't die till 1841 in Newton, MO, either Naomi married John first or he divorced Mary???? Or is that Naomi that died in 1841 in MO? John died in 1787 so he couldn't have sired a child in 1794. Do you think there may have been another John Newton that married that Naomi Mitchell?, Richardson?, or what ever her name was? I am beginning to believe that Mary Mitchell was also Naomi. What do y'all think? Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton Check my websites at bottom of this mail. DAVE From: LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: Ernest Young <eyoung@felpsis.net>, newton@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:59:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book Ernest, We know that Isaac Mitchell had a will and named his children, and grandchildren and etc, there was no mention of Naomi listed in this will, she was still living when will was made, so do not think she was a sister to Mary. The only children John had with Mary was William, Henry and Isaac. I don't know who the females were in 1790, perhaps children from Naomi are females born to Mary, not sure when John married Naomi. Gay Nix Ernest Young wrote: Helen, Do you have any proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell? I am descended from John Newton and Naomi through their son Larkin Newton (b: 17 March 1794 in South Carolina and d: 21 May 1858 near Midlothian, Ellis Co., Texas). Those of us who have been researching this branch have not found any proof her maiden name was Mitchell. That could imply that she likely was a sister of Mary Mitchell, John Newton's first wife. And while that certainly happened in many instances back then, and now, too, there is no proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell. As far as I know, her maiden surname is not known. What is your descendant line from John Newton and Naomi? Ernest Young Floresville, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Thomas" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book > Bryan, > > Was your John Newton married to Naomi Mitchell? If so, they were my 4th > great grandparents. > > Helen In Nevada > David S. Payne, otime1@yahoo.com : My websites: My surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA, & Western NC: <http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime My wife's Newton, Gray, Patterson, and other kin: <http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel> http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel My Pictures, etc: <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/?Welco me=1095014020> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/?Welcom e=1095014020 --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't usually include most of the mail in the digest but most of the below mails are about John and Mary Mitchell Newton and Naomi. You guys that say the below info is wrong. Please, can you provide proof such as estate papers including wills and documents, etc so we can see the proof/evidence of what you found. If what y'all are saying, then my files are all wrong and I want to fix them but need the proof. I know many folks including my daughter Cindy Teel got their info from somewhere and wander where folks like her got it if you say it is wrong???? Please reply to me at otime1@yahoo.com David Payne newton-request@rootsweb.com wrote: From: "David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com> To: newton@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:27:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton Gregg, I think that title may have been amended by someone other than Isaac Newton. That is the way it was sent it to me. I will have to do some checking to find just who added that "son of John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton" to the document. I only have a transcribed document of this so I would love to see the original too. I will attach what I have to you soon. They are on my other computer. Now, getting back to the Mary Mitchell and Naomi thing. From all the info I have seen, I am beginning to believe that Mary and Naomi must have married two different John Newtons as Naomi had a child in 1797 and John died at least 10 years before that, right? DAVE From: "David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com> To: newton@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:47:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton The below info was found in some files that my daughter got from Gordon Parks a long while ago. I don't know much about the estate of this John. Does anyone have the estate papers of this John Newton and/or others? Since our info says John Newton that m. Mary Mitchell died in 1787, his estate should have been administrated earlier than 1799 or at least started before that. I am wandering if the below estate papers is talking about a different John Newton that m. Naomi as she had a baby in 1797. So her John must have died in 1799? Also I understand that Mary Mitchell Newton is still living in 1840. I believe we have two John Newtons mixed up. This happened so many times while "little old ladies" were applying to the DAR and left out generations. This info from Gordon Parks (e-mail glparks@frontiernet.net). "In Edgefield C ounty, SC estate papers in Apartment 43 package 1785 the estate papers of