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    1. [NEWGEN] MOST WANTED: JEMIMA
    2. I do not know the maiden name of my MOST Wanted person, but her name in 1850 was Jemima HUGHES. JEMIMA (maiden name unknown) HUGHES was born Abt 1810 in Kentucky, and died August 1884 Lamar Co, Texas. She married (2) GEORGE G. KEYS October 20, 1861 in Lamar Co, Texas. [do not know if Hughes is married or maiden name]. Jemima and the four children listed are listed on the 1850 U. S. census for Lamar County, TX. Children of Jemima Hughes are: i. WILLIAM M.2 HUGHES, b. Abt 1837, Illinois. [my line]; d. after 1879 ii. STEWART HUGHES, b. Abt 1835, Illinois; d. between 1850 and 1860 iii. ROBERT HUGHES, b. Abt 1839, Illinois; d. after 1860 iv. LUCINDA HUGHES, b. Abt 1841, Illinois; d. January 1870, Lamar Co, Texas. There is a possibility that Jemima is Jemima Shepherd who married Elijah Hughes in Indiana about 1834. Can someone help me, please? Thanks. Barbara

    09/22/2000 04:56:54
    1. Re: [NEWGEN] Now Hear This!
    2. Carol Brooks
    3. Hi, My most wanted is Elisha W. BLACK. Born somewhere LOL (some say Tenn in 1820 ) Married Martha Coonrod in 1846? Jasper Co. Mo. He died 1860 Crawford Co. Ks.Hard part is on her tombstone says wife of Edward W.BLACK. However my grandfather had always said his grandfather name was Elisha. Carol Dorcas Moseley wrote: > OK.......I'll jump in with my Most Wanted!!!!!!! > > The gang I am most interested in is the JOHANN VALENTIN FLEGLE family > (with many different spellings, such as FLEGAL, FLEAGLE, etc.). Johann > came to this country from Germany 'way back....his g-grandson was my > g-grandfather, Gilbert W. FLEGAL, who resided in Clearfield County, PA. > > Another one is JOHN HENRY, also from Clearfield Co., PA. > > Any cousins out there???????? > > Dorcas > > "Dr. Bill" wrote: > > > This list is beginning to lose its usefulness and therefore my efforts > > to keep it alive. How about a little CPR from those who have > > benefited from its existence in the past! Let's start with a MOST > > WANTED posting! Let's follow that with MY MOST FAVORITE URL (Since we > > all know Cyndi wins that hands down, we can perhaps list some others). > > Next we will do MY FAVORITE LIST. Again since we know that NEWGEN is > > the best will skip it. > > This patient is turning blue, so if you don't want it to pass on, you > > had better participate. > > > > Dr. Bill > > Bill@Dr-Fox.Com > > WebSite {http://www.dr-fox.com} > > > > ==== NEWGEN Mailing List ==== > > INVITE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS TO JOIN THE NEWGEN LIST > > NEWGEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM (FOR LIST) > > MEWGEN-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM (FOR DIGEST) > > ==== NEWGEN Mailing List ==== > WHILE NO CONTROVERSY IS PERMITTED ON NEWGEN THERE IS A SOAPBOX > ON THE WEBSITE HTTP://WWW.DR-FOX.COM WHERE YOU CAN EXPRESS YOURSELF

    09/22/2000 04:55:21
    1. [NEWGEN] Mt.Olive Cemetery Crawford Co. Ks have book
    2. Carol Brooks
    3. Anyone need a lookup?Can send by surname or on smaller entire cemetery Also have several Small cemeteries Including Coonrod Fowler Dumbauld Trogden Williams etc Carol

