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    1. RE: NEWGEN-D Digest V05 #25
    2. Yvonne - Emetrix
    3. unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: NEWGEN-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NEWGEN-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:18 AM To: NEWGEN-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NEWGEN-D Digest V05 #25

    02/02/2005 07:45:27
    1. Re: [NEWGEN] Number of Your Ancestors
    2. bunny
    3. Hi SAE and Sally and All Others. 14 generations... WOW... I would be interesting to see how far back our listers have gone and how they broke their brick walls down.... come on gang let's hear it from you all. I have my maternal and paternal parents only. They were all born in Poland. My side in Rudnik and my husbands side in Sanok. I have NO idea how to get information from Poland. Maybe a trip to the LDS near me might help. I should call them and find out if there are microfilm I could read. Any ideas for me? Bunny How far back have some of you been able to go? I am talking WITH DOCUMENTS to stand behind it. I have seen some who say they can go clear to Noah but where is the written proof??

    02/02/2005 07:28:29
    1. Re: [NEWGEN] Number of Your Ancestors
    2. S&R Ash
    3. Bunny, Sally and All, These charts are always interesting. It makes the little bit we have done seem like "a drop in a bucket of water". How far back have some of you been able to go? I am talking WITH DOCUMENTS to stand behind it. I have seen some who say they can go clear to Noah but where is the written proof?? I am able to document some of my lines to 10 generations but most are still sitting around 5 and 6 generations. Have one that I still cannot get the 5th great grandmother beyond her given name. This has taken years of looking to get where I am today. One is a little shaky with 14 generations, but pretty sure its correct. We have some "genealogy of family" without documents that take us to the first King of England but that one is just for fun. I haven't really looked into that yet. I will be happy as can be if I can just find Charlotts maiden name and who her parents were as well as her husbands parents. I might even "retire" for a while if I find this information. GRIN! Sue Ellen "Life is what happens while you are making other plans" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/05

    02/02/2005 06:58:56
    1. long lived people
    2. faye parker
    3. My grt. grandmother lived to see 2 of her grt. grandchildren become grt. grandparents, so going back 6 generations is not hard here. But seeking a grandmother or grandfather is hard in a way, to comprehend because they can be of 2-3 different generations. My mother's father was born 1907, my dad's father 1890. My grandmother(mater) 1914, grandmother(pater) 1886.My grandmother's(maternal) 2nd husband was 4 years older than her father. fuzzy-brandy-butter-elf Proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

    02/02/2005 05:20:01
    1. Re: [NEWGEN] Number of Your Ancestors
    2. faye parker
    3. My dad's family(parker) back to England circa William of Normandy or close am a descendant of John of Gaunt(illegit). My mother's family(linke/link) unfortunately all trace back to Germany and with all the witch hunts and executions only go back to the 1690's. It really depends on which surname I pick, my whitson name goes back to Colonial Va. My Freeland name back to Colonial NC. I belong to the DAR, Daughters of the Confederacy and the IBSSG, and have a Hessian soldier who might have shot at one of his distant cousins during the war, one branch spelled their name Linke, one Link, one from Germany one from England. fuzzy-brandy-butter-elf Proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo!

