Okay...I'm not sure, but I think the reason the counter isn't always going up for ya'll is that your computers are 1.) storing a copy of the page in the Cache...so hold the Shift key and click on Refresh and/or 2.) the count device may attempt to keep track of you by cookies...try deleting your cookies and then go back...see if it increments then... Just some random ideas...I don't really know. Thomas simers1@juno.com