    09/22/2000 04:52:06
    1. [NEWGEN] Edith Cockayne
    2. However,surely someone in the family must know where in Lancashire your grandmother came from? She must have talked about her home town and her English roots at some time. Actually Roy, this is the problem with Grandma Edith. By the time I was old enough to ask questions she had already passed away. My father,her son, having no interest whatever in genealogy, simply never asked about her past. I have no idea which city or town she came from. Rigth now I'm trying to find out where and when she and Grandpa were married. ( Dad doesn't know this either) Anyway, two years ago while in Phoenix, I spent the better part of three days at the LDS center there. Most of the time I spent working on the MacGregor side of the family and things have really come together on that. I have been into the familysearch.org website and I just can't find anything about the Cockayne's. For a long time I just couldn't understand why my father had never been interested in his own family history, but I've resigned myself to the fact that everyone does not share my passion for a paper trail. I do thank you for shedding some light on British research, and if you have anymore suggestion's I'm listening. Sheila shegrim@aol.com

    09/22/2000 04:01:44
    1. [NEWGEN] A genealogical poem
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. I‘M DESCENDED FROM ADAM! (This poem is a gentle dig at self-important people who indulge in bouts of wishful thinking and award themselves fantastic and ludicrous family trees.) Said the vainglorious fool, with a wave of his hand, ”I‘m descended from Adam, you know." ”Aren‘t we all?" laughed his friend, who was rather less grand, ”But, pray, can you prove it — how so?" ”I can!" quoth the fool, with a gesture so curt, Aggrieved at the other‘s mild scorn. He proclaimed in a voice full of pique and vexed hurt, ”I‘ll make you regret you were born!" >From a shiny black briefcase, all gleaming and smart, Sporting a very superior label, He flourished aloft a voluminous chart And unfurled it with pride on the table. ”Here is your proof," he cried in great glee, Extending his chest fit to bust. ”I‘ll show you the lineage from Adam to me, ”And beg pardon for doubting you must." The other man peered at the fabulous chart, Awash with fine names and bold squiggles. 'Twas all he could do, with the best will at heart, To suppress an attack of the giggles. In fanciful lines from the pre-dawn of mankind, Sprinkled with mythical gods in collusion, The naive fellow had contrived to find A pedigree of utter delusion. >From Noah and his Ark and the kings of old Troy, Through the descendants of Alfred the Great, The ancestry ran in lines of pure joy To a sixth cousin of Henry the Eight. >From Vikings and Normans and Crusaders bold, The family tree was a sham. >From Cromwell and Nelson and generals of old, And even the King of Siam! Through Tudors and Stuarts, Hanoverians, too, Meandering down avenues peculiar, The lineage finally came to a cottage in Looe And an eccentric old lady called Julia. ”My grandmother, you know," said the boastful one, ”Her ancestry is really breathtaking." ”Quite so," said his doubting comrade in fun, ”But are you sure that she wasn‘t faking?" ”How dare you suggest that?" the foolish knave said, ”She‘s really too much of a madam ”To invent such a fiction inside of her head, ”I‘m truly descended from Adam." With a shake of his head, the doubting friend left, His feelings of mirth to relieve. No point in debating with one so bereft, People believe what they want to believe! (Copyright R Stockdill 1998) FROM: "Rhyming Relations: Genealogy in Verse", an 80-page paperback book of genealogical poetry, serious and comic, available from the author. Roy Stockdill Editor, The Journal of One-Name Studies The Stockdill Family History Society (Guild of One-Name Studies, FedFHS) STOCKDILL PREST YELLOW BOLTON WORSNOP GIBSON MIDGLEY BRACEWELL SHACKLETON BRADLEY MOODY in Yorkshire North & West Ridings MEAD YOUNG in Somerset, Wiltshire & Gloucestershire Web page of the Stockdill Family History Society:- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roystock ”Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you. If he does not, why humiliate him?" - Canon Sydney Smith (scholar and humorist 1771-1845)

