Heather: I noticed in newbrunswick-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:newbrunswick-request@rootsweb.com> <newbrunswick-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:newbrunswick-request@rootsweb.com>> you wrote a bit on Pokiok the river and the falls.... In the year 1873, 26 of May my gggrandfather James Fraser born 9 June 1835 in NS died falling off Pokiok Falls....are there any records of that time period on line that I can search? He was married to Margaret Maxwell of St. George, Charlotte Co NB and then Elizabeth Hunter of St. George Area. lbrenchley@msn.com<mailto:lbrenchley@msn.com> Launa

My ancestors (Cornelius Malone, Edward/Richard Murray, McCarthy) all hail from Petersville along the Gagetown Rd. I have an oral history from a relative describing the homes and families along the road, as well as the Saxby Gale and the government's take-over of their homes and land. We visited in 1993 and I was able to take pictures of my ancestors in the cemetary on the Broad Rd. Very beautiful land, no wonder they all settles there! Thanks for the article! Maggie

Richard, Here are some web sites that may provide you with some background. http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm.php?id=story_line&lg=English&fl=0&ex=00000084 &sl=1936&pos=1 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nbpast/AL/al-02.html Debby -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Murray Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:15 PM To: NewBrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: [ NB ] RE "Lost Names in New Brunswick Heather, Your post to the list, regarding lost place names, is very much appreciated and can be quite helpful to most of us doing research from many miles away... thank you! On the same subject, does anyone on the list have an explanation of what happened to the settlement of New Ireland, Harvey Parish, Albert County? What made it an attractive place to establish a community? Why was it eventually abandoned? In what time frame did that occur? My great,great grandparents settled there in 1824, all, except their oldest child, were born there, including my great grandfather. I believe there was another settlement called New Ireland Road what was the history of that settlement? Thank you in advance, for anyone wishing to address this one. Richard Ontario ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Heather, Your post to the list, regarding lost place names, is very much appreciated and can be quite helpful to most of us doing research from many miles away... thank you! On the same subject, does anyone on the list have an explanation of what happened to the settlement of New Ireland, Harvey Parish, Albert County? What made it an attractive place to establish a community? Why was it eventually abandoned? In what time frame did that occur? My great,great grandparents settled there in 1824, all, except their oldest child, were born there, including my great grandfather. I believe there was another settlement called New Ireland Road what was the history of that settlement? Thank you in advance, for anyone wishing to address this one. Richard Ontario

Thanks for submitting this information on "lost names". In the Nackawic area of N.B. another name was due to be obliterated from the map when the new 4-lane section of the Trans-Canada highway in that area opened in November. The name "Pokiok" was left off all signage beside the new highway, and the name "Allendale Road" substituted for the area previously known as Pokiok. Thanks to prompt action by a group of residents, the name "Pokiok is to be restored. Pokiok (Poquiock) is the name given to the stream (river?) in that area by the aboriginal people , long before the land beside it was assigned to the arriving "Loyalists" . I grew up beside that stream and the spectacular and beautiful Pokiok Falls........................which was wiped out when the Mactaquac Dam was built. My understanding was that the name "Poquiock" meant either "Deep Gorge" or "Falling Water". Although the Falls is gone, the stream remains, and the powers- that- be have decided to retain the original name. Sometimes we have to step up and make our wishes known. Heather Waddingham <hwaddingham@yahoo.com> wrote: Morning... This article was published in today's (Jan 20, 2007) Telegraph Journal or Times Transcript. (Not sure which as it is not indicated on the net... I think it is the Telegraph.) Source: Bill Hamilton Published Saturday January 20th, 2007 Appeared on page A6 Aside from cultural interest, place names shed light on the evolution of a community, county or province. A check of old maps, directories and gazetteers reveals that a considerable number of New Brunswick place names have disappeared. Although technically "off the map," they remain important because of the insight they provide regarding settlement patterns. Londonderry, located on the old Shepody Road in Kings County, is one such community. As the name implies, it was first settled by immigrants from Ulster in Northern Ireland. Today little remains, as the forest has encroached on the land. The exception is St. Paul's Anglican Church, consecrated in 1857 by Bishop John Medley (1804-92). Described as "a neat Norman structure consisting of a tower, nave and chancel of pleasing proportions," it served the community until 1925 when regular services ended. After a period of neglect, the structure was refurbished in 1960. Since then, services have been held each summer to mark the history of the