joh Newton. On 11 March 1799 Naomi Newton, Amos Richardson and Rafeal (?) Wilson were made administrators of John Newton's estate. Naomi made her mark and the others signed." "On 11 March 1799 four men were ordered that all or at least three of them inventory the estate within 90 days. This was completed on 1 June 1799. The sale took place 1 October 1799 by William Johnston, crier. "Neomy Nuten" was the only family member to purchase at the sale. She purchased among other items, a mare, flax wheel and cards and sow. The most expensive item sold was a hogshead of tobacco for 40 pounds of sterling. The entire estate sold for about 139 sterling. Gordon said he cannot find Naomi after this." From: Gregg Bonner <greggbonner@yahoo.com> To: newton@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:47:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton Hi Dave, I don't know. In cases like this, I just look to see if it resolves at WorldConnect. In this case it is quite clear that some people think that this John Newton died 11 Nov 1787, and others think he died 11 Nov 1799. I don't know where either of these dates come from. Best, Gregg From: LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: newton@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:40:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton Mary Mitchell Newton and Naomi maiden name unknown married the same man, who was John Newton. Gay Nix "David S. Payne" wrote: Gregg, I think that title may have been amended by someone other than Isaac Newton. That is the way it was sent it to me. I will have to do some checking to find just who added that "son of John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton" to the document. I only have a transcribed document of this so I would love to see the original too. I will attach what I have to you soon. They are on my other computer. Now, getting back to the Mary Mitchell and Naomi thing. From all the info I have seen, I am beginning to believe that Mary and Naomi must have married two different John Newtons as Naomi had a child in 1797 and John died at least 10 years before that, right? DAVE From: LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: newton@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:57:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton David, Who told you that Mary may have had a middle name? I don't know how many times I have told this, but I am the one who started calling Mary, Mary Naomi, I'm the culprit, and I guess this will haunt me till I die. I started that in the 1960's. Like I have stated before, I started my genealogy 38 years ago, and was confused at Carrie Newton Wright's statement in the Boddie Book about John and Naomi. At that time period when Carrie went into the DAR, she went in on John and stated his wife was Naomi, now after the book was published, the Travel and Religious Experience Of Isaac Newton was found in possession of Nora Cantrell, the original, which the top had been brittle and torn with age, it said son of John and Mary Newton, I do not know who ended up with this priceless documentation. But Miss Annie Lee Boggs who lived in Pendleton, South Carolina typed what it said leaving off what had been torn at the top of the page. This was done in the 1960's I have a copy of that one which was done back in the 1960's, if you have the one that someone added Naomi to it, then yours would be fake. What I am also trying to make myself clear on is that Carrie Newton Wright never knew that her ancestor was Mary Mitchell and not Naomi, like she claimed, I don't believe she ever knew that new evidence had surfaced. If my memory serves me right she was in her late 80's,when she was interested in her Newton family. Her son was a Doctor in Ala, when I last heard from her, she said her son was going to put a stop to her genealogy, because she would get to excited over letters and etc, so I quit writting to her, she had moved in with him. Now to make things worse and I do take the blame for this also. I sent a family group sheet to Gail Andrews with information about her family, by mistake I had not changed the data on John Newton's family group sheet and it still said Mary Naomi Newton. Then Gail not knowing it was incorrect sent it out all over the internet, she sent it to Cindy Teel, who had a web page and published it on her sight. David Payne told me that Cindy was his daughter, and she no longer maintains the sight, so he took over the web page for her. which I'm sure is a full time job. David, Mary Mitchell Newton died in the 1790's are right after 1790 census. Then he married Naomi, sorry to say, South Carolina wasn't required to record marriages in that time frame. Naomi after John died, left and went to Tenn and ended up in Mo where she died. I have lots of info on that family, but Ernest should be able to tell you what you need to know about that side of the family, because he descends from Larkin. Now where do you get that John died in 1787? What happened to the data I sent you, I thought it was pretty well documented. Estate papers say 1799. John Newton's son Isaac writes in his Travels that he and his father John went to Va in 1798, he is alive and well other than he did have rheumatism. David have you had the time to correct Henry's wife's name to Nancy Davidson and not Glass? Gay Nix 1526 W. Hull st Denison, Texas 75020 Please feel free to call are write me. Phone: 903-465-7964 "David S. Payne" wrote: Bryan, Gay, Ernest, and Helen, On the John Newton that married Mary Mitchell and Naomi????? I heard that Mary's middle name may have been Naomi. Since Mary didn't die till 1841 in Newton, MO, either Naomi married John first or he divorced Mary???? Or is that Naomi that died in 1841 in MO? John died in 1787 so he couldn't have sired a child in 1794. Do you think there may have been another John Newton that married that Naomi Mitchell?, Richardson?, or what ever her name was? I am beginning to believe that Mary Mitchell was also Naomi. What do y'all think? Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton Check my websites at bottom of this mail. DAVE From: LYNDON NIX To: Ernest Young , newton@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:59:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book Ernest, We know that Isaac Mitchell had a will and named his children, and grandchildren and etc, there was no mention of Naomi listed in this will, she was still living when will was made, so do not think she was a sister to Mary. The only children John had with Mary was William, Henry and Isaac. I don't know who the females were in 1790, perhaps children from Naomi are females born to Mary, not sure when John married Naomi. Gay Nix From: "Mae Cox" <mae@coxok.com> To: <newton@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:48:30 -0600 Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton Well said, Gay. It's hard to believe that, as many times as you've given this information out, some folks still haven't grasped what you've told them. Another thing too.... Is the confusion on John Newton being in the Revolutionary War. Many folks still have the two combined into the same person.... I see that Cindy Teel has a memo/email posted there where someone is trying to get into the SAR/DAR on Sgt. John Newton's service when they are of our John Newton lineage. Folks... Listen up! John Newton born bet.1740-50 and died abt 1799, is NOT, and I repeat... Is NOT the Sgt. John Newton hero (b. 1755, d. 1780). Sgt. Newton died of smallpox at 25 years of age on a ship. Our John Newton was still alive and having kids at that time! Mae Cox in Oklahoma John > Henry > Isaac Mitchell > Jasper 'Jap' > Flora -----Original Message----- From: newton-bounces@rootsweb.com [ mailto:newton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LYNDON NIX Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:58 PM To: newton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton David, Who told you that Mary may have had a middle name? I don't know how many times I have told this, but I am the one who started calling Mary, Mary Naomi, I'm the culprit, and I guess this will haunt me till I die. I started that in the 1960's. --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.

David, Who told you that Mary may have had a middle name? I don't know how many times I have told this, but I am the one who started calling Mary, Mary Naomi, I'm the culprit, and I guess this will haunt me till I die. I started that in the 1960's. Like I have stated before, I started my genealogy 38 years ago, and was confused at Carrie Newton Wright's statement in the Boddie Book about John and Naomi. At that time period when Carrie went into the DAR, she went in on John and stated his wife was Naomi, now after the book was published, the Travel and Religious Experience Of Isaac Newton was found in possession of Nora Cantrell, the original, which the top had been brittle and torn with age, it said son of John and Mary Newton, I do not know who ended up with this priceless documentation. But Miss Annie Lee Boggs who lived in Pendleton, South Carolina typed what it said leaving off what had been torn at the top of the page. This was done in the 1960's I have a copy of that one which was done back in the 1960's, if you have the one that someone added Naomi to it, then yours would be fake. What I am also trying to make myself clear on is that Carrie Newton Wright never knew that her ancestor was Mary Mitchell and not Naomi, like she claimed, I don't believe she ever knew that new evidence had surfaced. If my memory serves me right she was in her late 80's,when she was interested in her Newton family. Her son was a Doctor in Ala, when I last heard from her, she said her son was going to put a stop to her genealogy, because she would get to excited over letters and etc, so I quit writting to her, she had moved in with him. Now to make things worse and I do take the blame for this also. I sent a family group sheet to Gail Andrews with information about her family, by mistake I had not changed the data on John Newton's family group sheet and it still said Mary Naomi Newton. Then Gail not knowing it was incorrect sent it out all over the internet, she sent it to Cindy Teel, who had a web page and published it on her sight. David Payne told me that Cindy was his daughter, and she no longer maintains the sight, so he took over the web page for her. which I'm sure is a full time job. David, Mary Mitchell Newton died in the 1790's are right after 1790 census. Then he married Naomi, sorry to say, South Carolina wasn't required to record marriages in that time frame. Naomi after John died, left