Hello, Wanted to let those who helped me get the address in Little Rock, Arkansas that the Grand Lodge burned in 1919 and all records were lost. Got their letter in the mail with that information. So I can't find information on my great grandfather there as a Mason. Will have to see if he is mentioned in an obit in Polk County, Arkansas in the near future. Maybe that will list Lodge number etc. Thanks, Kathy

SALLY/SARAH, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?" by Michael John Neill ============================================================ When two people have the same (or similar) names, or one person has multiple names, it can create big problems for genealogists. Records on individuals with the same name need to be "sorted" out into their separate identities, while individuals who used different names may have to be "merged" together to create one identity despite the varying names. The separating or merging is not always an easy process, and sometimes it is downright impossible. Incomplete or hasty research can aggravate the situation. Jumping to conclusions too early and holding on to them for too long may only add to the confusion. To help with these frustrating occurrences, today's article centers on difficulties caused by individuals with similar names. MAKING ASSUMPTIONS: A CASE STUDY Philip Smith and Sarah Kile were living as husband and wife in Mercer County, Illinois in the 1870 and 1880 census. This family was the focus of our research. Sarah's children's marriage and death records had consistently listed her maiden name as Kile. But the consistency of secondary sources, while comforting, did not guarantee their accuracy. However, Sarah was listed as Archibald Kile's daughter in a late-1800s Mercer County, Illinois court case. The maiden name seemed fairly solid. A search of the online Illinois Marriage Index located no marriage between Philip Smith and Sarah Kile. However, there was a marriage between a Sarah McIntosh and a Philip Smith on 3 May 1860. Another search of Kile marriages for females turned up an 1858 marriage for a Peter McLain and a Sally Kile. After finding these online records, I made the connection that Sarah and Sally were one in the same. After all, Sally was a well-known nickname for Sarah. Peter must have had died shortly after the couple's 1858 marriage, and Sarah must have married again. The nickname situation would explain the ladies' first name difference, and the original record was probably just misread so that McLain was mistakenly recorded as McIntosh. The scenario seemed clear, based on these assumptions! (Genealogy Guardian Angel advice: Look at the actual, original marriage records before making a conclusion like that.) NEXT STOP: CENSUS! I located an entry for Peter McLain and Sarah L. McLain in a published 1860 Mercer County, Illinois census. But the published source did not include the actual date the census was taken, and I was still holding strong to my theory. However, listed in the household were an Elizabeth Kile and a William Kile. The 1860 census does not give relationships to heads of household. Sarah, the wife of Philip Smith, was the daughter of Archibald Kile. My theory was starting to unravel slightly, but perhaps the older Kiles were Sarah McLain's aunt and uncle. (Genealogy Guardian Advice: Be certain you aren't trying to make the records fit the theory instead of making the theory fit the records.) I needed the original census to doublecheck the information and determine the date the census was taken. While I was waiting for that, a quick look at my copy of The Sources indicated that the 1860 census began on 1 June 1860. Philip Smith married Sarah McIntosh on 3 May 1860. This was starting to shoot holes in my theory. ON TO 1870 . . . There's Peter McLain STILL living with Sally! My theory is now bust, as Philip Smith and his Sarah had several children by this time. It is back to the drawing board. Back to the marriages (more thoroughly this time . . .) A search in the online Illinois State Marriage Index for brides under the surname "Kyle" located a marriage between a John McIntosh and a Sarah Kyle in September of 1852 in Mercer County, Illinois. This information led to a new working hypothesis, which was as follows: Sarah Kile married John McIntosh in 1852. This marriage was terminated (either by John's death or by a judge). Sarah McIntosh married Philip Smith in 1860. Sally Kile, who married Peter McLain, was likely a relative of Sarah Kile, who is known to have married Philip Smith. Sarah Kile (McIntosh?) Smith and Sarah Kile McLain are likely related, possibly cousins. A look at Philip Smith and Sarah McIntosh's marriage license lists her as "Mrs. Sarah McIntosh" with a mark on the Mrs. (it's not clear if the mark is intending to strike out the Mrs. or not). This "Mrs." notation is not indicated in the online marriage index and is a considerable clue. There's still plenty of work to be done: a COMPLETE analysis of census and other records, and an attempt to find out what happened to John McIntosh. LESSONS LEARNED: 1) Nicknames should not always be an "excuse" to automatically "combine" two individuals. 2) Consider alternate spellings. 3) Do not jump to conclusions. 4) Research with the goal of finding out as much of the truth as you can--not with the intent of proving your initial hunch correct. 5) Continue to analyze all information as new information is located. COMMENTS ON THIS RESEARCH "TECHNIQUE" 1) Sally was frequently used as a nickname for Sarah. 2) McIntosh and McLain being considered the "same" without any evidence to back it up was a stretch (and a very long one at that). 3) At least the research continued and the researcher finally admitted that the initial theory was not correct. FINAL NOTE When I was just starting my research, I hired an individual to look for an ancestral marriage record. The individual found a man with the correct surname and a woman with the correct surname, but the date he found was not the same as the marriage date I had provided. I received a copy of this couple's license with the comment (paraphrased), "Nicknames were common in early days, and people weren't always certain anyway. Likely your date is off. Here's the copy." It was only some years later, when I researched the records myself, that I discovered my ancestors' marriage record was there--with the date and the names I had given the researcher. My ancestor and his brother had married sisters, and I was originally sent the record for their siblings. ___________________________________________________________________ Michael John Neill, is the Course I Coordinator at the Genealogical Institute of Mid America (GIMA) held annually in Springfield, Illinois, and is also on the faculty of Carl Sandburg College in Galesburg, Illinois. Michael is the Web columnist for the "FGS FORUM" and is on the editorial board of the "Illinois State Genealogical Society Quarterly." He conducts seminars and lectures on a wide variety of genealogical and computer topics and contributes to several genealogical publications, including "Ancestry" Magazine and "Genealogical Computing." You can e-mail him at: mailto:mneill@asc.csc.cc.il.us or visit his Web site at: http://www.rootdig.com/ Copyright 2000, MyFamily.com. All rights reserved. ============================================================ printed with permission of Juliana Smith, Editor of Ancestry Daily News

Some of you might be interested in this site. Joanne http://www.ancientfaces.com/cgi-bin/index.cfm

> TO YOUR NEW CYBER FAMILY AT NEWGEN ! ! ! ! ! > > RECOMMEND NEWGEN TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS ! ! ! ! ! > > Dr. Bills' site has been given an award for being one of the most helpful genealogy sites on the internet........ > > > * You will find everyone here is extremely helpful. Don't be afraid to ask what you may consider a 'dumb' question. There is NO question that is 'dumb'. If you need help with your computer or a program ask that too! Remember, the only 'dumb' question is the one you don't ask. We all benefit from your questions. ! ! ! > > * Should you need a Mentor, someone to help guide you, please let Dr. Bill know and we will find a Mentor for you. We have wonderful, knowledgeable and caring people that are more than willing to help. All you need to do is ask! > > * If you in turn feel you can help someone is a specific region let Dr. Bill know or better yet, post it to the list..... We are here to help each other. > > * Be sure to post a message to the list giving the surnames you are searching. Type the surname only in caps, i.e. John BROWN. It is much easier to pick out the surname when it is in caps and those who skim will see it more readily. If you don't post your surnames, no one will know who you are searching, therefore no one can help you. > > * Every Monday night at 8:00 P< EDST we meet in our own personal 'stress free' genealogy chat room provided so generously by Dr. Bill. Bring all your genealogy questions with you. This is where we really help each other........ meet new friends and just have a good time...... > > ***********Directions to our Chat Room.... > Go to..... www.dr-fox.com > X on Chat in side panel > X on BOTTOM chat room (this is our PRIVATE > room) > After you enter the Chat Room at the top of > the page is the word 'default'. Clear that out > and enter your name then hit enter. Your > name will now show in the chat area. > > * Dr. Bill has so much interesting information on his site. > www.dr-fox-com. You should really go entirely through it and > see what information you can use. > One of the fun things he has is 'Name That Tune'....... > Dr. Bill puts up a tune and the first person to guess it gets His/Her name up in lights. Not.... He/She gets their > name listed as being the first person to Name That Tune! > It really is a thrill to see your name on the winners page. > Try it and let me know how good it feels! This is > strictly a FUN thing to do. > > * The Links page has some really good information on it. > Be sure and check it out! > > * While at Dr. Bills' site be sure and look at the Members > Page. There is a wealth of information there for you. > Our Members are more than willing to do a look up for > you. Check them out and see if the area you are > searching is listed by someone. If it is contact them. > > * Another Dr. Bill attraction is the Soap Box. We get a > chance to express our opinions on most any subject. > There have been some pretty good pages there! Any > subject is fair game. > > * Should you have a prayer concern, we here at > NEWGEN would like to pray with you or for you. Let > the list know of your prayer concern and we will take > it from there. > > * Please don't send attachments to the list. The HTML > messes up NEWGEN at Rootsweb and can't go through. > It WILL be returned to you. > > * Dr. Bill will send a post concerning new virus reports > AFTER he has validated the virus. The virus will NOT > be discussed on the list. He will do this to make us > aware. > > * Subing.....NEWGEN-L-Request@Rootsweb.com (list) > * NEWGEN-D-Request@Rootsweb.com (digest) > *Unsubing.....Same as above address to unsubscribe > > * Dr. Bill and everyone here at NEWGEN welcomes you > and we know your stay will be enjoyable, productive > and interesting......... > > * You may want to print this message for your future > reference. > > Bunny > > > > ==== NEWGEN Mailing List ==== > NO BIT OF INFORMATION OR TIP IS MINOR WHEN IT CAN LEAD TO A MAJOR FIND. >