community. Just last month, the church was the setting for a special Advent candlelight service. The congregation of some 100 people included one person who had been baptized in the church in 1922. Second Westcock Hill in Westmorland County has a similar story. It was settled around 1850 by homesteaders from nearby Westcock and Sackville. As with Londonderry, the attraction was lumbering. Westcock, for whom it was named, is traceable to the Mi'kmaq Oakshaak, of unknown meaning. Although there is a Westcock in Surrey, England, it has no connection with New Brunswick. The Mi'kmaq version was adopted by the French, who filtered it through their language as Ouskak. Later, following English occupation, it evolved as Westcock. The last surviving building in the community was St. Stephen's Anglican Church, torn down in 1925. The first rector was Rev. G.G. Roberts, father of Sir Charles G.D. Roberts (1860-1943), the prominent poet and novelist. Second Westcock Hill was later featured in his works. Roberts the younger described St. Stephen's as "a quaint and old fashioned church. The shingles were grey with the beating of many winters; its square tower surmounted by four spindling posts, like legs of a table turned heavenward. Down the long slope below the church, straggled the village, half lost in the snow, and whistled over by the winds of the Bay of Fundy." Today, the only reminder of Second Westcock Hill, beyond a place name and the whistling wind, is a superb view of Shepody Bay and Mountain with Grindstone Island in the foreground. In the 19th century there were three New Brunswick communities named Skedaddle Ridge: two in York County and one in Carleton. All had the same origin. During the American Civil War (1861-65), isolated areas of the province became a haven for the first American draft dodgers. The American Dictionary of Slang (1864) defined "skedaddle" as a "disorderly retreat - probably set afloat by some professor at Harvard." Of the three, only the last mentioned, located southeast of Knowlesville, is on contemporary maps. Other ghost communities may be found throughout the province. Many resulted from bad choices by land-hungry immigrants in the 19th century. Some settlers came as a result of the Scottish Highland Clearances and the Irish Potato Famine. Established on land ill suited for agriculture, scores were later abandoned. The disappearance of place names was not to cease in the 20th century. In 1953, a large section of Queens County, west of the St. John River, along with a smaller part of Sunbury County, was expropriated for the construction of CFB Gagetown. In all, between 2,000 and 3,000 people were obliged to leave their homes. Some 25 communities were lost. In August 2003, a special 50th anniversary celebration was sponsored by the Base Gagetown Community Historical Association. Major projects, such as the construction of the Mactaquac Dam in the 1960s, have also taken a toll of place names. The descriptive Snowshoe Islands was obliterated. According to legend, the Mi'kmaq god Glooscap dropped his snowshoes here when he encountered an early spring. Later, the legend and name was transferred to nearby Snowshoe Cove. Mactaquac, first applied to Mactaquac Stream, is of Maliseet origin and was translated by the late historian William F. Ganong as "big branch," a possible reference to its relationship to the St. John River. On the positive side, two new/old names may be attributed to the Mactaquac development: Kings Landing and Nackawic. Kings Landing was selected as an appropriate designation for a historical village depicting life on the central St. John River during the period 1780-1870. Almost all of the structures were moved to the new site from flooded communities. The result has been an unqualified success. Kings Landing now ranks as one of the most visited tourist attractions in the province. As for Nackawic, because about 2,000 people were displaced to create what became known as Mactaquac Lake, a new town was established midway between Fredericton and Woodstock. First known as Culliton for an early settler, an alternate name was suggested by local residents. It was felt that Nackawic would be more befitting from a historical and geographical standpoint. This name is traceable to the Maliseet for "straight stream." Prior to flooding, the Nackawic Stream was in line with the St. John River. Municipal amalgamations have also led to the loss of some place names. Fortunately, the hyphen has come to the rescue, as in Tracadie-Sheila (Gloucester). Tracadie is of Mi'kmaq origin and means "camping ground," while Sheila (pronounced "SHYla" refers to Sheila Foster, an early resident. Other hyphenated place names are found in all sections of the province. Some place names lost are still remembered. - Bill Hamilton is an historian from Sackville. Heather Waddingham Campobello Parish Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ My England and Canadian Roots http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=CDNROOTS Moncton High School Class of 1983 - 25 Year Reunion in August 8-9 2008 http://home.cogeco.ca/~genbuf/MHS1983.htm ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! 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This was very interesting. Can anyone tell me about the Scotish Highland Clearances which resulted in an exodus in the 19th century (which you mentioned)? Marilyn C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Waddingham" <hwaddingham@yahoo.com> To: "NB Rootsweb Mailing List" <newbrunswick-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:00 AM Subject: [ NB ] Lost Names in New Brunswick > Morning... > > This article was published in today's (Jan 20, 2007) Telegraph Journal or > Times Transcript. (Not sure which as it is not indicated on the net... I > think it is the Telegraph.) > > Source: > Bill Hamilton > Published Saturday January 20th, 2007 > Appeared on page A6 > > > Aside from cultural interest, place names shed light on the evolution of a > community, county or province. A check of old maps, directories and > gazetteers reveals that a considerable number of New Brunswick place names > have disappeared. Although technically "off the map," they remain > important because of the insight they provide regarding settlement > patterns. > > Londonderry, located on the old Shepody Road in Kings County, is one such > community. As the name implies, it was first settled by immigrants from > Ulster in Northern Ireland. Today little remains, as the forest has > encroached on the land. The exception is St. Paul's Anglican Church, > consecrated in 1857 by Bishop John Medley (1804-92). Described as "a neat > Norman structure consisting of a tower, nave and chancel of pleasing > proportions," it served the community until 1925 when regular services > ended. > > After a period of neglect, the structure was refurbished in 1960. Since > then, services have been held each summer to mark the history of the > community. Just last month, the church was the setting for a special > Advent candlelight service. The congregation of some 100 people included > one person who had been baptized in the church in 1922. > > Second Westcock Hill in Westmorland County has a similar story. It was > settled around 1850 by homesteaders from nearby Westcock and Sackville. As > with Londonderry, the attraction was lumbering. Westcock, for whom it was > named, is traceable to the Mi'kmaq Oakshaak, of unknown meaning. Although > there is a Westcock in Surrey, England, it has no connection with New > Brunswick. The Mi'kmaq version was adopted by the French, who filtered it > through their language as Ouskak. Later, following English occupation, it > evolved as Westcock. > > The last surviving building in the community was St. Stephen's Anglican > Church, torn down in 1925. The first rector was Rev. G.G. Roberts, father > of Sir Charles G.D. Roberts (1860-1943), the prominent poet and novelist. > Second Westcock Hill was later featured in his works. > > Roberts the younger described St. Stephen's as "a quaint and old fashioned > church. The shingles were grey with the beating of many winters; its > square tower surmounted by four spindling posts, like legs of a table > turned heavenward. Down the long slope below the church, straggled the > village, half lost in the snow, and whistled over by the winds of the Bay > of Fundy." > > Today, the only reminder of Second Westcock Hill, beyond a place name and > the whistling wind, is a superb view of Shepody Bay and Mountain with > Grindstone Island in the foreground. > > In the 19th century there were three New Brunswick communities named > Skedaddle Ridge: two in York County and one in Carleton. All had the same > origin. During the American Civil War (1861-65), isolated areas of the > province became a haven for the first American draft dodgers. The American > Dictionary of Slang (1864) defined "skedaddle" as a "disorderly retreat - > probably set afloat by some professor at Harvard." Of the three, only the > last mentioned, located southeast of Knowlesville, is on contemporary > maps. > > Other ghost communities may be found throughout the province. Many > resulted from bad choices by land-hungry immigrants in the 19th century. > Some settlers came as a result of the Scottish Highland Clearances and the > Irish Potato Famine. Established on land ill suited for agriculture, > scores were later abandoned. > > The disappearance of place names was not to cease in the 20th century. In > 1953, a large section of Queens County, west of the St. John River, along > with a smaller part of Sunbury County, was expropriated for the > construction of CFB Gagetown. In all, between 2,000 and 3,000 people were > obliged to leave their homes. Some 25 communities were lost. In August > 2003, a special 50th anniversary celebration was sponsored by the Base > Gagetown Community Historical Association. > > Major projects, such as the construction of the Mactaquac Dam in the > 1960s, have also taken a toll of place names. The descriptive Snowshoe > Islands was obliterated. According to legend, the Mi'kmaq god Glooscap > dropped his snowshoes here when he encountered an early spring. Later, the > legend and name was transferred to nearby Snowshoe Cove. Mactaquac, first > applied to Mactaquac Stream, is of Maliseet origin and was translated by > the late historian William F. Ganong as "big branch," a possible reference > to its relationship to the St. John River. > > On the positive side, two new/old names may be attributed to the Mactaquac > development: Kings Landing and Nackawic. Kings Landing was selected as an > appropriate designation for a historical village depicting life on the > central St. John River during the period 1780-1870. Almost all of the > structures were moved to the new site from flooded communities. The result > has been an unqualified success. Kings Landing now ranks as one of the > most visited tourist attractions in the province. > > As for Nackawic, because about 2,000 people were displaced to create what > became