    02/02/2005 05:12:50
    1. Number of Your Ancestors
    2. Sally Pavia
    3. Number of Your Ancestors (Parents of parents, etc. No aunts, uncles, cousins, sisters, or brothers) http://www.familyforest.com/resources.html Heck of a lot of folk if you go back 40 generations, which I'm sure we all have done already, you have 1,099,511,627,775 direct Ancestors. .. Sally Sally Rolls Pavia sallypavia2001@yahoo.com "Books permit us to voyage through time, to tap the wisdom of our ancestors." .. Carl Sagan List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    02/02/2005 03:20:53
    1. Online Scottish Research using Original Records and Major Indexes .. sorry if this is a duplication
    2. Sally Pavia
    3. Online Scottish Research using Original Records and Major Indexes www.newenglandancestors.org/education/articles/NEA/5-5_009_Scot_Milner.asp by Paul Milner Those of us researching men and women in or from Scotland are luckier than most when it comes to using the Internet. We have online access to original records and large comprehensive indexes, thanks to a number of excellent websites that are growing each year. These websites, as we shall see, are accurate and helpful if used correctly. Scotland’s People Let’s start with the best and the biggest. The website at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk is a partnership between the General Register Office for Scotland (GROS) and Scotland On Line. The GROS administers the registration of births, marriages, deaths, divorces, adoptions, and the decennial census of Scotland’s population. It is therefore an important record keeper. From a research perspective, the question to ask is, “What original records and indexes are available at this site?” Let’s begin with census data. Currently available are complete indexes and scanned images of the 1891 and 1901 census. For 1881 there are an index and complete transcript, but no original images. Indexes for 1841 through 1871 are proposed for later in 2004, along with scanned images of the census. This site will only get better as more information is added. The registration of all births, marriages, and deaths by the government began in Scotland in 1855. Scotland’s People offers the indexes and scanned originals for births 1855 to 1903, marriages 1855 to 1928 (with a few years of scanned images missing), and deaths from 1855 to 1953.Online records for each event increase annually. Prior to 1855 churches maintained birth/christening, marriage, and death/burial records. The earliest date from 1553, although the records of many churches begin much later. The Old Parish Register Index to events recorded by the Established Church of Scotland, is now available, but does not include data from the Presbyterian churches that broke away, or from other non-conformists. The website informs us that images of the original registers are coming. As descendants of true Scottish ancestors we are always concerned about costs! Here, £6 (approximately $11), payable by credit card, provides thirty page credits which last forty-eight hours, so we are well advised to be prepared ahead of time. When searching the indexes, we will find results displayed in groups of up to twenty-five names for one credit. We are told how many names are generated by the search before we look at the results in case there are too many and we want to change our search parameters. The viewing of an actual image costs five credits. Case study and alternatives The www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ website is important, but it is not the only way to access Scottish vital records. Most researchers are familiar with the International Genealogical Index (IGI), available online for free at www.familysearch.org. Some events recorded in the IGI are extractions from original records, while others are patron submissions that may or may not be accurate. Care needs to be taken in reading the source of the information. For example if we search for Thomas Trotter, born around 1760 in Roxburgh we find a christening on August 3, 1760, in Melrose, Roxburgh. The source is an extraction from original parish registers on film. The parents are listed as John Trotter and Alison Marr. A marriage for this couple is shown on May 22, 1756, in Melrose, but is a patron submission. Therefore, we need to check another source. We can do so by accessing the Scottish Church Records Index at any local Family History Center (FHC). This indexes covers births/christenings and marriages recorded within the Established Church of Scotland and is basically the same index available online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ for a fee. A search of either index confirms that the John and Alison were married on this date in Melrose. Whenever we search an index, we still need to check the original registers for two reasons. First, we want to verify information from the indexes. Second, we want any additional data in original sources. Currently the only way to check these sources in North America is through a local Family History Center (FHC). Normally when we check church records, we also look for death or burial data. But such are not included in the Scottish Church Records Index, online at Scotland’s People or in many churches, and when death information does appear in church records it is often very sporadic. As more data become available online, how we search may depend upon whether we seek for one individual or many family members within a given locality. Our access to a FHC is a factor, as is the amount of money we want to spend on our search. When looking for a post–1855 birth, marriage, or death, online searches and access to original images make the Internet the quickest and cheapest way to gather data, unless we seek a common name over a number of years, or a family that stayed in one location. Births and marriages from 1855 to 1875 are indexed and included in the IGI. For deaths or other years we would use www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ and pay the search fee. We should view the scanned image of the original record to see what additional information is provided, and to check that we have the correct individual or couple. We can access the census records at Scotland’s People. Alternatively, a complete transcript of the 1881 census for Scotland, England, and Wales can be purchased on CD-ROM inexpensively at www.familysearch.org/. Microfilm copies of census images from 1841 through 1891 are available through your local FHC. The only way to access the 1901 census outside the British Isles is via the Internet. Scottish documents At www.scottishdocuments.com we can search an index to all 520,000 wills and testaments in a multitude of Scottish courts covering 1500 through 1901. We can then obtain for most of these a high quality scanned image of the original. Images from missing courts are added to the website regularly. This website simplifies probate research in Scotland because we can now search all courts at once. We do not need to know the court in which a will was probated. The website lists which courts have images online and which do not. An advanced search on this website allows us to limit our search to a specific court or commissariat, a description field such as title/occupation/place, or a specific date. When dealing with a common name it helps to know the most likely court. If you know the parish of your ancestors, courts for specific parishes are listed at www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa/sct-test-pre1801.html. So, for example, when I search the surname Trotter in Peebles Commissary Court there are four results for the years between 1681 and 1827. One is a George Trotter with a probate date of April 16, 1812, a tenant in Kerchesters. I can ask for more information. Here I find that this record is an inventory, Extract Deed of Settlement, twenty-four pages in length, with its full reference. The typical record is one or two pages. The cost of a scanned image of this record, £5 (approximately $9), is the same whether the document is two pages or twenty-four. When reading old documents, such as these wills, we will encounter Scottish words we do not understand or recognize. We can check The Dictionary of the Scots Language at www.dsl.ac.uk/dsl. Scots in the British military The Scots have been fighting in the British Army for centuries. Two very large databases cover many of our ancestors in the military. One at The National Archives is for soldiers discharged to pension between 1760 and 1854. The second is the Commonwealth War Graves Commission recording soldiers who died in World Wars I and II. The National Archives (formerly the Public Record Office) The National Archives catalog for individual soldiers discharged to pension is located at www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp. We can search on any word or phrase (surname, place name, etc.) requesting the search be conducted in WO97 and WO121, and will likely find enough information to know whether a given soldier is a relative. Records are organized by regiment; copies are available on microfilm through your local Family History Center. Its Information Leaflets describe these and many more records in more detail. Commonwealth War Graves Commission For soldiers who died in the First or Second World War, we can check www.cwgc.org. Here we can search by name and hope that biographical information, such as next of kin, allows us to distinguish our soldier from others with the same name. A search for Albert George Trotter shows that he was a private in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, “B” Company, 14th Battalion, with service number S/9082 and was twenty-four years old when he was killed on September 3, 1916. He is buried at Fins New British Cemetery, Sorel-Le-Grand. Under “additional information” we learn that he was the son of Albert Wood Trotter and Isabella Trotter of Crook’s Cottages, Coldstream, Berwickshire, and a native of Rowchester, Greenlaw, Berwickshire. We can then return to the online version of the 1901 census and find seven-year-old Albert living with his parents and two older siblings in Greenlaw. Albert’s father Albert is working as a shepherd. This example shows how quickly online sources can be utilized to begin a pedigree. Putting our ancestors into context A great place to begin putting ancestors in context is the Statistical Accounts of Scotland at http://edina.ac.uk/ statacc. Here is a digitized version of the first two Statistical Accounts, covering the 1790s and 1830s. Data varies greatly from one parish to the next depending on the personal interests of the local minister. But overall the accounts provide a superb picture of life in local communities and changes over time. For example, a search for Melrose, where the Trotters were married, gives us sixteen pages with headings covering name and extent; soil; agriculture, and produce; manufactures (with details of the local linen industry); population (with numbers of non-conformists in the parish); religion; stipend, school, etc.; the poor; abbeys; and camps. To identify surrounding parishes, we can visit the Parish Locator Database at www.genuki.org.uk/big/churchdb/search.html. We can adjust the number of miles from our parish of interest and receive a list of those nearby, with approximate distances. We should then return to the Statistical Accounts of Scotland to read data on surrounding parishes. Scottish Archive Network The Scottish Archive Network at www.scan.org.uk provides an online catalog to access the holdings of fifty-two archives in Scotland — a total of over twenty thousand collections. Within this site is a large quantity of material that will help put your ancestors into context. In the Digital Archives section, for example, there is an index to five thousand Australian-bound names in the Highlands & Islands Emigration Society passenger lists, 1852–1857, one of the few emigration sources held by the National Archives of Scotland. In that same section we find population tables for the Isle of Skye, from 1755 to 1841, an image of an 1849 petition, an 1849 letter describing conditions on the Isle of Skye, and a transcript of the society rules from 1851. In the Family History Section and Knowledge Database we find images of the 1891 Annual Report of the Medical Officer of Health arranged by county, with community mortality rates and causes, infectious diseases, population distribution, industries, offensive trades, working-class housing, water supply, river pollution, and local hospitals and health services. Conclusion Access to original records and major indexes is simplifying the search for Scottish ancestors. However, as serious researchers, we will always need to examine originals online or at a local FHC to make sure we are extracting all available data. With care, we can create a well-developed pedigree using online records. Ultimately, however, such research cannot replace a trip to Scotland. A personal visit will take us beyond basic record groups to items neither online nor on film and likely never to be. But you did want a reason to go to Scotland, didn’t you? Paul Milner, is co-author with Linda Jonas of A Genealogist’s Guide to Discovering Your Scottish Ancestors (Betterway, 2002) and A Genealogist’s Guide to Discovering your English Ancestors (Betterway, 2000). He is a native of northern England, and a nationally-recognized lecturer specializing in British Isles research. Sally Rolls Pavia sallypavia2001@yahoo.com "Books permit us to voyage through time, to tap the wisdom of our ancestors." .. Carl Sagan List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    02/01/2005 10:31:19
    1. The Hidden Treasures of the Early U.S. Census
    2. Sally Pavia
    3. The Hidden Treasures of the Early U.S. Census by Sandi Fraley As genealogists, we attack the census records with zealousness unequaled by an ant in a pile of crumbs! All those names and ages-birth places and locations-just set our hearts a flitter with excitement! Indeed, it is often the result of a long and arduous search when we locate our ancestors and find their siblings, parents, or other identifiable relatives in the census. But, did you remember to check the hidden treasures? For reasons ranging from determining a military force to calculating our food supplies-anticipating a tax base to educating our children, the government had reasons beyond identifying the populace when they created the first census. The early censuses concentrated on the number males in order to calculate the nation's ability to raise an army. Concerns regarding the health and financial dependency of its citizens prompted additional questions over the next forty years. The 1850 census indicated the occupation of male, whether an individual was married within the year, attended school, or could read and write. Additional health questions noted anyone in the household who was insane, idiotic, pauper, or convict. Although the terms are not "politically correct," you must remember that a cripple was once considered idiotic, and insanity included persons with such afflictions as epilepsy. An important change in 1850 was the instruction for the census taker to list household members in a particular order. First, the head of the household, followed by the spouse, children listed in order of age-oldest child first-and parents or in-laws of the head of household, then the spouse. If the household had servants or boarders, they were listed after the relatives. The Golden Fleece of 19th Century census records is the 1880 census! The relationship to the head of household was listed for each person in the residence, and adults listed whether they were single, married, widowed or divorced. The census taker not only listed the birth place of each individual, but the birthplace of their parents. Many of the same questions from previous censuses remained, with clarifications and some additions. One addition worth mentioning is the health question of whether a person was maimed, crippled, bedridden, or otherwise disabled. Each of these questions is a treasure-a puzzle piece in locating and identifying your ancestors. The additional information on each census can help you verify your ancestors as you track them through the years. Sons often carried on their father's occupation, and remained on the family land. An ancestor whose parents were foreign born is easier to identify when you know the country of their origin. It may not eliminate all of your choices, but it will certainly narrow them. Locating a widowed ancestor in one census, only to lose them in the next, may indicate that she has remarried. Clues such as these are limitless, so attack those census records with an eye on those hidden treasures! Happy Hunting! Source: GenWeekly, 20/Jan/2005 Sally Rolls Pavia sallypavia2001@yahoo.com "Books permit us to voyage through time, to tap the wisdom of our ancestors." .. Carl Sagan List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    02/01/2005 10:17:08
    1. Early Chicago
    2. Sally Pavia
    3. This website is based on the book .. A Compendium of the Early History of Chicago to the Year 1835, when the Indians left. The volume was self-published by the authors in the year 2000. The intent of book and website is to inform about all persons and all significant events for which historical records can be located. Any book on history, once printed, is set, and will in time become obsolete. This website, however, will be updated with the continuing stream of new information that ongoing research provides. Already, with reader participation, many of the stories have continued to enlarge. Such is the nature of historic records, that they are never finite. Once the time of the authors and present contributors has run out, our intention is that the work will be continued by a foundation established for this very purpose. GENEALOGY This website is a rich source of genealogical information. Typing the name of an early Chicago citizen or visitor into the SEARCH box will likely lead to one or more text portions dealing with family connections. http://www.earlychicago.com/ Sally Rolls Pavia sallypavia2001@yahoo.com "Books permit us to voyage through time, to tap the wisdom of our ancestors." .. Carl Sagan List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    02/01/2005 09:55:57
    1. From Cyndi's list
    2. Gloria Motter
    3. http://www.brokenbranches.co.uk Brokenbranches is a free web site for people who have come to a dead stop with their family tree. Glory Gospel Group http://glorygospelgroup.homestead.com/Welcome.html Cades Cove Preservation Site http://cadescovepreservationtn.homestead.com/welcome.html Cades Cove,TN Site http://cadescove.homestead.com/cadescove.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/2005

    02/01/2005 04:22:10
    1. databases
    2. bunny
    3. This is very interesting. Bunny Ancestry has several large free databases, and many small free databases. Take a look here to see all the free databases. http://www.searchforancestors.com/ancestryfreebies.html SHARE.....SHARE.....SHARE....

    01/31/2005 02:43:28
    1. From Cyndi's List
    2. Gloria Motter
    3. http://ww1cemeteries.com ww1 cemeteries.com Photographs of all the Great War cemeteries containing over 40 burials in France and Belgium. Find the final resting place of your ancestor. Glory Gospel Group http://glorygospelgroup.homestead.com/Welcome.html Cades Cove Preservation Site http://cadescovepreservationtn.homestead.com/welcome.html Cades Cove,TN Site http://cadescove.homestead.com/cadescove.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/2005

    01/31/2005 11:18:46
    1. RE: NEWGEN-D Digest V05 #23
    2. Yvonne - Emetrix
    3. Please unsubscribe me from your list. Thank you. yvonne@hallsnet.com yvonne@emetrix.com -----Original Message----- From: NEWGEN-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NEWGEN-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:38 AM To: NEWGEN-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NEWGEN-D Digest V05 #23

    01/31/2005 06:51:52
    1. Ellis Island and Your Ancestors
    2. Sally Pavia
    3. Close to the mouth of the Hudson River in New York harbor is a small island which is forever etched in our country's history. Formerly known as Oyster Island, Ellis Island was the gateway to the new land for more than 10 million immigrants between its opening in 1892 and its closing in 1931. For most of these "huddled masses yearning to breathe free," processing through Ellis Island often required several days. As each ship entered the Lower Bay of New York Harbor, it was diverted to a quarantine area. Here medical inspectors would board the incoming ships to check for possible contagious diseases: cholera, plague, smallpox, typhoid fever, yellow fever, scarlet fever, measles, and diphtheria. The quarantine examination conducted aboard ship was reserved for first- or second-class cabin passengers. U.S. citizens were altogether exempt from the examination, so for them this was just an aggravating pause. However, passengers in steerage had to wait for their examinations later at Ellis Island. For them, quarantine was a time of heightened frustration and ever-increasing anxiety. Ships were examined from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. daily. This meant that any vessel arriving after 5 p.m. had to anchor for the night, yet another day's delay for the weary immigrants. After passing medical inspection, the ships were allowed to dock in New York. Each immigrant wore a name tag with the individual's manifest number - their identifying number from the ship's passenger list - written in large figures. The immigrants were then assembled in groups of thirty, according to manifest numbers, and were crowded onto the top decks of barges while their baggage was piled onto the lower decks. Soon they arrived at Ellis Island's landing slip and were led to the main building's large reception room. Here, at last, immigrants would take the final step in their journey to freedom in America. The huge halls at Ellis Island provided basic accommodations, dormitory-style sleeping quarters, and a large dining hall. The immigrants had to stay here for one to three days or sometimes even longer, their costs paid by the steamship company that brought them, until relatives or friends called for them. Most of the newcomers had to have a "sponsor" meet them and guarantee to pay their living expenses. Those immigrants carrying sufficient funds to prove they were self-sufficient could enter the country without a sponsor. Any unfortunate travelers with neither funds nor sponsor were sent back to the old world at the expense of the steamship company. The same was true for anyone found to have a noxious disease, as well as for those identified as idiots, lunatics, and convicts. One myth that persists today is that many immigrants had their names changed at Ellis Island because they could not converse with English-speaking immigration officials. A close examination of government records soon dispels this American legend, however. Each immigrant carried documentation written in their native language by authorities in "the old country." These documents always listed the complete name of each immigrant, along with details of their nationality and place of origin. Any immigrant arriving without proper documentation was sent back at the expense of the steamship company. Having no desire to pay such expenses, all the shipping lines would verify documentation in the old country before allowing their passengers to embark. This verification in "the old country" typically was done by local natives who were fluent in the language involved. In addition, Ellis Island hired a small army of interpreters. The interpreters spoke the required languages fluently. Most were either prior immigrants themselves or the children of immigrants who learned their mother tongue as children. In retrospect, these interpreters were the unsung heroes of the entire immigration screening process. Their patience and skill often helped save an immigrant from deportation. The average number of languages spoken by an interpreter was six, but fluency in a dozen languages (including dialects) was not uncommon. The record for a single interpreter was fifteen languages. As a result of the required documentation and the examinations held in the would-be immigrant's native language, almost all immigrants had well-documented names and origins. The many family claims of name changes, stowaways, "jumping ship" and other, similar reports are almost always fictitious. One interpreter was Fiorello La Guardia, who would later become famous as the mayor of New York City responsible for cleaning up the corruption of Tammany Hall. He worked at Ellis Island for an annual salary of $1,200 from 1907 to 1910 and helped thousands of Italians and other immigrants enter the country. These interpreters led groups through the Ellis Island processing. Immigrants were first met by a doctor at the top of a flight of stairs. As the immigrants climbed the stairs, the doctor looked for signs of lameness, heavy breathing that might indicate a heart condition, or "bewildered gazes" that might be symptomatic of a mental condition. As each immigrant passed, the doctor would examine the immigrant's face, hair, neck, and hands. The doctor wielded a piece of chalk to mark the name tags of those who were to be detained for further medical inspection. Roughly 20 percent of the immigrants had their name tags so marked. Sometimes whole groups would be made to bathe with disinfectant solutions before being cleared - not too surprising, considering how many were unable to bathe during the crossing. Next the immigrants encountered a group of doctors known as the dreaded "eye men." They were looking for symptoms of trachoma, an eye disease that might cause blindness and even death. This disease was the reason for more than half of the medical detentions, and its discovery meant certain deportation. This inspection was over in a few seconds, as the doctor tilted the immigrant's head back and swiftly snapped back the upper eyelids over a small instrument that was actually a hook for buttoning shoes. If immigrants had any of the diseases proscribed by the immigration laws, or were too ill or feeble-minded to earn a living, they would be deported. Sick children age 12 or older were sent back to Europe alone and were released in the port from which they had come. For children younger than 12 a parent had to accompany them on the return trip. There were many tearful scenes as families with a sick child decided who would go and who would stay. Immigrants who passed their medical exams were now ready to take the final test from the "primary line" inspector, seated on a high stool, with the ship's manifest on a desk in front of him and an interpreter at his side. This questioning process was designed to verify the 29 items of information contained in the manifest for each passenger. Since each inspector had only about two minutes in which to decide whether each immigrant was "clearly and beyond a doubt entitled to land," nearly all of the immigrants received curt nods of approval and were handed landing cards. They were then free to leave, settle in this strange new land, and raise families. Many of us are thankful that our ancestors "passed the test." If you want to research your ancestors' passage through Ellis Island, you will be glad to know that all the records were preserved and are available for inspection today. You do not need to visit Ellis Island to view them, however. Space on the island has always been limited; the records were removed within days of the immigrants' entry and then stored in government filing cabinets on the mainland. In later years all the records were microfilmed, and thousands of copies are available. You can probably find microfilm copies near you. If not, you can rent the reels of microfilm at very modest costs. Many of the Ellis Island records have also been transcribed into computer databases and are available on the Internet at http://www.EllisIsland.org. However, you need to remember that the online databases contain indexes, or brief extracts. They do not contain all the information available on each immigrant's original record. If you want to see who traveled with the person, the city of birth, the inspector's notes or even the names of the immigrant's parents (which may occasionally be found, especially if the parents accompanied the person whose record you are reading), you will need to look at the microfilm image of the original record. If you only look at the online database, you are not seeing all the available information and therefore are short-changing yourself! Downloaded from: Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter Dated 31 Jan 2005

