Hmmm.... not sure I can agree with the FamSearch listing. Though I can't dispute the Carlisle parents, the dates for James are incorrect. This is not the James b. 1778. He did died in 1869, but this is James A. Starkey, b. @1801 (see Johnston Parish census, 1861, aged 60). Also, his parents, Mordecai Starkey and Mary Ballentine Ackerly/Akerly, were not married until 27-Apr-1797 (Gagetown Anglican). At the time, Mary was just 17, with her birthdate being 23-Mar-1772, in New York. If this presumption on FamSearch record were correct, then Mary Ackerly could NOT be mother of James Starkey. Given that Mordecai was b. @1756, perhaps and argument COULD be made for an earlier wife? Jared > Hi Jerry, > > FamSearch shows the following: > > Catherine CARLISLE / Kate CARLYLE was the dau/o Robert CARLISLE (1782 - > ) > & Elizabeth LAMBERT (1786 - ); > married 06 Feb 1832 New Brunswick, James STARKEY (1778-1869) s/o Mordecai > STARKEY & Mary ACKERLY. > All shown as being of Queens Co. NB. > > Ch/o Catherine & James: > 1. Samuel Morton STARKEY 04 Sep 1837 Johnston Par, Queens Co.; d. 20 > Nov > 1921; > mar. 15 Jul 1861 NB, Annie Tregoning BRENT 07 Feb 1837 Bidiford, > Devonshire, England; d. 30 Apr 1923 > th/ch Herbert Morton STARKEY (1862-1951) > > > Shirley > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:06 PM, sara5d <[email protected]> wrote: > >> PANB has her listed as Catherine Carlisle, wife of James Stakey, at >> Coles >> Island Baptist Cemetery. >> I am never comfortable when this happens; is that the way her tombstone >> is >> written? Has someone taken the liberty of presuming her name ?? >> Sara >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: S. Olfert >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Catherine Carlisle (wife of James Starkey) - Queens >> County >> >> >> Jerry - what's Catherine's last name? >> The cemetery site you have posted does not lead to a Catherine. >> >> Shirley >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Jerry LeBlanc <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > Would anyone know who Catherine's parents were? According to the info >> found >> > on the provincial archives website >> > ( >> > >> http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=669 >> > 84), she died in 1890 - buried in the Coles Island Baptist Church >> cemetery. >> > I don't see a listing for her death record on the site. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Jerry >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Announcements can be found at >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker [email protected] "It's a dog eat dog world, and I have Milkbone underwear." (Norm - Cheers)

Hi Jared & Jerry, Jared's right... I didn't look at the individual files closely enough... just concentrated on names of Catherine's parents. Relooking at the research on new.FamSearch... What's taking place is that all of the records are gathered (good, bad & the impossible! ) :>) for that one person and placed in one file so that everything is shown at once - the varying birth dates, places, etc. - so that the records can be edited (but not changed from their original form) and the correct information inserted. Now that I'm awake, I do see what you're saying with the marriage of Mordecai Starkey & Mary Ackerly. There is a marriage date of 1797 Gagetown (along with all of the "about" and "before" dates). So checking the file for their son James Starkey, I realized that I had taken his dates of 1778-1869 from what was in front of me and did not go into his file to see what else was in there for information. I now find that one of the persons who had submitted the information on James & his siblings was 20 years off on quite a few of the children and had calculated the births based what he thought the age of the father, Mordeca was. So as well as the old record of c1778 for James, there is also the birth date of 13 Jun 1801 Cody, Queens Co. - which goes with what you found, Jared, for approx. age for James on the 1861 census. As for James's parents, Mordecai is shown with everything from a definite date of 04 July 1756 New Jersey to bef 1795 of Queens Co. NB. Mary Ackerley's birth is shown from 1768 to 23 Mar 1772 New York to 1795 of Queens NB. The files are just waiting for someone to go in and edit them with the correct information. Catherine Carlisle's records, on the other hand, are not so all over the place. Kate Carlyle is also shown; birth date 1807 to May 1807; born NB to of Johnston, Queens Co. NB; died 1890 to Feb 1890; bur Coles Island, Queens, NB. Her parents have only had one submission for records - this doesn't mean that they're right, it just means that this is what someone has found or calculated so far: Robert Carlisle born abt 1782, of Queens Co., NB Elizabeth Lambert born abt 1786, of Queens Co., NB Thanks, Jared. Shirley On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jared Handspicker <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmmm.... not sure I can agree with the FamSearch listing. Though I can't > dispute the Carlisle parents, the dates for James are incorrect. This is > not the James b. 1778. He did died in 1869, but this is James A. Starkey, > b. @1801 (see Johnston Parish census, 1861, aged 60). Also, his parents, > Mordecai Starkey and Mary Ballentine Ackerly/Akerly, were not married > until 27-Apr-1797 (Gagetown Anglican). At the time, Mary was just 17, > with her birthdate being 23-Mar-1772, in New York. If this presumption on > FamSearch record were correct, then Mary Ackerly could NOT be mother of > James Starkey. Given that Mordecai was b. @1756, perhaps and argument > COULD be made for an earlier wife? > > > > > >