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    1. Re: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff"
    2. Don Ondracek
    3. Pardon Me for Budding In - If you are not willing to share your information with others, whoever they may be, please just do not communicate with others. Remain self-centered, hide your information. What good will it be after you are gone. I do not believe God meant for us to do for ourselves and the dickens with the rest, if they want it they can pitch for themselves. Genealogy is searching and researching the past, enjoy what you are doing, but also rejoice in sharing with others. Most will appreciate your hard work. Dondra -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wanda Powell Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM To: 'Tammy Brazeau'; newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff" When you give out information or put it out for anyone to copy there is nothing you can do. Look at roots web and just put in a name you'll see the same thing if one person made and era you'll find 50 or so people made the same. One of our lines there is a lady who read the same books as I did and has the same information she asked to be notified or give her credit for the information she has on line, I read the same books and received the same information which took 10 years to break through that steel wall but mine isn't on line noir did I copy hers. Ask who ever to give you credit or forget about it or stop putting it on line. Yes it is very irritating but it happens. -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Brazeau Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:18 AM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff" On this subject, what would you do if a relative decided to use ancestry.com to copy all of your hard work, and even call the tree the same as what you called yours, for the exception of a ). I am very upset over this as I have spent so many hours researching and have spent a lot of money on doing this. Should I confront this person? or just leave it alone. I wouldn't mind if she sourced me on the information she had taken, but she didn't. I know its my tree she is taking from as she has my husbands family in hers, and they do not relate at all to her. Plus, when I found that she was doing this, I put a fake name and info in the tree for 1 day, and alas the next day it was in hers. (Don't worry I removed the fake name out within 8 hours) Any how, I would like to know what others think I should do about this. Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharyn Hay" <meow8@verizon.net> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:07 PM Subject: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff" > How do you know all this stuff? Two recent posts asked this question about > different subjects. > > (1) Some have been doing genealogy for many years. They have been taking > classes, reading genealogy publications, and even studying for > certification > exams. Thus, they have a lot of information in their heads, which they > share, but don't necessarily know where they learned it. > > (2) Some are more interested in history and have pursued this avenue of > research in addition to genealogy. > > (3) Some have chosen to research everything they could about the lives and > times of their ancestors, including reading lots of extra biographical and > historical accounts. > > (4) Some are fascinated by geography and have learned about the role it > has > played in their ancestors' lives. They often have specialized in one > particular region or particular migration routes. > > (5) Some are equally fascinated by immigration/emigtation patterns and > have > read widely about them. > > (6) Some have studied religious practices and the history of religious > groups in an area. > > My point is - On this list are people with a variety of information about > lots of topics which they have studied for many years. It would be nice if > we all made a point of stating our references when we offer information, > but > this is often not possible. For example, when I make a statement about the > Miramichi or Nashwaak River regions, I may not know in which of a dozen > books I learned it over several years. All information offered on any list > should be considered a 'clue' that leads us back to original source > material. > > May I suggest that classes, conferences, periodicals, books, pamphlets, > published genealogies, etc., are a great way to 'fill in the blanks' and > help keep an interest in genealogy alive even when faced by brick walls? > > Regards, > Sharyn Hay > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. 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    05/02/2007 04:57:48
    1. Re: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff"
    2. VIRGINIA SHAW
    3. I know this is a tender subject but most people don't think of the work and money involved in creating such documents - if you don't want your work 'stolen' don't put sources on line. Personally I source the person who created the on line document and then the relevant documents I subsequently find, eg census, marriage record et al. This has occasionally been the only way I find the trail again on my rather elusive ancestors. However if you have made your work pubic record by putting it on line expect it to be used as such. Nuff said Ginny .

    05/02/2007 08:54:57
    1. [ NB ] List Aunt note: Re: "How do you know all this stuff"
    2. Sharyn Hay
    3. We have worn out this subject of ethics in genealogy and Marilyn has said to take it elsewhere. As I am list-sitting for a few days, I will repeat, "This topic is closed". Regards, Sharyn NB List Aunt

    05/02/2007 10:10:51
    1. Re: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff"
    2. Tammy Brazeau
    3. This will be my last post on this subject. I am Very willing to share my information as others have shared with me. But all I would like is to get credit for the information that she took, as I do for others. I guess everyone is not as honest with this kind of stuff, but I am. The person in question was also taught by me on the beginnings of genealogy, especially the sourcing of the information. Thank you to everyone for their comments on this for me, good and bad, I accept them all :) Also thank you for the links given to the list. Everyone keep up the great work. I love this group. Keep on smiling Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ondracek" <dondra30@bellsouth.net> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff" > Pardon Me for Budding In - If you are not willing to share your > information > with others, whoever they may be, please just do not communicate with > others. Remain self-centered, hide your information. What good will it > be > after you are gone. I do not believe God meant for us to do for ourselves > and the dickens with the rest, if they want it they can pitch for > themselves. > > Genealogy is searching and researching the past, enjoy what you are doing, > but also rejoice in sharing with others. Most will appreciate your hard > work. > > Dondra > > -----Original Message----- > From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wanda Powell > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM > To: 'Tammy Brazeau'; newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff" > > When you give out information or put it out for anyone to copy there is > nothing you can do. Look at roots web and just put in a name you'll see > the > same thing if one person made and era you'll find 50 or so people made the > same. One of our lines there is a lady who read the same books as I did > and > has the same information she asked to be notified or give her credit for > the > information she has on line, I read the same books and received the same > information which took 10 years to break through that steel wall but mine > isn't on line noir did I copy hers. Ask who ever to give you credit or > forget about it or stop putting it on line. Yes it is very irritating but > it happens. > > -----Original Message----- > From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Brazeau > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:18 AM > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff" > > On this subject, what would you do if a relative decided to use > ancestry.com > > to copy all of your hard work, and even call the tree the same as what you > called yours, for the exception of a ). I am very upset over this as I > have > > spent so many hours researching and have spent a lot of money on doing > this. > > Should I confront this person? or just leave it alone. I wouldn't mind if > she sourced me on the information she had taken, but she didn't. I know > its > > my tree she is taking from as she has my husbands family in hers, and they > do not relate at all to her. Plus, when I found that she was doing this, I > put a fake name and info in the tree for 1 day, and alas the next day it > was > > in hers. (Don't worry I removed the fake name out within 8 hours) > Any how, I would like to know what others think I should do about this. > Tammy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharyn Hay" <meow8@verizon.net> > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:07 PM > Subject: [ NB ] "How do you know all this stuff" > > >> How do you know all this stuff? Two recent posts asked this question >> about >> different subjects. >> >> (1) Some have been doing genealogy for many years. They have been taking >> classes, reading genealogy publications, and even studying for >> certification >> exams. Thus, they have a lot of information in their heads, which they >> share, but don't necessarily know where they learned it. >> >> (2) Some are more interested in history and have pursued this avenue of >> research in addition to genealogy. >> >> (3) Some have chosen to research everything they could about the lives >> and >> times of their ancestors, including reading lots of extra biographical >> and >> historical accounts. >> >> (4) Some are fascinated by geography and have learned about the role it >> has >> played in their ancestors' lives. They often have specialized in one >> particular region or particular migration routes. >> >> (5) Some are equally fascinated by immigration/emigtation patterns and >> have >> read widely about them. >> >> (6) Some have studied religious practices and the history of religious >> groups in an area. >> >> My point is - On this list are people with a variety of information about >> lots of topics which they have studied for many years. It would be nice >> if >> we all made a point of stating our references when we offer information, >> but >> this is often not possible. For example, when I make a statement about >> the >> Miramichi or Nashwaak River regions, I may not know in which of a dozen >> books I learned it over several years. All information offered on any >> list >> should be considered a 'clue' that leads us back to original source >> material. >> >> May I suggest that classes, conferences, periodicals, books, pamphlets, >> published genealogies, etc., are a great way to 'fill in the blanks' and >> help keep an interest in genealogy alive even when faced by brick walls? >> >> Regards, >> Sharyn Hay >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 > 2:57 > PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 > 2:57 > PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/02/2007 10:46:39