    09/22/2000 02:45:34
    1. [NEWGEN] Some genealogical "If Onlys..."
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. ONE day, in yet another idle moment, I fell to speculating on what the outcome might have been if history had played strange tricks and certain unlikely matrimonial unions been forged. What, I wondered, might the descendants‘ family names have been? This was the result... IF Chewbacca of Star Wars had married Julie Andrews would their descendants be called Hairy-Poppins? IF the family of sexologist Shere Hite had been descended from novelist Emily Bronte would they have been the Wuthering-Hites? IF Roseanne Barr had been descended from Captain William Bligh would she have been a Bounty-Barr? Or if she had been of very mixed ancestry, would she be a Cocktail-Barr? IF sci-fi writer H. G. Wells had married into the family of the composer Handel might their descendants be called Wells Largo? IF Patty Hearst had married British actor Peter Sellers, would their descendants have been Newspaper-Sellers? IF Bo Derek had been descended from a certain celebrated 17th-century diarist called Samuel, would she have been born as Little Bo Pepys? IF Jane Fonda had married Welsh singer Tom Jones, would their descendants be called Rhondda-Fonda? IF Jack Lemmon had married a stripper, would their descendants be known as Lemmon-Peel? IF Batman married Goldie Hawn, would their descendants be known as Cape-Hawn? IF Madonna had married Freddie Mercury, would their descendants have been Virgin-Queens? IF Glenn Close had been descended from King Camp Gillette (inventor of the safety razor) would she have been a Close-Shave? IF Michael Jackson had wed Phyllis Diller would their descendants take the name of Thriller-Diller? IF Oscar Wilde had married a member of the Kellogg family, would their descendants have been Wilde-Oats? IF Oprah Winfrey had been an impoverished descendant of composer Kurt Weill, would she have been known as The Threepenny Oprah? IF composers Frederic Chopin and Franz Liszt had had children who married each other and anglicised their name, presumably their descendants would now be Shopping-Lists. IF the descendants of Martin Luther had intermarried with those of the man who invented the bath sponge, would the family name now be Martin Loofah? IF Alexander Graham Bell had married a woman who was free with her favours, would their descendants have been Liberty-Bells? IF Hilary Clinton divorced Bill and married Sean Penn, would their descendants be Penn-Pushers? IF Sonny Bono had married Yoko Ono, would their descendants change their name by deed poll to Smith, rather than be known as Bono-Ono??? French historical heroine Joan of Arc left no descendants, but if she had had lots of lovers would they have been known as The Riders Of The Last Arc? And, finally, if Lois Lane is so dumb that it‘s taken her all these years to recognise that Superman is Clark Kent without his glasses, how did she ever manage to find anything that enabled them to have descendants? (Copyright R. Stockdill 1999) Roy Stockdill Editor, The Journal of One-Name Studies The Stockdill Family History Society (Guild of One-Name Studies, FedFHS) STOCKDILL PREST YELLOW BOLTON WORSNOP GIBSON MIDGLEY BRACEWELL SHACKLETON BRADLEY MOODY in Yorkshire North & West Ridings MEAD YOUNG in Somerset, Wiltshire & Gloucestershire Web page of the Stockdill Family History Society:- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roystock ”Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you. If he does not, why humiliate him?" - Canon Sydney Smith (scholar and humorist 1771-1845)

