SInce Charles died within months of enlisting and the Commonwealth War Graves Commission doesn't have him their database, it is very probable that he didn't make it overseas. He may have been ill or training accidents were also common. You might check the Saint John newspapers for the report of his passing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB > Hi Beverley, > > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their > information > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will > probably > > be able to contact them and correct the error. > > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. > www.automatedgenealogy.com > > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library to > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind > enough to retrieve them for you. > > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' > currently > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy > Vital Records. > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. > > Good luck! > > Shirley > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the >> train >> wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d >> been >> through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been >> wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could >> check >> the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? >> >> Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, including >> his >> attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the >> War >> Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. There >> are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. >> >> I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so its >> a >> long way to PANB. >> >> Beverley >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives >> > site >> > under "Cemeteries" but his >> > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. >> > >> > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) >> > >> > >> > >> http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > Beverley, >> > > >> > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o >> > Charles >> > > William >> > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North >> > > Devon, >> > York >> > > Co., age >> > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and >> that >> > > he was buried >> > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 >> > > >> > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - a >> > copy >> > > of the page is >> > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards >> > attending >> > > the various Books of >> > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different >> > > than >> > > what you are showing), then >> > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this >> > > page..." >> > > and they will tell you >> > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at that >> > time. >> > > >> > > Shirley >> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < >> [email protected] >> > >wrote: >> > > >> > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my >> > great >> > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson >> > >> *Charles >> > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months >> after >> > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and >> > >> *Isobella >> > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my >> > >> grandmother >> > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and >> > >> I >> m >> > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 >> > >> as >> it >> > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the >> > family >> > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. >> > >> >> > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone >> > >> has >> > >> more >> > >> personal infomration. >> > >> -- >> > >> Beverley Clarkson >> > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >> List Announcements can be found at >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > >> without >> > the >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Announcements can be found at >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Beverley Clarkson >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
great idea thanks. I assume that training would have taken place there snce that is where he signed up. B On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Don Dunbar <[email protected]> wrote: > SInce Charles died within months of enlisting and the Commonwealth War > Graves Commission doesn't have him their database, it is very probable that > he didn't make it overseas. He may have been ill or training accidents > were > also common. You might check the Saint John newspapers for the report of > his passing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB > > > > Hi Beverley, > > > > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have > > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this > > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their > > information > > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will > > probably > > > > be able to contact them and correct the error. > > > > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. > > www.automatedgenealogy.com > > > > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library to > > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits > > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind > > enough to retrieve them for you. > > > > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' > > currently > > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy > > Vital Records. > > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Shirley > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the > >> train > >> wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d > >> been > >> through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been > >> wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could > >> check > >> the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? > >> > >> Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, including > >> his > >> attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the > >> War > >> Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. > There > >> are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. > >> > >> I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so > its > >> a > >> long way to PANB. > >> > >> Beverley > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives > >> > site > >> > under "Cemeteries" but his > >> > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. > >> > > >> > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 > >> > > >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Beverley, > >> > > > >> > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o > >> > Charles > >> > > William > >> > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North > >> > > Devon, > >> > York > >> > > Co., age > >> > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and > >> that > >> > > he was buried > >> > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 > >> > > > >> > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - > a > >> > copy > >> > > of the page is > >> > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards > >> > attending > >> > > the various Books of > >> > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different > >> > > than > >> > > what you are showing), then > >> > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this > >> > > page..." > >> > > and they will tell you > >> > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at > that > >> > time. > >> > > > >> > > Shirley > >> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < > >> [email protected] > >> > >wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my > >> > great > >> > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson > >> > >> *Charles > >> > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months > >> after > >> > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and > >> > >> *Isobella > >> > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > >> > >> grandmother > >> > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there > and > >> > >> I > >> m > >> > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 > >> > >> as > >> it > >> > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the > >> > family > >> > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. > >> > >> > >> > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone > >> > >> has > >> > >> more > >> > >> personal infomration. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Beverley Clarkson > >> > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > >> without > >> > the > >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > List Announcements can be found at > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Beverley Clarkson > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia