Hi Bill, and List, That was amusing ! :o) When I was a very young girl in Winchester, MA, my father moved us into his grandmother's farmhouse. "Grandma KIDDER" had inherited the large HUTCHINSON Farm about 15 years before, and we moved in with her. I have memories of her sitting by the window in the large, farmhouse-type kitchen. But, I have no memories of "Grandpa KIDDER" and I don't remember anyone ever speaking of him. Grandma died in the 1960's - long before I began my genealogy hobby, so I couldn't ask her. My KIDDER great-uncle only said that his father had returned to his home-town in Princeton, Maine. For several reasons I decided that I was going to find out more about "Grandpa." About 15 years ago I started writing letters and asking more questions. It turned out that Grandpa abandoned his family (when 3 kids were school age) to return to Maine. Then I found out that he had signs of a "mental illness" - caused by "being a religious fanatic." (happened in those times). More investigating showed that he spent the last 5 years of his life at -- Bangor State Hospital ! He was there for a serious heart condition, and "mental health issues." I found out that his daughter and youngest son had to drive from Winchester, MA, to Princeton, ME, to get him admitted to the hospital ! * George "Sanford" KIDDER (born 1870 in Maine) died there in 1943 - before I was born. (For whatever reason, "Grandma" brought "Grandpa" back to Winchester to be buried in her family's plot.) To include this in New Brunswick history. "Grandpa KIDDER" was the great-grandson of Calvin KIDDER (1765-1799 who arrived in New Brunswick in 1784. Calvin married there in 1798 but was killed in a boating accident in 1799. His widow remarried to Ambrose BATES and they had many children. So, the only child of Calvin, Joseph "Calvin" KIDDER, had many step-siblings. Also, regarding how large my family-tree is .. I'm more interested in the "how's, why's and wherefor's." And, for the KIDDER's, HUTCHINSON's, MOORE's, CROSBY's, RICE,'s etc., I can trace them back to the early 1600's in the MA Bay Colony. And, maybe a few years before that back in England, if I'm lucky. But, for the "British Home Children" great-grandparents, I can only go back to 1800 in England, and for the other set of great-grandparents, I can only go back to about 1790 in Ireland. And, I don't even know who another set of great-grandparents were ! I can only have an "educated guess" that the Adoptive parents of my grandmother were her grandparents, and their (only) adult married daughter was the birth-mother. And, unless a "real miracle" happens, I will never know who the birth-father of my grandmother was. Thus, one of my great-grandfather's will be forever --- un-named ! (If my "educated guess" is correct, this grandmother can (reportedly) be traced back to -- the "Mayflower." - on her birth-mother's side.) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) * When their father left them, the 3 kids were - not healthy. The oldest, the daughter, had been in a sledding accident and lost partial sight of her eyes, and was pregnant at Age 16 or 17. The second was a son who became a "troubled teen." The third was hit by a truck at Age 9 and lost an entire leg as a result of the accident. So, when Clarissa and Clinton drove to Maine to get their father to a hospital, she had "sight problems," and he was driving with an "artificial leg." FYI: Many researchers are still looking for the parents of Calvin KIDDER's widow, born Mary GREENLAW. If they married in N.B, but lived along the N.B. / ME coast, she could have been born in either places. New List created on Feb. 1: CAN-USA-MIGRATION For Genealogy researchers, please remember to check the archives of the Lists & Boards for both your surnames and place-names.