> TO YOUR NEW CYBER FAMILY AT NEWGEN ! ! ! ! ! > > RECOMMEND NEWGEN TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS ! ! ! ! ! > > Dr. Bills' site has been given an award for being one of the most helpful genealogy sites on the internet........ > > > * You will find everyone here is extremely helpful. Don't be afraid to ask what you may consider a 'dumb' question. There is NO question that is 'dumb'. If you need help with your computer or a program ask that too! Remember, the only 'dumb' question is the one you don't ask. We all benefit from your questions. ! ! ! > > * Should you need a Mentor, someone to help guide you, please let Dr. Bill know and we will find a Mentor for you. We have wonderful, knowledgeable and caring people that are more than willing to help. All you need to do is ask! > > * If you in turn feel you can help someone is a specific region let Dr. Bill know or better yet, post it to the list..... We are here to help each other. > > * Be sure to post a message to the list giving the surnames you are searching. Type the surname only in caps, i.e. John BROWN. It is much easier to pick out the surname when it is in caps and those who skim will see it more readily. If you don't post your surnames, no one will know who you are searching, therefore no one can help you. > > * Every Monday night at 8:00 P< EDST we meet in our own personal 'stress free' genealogy chat room provided so generously by Dr. Bill. Bring all your genealogy questions with you. This is where we really help each other........ meet new friends and just have a good time...... > > ***********Directions to our Chat Room.... > Go to..... www.dr-fox.com > X on Chat in side panel > X on BOTTOM chat room (this is our PRIVATE > room) > After you enter the Chat Room at the top of > the page is the word 'default'. Clear that out > and enter your name then hit enter. Your > name will now show in the chat area. > > * Dr. Bill has so much interesting information on his site. > www.dr-fox-com. You should really go entirely through it and > see what information you can use. > One of the fun things he has is 'Name That Tune'....... > Dr. Bill puts up a tune and the first person to guess it gets His/Her name up in lights. Not.... He/She gets their > name listed as being the first person to Name That Tune! > It really is a thrill to see your name on the winners page. > Try it and let me know how good it feels! This is > strictly a FUN thing to do. > > * The Links page has some really good information on it. > Be sure and check it out! > > * While at Dr. Bills' site be sure and look at the Members > Page. There is a wealth of information there for you. > Our Members are more than willing to do a look up for > you. Check them out and see if the area you are > searching is listed by someone. If it is contact them. > > * Another Dr. Bill attraction is the Soap Box. We get a > chance to express our opinions on most any subject. > There have been some pretty good pages there! Any > subject is fair game. > > * Should you have a prayer concern, we here at > NEWGEN would like to pray with you or for you. Let > the list know of your prayer concern and we will take > it from there. > > * Please don't send attachments to the list. The HTML > messes up NEWGEN at Rootsweb and can't go through. > It WILL be returned to you. > > * Dr. Bill will send a post concerning new virus reports > AFTER he has validated the virus. The virus will NOT > be discussed on the list. He will do this to make us > aware. > > * Subing.....NEWGEN-L-Request@Rootsweb.com (list) > * NEWGEN-D-Request@Rootsweb.com (digest) > *Unsubing.....Same as above address to unsubscribe > > * Dr. Bill and everyone here at NEWGEN welcomes you > and we know your stay will be enjoyable, productive > and interesting......... > > * You may want to print this message for your future > reference. > > Bunny > > > > ==== NEWGEN Mailing List ==== > NO BIT OF INFORMATION OR TIP IS MINOR WHEN IT CAN LEAD TO A MAJOR FIND. >