and went to Tenn and ended up in Mo where she died. I have lots of info on that family, but Ernest should be able to tell you what you need to know about that side of the family, because he descends from Larkin. Now where do you get that John died in 1787? What happened to the data I sent you, I thought it was pretty well documented. Estate papers say 1799. John Newton's son Isaac writes in his Travels that he and his father John went to Va in 1798, he is alive and well other than he did have rheumatism. David have you had the time to correct Henry's wife's name to Nancy Davidson and not Glass? Gay Nix 1526 W. Hull st Denison, Texas 75020 Please feel free to call are write me. Phone: 903-465-7964 "David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com> wrote: Bryan, Gay, Ernest, and Helen, On the John Newton that married Mary Mitchell and Naomi????? I heard that Mary's middle name may have been Naomi. Since Mary didn't die till 1841 in Newton, MO, either Naomi married John first or he divorced Mary???? Or is that Naomi that died in 1841 in MO? John died in 1787 so he couldn't have sired a child in 1794. Do you think there may have been another John Newton that married that Naomi Mitchell?, Richardson?, or what ever her name was? I am beginning to believe that Mary Mitchell was also Naomi. What do y'all think? Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton Check my websites at bottom of this mail. DAVE From: LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: Ernest Young <eyoung@felpsis.net>, newton@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:59:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book Ernest, We know that Isaac Mitchell had a will and named his children, and grandchildren and etc, there was no mention of Naomi listed in this will, she was still living when will was made, so do not think she was a sister to Mary. The only children John had with Mary was William, Henry and Isaac. I don't know who the females were in 1790, perhaps children from Naomi are females born to Mary, not sure when John married Naomi. Gay Nix Ernest Young wrote: Helen, Do you have any proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell? I am descended from John Newton and Naomi through their son Larkin Newton (b: 17 March 1794 in South Carolina and d: 21 May 1858 near Midlothian, Ellis Co., Texas). Those of us who have been researching this branch have not found any proof her maiden name was Mitchell. That could imply that she likely was a sister of Mary Mitchell, John Newton's first wife. And while that certainly happened in many instances back then, and now, too, there is no proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell. As far as I know, her maiden surname is not known. What is your descendant line from John Newton and Naomi? Ernest Young Floresville, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Thomas" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book > Bryan, > > Was your John Newton married to Naomi Mitchell? If so, they were my 4th > great grandparents. > > Helen In Nevada > David S. Payne, otime1@yahoo.com : My websites: My surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA, & Western NC: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime My wife's Newton, Gray, Patterson, and other kin: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel My Pictures, etc: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/?Welcome=1095014020 --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

Mary Mitchell Newton and Naomi maiden name unknown married the same man, who was John Newton. Gay Nix "David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com> wrote: Gregg, I think that title may have been amended by someone other than Isaac Newton. That is the way it was sent it to me. I will have to do some checking to find just who added that "son of John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton" to the document. I only have a transcribed document of this so I would love to see the original too. I will attach what I have to you soon. They are on my other computer. Now, getting back to the Mary Mitchell and Naomi thing. From all the info I have seen, I am beginning to believe that Mary and Naomi must have married two different John Newtons as Naomi had a child in 1797 and John died at least 10 years before that, right? DAVE From: Gregg Bonner To: newton@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:47:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton Hi Dave, --- "David S. Payne" wrote: > Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article > THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, > son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton Is it? I have seen claim that the article title includes the "son of John...." part, but I have never witnessed that aspect of it with my own eyes. Is it possible for you to scan the title page of the article and post it to your website so that we can all see that part as well? Cheers, Gregg --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

