Hello Gerry, To learn where the battalion was located on certain dates and what they were doing, you can read the war diaries for them: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020152_e.html Of course, you can always request his military records from Ottawa, but while overseas, they usually generally state 'in the field' France. Diana Tibert Milford, NS Gerry MF wrote: >An ancestor, Russell Fullerton enlisted in the Military on the 4th February 1916 with the 115th battalion in Saint John, N.B. He had previously served for one year in the 74th. Where can I obtain information on when and where he served with the 74th ? > >Gerry MF > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Diana: Thanks, but I understand that they just have information on Battalions which served during the First WW and not prior. Gerry MF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Lynn Tibert" <tibert@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Cc: "NewBrunswick-L" <NewBrunswick-L@rootsweb.com>; <nsroots@ednet.ns.ca> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] 115 Battalion > Hello Gerry, > > To learn where the battalion was located on certain dates and what they > were doing, you can read the war diaries for them: > http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020152_e.html > > Of course, you can always request his military records from Ottawa, but > while overseas, they usually generally state 'in the field' France. > > Diana Tibert > Milford, NS > > Gerry MF wrote: > > >An ancestor, Russell Fullerton enlisted in the Military on the 4th February 1916 with the 115th battalion in Saint John, N.B. He had previously served for one year in the 74th. Where can I obtain information on when and where he served with the 74th ? > > > >Gerry MF > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Gerry, I misunderstood, I thought you meant he served in the 74th during the year before 1916, which would have still been during the war. But again, I don't know if the war diaries cover here in Canada. I only searched them for dates overseas. Here is an excellent site I have referred to on several occasions: http://www.regiments.org/about/index.htm It has a large amount of information on many wars and regiments. Maybe you'll be able to find something there. I don't think the 74th Infantry Battalion was given another name (such as 55th Infantry Battalion: New Brunswick / P.E.I. Battalion or 85th Infantry Battalion: Nova Scotia Highlanders). At least I don't have a record of it. Diana Gerry MF wrote: >Diana: Thanks, but I understand that they just have information on >Battalions which served during the First WW and not prior. > >Gerry MF > > > > >

Glad to help if I can. Looks like you misunderstood my message. The 74th. was a Militia Regiment. It was not regular army, which is what the war diaries covered. Records of militia before 1915 are sporadic and cover probably only muster rolls and payrolls. After 1915, they began keeping better records, but even so, there isn't a lot. Bill Diana Lynn Tibert wrote: > Hello Gerry, > > I misunderstood, I thought you meant he served in the 74th during the > year before 1916, which would have still been during the war. > > But again, I don't know if the war diaries cover here in Canada. I only > searched them for dates overseas. > > Here is an excellent site I have referred to on several occasions: > http://www.regiments.org/about/index.htm > > It has a large amount of information on many wars and regiments. Maybe > you'll be able to find something there. > > I don't think the 74th Infantry Battalion was given another name (such > as 55th Infantry Battalion: New Brunswick / P.E.I. Battalion or 85th > Infantry Battalion: Nova Scotia Highlanders). At least I don't have a > record of it. > > Diana > > > > Gerry MF wrote: > > >>Diana: Thanks, but I understand that they just have information on >>Battalions which served during the First WW and not prior. >> >>Gerry MF >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Bill, Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know that the 74th was a Militia Regiment. I haven't read a lot about different regiments in the First W. War, but am familiar with the more commons ones, like the 85th and 106th. At the moment, I am just trying to get a handle on the regiments of the Second W. War, where they served and which ones dissolved once they reached England. I do not have a military background, so started with an 'empty war history bucket' when I began the research on the veterans. Because my father didn't want to talk about what happened while he was overseas, we were not allowed to watch war movies or documentaries or discuss war like things. My only lessons were at school and now I know they were very poor. We learned nothing about the Canadians in any war expect for the War of 1812. Diana Bill Tufts wrote: >Glad to help if I can. > >Looks like you misunderstood my message. The 74th. was a Militia >Regiment. It was not regular army, which is what the war diaries >covered. Records of militia before 1915 are sporadic and cover >probably only muster rolls and payrolls. After 1915, they began >keeping better records, but even so, there isn't a lot. > >Bill > > > > >