All those Foxy Ones..... Meet me in our own private and 'stress free' chat room tonight at 8:00 PM EDST. We will meet in Dr. Bill's room. Once you get into the chat room, go to the top where it says main..... from the drop down window go to the genealogy chat room. Go to the name..... take out default and type your name there, hit the enter button and your name will show.... See you at 8:00 PM EDST....... Bunny

A Mother's Brownie Recipe Remove teddy bear from oven and tell your child, "No, No." Preheat oven to 375. Melt 1 cup margarine in saucepan. Add margarine to 2 cups of sugar. Take shortening can away from child and clean cupboards. Measure 1/3 cup cocoa. Take shortening can away from child again and bathe cat. Apply antiseptic and bandages to scratches sustained while removing shortening from cat's tail. Assemble 4 eggs, 2 tsp. vanilla, and 1-1/2 cups sifted flour. Take smoldering teddy bear from oven and open all doors and open windows for ventilation. Take telephone away from child and assure party on the line the call was a mistake. Call operator and attempt to have direct dialed call removed from bill. Measure 1 tsp. salt, 1/2 cup nuts and beat all ingredients well. Let cat out of refrigerator. Pour mixture into well-greased 9x13-inch pan. Bake 25 minutes. Rescue cat and take razor away from child. Explain to kids that you have no idea if shaved cats will sunburn. Throw cat outside while there's still time and he's still able to run away. Frosting: Mix the following in saucepan: 1 cup sugar 1 oz unsweetened chocolate 1/4 cup margarine Take the darn teddy bear out of the @#$% broiler and throw it away -- far away. Answer the door and meekly explain to the nice policeman that you didn't know your child had slipped out of the house and was heading for the street. Put child in playpen. Add 1/3 cup milk, dash of salt, and boil, stirring constantly for 2 minutes. Answer door and apologize to neighbor for your child having stuck a garden hose in man's front door mail slot. Promise to pay for ruined carpet. Tie child to clothesline. Remove burned brownies from oven. [Yields serving for 6, whether they like it or not!]

Here is a site I found while searching for something else. I thought some of you might find this interesting and helpful. It's called "Find a Grave". You can search by state or name. I hope it helps someone. Sandy http://www.findagrave.com/pictures/1360.html

Bill@Dr-Fox.Com WebSite {http://www.dr-fox.com} ----- Original Message ----- From: <BKAYMEL@aol.com> To: <GIBSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:40 PM Subject: [GIBSON-L] TN Cemetaries List : PLEASE SHARE THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE WITH OTHER SURNAME LISTS THAT MAY HAVE : ANCESTORS BURIED IN TN. : : I have started a new mailing list called : TN-Cemeteries. It is a mailing list for anyone interested in locating, : and preserving historical information about, Tennessee cemeteries or : sharing information about them. : : To subscribe to this list - have your members send the word subscribe to : : TN-Cemeteries-L-request@rootsweb.com or : TN-Cemeteries-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest form. : : I look forward to helping this list grow and become another tool for : those researching in Tennessee. : : Kathleen Burnett : List Mom

All the Foxy Volunteers....... A short time ago I sent out a request for Mentors....... Would you believe I had to change to IE, could in no way access Communicator, and lost all the names.... Would those of you who so graciously volunteered PLEASE contact me again...... those of you who didn't still have time to get on the FOXY BAND WAGON OF VOLUNTEERS, I am extending the time an additional week..... Thanks...... Bunny