Hi Dave, I don't know. In cases like this, I just look to see if it resolves at WorldConnect. In this case it is quite clear that some people think that this John Newton died 11 Nov 1787, and others think he died 11 Nov 1799. I don't know where either of these dates come from. Best, Gregg --- "David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com> wrote: > Gregg, > I think that title may have been amended by someone other than > Isaac Newton. That is the way it was sent it to me. I will have to do > some checking to find just who added that "son of John and Mary > Mitchell (Naomi) Newton" to the document. I only have a transcribed > document of this so I would love to see the original too. > I will attach what I have to you soon. They are on my other > computer. > Now, getting back to the Mary Mitchell and Naomi thing. From all > the info I have seen, I am beginning to believe that Mary and Naomi > must have married two different John Newtons as Naomi had a child in > 1797 and John died at least 10 years before that, right? > > DAVE > > From: Gregg Bonner <greggbonner@yahoo.com> > To: newton@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:47:06 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton > > Hi Dave, > > --- "David S. Payne" wrote: > > > Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article > > THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, > > son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton > > Is it? I have seen claim that the article title includes the "son of > John...." part, but I have never witnessed that aspect of it with my > own eyes. > > Is it possible for you to scan the title page of the article and post > it to your website so that we can all see that part as well? > > Cheers, > > Gregg > > > --------------------------------- > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.

The below info was found in some files that my daughter got from Gordon Parks a long while ago. I don't know much about the estate of this John. Does anyone have the estate papers of this John Newton and/or others? Since our info says John Newton that m. Mary Mitchell died in 1787, his estate should have been administrated earlier than 1799 or at least started before that. I am wandering if the below estate papers is talking about a different John Newton that m. Naomi as she had a baby in 1797. So her John must have died in 1799? Also I understand that Mary Mitchell Newton is still living in 1840. I believe we have two John Newtons mixed up. This happened so many times while "little old ladies" were applying to the DAR and left out generations. This info from Gordon Parks (e-mail glparks@frontiernet.net). "John Newton b. 1750 in VA enlisted in the First Regiment of South Carolina on 31 December 1776 and re-enlisted on 1 February 1780. He became a corporal on 4 June 1777 and became a sergeant on 3 June 1779. He served under Captain Simeon Theus. He was at the seige of Charleston." "In Edgefield C ounty, SC estate papers in Apartment 43 package 1785 the estate papers of joh Newton. On 11 March 1799 Naomi Newton, Amos Richardson and Rafeal (?) Wilson were made administrators of John Newton's estate. Naomi made her mark and the others signed." "On 11 March 1799 four men were ordered that all or at least three of them inventory the estate within 90 days. This was completed on 1 June 1799. The sale took place 1 October 1799 by William Johnston, crier. "Neomy Nuten" was the only family member to purchase at the sale. She purchased among other items, a mare, flax wheel and cards and sow. The most expensive item sold was a hogshead of tobacco for 40 pounds of sterling. The entire estate sold for about 139 sterling. Gordon said he cannot find Naomi after this." David S. Payne, otime1@yahoo.com : My websites: My surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA, & Western NC: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime My wife's Newton, Gray, Patterson, and other kin: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel My Pictures, etc: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/?Welcome=1095014020 --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

Gregg, I think that title may have been amended by someone other than Isaac Newton. That is the way it was sent it to me. I will have to do some checking to find just who added that "son of John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton" to the document. I only have a transcribed document of this so I would love to see the original too. I will attach what I have to you soon. They are on my other computer. Now, getting back to the Mary Mitchell and Naomi thing. From all the info I have seen, I am beginning to believe that Mary and Naomi must have married two different John Newtons as Naomi had a child in 1797 and John died at least 10 years before that, right? DAVE From: Gregg Bonner <greggbonner@yahoo.com> To: newton@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:47:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton Hi Dave, --- "David S. Payne" wrote: > Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article > THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, > son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton Is it? I have seen claim that the article title includes the "son of John...." part, but I have never witnessed that aspect of it with my own eyes. Is it possible for you to scan the title page of the article and post it to your website so that we can all see that part as well? Cheers, Gregg --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.

Hi Dave, --- "David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com> wrote: > Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article > THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, > son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton Is it? I have seen claim that the article title includes the "son of John...." part, but I have never witnessed that aspect of it with my own eyes. Is it possible for you to scan the title page of the article and post it to your website so that we can all see that part as well? Cheers, Gregg ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

Bryan, Gay, Ernest, and Helen, On the John Newton that married Mary Mitchell and Naomi????? I heard that Mary's middle name may have been Naomi. Since Mary didn't die till 1841 in Newton, MO, either Naomi married John first or he divorced Mary???? Or is that Naomi that died in 1841 in MO? John died in 1787 so he couldn't have sired a child in 1794. Do you think there may have been another John Newton that married that Naomi Mitchell?, Richardson?, or what ever her name was? I am beginning to believe that Mary Mitchell was also Naomi. What do y'all think? Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton Check my websites at bottom of this mail. DAVE From: LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: Ernest Young <eyoung@felpsis.net>, newton@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:59:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book Ernest, We know that Isaac Mitchell had a will and named his children, and grandchildren and etc, there was no mention of Naomi listed in this will, she was still living when will was made, so do not think she was a sister to Mary. The only children John had with Mary was William, Henry and Isaac. I don't know who the females were in 1790, perhaps children from Naomi are females born to Mary, not sure when John married Naomi. Gay Nix Ernest Young wrote: Helen, Do you have any proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell? I am descended from John Newton and Naomi through their son Larkin Newton (b: 17 March 1794 in South Carolina and d: 21 May 1858 near Midlothian, Ellis Co., Texas). Those of us who have been researching this branch have not found any proof her maiden name was Mitchell. That could imply that she likely was a sister of Mary Mitchell, John Newton's first wife. And while that certainly happened in many instances back then, and now, too, there is no proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell. As far as I know, her maiden surname is not known. What is your descendant line from John Newton and Naomi? Ernest Young Floresville, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Thomas" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book > Bryan, > > Was your John Newton married to Naomi Mitchell? If so, they were my 4th > great grandparents. > > Helen In Nevada > David S. Payne, otime1@yahoo.com : My websites: My surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA, & Western NC: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime My wife's Newton, Gray, Patterson, and other kin: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel My Pictures, etc: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/?Welcome=1095014020 --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.

Ernest, We know that Isaac Mitchell had a will and named his children, and grandchildren and etc, there was no mention of Naomi listed in this will, she was still living when will was made, so do not think she was a sister to Mary. The only children John had with Mary was William, Henry and Isaac. I don't know who the females were in 1790, perhaps children from Naomi are females born to Mary, not sure when John married Naomi. Gay Nix Ernest Young <eyoung@felpsis.net> wrote: Helen, Do you have any proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell? I am descended from John Newton and Naomi through their son Larkin Newton (b: 17 March 1794 in South Carolina and d: 21 May 1858 near Midlothian, Ellis Co., Texas). Those of us who have been researching this branch have not found any proof her maiden name was Mitchell. That could imply that she likely was a sister of Mary Mitchell, John Newton's first wife. And while that certainly happened in many instances back then, and now, too, there is no proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell. As far as I know, her maiden surname is not known. What is your descendant line from John Newton and Naomi? Ernest Young Floresville, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Thomas" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book > Bryan, > > Was your John Newton married to Naomi Mitchell? If so, they were my 4th > great grandparents. > > Helen In Nevada > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bryan newton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 6:44 AM > Subject: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book > > >> Hello all Newton Descendants, >> >> >> I am asking all the descendants of John Newton born in 1750 to > contribute to my book. The info I am looking for is Newton family > genealogy > info, Family pictures and a Family story. I am trying to finish my book by > the end of this year. >> >> >> Thanks to all, >> >> Bryan Newton >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Get your own web address. >> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

Hi! I am a descendant of the Matthew Newtons of Connecticut. My 4TH great grandfather was Nathan Newton who married Eleanor/Ellen Palmer daughter of Amos Palmer and Mary/Molly York.If anyone one of you have been to the Palmer-Newton cemetery in Voluntown,Connecticut;please contact me at scottbillhirst2yahoo.com ,. I am sharing this through "Bcc:" with my genealogy list. Good Luck! Relatively yours, Scott --- bryan newton <bryannewton2027@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello all Newton Descendants, > > > I am asking all the descendants of John > Newton born in 1750 to contribute to my book. > The info I am looking for is Newton family > genealogy info, Family pictures and a Family > story. I am trying to finish my book by the end > of this year. > > > Thanks to all, > > Bryan Newton > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small > Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > Scott Bill Hirst 20 Maple Court Ashaway,RI 02804-1301 USA (401)377-4643 Note:Telephone if you need quick reply.