Hi Gerry & Diana, Diana, the website you have given is a wonderful site for units that served overseas, but there's nothing there for what Gerry is asking. Gerry, your Russell Fullerton joined the Saint John Fusiliers (115 Bn.) when he signed on for overseas service but, like a lot of men, he had first served in the Active Militia at home. I believe the 74th. Regiment was in Saint John. The site Diana gives should have something for the 115th, but not the 74th. The National Archives doesn't have much on Militias before 1915 and not a whole lot after, either. They do have some payroll and muster lists of various militias. I called LAC today and was told there are a handful of onsite reference books that give brief descriptions of some Regiments, so a search would be hit and miss. What I didn't know is that you can get on the collectionscanada sit, go to Can. Gene. Centre, click on "Topic" & then go to "Military" where you will find what holdings they do have. Or, you can get there through google. I would think ordering instructions are there. From my own obsevation, a Battalion was for overseas service while a Regiment was usually home based. Regiments were combined to form battalions as needed. I looked up your family on the census, but couldn't find them in 1911. Any idea where they were? Saint John? They were in Harvey in 1901. Diana is right about the war diaries in that, while in France, they didn't usually state exactly where they were. I have wondered if this was in case they fell into the enemy's hands. This type of information shows troop movements and strength of the unit. The same mostly holds true in their own medical files. PERSONNEL FILES: The Attestation Papers are in the soldiers' personal files. Also included could be a lot of other information. The Canadians' experience before the battle of Vimy Ridge was frequently one of being shipped from camp to camp in England and transferred from one Reserve Battalion to another. However, if someone in France was wounded, there might be an entry that he was sent to Field Ambulance Station 3 (for example) and from there to a hospital in France and then evacuated to a hospital in England when his health was stable. All Allied countries had their own hospital in the Boulogne area, which was close to the usual debarkation port of Calais. Other information in the man's personal file may show date and place of debarkation (usually Halifax), name of ship, arrival date at (usually) Liverpool and payroll slips. Often, the men automatically had $20 per month sent to mom or wife. The remaining $12-13 was all they needed in England for recreation and to pay for Sat. night booze, or Sunday morning church. Usually, a discharge certificate (date and place) is included in the file. These files may be searched onsite at LAC, but must be ordered the day before. For a price, they will photocopy everything and mail the package to you, but there is a long wait (old story of reduced staff and increased demand). I do professional research, including searching these records and in my reports, I try to decipher all the abbrevs. they use and even though I've done hundreds of them, I still get stuck once in a while. WAR DIARIES: We've just remembered the battle at Vimy Ridge in 1917. Little known is that there was a large night assault on the night of Feb 28-March 1. The Canadians went up the hill at 3:00 a.m. in a surprise attack, but the surprise was on them. The Germans had left microphones behind in the caves when they had retreated and knew the plans. A pre-attack party had laid bath mats over the barbed wire and at 3 minutes before 3:00 am, the Germans began firing flares at 3 minute intervals and had machine guns trained on the bath mats. The carnage was awful, but the attack was deemed a success because Allied Command now had an idea where the Germans were the weakest, which was useful when planning the now famous attack in April. The regiment usually spent a week at the front and then marched back to caves at the rear for some R&R before returning to the front trenches. The caves were given (usually) British placenames & were used as the reference in the diaries, rather than exact locations or coordinates. (These are the caves that have been used in TV documentaries showing how they lived and where they carved the Maple Leaf into the chalk walls of the caves.) This information is all provided in the war diaries. At the end, the number of casualties would be given and if an officer was wounded or killed, his name will appear in these diaries. Bill Diana Lynn Tibert wrote: > Hello Gerry, > > To learn where the battalion was located on certain dates and what they > were doing, you can read the war diaries for them: > http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020152_e.html > > Of course, you can always request his military records from Ottawa, but > while overseas, they usually generally state 'in the field' France. > > Diana Tibert > Milford, NS > > Gerry MF wrote: > > >>An ancestor, Russell Fullerton enlisted in the Military on the 4th February 1916 with the 115th battalion in Saint John, N.B. He had previously served for one year in the 74th. Where can I obtain information on when and where he served with the 74th ? >> >>Gerry MF >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >