Dear John, Thank you so much for sending the Manchester info. It was invaluable. The Ann married to Samuel Scribner, and the Mary Ann m. to Gould Pickett would be in the age group to be John Manchester's sisters. Until now, neither had a surname. I am deperately trying to figure out who was the Thomas White that Ann Manchester Scribner remarried to. He does not have his own file in First Families. These Manchesters were certainly elusive, and kudos to you for ferreting some of them out! I am curious as to how one accesses the Trinty Anglican Church records for Kingston. It sounds like it would be an extremely valuable asset for me. Is it a book - or are we looking at pouring over microfilm??? Thanks again, John. Lisa Z
Lisa, Seems, if one cross-references the names in the FF file on MANCHESTER, the family most obviously moved to Burritt Twp, Winnebago Co, IL, USA. Here are some additional notes on the family line from Census, marriage, and history records of various types... 1840 US Census for Illinois for Winnebago County and Burritt Township: John Manchester Males=M Females=F M---5 to 10 yrs==1 M--10 to 15 yrs==2 M--20 to 30 yrs==1 M--30 to 40 yrs==1 (William?) M--50 to 60 yrs==1 (John) F---10 to 15 yrs==1 F---15 to 20 yrs==1 F---50 to 60 yrs==1 1850 US Census for Burritt, Winnebago Co, IL: MANCHESTER: John, 62, m, NB Elizabeth, 60, f, NB Abraham, 30, m, NB Charles, 16, m, Canada (son) Further down the page: Stephen G. Manchester, 21, m, NB (listed as Stephen C. in FF) then William Manchester, 52, m, NB (perhaps a brother of John's? - not noted in FF) and on another page, same location: Joseph Manchester 40 b. NB Elizabeth Manchester 20 b. Eng (wife) Nelson Seaver 14 b. NY In 1860 US Census for same location: Josheph Manchester 50 Elizabeth Manchester 28 (wife, b. England) Oscar H Manchester 9 (son) Rachel Williams 21 Fredrick Tilke 30 Elizabeth Manchester 15 (unsure of relationship... could even be mother with age incorrectly listed???) Another MANCHESTER listing in the town COULD be related, if Thomas B. MANCHESTER listed was a son or grandson of John & Elizabeth... Adine Manchester 27 b. NY - school teacher (married to Asa R. Godding aged 45, in 1880 US Census) Albert Manchester 6 b. IL Stephen Manchester 4 b. IL (stepson of Asa Godding in 1880, in Iowa) Thomas B. Manchester 22, b. IL Here's John and Elizabeth's son, Charles, in Burritt in 1860: Charles Manchester 26 b. Canada Climend Manchester 24 b. ME Franklin Manchester 5 b. IL Fredrick Manchester 4 b. IL Charles Manchester 1 b. IL In 1870 US Census for same location, found Joseph, b. 1810, and Elizabeth b. 1789, but no John. Joseph was HoH, with his mother (widowed) living with his family. Joseph Manchester 60 Elisabeth Manchester 39 (wife, b. England) Elisabeth Manchester 81 (mother) Minnie Manchester 10 (daughter, b. IL) Mary Bryan 23 (domestic) William Bryan 25 (farm laborer) by 1880, none left in Winnebago Co, IL... Joseph and wife Elizabeth are removed to Bover, Crawford Co, IA: listed with a male child, Eddie Manchester, who is aged 9, but listed b. IL to parents both born IL... he IS listed as a son, but perhaps a grandson, or adopted?? Perhaps this couple's move to Iowa is another reason to believe the Thomas B. Manchester married to Adine in 1870, was a son/grandson of John & Elizabeth's... There are also some Manchesters in Natick, MA in the 1850-1870 census records, with NB roots. There is indication that John died in Manchester Settlement (Burritt Twp) on 16-Mar-1859, and that he and Elizabeth had six chidren (a bit less than what FF indicates, but perhaps only six of their chidren came with them or were born in IL???). >From early IL marriage indexes... Winnebago Co... Abraham G. MANCHESTER m. 26-Sep-1844, to Emily Russell Charles MANCHESTER m. 04-May-1854 to Climena Crowell (see 1860 census) Joseph MANCHESTER m. 15-Apr-1850 to Elizabeth Barsby (her father is listed in one census record, but I thought he was just a lodger). Stephen C. MANCHESTER m. Adaline B Love, 13-Oct-1853 T. Whitemore MANCHESTER m. Fannie Lawrence on 07-Jul-1875 (Thomas??? or unrelated??) Adaline (LOVE) Manchester m. Asa R. Godding on 05-Sep-1866 (widow? of Stephen) Christina (Chrishan) MANCHESTER m. Thomas M. Bryan, 20-Jun-1837 Esther Jane MANCHESTER m. John S. McIntosh, on 26-Dec-1841 Harriet E. (Eliza?) m. Dillazon S. Hurd, on 03-Nov-1844 >From the History of Burritt, IL: Burritt was the 5th Township in our County to organize Augrst 1835- just 17 years after Statehood of Illinois. In these early days, living and working was a hardship, remember no electricity, on radios, no television, no cars, truck or tractors. Just walking, an ox, horses and wind, was the transportation and power of the day. Small communities or settlements, sprang up, very likely for convenience and protection. One such area was Manchester Settlement, started by one John Manchester in about 1835, along with Isaac Hame, John McIntosh, A. Shearman and Elias and Alva Trask. Manchester Settlement was located near the intersection of Trask Bridge Road and Winnebago and Cemetery Roads. At the end of Cemetery Road and South of Trask Bridge Road, stood a Blacksmith Shop and a Wagon Shop. Across the road and East of Cemetery Road was the Inn and Post Office. This Post Office was later moved to Wempletown. The Manchester Cemetery (aka Atkinson Cemetery) was and is still located west of Winnebago Road and south of Trask Bridge Road. Buried in this obscure, weed infested area are the pioneers of our earliest heritage of Burritt. The Rev. W. Stillwell, founder of our first church, lies peacefully on the western slope, under a beautiful old tree. His head stone long since, toppled by the elements, reading simply Rev. Wm. Stillwell, died May 12, 1850. Near Stillwells grave are other headstones of our early pioneers, John Manchester, no readable dates. Mary Ann, daughter of S. & J. Toogood died Oct. 7, 1855. Nancy Westbrook, age about 20, wife of T. Westbrook, died Jan. 19, 1846. Apparently of child birth as her infant daughter rests with her. The whole McIntosh family rests here. John McIntosh, Born Sept. 26, 1810, died Sept. 18, 1866. His wife Catherine, age 31, died Sept. 27, 1840 and three children, Henry died Sept. 23, 1841. Eldridge, died Aug 15, 1846 and John D. died July 11, 1850. Other head stones show a Julius, son of J & M Scott, died July 31, 1844, age 2 months & 3 days and Catherine, wife of R. Brainard, died Dec. 3, 1855. Age 40 years 1 month 15 days. These headstones, almost lost by time, are mute testimony of the hardships of the early pioneers of Burritt. Charles T Manchester enlisted in Union as a Corporal in Burritt IL, on 08-Sep-1862, was in Company H, IL 74th Inf Regt. He mustered out in February 1863. Land records for Winnebago Co, IL, show Jospeh and Otis Manchester, filing claims on 01-Mar-1847. Abraham G. on 01-Mar-1848, as well as John and Otis, again. I've not a clue on Otis!!! Hope these help out a bit... Jared > Dear John, > > Thank you so much for sending the Manchester info. It was invaluable. > > The Ann married to Samuel Scribner, and the Mary Ann m. to Gould > Pickett would be in the age group to be John Manchester's sisters. > Until now, neither had a surname. I am deperately trying to figure out who > was > the Thomas White that Ann Manchester Scribner remarried to. He does not > have his own file in First Families. These Manchesters were certainly > elusive, and kudos to you for ferreting some of them out! > > I am curious as to how one accesses the Trinty Anglican Church records > for Kingston. It sounds like it would be an extremely valuable asset for > me. > Is it a book - or are we looking at pouring over microfilm??? > > Thanks again, John. > Lisa Z > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker [email protected] "It's a dog eat dog world, and I have Milkbone underwear." (Norm - Cheers)
Jared, Thanks for this. Elizabeth (Brittain) Manchester is a daughter of one of my ancestors and I had wondered where she went, since there were few records of her existence in NB. Interestingly, her sister Mary, wife of Jacob Pidgeon, named one of her children David Manchester Pidgeon. At 04:08 PM 17 07 2009, Jared Handspicker wrote: >Lisa, > >Seems, if one cross-references the names in the FF file on MANCHESTER, the >family most obviously moved to Burritt Twp, Winnebago Co, IL, USA. Here >are some additional notes on the family line from Census, marriage, and >history records of various types... > >1840 US Census for Illinois for Winnebago County and Burritt Township: >John Manchester >Males=M Females=F >M---5 to 10 yrs==1 >M--10 to 15 yrs==2 >M--20 to 30 yrs==1 >M--30 to 40 yrs==1 (William?) >M--50 to 60 yrs==1 (John) >F---10 to 15 yrs==1 >F---15 to 20 yrs==1 >F---50 to 60 yrs==1 > >1850 US Census for Burritt, Winnebago Co, IL: > >MANCHESTER: >John, 62, m, NB >Elizabeth, 60, f, NB >Abraham, 30, m, NB >Charles, 16, m, Canada (son) > >Further down the page: >Stephen G. Manchester, 21, m, NB (listed as Stephen C. in FF) >then >William Manchester, 52, m, NB (perhaps a brother of John's? - not noted in >FF) > >and on another page, same location: > >Joseph Manchester 40 b. NB >Elizabeth Manchester 20 b. Eng (wife) >Nelson Seaver 14 b. NY > > >In 1860 US Census for same location: > >Josheph Manchester 50 >Elizabeth Manchester 28 (wife, b. England) >Oscar H Manchester 9 (son) >Rachel Williams 21 >Fredrick Tilke 30 >Elizabeth Manchester 15 (unsure of relationship... could even be mother >with age incorrectly listed???) > >Another MANCHESTER listing in the town COULD be related, if Thomas B. >MANCHESTER listed was a son or grandson of John & Elizabeth... > >Adine Manchester 27 b. NY - school teacher (married to Asa R. Godding aged >45, in 1880 US Census) >Albert Manchester 6 b. IL >Stephen Manchester 4 b. IL (stepson of Asa Godding in 1880, in Iowa) >Thomas B. Manchester 22, b. IL > >Here's John and Elizabeth's son, Charles, in Burritt in 1860: > >Charles Manchester 26 b. Canada >Climend Manchester 24 b. ME >Franklin Manchester 5 b. IL >Fredrick Manchester 4 b. IL >Charles Manchester 1 b. IL > > >In 1870 US Census for same location, found Joseph, b. 1810, and Elizabeth >b. 1789, but no John. Joseph was HoH, with his mother (widowed) living >with his family. > >Joseph Manchester 60 >Elisabeth Manchester 39 (wife, b. England) >Elisabeth Manchester 81 (mother) >Minnie Manchester 10 (daughter, b. IL) >Mary Bryan 23 (domestic) >William Bryan 25 (farm laborer) > >by 1880, none left in Winnebago Co, IL... >Joseph and wife Elizabeth are removed to Bover, Crawford Co, IA: >listed with a male child, Eddie Manchester, who is aged 9, but listed b. >IL to parents both born IL... he IS listed as a son, but perhaps a >grandson, or adopted?? > >Perhaps this couple's move to Iowa is another reason to believe the Thomas >B. Manchester married to Adine in 1870, was a son/grandson of John & >Elizabeth's... > >There are also some Manchesters in Natick, MA in the 1850-1870 census >records, with NB roots. > >There is indication that John died in Manchester Settlement (Burritt Twp) >on 16-Mar-1859, and that he and Elizabeth had six chidren (a bit less than >what FF indicates, but perhaps only six of their chidren came with them or >were born in IL???). > > > >From early IL marriage indexes... Winnebago Co... > >Abraham G. MANCHESTER m. 26-Sep-1844, to Emily Russell >Charles MANCHESTER m. 04-May-1854 to Climena Crowell (see 1860 census) >Joseph MANCHESTER m. 15-Apr-1850 to Elizabeth Barsby (her father is listed >in one census record, but I thought he was just a lodger). >Stephen C. MANCHESTER m. Adaline B Love, 13-Oct-1853 >T. Whitemore MANCHESTER m. Fannie Lawrence on 07-Jul-1875 (Thomas??? or >unrelated??) >Adaline (LOVE) Manchester m. Asa R. Godding on 05-Sep-1866 (widow? of >Stephen) >Christina (Chrishan) MANCHESTER m. Thomas M. Bryan, 20-Jun-1837 >Esther Jane MANCHESTER m. John S. McIntosh, on 26-Dec-1841 >Harriet E. (Eliza?) m. Dillazon S. Hurd, on 03-Nov-1844 > > > >From the History of Burritt, IL: > >Burritt was the 5th Township in our County to organize Augrst 1835- just >17 years after Statehood of Illinois. In these early days, living and >working was a hardship, remember no electricity, on radios, no >television, no cars, truck or tractors. Just walking, an ox, horses and >wind, was the transportation and power of the day. Small communities or >settlements, sprang up, very likely for convenience and protection. > >One such area was Manchester Settlement, started by one John Manchester in >about 1835, along with Isaac Hame, John McIntosh, A. Shearman and Elias >and Alva Trask. Manchester Settlement was located near the intersection of >Trask Bridge Road and Winnebago and Cemetery Roads. At the end of Cemetery >Road and South of Trask Bridge Road, stood a Blacksmith Shop and a Wagon >Shop. Across the road and East of Cemetery Road was the Inn and Post >Office. This Post Office was later moved to Wempletown. > >The Manchester Cemetery (aka Atkinson Cemetery) was and is still located >west of Winnebago Road and south of Trask Bridge Road. Buried in this >obscure, weed infested area are the pioneers of our earliest heritage of >Burritt. The Rev. W. Stillwell, founder of our first church, lies >peacefully on the western slope, under a beautiful old tree. His head >stone long since, toppled by the elements, reading simply Rev. Wm. >Stillwell, died May 12, 1850. Near Stillwells grave are other headstones >of our early pioneers, John Manchester, no readable dates. Mary Ann, >daughter of S. & J. Toogood died Oct. 7, 1855. Nancy Westbrook, age about >20, wife of T. Westbrook, died Jan. 19, 1846. Apparently of child birth as >her infant daughter rests with her. The whole McIntosh family rests here. >John McIntosh, Born Sept. 26, 1810, died Sept. 18, 1866. His wife >Catherine, age 31, died Sept. 27, 1840 and three children, Henry died >Sept. 23, 1841. Eldridge, died Aug 15, 1846 and John D. died July 11, >1850. Other head stones show a Julius, son of J & M Scott, died July 31, >1844, age 2 months & 3 days and Catherine, wife of R. Brainard, died Dec. >3, 1855. Age 40 years 1 month 15 days. These headstones, almost lost by >time, are mute testimony of the hardships of the early pioneers of >Burritt. > >Charles T Manchester enlisted in Union as a Corporal in Burritt IL, on >08-Sep-1862, was in Company H, IL 74th Inf Regt. He mustered out in >February 1863. > >Land records for Winnebago Co, IL, show Jospeh and Otis Manchester, filing >claims on 01-Mar-1847. Abraham G. on 01-Mar-1848, as well as John and >Otis, again. I've not a clue on Otis!!! > > >Hope these help out a bit... > >Jared > > > Dear John, > > > > Thank you so much for sending the Manchester info. It was invaluable. > > > > The Ann married to Samuel Scribner, and the Mary Ann m. to Gould > > Pickett would be in the age group to be John Manchester's sisters. > > Until now, neither had a surname. I am deperately trying to figure out who > > was > > the Thomas White that Ann Manchester Scribner remarried to. He does not > > have his own file in First Families. These Manchesters were certainly > > elusive, and kudos to you for ferreting some of them out! > > > > I am curious as to how one accesses the Trinty Anglican Church records > > for Kingston. It sounds like it would be an extremely valuable asset for > > me. > > Is it a book - or are we looking at pouring over microfilm??? > > > > Thanks again, John. > > Lisa Z > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------ >Jared "Jed" Handspicker >[email protected] > >"It's a dog eat dog world, and I have Milkbone underwear." (Norm - Cheers) > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >List Announcements can be found at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message David Reed ([email protected]) Toronto, Ontario, Canada