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ for free download. http://www.liveupdate.com/ for free download of midi player. Bill@Dr-Fox.Com WebSite {http://www.dr-fox.com}

I'm THINKING!!! I'm THINKING!!! :-) I think Dr. Bill outdid himself this time...some of these are tough! Joanne Subject: [NEWGEN] NAME THAT TUNE > Fellow List Members, > > What is happening? Why isn't everyone playing Name That Tune and the contest > with the jukebox tunes? If we don't participate, Dr. Bill just might become > so discouraged that he will give up both the website and the mailing list! > We MUST participate for Dr. Bill's sake and our own! It's fun. I am going > to beat all of you on the Jukebox contest! PLEASE! Dr. Bill has been our > friend and our guide for ages; let's not let him down now! If I must get out > my broom and come looking for all of you, I WILL! <grin> Come on! Let's > ALL participate. This is a wonderful list and an extremely helpful website. > We can't afford to lose either of them! Where are all of you? > > Barbara Vanzant > > > ==== NEWGEN Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET TO USE THE WORDS "THANK YOU" WHEN SOMEONE HAS DONE > YOU A FAVOR....ALSO WHEN SOMEONE HAS TRIED TO BE HELPFUL. > >

I didn't get very far either. \ Sheila G shegrim@aol.com

--part1_3b.a9f8912.2709072e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have trouble hearing the music...some weeks it works & then again not. Wanted to d/l MSIE again but didn't see where to do it. Any help?? Thanks Gay --part1_3b.a9f8912.2709072e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <NEWGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Sun, 01 Oct 2000 17:03:56 -0400 Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Sun, 01 Oct 2000 17:03:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e91L2fC25170; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 14:02:41 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 14:02:41 -0700 X-Original-Sender: Lorlauvan@aol.com Sun Oct 1 14:02:41 2000 From: Lorlauvan@aol.com Message-ID: <9f.b5a047c.27090069@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 17:02:33 EDT Old-To: NEWGEN-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 119 Subject: [NEWGEN] NAME THAT TUNE Resent-Message-ID: <pNg5q.A.GJG.xZ615@lists6.rootsweb.com> To: NEWGEN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NEWGEN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NEWGEN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/23728 X-Loop: NEWGEN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NEWGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com Fellow List Members, What is happening? Why isn't everyone playing Name That Tune and the contest with the jukebox tunes? If we don't participate, Dr. Bill just might become so discouraged that he will give up both the website and the mailing list! We MUST participate for Dr. Bill's sake and our own! It's fun. I am going to beat all of you on the Jukebox contest! PLEASE! Dr. Bill has been our friend and our guide for ages; let's not let him down now! If I must get out my broom and come looking for all of you, I WILL! <grin> Come on! Let's ALL participate. This is a wonderful list and an extremely helpful website. We can't afford to lose either of them! Where are all of you? Barbara Vanzant ==== NEWGEN Mailing List ==== DON'T FORGET TO USE THE WORDS "THANK YOU" WHEN SOMEONE HAS DONE YOU A FAVOR....ALSO WHEN SOMEONE HAS TRIED TO BE HELPFUL. --part1_3b.a9f8912.2709072e_boundary--

Fellow List Members, What is happening? Why isn't everyone playing Name That Tune and the contest with the jukebox tunes? If we don't participate, Dr. Bill just might become so discouraged that he will give up both the website and the mailing list! We MUST participate for Dr. Bill's sake and our own! It's fun. I am going to beat all of you on the Jukebox contest! PLEASE! Dr. Bill has been our friend and our guide for ages; let's not let him down now! If I must get out my broom and come looking for all of you, I WILL! <grin> Come on! Let's ALL participate. This is a wonderful list and an extremely helpful website. We can't afford to lose either of them! Where are all of you? Barbara Vanzant

Had to change Juke Box song #4 which was defective. Have new one, also a ladies name. Come on gang, don't have many participants in the contest yet....Name those tunes and become our Guest Musical Director for a week. Bill@Dr-Fox.Com WebSite {http://www.dr-fox.com}

In a message dated 10/01/2000 2:39:11 AM US Mountain Standard Time, roystock@compuserve.com writes: << "Daniell Booth and Ailice his wife, vagrantes (sic, as spelt), bur'd ye 25th of December." "Jeremiah Sleddin, son of ye said Ailice, buried ye same day." "John, Dorothy and Sarah, children of the saide Daniell Booth. All Six perished and were buried ye 25th of December." >> What a tragedy this must have been. If they starved or died from the cold, did no one else care? Or were others in a similar situation? It is very sad that human beings have had to suffer such pain and misery. If we can feel for those who have suffered in this manner, we must still be human beings too. I, too, wonder what the answers are in a situation where a family perished.

SOMETIMES I feel we family historians can get a bit too blase in our discoveries. I feel sure many of you, like me, must on occasions have noted down some sparse details from an old document such as a parish register and wondered at the real human drama and tragedy that lay behind the event so barely described. I was at the Society of Genealogists Library in London yesterday, combing through the printed parish registers of Kirkby Malham, a village in the Yorkshire Dales where I had many ancestors, when I came across this very sad series of successive entries in the burial registers for Christmas Day in the year 1676..... "Daniell Booth and Ailice his wife, vagrantes (sic, as spelt), bur'd ye 25th of December." "Jeremiah Sleddin, son of ye said Ailice, buried ye same day." "John, Dorothy and Sarah, children of the saide Daniell Booth. All Six perished and were buried ye 25th of December." Although they were nothing to do with me, I could not resist writing down these entries and wondering at the awesome tragedy of it all - an entire family of six, father, mother and four children, apparently vagrants (gipsies?), wiped out and all buried together on Christmas Day 1676. What could have caused this awful business? There is no further explanation, no description of what lay behind the one word "Perished". Clearly, they all died together on or just before Christmas Day in some incident, but did they die in an accident or of disease, did they all drown, or were they frozen to death in a particularly cruel winter? There are other burial entries around the date but no special note to suggest there was an epidemic of any kind in the parish at that time. You might have thought the vicar would have given a few words of explanation for such a tragedy, wouldn't you? Or being vagrants, perhaps they were not thought of any consequence. Since I posted this on the Yorkshire list, a friend of mine has discovered from a book of old agricultural records that in the winter of 1676 wheat prices were high and there was dense fog in October, followed by heavy snow from December 10th onwards. Thus, my speculation is that this poor family all died from a combination of starvation, exposure to the cold, as they were obviously homeless, and hypothermia. I expect some of you are wondering, where was the Poor Law Relief system? I should explain that an Act in 1662 - the Act of Settlement - set out the ways in which a poor person could claim to be legally settled. Anyone entering a parish to occupy a property worth less than £10 could be challenged by the Overseers of the Poor and asked to supply some kind of indemnity against becoming chargeable to the parish. Those who could prove a right to settlement in a particular parish were given Settlement Certificates (these, of course, can be very valuable documents in family history) and under the Act they could be removed by the Justices of the Peace and Constables back to the parish for which their certificates of legal settlement applied. A vagrant family might well have been unable to obtain Settlement Certificates for anywhere, thus they would be simply moved on from one parish to the next, as none wanted to take financial responsibility for them. Times were hard then!!! Roy Stockdill Editor, The Journal of One-Name Studies The Stockdill Family History Society Web page:- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roystock ”Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you. If he does not, why humiliate him?" - Canon Sydney Smith (scholar and humorist 1771-1845)

http://www.local.ie/general/genealogy/history/famine.shtml

Hi all, As you all know, obits may contain quite a bit of information in one tiny package. Sometimes an obit can contain the one tiny hint that will help you find a "brickwall" relationship. For this reason, it's not just sufficient to look for an obit for a particular person, but to search for your surnames through fulltext obituaries as well. Perhaps you won't find the obit for the person that you're looking for but you may find an obit for someone ELSE who has a survivor with the same surname that gives you the answers that you need. Look for all the clues you can find! That's why I'm building the Obituary Archive Search Engine at http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/ Check it out, especially the menu item "Local Obit Searches". If you've never been there, you're in for a treat! Other tools are listed below. ShipSearch http://www.obitcentral.com/shipsearch/ CemSearch http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/ ObitSearch http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/ Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/ Canadian Obit Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/canada.htm Thanks, Bill and Tina Cribbs HELP STOP BREAST CANCER!!!