    09/22/2000 02:30:22
    1. [NEWGEN] My Most Wanted
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. I DO not see a real problem about finding a birth certificate for your grandmother. If she was born in 1878, that is well within the time of civil registration, which began in England and Wales in July 1837. If you live anywhere near a Mormon FHC, then many of them have copies of, or access to, the GRO (General Register Office) indexes of births, marriages and deaths on microfilm. The indexes are arranged annually in quarters ending in March, June, September and December. You search the indexes until you find the appropriate entry, then send off to an address in Southport, Merseyside, England (which the FHC should be able to give you) for the certificate. COCKAYNE is not a particularly common name, so there shouldn't be too many of them, I imagine. If she was called Smith, Brown or Jones, then you might have a problem! If you are not anywhere near an LDS FHC, then the alternative is to hire a researcher in London to get the certificate for you. Most of them are quite reasonably priced and charge by the hour. As a matter of information, though, it would be easier to find her if you had a more precise location than just "Lancashire, England". I realise this is a very American-dominated list and, unfortunately, far too many Americans seem to be under the impression that Britain is a tiny country consisting of a few villages, each populated by about 20 people and a dog! I am afraid it isn't! OK. I am exaggerating slightly, but you know what I mean. Lancashire, for instance, is a very densely populated county, being heavily industrialised, with numerous cities and towns, including large major cities like Manchester and Liverpool. The population of the whole of Lancashire in 1878 would have been several millions. This is one of the things that drives we UK genealogists who try to help you folks slightly potty sometimes! I get requests from over there from people wanting me to find "my gt-gt-grandfather Joe Bloggs believed to have been born in Yorkshire, England". Yorkshire, on which I am something of an acknowledged expert, is a huge county (the largest in Britain) with a population today of around 6 million, and finding someone of a common surname with such a vague reference is near impossible, especially if the birth took place before 1837 and thus pre-civil registration. I should explain that in Britain counties are large administrative units, more like your states, not the small units that you call counties. Yorkshire, for instance, has a population roughly the size of that of Virginia, albeit packed into an area only about one-eighth of the size. I recognise that the problem was created by the US immigration officers, who in the last century were probably not terribly literate or knowledgeable people and "Lancashire, England" was probably sufficient address for them. This, of course, is why so many American surnames that came from Europe became hopelessly mangled when they got over there, because the immigration officers hadn't a clue how to spell them! However, surely someone in the family must know where in Lancashire your grandmother came from? She must have talked about her home town and her English roots at some time. On a more general note, I see Dr Bill is bemoaning the lack of activity on this list. I, too, have been disappointed in the apparent apathy since I joined. I have offered myself as an adviser on English genealogy, but so far nobody seems to want to ask me anything! Original message..... >>My most wanted is my grandmother Edith Cockayne. Date of birth is (probably) October 8, 1878, Lancashire England. All I know is that she came here with her family around 1886. She died in California in 1964. I have a lot of blanks to fill in.<< Roy Stockdill Editor, The Journal of One-Name Studies The Stockdill Family History Society (Guild of One-Name Studies, FedFHS) STOCKDILL PREST YELLOW BOLTON WORSNOP GIBSON MIDGLEY BRACEWELL SHACKLETON BRADLEY MOODY in Yorkshire North & West Ridings MEAD YOUNG in Somerset, Wiltshire & Gloucestershire Web page of the Stockdill Family History Society:- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roystock ”Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you. If he does not, why humiliate him?" - Canon Sydney Smith (scholar and humorist 1771-1845)

    09/22/2000 02:10:17
    1. [NEWGEN] Favorite url's
    2. sandarr
    3. Here are some sites I have found helpful. http://www.livgenmi.com/1895 This is a map site with states and counties. http://www.davidrumsey.com This is a map site of very old maps. http://www.hubat.com/old-index.html On this site put genealogy in the search box, and it will bring up a ton of sites, with a description of each site. http://www.primenet.com/~damiller/dam.htm#Hobbies This is a link site with all kinds of links. It is called Wall of Links. http://www.ancestrycorner.com On this site you can find free printout charts and an illness chart. The illness chart can be very handy. ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________

    09/22/2000 01:58:55
    1. [NEWGEN] Most wanted
    2. Evelyn F.Lehman
    3. Hi Listers, My first most wanted is my great grandmother living in Chicago between 1900 and 1920. She was Mary McDonald, widow of John. Also,widow of Andrew Coughlan/Coughlin and Patrick Keating. My second most wanted is any member of the John Reardon family living in Detroit, Wayne, MI in the 1930s. All were Irish-Catholics. Thank you.

    09/22/2000 01:39:46
    1. [NEWGEN] Surnames
    2. Lurie Twist
    3. I'm am searching for James TWIST family from Lancashire England.. James was born in 1853 and came to Philipsburg Pennsylvania sometime around 1880 James Hart MCCRANDLES family from Stirlingshire Scotland.. He was born in 1888 and came to Lowell Massachusetts around 1912.. Any help would be appreciated.. Lurie Twist North Florida

    09/22/2000 12:40:57
    1. [NEWGEN] My Most Wanted
    2. Sheryl Fitch
    3. John FLYNN... born in 1867 or 9 in Illinois. He married Ida Reynolds July 3, 1892 in Krebs, I.T. Oklahoma and they had two children: Early, b. 1894 and Pearly, b 1896. In 1898 he married my grandmother, Laura Susanne "Sussie" Miller in Vireton, I.T. They had three children: Jess "Bud", Buster and Ola. He died in 1909 and is buried in Nixon, Oklahoma. Sheryl

    09/22/2000 12:40:42
    1. [NEWGEN] Most-Wanted
    2. erichmond
    3. I have 2 most wanted MATEY HASKOVEC"old country" 1810-1864 m Ana Biska 2 known sons JOHN HASKOVEC AND JOESPH HASKOVEC they settled in IOWA ALEXANDER MCADOO 1840-1890 born in DONAGAL Ireland M MARGARET GRAHAM settled in Philadelphea

    09/22/2000 11:37:24
    1. [NEWGEN] Most Wanted!!
    2. My most wanted are....... My grandfather....Chester HENRY.... b. abt. 1881....d. 1957 in Ohio he married Molly Garcia in Tx. 11-11-1910. They had 3 children, Mildred, died at 2 yrs, John Henry, my father..born 10-27-1913 & Opal Henry... born 9-17-15. Chester & Molly divorced & he returned to Ohio. The wife of ....James W. HARPER..he was b. abt 1814... d. bfr 1870 he was in Metcalf Co, Ky on the 1860 census Paulo/Paul MAIORANO ....b. 8-15-1858 in Messina, Sicily d. 12-18-1933 In Houston, Tx. married Rosalie VENTRICE in NYC 7-20-1885 Thanks for any help. Gay

    09/22/2000 10:14:24
    1. [NEWGEN] Great Research Resources
    2. Bill Cribbs
    3. -- GREAT BOOKMARKS! ShipSearch http://www.obitcentral.com/shipsearch/ CemSearch http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/ ObitSearch http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/ Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/ Canadian Obit Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/canada.htm Thanks, Bill and Tina Cribbs HELP STOP BREAST CANCER!!! --

    09/22/2000 09:20:52
    1. Re: [NEWGEN] Now Hear This!
    2. Sandy
    3. Here is my few breaths of CPR. I hope it helps the patient turn pink again. My most wanted it the parents of John Barnes and Sarah Mangrum. John A. Barnes born 1794 NC. Sarah E. Mangrum born abt. 1794 NC. John Barnes and Sarah Mangrum were married 1814 Granville, NC and migrated to Williamson Co. TN between 1824 and 1839. I need all the help I can get and appreciate any little tip as to where to go next and better yet a connection. My favorite URL is the online LDS files at. http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchigi.asp My other favorites are: Searchable databases at Rootsweb http://searches.rootsweb.com/ Ancestory.com http://www.ancestry.com/main.htm The Genealogy Forum http://www.genealogyforum.com/ The US GenWeb Project which takes me to all the states http://www.usgenweb.org/ I hope this helps. I also want to say I'm sorry I haven't been participating lately but I have been very busy getting ready for my wedding Oct. 28th after 22 years of singlehood. I plan to be back and more active after this is all settled down and I have plenty of time becuase then I won't be working. Take care and I look forward to seeing some good URL's from this and some pink in the patient. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Bill <Bill@Dr-Fox.Com> To: <NEWGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:42 AM Subject: [NEWGEN] Now Hear This! > This list is beginning to lose its usefulness and therefore my efforts > to keep it alive. How about a little CPR from those who have > benefited from its existence in the past! Let's start with a MOST > WANTED posting! Let's follow that with MY MOST FAVORITE URL (Since we > all know Cyndi wins that hands down, we can perhaps list some others). > Next we will do MY FAVORITE LIST. Again since we know that NEWGEN is > the best will skip it. > This patient is turning blue, so if you don't want it to pass on, you > had better participate. > > Dr. Bill > Bill@Dr-Fox.Com > WebSite {http://www.dr-fox.com} > > > ==== NEWGEN Mailing List ==== > INVITE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS TO JOIN THE NEWGEN LIST > NEWGEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM (FOR LIST) > MEWGEN-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM (FOR DIGEST) > >

    09/22/2000 09:19:27
    1. [NEWGEN] O'KEANE > PA.>??????
    2. SLC
    3. My most wanted people....................... JOHN O'KEANE and FRANK O'KEANE both born in the early 1870s either in Pa or Ohio ....children of PATRICK O'KEANE and MARIA STAKEM both from Ireland....siblings of MARY ANN , MARGARET and WILLIAM JETTRUDE O'KEANE all lived in Rochester Pa, Beaver Co.....placed in St Pauls RC Orphanage Pittsburgh Pa, Allegheney Co. in June of 1880 when their mother died...Father remarried in 1882 died in 1884...Children placed back in Orphanage in 1884...have info on Mary Ann , Margaret and Wm Jettrude..no info on James or Frank....family story says they went to Chicago IL... SLC

    09/22/2000 09:07:59
    1. [NEWGEN] Most Wanted - KEYES/KEYS
    2. Joan Little
    3. Ok, I will start with one of my "Most Wanted." KEYES, John, dob & dod unk. m KIMBALL, Lucinda, dob & dod unk. Children: Eva Maria KEYES, b 24 Jan 1874, New Ipswich, Hillsboro, NH, date unk, Delbert HUDSON. Died 24 May 1949, Laconia, Belknap, NH Frank KEYES, dob unk, m Martha,,,,,,,,,, Information on these people would be more than great. Thanks. Joan

    09/22/2000 09:05:30
    1. Re: [NEWGEN] Now Hear This!
    2. Dorcas Moseley
    3. OK.......I'll jump in with my Most Wanted!!!!!!! The gang I am most interested in is the JOHANN VALENTIN FLEGLE family (with many different spellings, such as FLEGAL, FLEAGLE, etc.). Johann came to this country from Germany 'way back....his g-grandson was my g-grandfather, Gilbert W. FLEGAL, who resided in Clearfield County, PA. Another one is JOHN HENRY, also from Clearfield Co., PA. Any cousins out there???????? Dorcas "Dr. Bill" wrote: > This list is beginning to lose its usefulness and therefore my efforts > to keep it alive. How about a little CPR from those who have > benefited from its existence in the past! Let's start with a MOST > WANTED posting! Let's follow that with MY MOST FAVORITE URL (Since we > all know Cyndi wins that hands down, we can perhaps list some others). > Next we will do MY FAVORITE LIST. Again since we know that NEWGEN is > the best will skip it. > This patient is turning blue, so if you don't want it to pass on, you > had better participate. > > Dr. Bill > Bill@Dr-Fox.Com > WebSite {http://www.dr-fox.com} > > ==== NEWGEN Mailing List ==== > INVITE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS TO JOIN THE NEWGEN LIST > NEWGEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM (FOR LIST) > MEWGEN-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM (FOR DIGEST)

    09/22/2000 09:04:28
    1. Re: [NEWGEN] Now Hear This!
    2. Alrena McKinnon
    3. MOST WANTED FROM THIS FRONT: Winiferd (MCKIMSEY) (SOMMER(S)) (SMIGAJ)we have all of the last names attached to her, married to Allan J. MCKINNON from some where around MI, IL, WI Allan was born in Alpena, MI moved to Craig, CO some where between 1905-1907. Lawrence SOMMERS last known place Melrose Park, IL Harold C. BECKER last known place Kenoska, WI Any one who might know or be conected with any of these people we sure would like to hear from you. Thanks Alrena _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

    09/22/2000 08:46:12
    1. [NEWGEN] My Most Wanted
    2. Hi, My most wanted is my grandmother Edith Cockayne. Date of birth is (probably) October 8, 1878, Lancashire England. All I know is that she came here with her family around 1886. She died in California in 1964. I have a lot of blanks to fill in. Also, I'd just like to add that I really appreciate the help I've received from the people on this list, most recently Woody, who helped me with some downloaded files. Sheila G shegrim@aol.com

    09/22/2000 08:23:54