known as Mactaquac Lake, a new town was established midway between > Fredericton and Woodstock. First known as Culliton for an early settler, > an alternate name was suggested by local residents. It was felt that > Nackawic would be more befitting from a historical and geographical > standpoint. This name is traceable to the Maliseet for "straight stream." > Prior to flooding, the Nackawic Stream was in line with the St. John > River. > > Municipal amalgamations have also led to the loss of some place names. > Fortunately, the hyphen has come to the rescue, as in Tracadie-Sheila > (Gloucester). Tracadie is of Mi'kmaq origin and means "camping ground," > while Sheila (pronounced "SHYla" refers to Sheila Foster, an early > resident. Other hyphenated place names are found in all sections of the > province. Some place names lost are still remembered. > > - Bill Hamilton is an historian from Sackville. > > Heather Waddingham > Campobello Parish Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ > My England and Canadian Roots > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=CDNROOTS > Moncton High School Class of 1983 - 25 Year Reunion in August 8-9 2008 > http://home.cogeco.ca/~genbuf/MHS1983.htm > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Yahoo! 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Morning! Just a note to thank you for this article. My grandfather was born in Londonderry in 1873, so looking for anything on Londonderry, and of course my grandfather (Suther Barry). Ruth in California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Waddingham" <hwaddingham@yahoo.com> To: "NB Rootsweb Mailing List" <newbrunswick-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:00 AM Subject: [ NB ] Lost Names in New Brunswick > Morning... > > This article was published in today's (Jan 20, 2007) Telegraph Journal or > Times Transcript. (Not sure which as it is not indicated on the net... I > think it is the Telegraph.) > > Source: > Bill Hamilton > Published Saturday January 20th, 2007 > Appeared on page A6 > > > Aside from cultural interest, place names shed light on the evolution of a > community, county or province. A check of old maps, directories and > gazetteers reveals that a considerable number of New Brunswick place names > have disappeared. Although technically "off the map," they remain > important because of the insight they provide regarding settlement > patterns. > > Londonderry, located on the old Shepody Road in Kings County, is one such > community. As the name implies, it was first settled by immigrants from > Ulster in Northern Ireland. Today little remains, as the forest has > encroached on the land. The exception is St. Paul's Anglican Church, > consecrated in 1857 by Bishop John Medley (1804-92). Described as "a neat > Norman structure consisting of a tower, nave and chancel of pleasing > proportions," it served the community until 1925 when regular services > ended. > > After a period of neglect, the structure was refurbished in 1960. Since > then, services have been held each summer to mark the history of the > community. Just last month, the church was the setting for a special > Advent candlelight service. The congregation of some 100 people included > one person who had been baptized in the church in 1922. > > Second Westcock Hill in Westmorland County has a similar story. It was > settled around 1850 by homesteaders from nearby Westcock and Sackville. As > with Londonderry, the attraction was lumbering. Westcock, for whom it was > named, is traceable to the Mi'kmaq Oakshaak, of unknown meaning. Although > there is a Westcock in Surrey, England, it has no connection with New > Brunswick. The Mi'kmaq version was adopted by the French, who filtered it > through their language as Ouskak. Later, following English occupation, it > evolved as Westcock. > > The last surviving building in the community was St. Stephen's Anglican > Church, torn down in 1925. The first rector was Rev. G.G. Roberts, father > of Sir Charles G.D. Roberts (1860-1943), the prominent poet and novelist. > Second Westcock Hill was later featured in his works. > > Roberts the younger described St. Stephen's as "a quaint and old fashioned > church. The shingles were grey with the beating of many winters; its > square tower surmounted by four spindling posts, like legs of a table > turned heavenward. Down the long slope below the church, straggled the > village, half lost in the snow, and whistled over by the winds of the Bay > of Fundy." > > Today, the only reminder of Second Westcock Hill, beyond a place name and > the whistling wind, is a superb view of Shepody Bay and Mountain with > Grindstone Island in the foreground. > > In the 19th century there were three New Brunswick communities named > Skedaddle Ridge: two in York County and one in Carleton. All had the same > origin. During the American Civil War (1861-65), isolated areas of the > province became a haven for the first American draft dodgers. The American > Dictionary of Slang (1864) defined "skedaddle" as a "disorderly retreat - > probably set afloat by some professor at Harvard." Of the three, only the > last mentioned, located southeast of Knowlesville, is on contemporary > maps. > > Other ghost communities may be found throughout the province. Many > resulted from bad choices by land-hungry immigrants in the 19th century. > Some settlers came as a result of the Scottish Highland Clearances and the > Irish Potato Famine. Established on land ill suited for agriculture, > scores were later abandoned. > > The disappearance of place names was not to cease in the 20th century. In > 1953, a large section of Queens County, west of the St. John River, along > with a smaller part of Sunbury County, was expropriated for the > construction of CFB Gagetown. In all, between 2,000 and 3,000 people were > obliged to leave their homes. Some 25 communities were lost. In August > 2003, a special 50th anniversary celebration was sponsored by the Base > Gagetown Community Historical Association. > > Major projects, such as the construction of the Mactaquac Dam in the > 1960s, have also taken a toll of place names. The descriptive Snowshoe > Islands was obliterated. According to legend, the Mi'kmaq god Glooscap > dropped his snowshoes here when he encountered an early spring. Later, the > legend and name was transferred to nearby Snowshoe Cove. Mactaquac, first > applied to Mactaquac Stream, is of Maliseet origin and was translated by > the late historian William F. Ganong as "big branch," a possible reference > to its relationship to the St. John River. > > On the positive side, two new/old names may be attributed to the Mactaquac > development: Kings Landing and Nackawic. Kings Landing was selected as an > appropriate designation for a historical village depicting life on the > central St. John River during the period 1780-1870. Almost all of the > structures were moved to the new site from flooded communities. The result > has been an unqualified success. Kings Landing now ranks as one of the > most visited tourist attractions in the province. > > As for Nackawic, because about 2,000 people were displaced to create what > became known as Mactaquac Lake, a new town was established midway between > Fredericton and Woodstock. First known as Culliton for an early settler, > an alternate name was suggested by local residents. It was felt that > Nackawic would be more befitting from a historical and geographical > standpoint. This name is traceable to the Maliseet for "straight stream." > Prior to flooding, the Nackawic Stream was in line with the St. John > River. > > Municipal amalgamations have also led to the loss of some place names. > Fortunately, the hyphen has come to the rescue, as in Tracadie-Sheila > (Gloucester). Tracadie is of Mi'kmaq origin and means "camping ground," > while Sheila (pronounced "SHYla" refers to Sheila Foster, an early > resident. Other hyphenated place names are found in all sections of the > province. Some place names lost are still remembered. > > - Bill Hamilton is an historian from Sackville. > > Heather Waddingham > Campobello Parish Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ > My England and Canadian Roots > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=CDNROOTS > Moncton High School Class of 1983 - 25 Year Reunion in August 8-9 2008 > http://home.cogeco.ca/~genbuf/MHS1983.htm > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Yahoo! 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Morning... This article was published in today's (Jan 20, 2007) Telegraph Journal or Times Transcript. (Not sure which as it is not indicated on the net... I think it is the Telegraph.) Source: Bill Hamilton Published Saturday January 20th, 2007 Appeared on page A6 Aside from cultural interest, place names shed light on the evolution of a community, county or province. A check of old maps, directories and gazetteers reveals that a considerable number of New Brunswick place names have disappeared. Although technically "off the map," they remain important because of the insight they provide regarding settlement patterns. Londonderry, located on the old Shepody Road in Kings County, is one such community. As the name implies, it was first settled by immigrants from Ulster in Northern Ireland. Today little remains, as the forest has encroached on the land. The exception is St. Paul's Anglican Church, consecrated in 1857 by Bishop John Medley (1804-92). Described as "a neat Norman structure consisting of a tower, nave and chancel of pleasing proportions," it served the community until 1925 when regular services ended. After a period of neglect, the structure was refurbished in 1960. Since then, services have been held each summer to mark the history of the community. Just last month, the church was the setting for a special Advent candlelight service. The congregation of some 100 people included one person who had been baptized in the church in 1922. Second Westcock Hill in Westmorland County has a similar story. It was settled around 1850 by homesteaders from nearby Westcock and Sackville. As with Londonderry, the attraction was lumbering. Westcock, for whom it was named, is traceable to the Mi'kmaq Oakshaak, of unknown meaning. Although there is a Westcock in Surrey, England, it has no connection with New Brunswick. The Mi'kmaq version was adopted by the French, who filtered it through their language as Ouskak. Later, following English occupation, it evolved as Westcock. The last surviving building in the community was St. Stephen's Anglican Church, torn down in 1925. The first rector was Rev. G.G. Roberts, father of Sir Charles G.D. Roberts (1860-1943), the prominent poet and novelist. Second Westcock Hill was later featured in his works. Roberts the younger described St. Stephen's as "a quaint and old fashioned church. The shingles were grey with the beating of many winters; its square tower surmounted by four spindling posts, like legs of a table turned heavenward. Down the long slope below the church, straggled the village, half lost in the snow, and whistled over by the winds of the Bay of Fundy." Today, the only reminder of Second Westcock Hill, beyond a place name and the whistling wind, is a superb view of Shepody Bay and Mountain with Grindstone Island in the foreground. In the 19th century there were three New Brunswick communities named Skedaddle Ridge: two in York County and one in Carleton. All had the same origin. During the American Civil War (1861-65), isolated areas of the province became a haven for the first American draft dodgers. The American Dictionary of Slang (1864) defined "skedaddle" as a "disorderly retreat - probably set afloat by some professor at Harvard." Of the three, only the last mentioned, located southeast of Knowlesville, is on contemporary maps. Other ghost communities may be found throughout the province. Many resulted from bad choices by land-hungry immigrants in the 19th century. Some settlers came as a result of the Scottish Highland Clearances and the Irish Potato Famine. Established on land ill suited for agriculture, scores were later abandoned. The disappearance of place names was not to cease in the 20th century. In 1953, a large section of Queens County, west of the St. John River, along with a smaller part of Sunbury County, was expropriated for the construction of CFB Gagetown. In all, between 2,000 and 3,000 people were obliged to leave their homes. Some 25 communities were lost. In August 2003, a special 50th anniversary celebration was sponsored by the Base Gagetown Community Historical Association. Major projects, such as the construction of the Mactaquac Dam in the 1960s, have also taken a toll of place names. The descriptive Snowshoe Islands was obliterated. According to legend, the Mi'kmaq god Glooscap dropped his snowshoes here when he encountered an early spring. Later, the legend and name was transferred to nearby Snowshoe Cove. Mactaquac, first applied to Mactaquac Stream, is of Maliseet origin and was translated by the late historian William F. Ganong as "big branch," a possible reference to its relationship to the St. John River. On the positive side, two new/old names may be attributed to the Mactaquac development: Kings Landing and Nackawic. Kings Landing was selected as an appropriate designation for a historical village depicting life on the central St. John River during the period 1780-1870. Almost all of the structures were moved to the new site from flooded communities. The result has been an unqualified success. Kings Landing now ranks as one of the most visited tourist attractions in the province. As for Nackawic, because about 2,000 people were displaced to create what became known as Mactaquac Lake, a new town was established midway between Fredericton and Woodstock. First known as Culliton for an early settler, an alternate name was suggested by local residents. It was felt that Nackawic would be more befitting from a historical and geographical standpoint. This name is traceable to the Maliseet for "straight stream." Prior to flooding, the Nackawic Stream was in line with the St. John River. Municipal amalgamations have also led to the loss of some place names. Fortunately, the hyphen has come to the rescue, as in Tracadie-Sheila (Gloucester). Tracadie is of Mi'kmaq origin and means "camping ground," while Sheila (pronounced "SHYla" refers to Sheila Foster, an early resident. Other hyphenated place names are found in all sections of the province. Some place names lost are still remembered. - Bill Hamilton is an historian from Sackville. Heather Waddingham Campobello Parish Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ My England and Canadian Roots http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=CDNROOTS Moncton High School Class of 1983 - 25 Year Reunion in August 8-9 2008 http://home.cogeco.ca/~genbuf/MHS1983.htm ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367

Marilyn: The Highland Clearances is one book of several written on the history of Scotland, also, Glencoe & Culloden to name just a few books written by John Prebble, they are all well index and a history book that you will not be able to lay down for long. Gerry MF > This was very interesting. Can anyone tell me about the Scotish Highland > Clearances which resulted in an exodus in the 19th century (which you > mentioned)? Marilyn C. > Subject: [ NB ] Lost Names in New Brunswick > > > > Morning... > > > > This article was published in today's (Jan 20, 2007) Telegraph Journal or > > Times Transcript. (Not sure which as it is not indicated on the net... I > > think it is the Telegraph.) > > > > Source: > > Bill Hamilton > > Published Saturday January 20th, 2007 > > Appeared on page A6 > > > > > > Aside from cultural interest, place names shed light on the evolution of a > > community, county or province. A check of old maps, directories and > > gazetteers reveals that a considerable number of New Brunswick place names > > have disappeared. Although technically "off the map," they remain > > important because of the insight they provide regarding settlement > > patterns. > > > > Londonderry, located on the old Shepody Road in Kings County, is one such > > community. As the name implies, it was first settled by immigrants from > > Ulster in Northern Ireland. Today little remains, as the forest has > > encroached on the land. The exception is St. Paul's Anglican Church, > > consecrated in 1857 by Bishop John Medley (1804-92). Described as "a neat > > Norman structure consisting of a tower, nave and chancel of pleasing > > proportions," it served the community until 1925 when regular services > > ended. > > > > After a period of neglect, the structure was refurbished in 1960. Since > > then, services have been held each summer to mark the history of the > > community. Just last month, the church was the setting for a special > > Advent candlelight service. The congregation of some 100 people included > > one person who had been baptized in the church in 1922. > > > > Second Westcock Hill in Westmorland County has a similar story. It was > > settled around 1850 by homesteaders from nearby Westcock and Sackville. As > > with Londonderry, the attraction was lumbering. Westcock, for whom it was > > named, is traceable to the Mi'kmaq Oakshaak, of unknown meaning. Although > > there is a Westcock in Surrey, England, it has no connection with New > > Brunswick. The Mi'kmaq version was adopted by the French, who filtered it > > through their language as Ouskak. Later, following English occupation, it > > evolved as Westcock. > > > > The last surviving building in the community was St. Stephen's Anglican > > Church, torn down in 1925. The first rector was Rev. G.G. Roberts, father > > of Sir Charles G.D. Roberts (1860-1943), the prominent poet and novelist. > > Second Westcock Hill was later featured in his works. > > > > Roberts the younger described St. Stephen's as "a quaint and old fashioned > > church. The shingles were grey with the beating of many winters; its > > square tower surmounted by four spindling posts, like legs of a table > > turned heavenward. Down the long slope below the church, straggled the > > village, half lost in the snow, and whistled over by the winds of the Bay > > of Fundy." > > > > Today, the only reminder of Second Westcock Hill, beyond a place name and > > the whistling wind, is a superb view of Shepody Bay and Mountain with > > Grindstone Island in the foreground. > > > > In the 19th century there were three New Brunswick communities named > > Skedaddle Ridge: two in York County and one in Carleton. All had the same > > origin. During the American Civil War (1861-65), isolated areas of the > > province became a haven for the first American draft dodgers. The American > > Dictionary of Slang (1864) defined "skedaddle" as a "disorderly retreat - > > probably set afloat by some professor at Harvard." Of the three, only the > > last mentioned, located southeast of Knowlesville, is on contemporary > > maps. > > > > Other ghost communities may be found throughout the province. Many > > resulted from bad choices by land-hungry immigrants in the 19th century. > > Some settlers came as a result of the Scottish Highland Clearances and the > > Irish Potato Famine. Established on land ill suited for agriculture, > > scores were later abandoned. > > > > The disappearance of place names was not to cease in the 20th century. In > > 1953, a large section of Queens County, west of the St. John River, along > > with a smaller part of Sunbury County, was expropriated for the > > construction of CFB Gagetown. In all, between 2,000 and 3,000 people were > > obliged to leave their homes. Some 25 communities were lost. In August > > 2003, a special 50th anniversary celebration was sponsored by the Base > > Gagetown Community Historical Association. > > > > Major projects, such as the construction of the Mactaquac Dam in the > > 1960s, have also taken a toll of place names. The descriptive Snowshoe > > Islands was obliterated. According to legend, the Mi'kmaq god Glooscap > > dropped his snowshoes here when he encountered an early spring. Later, the > > legend and name was transferred to nearby Snowshoe Cove. Mactaquac, first > > applied to Mactaquac Stream, is of Maliseet origin and was translated by > > the late historian William F. Ganong as "big branch," a possible reference > > to its relationship to the St. John River. > > > > On the positive side, two new/old names may be attributed to the Mactaquac > > development: Kings Landing and Nackawic. Kings Landing was selected as an > > appropriate designation for a historical village depicting life on the > > central St. John River during the period 1780-1870. Almost all of the > > structures were moved to the new site from flooded communities. The result > > has been an unqualified success. Kings Landing now ranks as one of the > > most visited tourist attractions in the province. > > > > As for Nackawic, because about 2,000 people were displaced to create what > > became known as Mactaquac Lake, a new town was established midway between > > Fredericton and Woodstock. First known as Culliton for an early settler, > > an alternate name was suggested by local residents. It was felt that > > Nackawic would be more befitting from a historical and geographical > > standpoint. This name is traceable to the Maliseet for "straight stream." > > Prior to flooding, the Nackawic Stream was in line with the St. John > > River. > > > > Municipal amalgamations have also led to the loss of some place names. > > Fortunately, the hyphen has come to the rescue, as in Tracadie-Sheila > > (Gloucester). Tracadie is of Mi'kmaq origin and means "camping ground," > > while Sheila (pronounced "SHYla" refers to Sheila Foster, an early > > resident. Other hyphenated place names are found in all sections of the > > province. Some place names lost are still remembered. > > > > - Bill Hamilton is an historian from Sackville. > > > > Heather Waddingham > > Campobello Parish Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ > > My England and Canadian Roots > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=CDNROOTS > > Moncton High School Class of 1983 - 25 Year Reunion in August 8-9 2008 > > http://home.cogeco.ca/~genbuf/MHS1983.htm > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > > in the Yahoo! 