    01/31/2005 06:38:52
    1. an interesting find with lots and lots of info
    2. faye parker
    3. www.accessgenealogy.com fuzzy-brandy-butter-elf Proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

    01/31/2005 03:39:39
    1. From Cyndi's List
    2. Gloria Motter
    3. http://www.HarrisonCountyGenealogy.com/ Harrison County, IN. Genealogy Naturalizations, Death Index, Marriage Index (Pre 1850), Harrison County Militia, Photos, Scanned Marriage Records, Land Patents, Bethel Church Records, ...(& growing ). =~=~=~= http://www.glasgowcitycemeteries.com Dedicated to the online preservation of all Glasgow cemeteries & remembrance of the individuals interred within. This website will provide (where possible) historical details, locations etc. for each of the burial grounds in the city. With over 10 years experience and passion for the rich legacy that these unique landmarks contain, the authors of this site will strive to help with all enquiries. Glory Gospel Group http://glorygospelgroup.homestead.com/Welcome.html Cades Cove Preservation Site http://cadescovepreservationtn.homestead.com/welcome.html Cades Cove,TN Site http://cadescove.homestead.com/cadescove.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/2005

    01/30/2005 10:39:48
    1. Proper Attire for Men in Mourning
    2. Sally Rolls Pavia
    3. "The Kansas City Journal" (Missouri) Wednesday, March 30, 1898 MEN IN MOURNING. A man wears deep mourning for his mother or wife not less than one year. During that period his business suit should be a rough black cloth and his frock coat the same. The requisite black band, usually of fine black cloth, in preference to crepe, should vary in width from two to four inches, according to the style of the hat. His scarf is of dull black, and never shows a pin. His gloves are heavy black glace kids, excepting for driving or out-of-door sports, when black castor or dogskin may be worn. His handkerchiefs must be all white, with only the narrowest of hemstitched border, neither must they show initials, monogram, or embroidered markings of any description. Instead, the full name or initials written in black indelible ink, preferably by the owner himself. His watch charm is laid aside, and a black guard is used instead, while his gold buttons and studs have as substitutes those enameled to look like the linen itself. His visiting cards, always small, and his stationery have a narrow border. To lighten his loneliness, etiquette allows him to visit his men friends two months after he has assumed mourning. With a man friend or alone he may go, very quietly, to a public place of amusement, but on no account can he wear evening dress, go with a lady or make one of a party.

    01/30/2005 08:36:26
    1. Re: [NEWGEN] Always have a problem with these definitions, especially the first two
    2. ETM
    3. Remember an easy rule, "E"xit for "E"migrate "I"n for "I"mmigrate And when you can't remember the above rule, use "migrate" because it fit almost all of our families <grin>. Elaine The world tolerates conceit from those who are successful, but not from anybody else. --John Blake Hello Sally On Saturday, January 29, 2005, you wrote > 1. Emigrate .. leave one's own country in order to settle permanently in > another. > 2. Immigrate .. come to live permanently in a foreign country. > 3. Migrate .. move to settle in a new area in order to find work. 3 > Computing > transfer from one system to another.

    01/29/2005 12:36:17
    1. Always have a problem with these definitions, especially the first two
    2. Sally Pavia
    3. 1. Emigrate .. leave one's own country in order to settle permanently in another. 2. Immigrate .. come to live permanently in a foreign country. 3. Migrate .. move to settle in a new area in order to find work. 3 Computing transfer from one system to another. Sally Rolls Pavia sallypavia2001@yahoo.com "Books permit us to voyage through time, to tap the wisdom of our ancestors." .. Carl Sagan List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    01/29/2005 10:06:33
    1. A good link for Idaho
    2. bunny
    3. Here's a good link for anyone searching in Idaho..... Enjoy... Bunny http://www.accessidaho.org/aboutidaho/county/

    01/29/2005 08:58:18