OH, I forgot to sent my websites in last mail so it is on the one below. To all Newton descendants of John Newton and Mary Mitchell and Naomi Mitchell or Richardson??? I am interested in hearing from you personally at otime1@yahoo.com. I always heard that Naomi was a Mitchell but now not sure since y'all have said she may be Richardson or not known surname. My wife descends from John and his first wife Mary Mitchell thru their son William Newton, Sr. as far as we know. They settled in Pendleton/Pickens/Oconee/Anderson Co. SC and some still here in Anderson Co. SC where I live. I haven't done a whole lot of research on them yet so I need lots of help. My websites are below to see what I have collected with the help of many cousins. Some is really old research so we need to prove or disprove it. David S. Payne, otime1@yahoo.com : My websites: My surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA, & Western NC: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime My wife's Newton, Gray, Patterson, and other kin: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel My Pictures, etc: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/?Welcome=1095014020 --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

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What were these son's names? I have a Robert Newton b. abt.1818 who I cannot connect to a parent or grandparent as yet. Judy jryden@charter.net A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. On Jan 14, 2007, at 4:20 50 PM, bryan newton wrote: > Judy, > > The John Newton I am talking about was born 1750 in VA, He was > married twice, Mary Mitchell and Naomi (Richardson)?? He had three > sons by each wife. He died in 1799 in SC. > > bryan > > Judy <jryden@charter.net> wrote: > Need more info to figure out which John Newton > you are referring to here. > > Where was he born? > Who did he marry? > List of his known children... > their dates and places? > When and where did this John die? > > Judy > jryden@charter.net > > A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. > > > > On Jan 14, 2007, at 6:44 32 AM, bryan newton wrote: > >> Hello all Newton Descendants, >> >> >> I am asking all the descendants of John Newton born in 1750 to >> contribute to my book. The info I am looking for is Newton family >> genealogy info, Family pictures and a Family story. I am trying to >> finish my book by the end of this year. >> >> >> Thanks to all, >> >> Bryan Newton >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Get your own web address. >> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, The John Newton I am talking about was born 1750 in VA, He was married twice, Mary Mitchell and Naomi (Richardson)?? He had three sons by each wife. He died in 1799 in SC. bryan Judy <jryden@charter.net> wrote: Need more info to figure out which John Newton you are referring to here. Where was he born? Who did he marry? List of his known children... their dates and places? When and where did this John die? Judy jryden@charter.net A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. On Jan 14, 2007, at 6:44 32 AM, bryan newton wrote: > Hello all Newton Descendants, > > > I am asking all the descendants of John Newton born in 1750 to > contribute to my book. The info I am looking for is Newton family > genealogy info, Family pictures and a Family story. I am trying to > finish my book by the end of this year. > > > Thanks to all, > > Bryan Newton > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.