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Hi Everyone, I am back at working on my website! I will be starting the next newsletter and would like some contributions, no matter how small. The newsletter involves a lot of work and it is much more interesting when there is input from someone else besides me. Anything you have to add, please send to me by February 15th, as I would like to put the newsletter on the site by March 1st. Also be on the watch for news of the next reunion. This one should be grand as the Municipality has offered to be involved. All ideas welcome! My warmest regards and thank you to all the wonderful support I have had from you through my trying times! Wendy

Shirley, Based on what I've seen documented (this is NOT a high interest line for me), it would appear Ann Darling was born Hannah Dorlandt, in NY (probably around Nassau), she married Cornelis (de) Nice 11-Nov-1781, at Nassau, NY. DORLANDT (from Holland to NY - Long Island/Brooklyn/Nassau) to DURLAND (from NY to NB) to DARLING/DRILLEN/etc in NB I've found Hannah's parents listed as Henry Durland/Dorlandt, b. 10-Sep-1720, Jamaica, NY, and his wife, Sarah Moore, b. @1722). There is more information on the DORLANDT connection on various websites, but if you need more specifics, please let me know. Cheers, Jared > Hi List, > > I'm trying to find the parents of Ann DARLING b. c1760; d. 19 Jun 1826 > Kingston Parish, Kings, NB. She married Cornelius NICE. > > There were Darlings who came in as Loyalists and checking the Raymond > Paddock Gorham records as well as the Land Petitions, > there were a few of them: Benjamin, Michael, Henry and Baytt?? I have > found no information on them... so I'm wondering if they died early, went > back to the US?? Are there some local histories written about them? I > also checked the Loyalist Institute www.royalprovincial com > > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Jared "Jed" Handspicker jedh@jedh.com ------------------------ One Less E-mail To Answer!

For Marilyn Morrow... Marilyn... Checked Ancestry.com and found the following on 1851 census... Roll C-995 Page 45 Line 1 Kings Co., NB Sub District 43 Morrow, Thomas age 40 born Ireland farmer Immigrated 1830 , Margaret age 34 born Ireland , Andrew age 9 born NB , Margaret A. age 7 born NB , Eliza age 5 born NB , Female Infant born NB not named Tried looking at the 1901 census and found some of the children of Thomas & Margaret, but nothing on Eliza Morrow. Based on the above dates, Eliza would have been born approx. 1846 or late 1845. Will check for a marriage record for her. Bev Sumpter -----Original Message----- From: elliojo@nb.sympatico.ca To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Census lookup 1891 please Hi, The 1891 census for Westfield Parish lists the following as the entire household of Thomas Morrow: MORROW Thomas m 79 M - Ireland Ire. Ire. C.E. Farmer Margaret f 70 M W NB " " C.E. William J. m 26 - S " " N.B. " Sorry, but no sign of your Eliza Jane. Regards, John > -----Original Message----- > From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Marilyn Morrow > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:34 PM > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ NB ] Census lookup 1891 please > > > Would SKS do a lookup for me please? > > In 1881, Elizabeth Jane "Eliza" Morrow (b. circa 1845) is > residing with her parents Thomas and Margaret Morrow in > Westfield, Kings County. > > Father died Jan 1895 and mother died 1899, so both should be > present in the 1891 census. Is Eliza still living with them? > > By the date of her death in 1923 Eliza had become Mrs. > Haynes/Haines, but I can't find a record of that marriage, so I'm > trying to narrow the window. Death certificate completed by her > brother says she lived her entire life in N.B., -- perhaps she > did not marry until she was too old to have children? > > Any help greatly appreciated. Marilyn in Vancouver > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Hi List, I'm trying to find the parents of Ann DARLING b. c1760; d. 19 Jun 1826 Kingston Parish, Kings, NB. She married Cornelius NICE. There were Darlings who came in as Loyalists and checking the Raymond Paddock Gorham records as well as the Land Petitions, there were a few of them: Benjamin, Michael, Henry and Baytt?? I have found no information on them... so I'm wondering if they died early, went back to the US?? Are there some local histories written about them? I also checked the Loyalist Institute www.royalprovincial com Shirley

Hello: I believe Mrs. Franklin Gilmore is still living in the family home on the GOLF club road in Fredericton and Franklin's son is on the staff of panb in Fredericton. His name is Robbie. A very nice family all around. Harold __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Perhaps this is your Eliza Jane? Normally they would register death with maiden name but I have found the odd instance where the women's married names were used. Who knows? MACMANUS, Eliza Jane Date: 1933/06/24 County: Kings Registration 66364 Volume 066 Microfilm F18969 NB Archives RS141C5 - Index to Death Certificates Debby

Did you check NB Archives on-line. I found a couple of births to Eliza Jane Morrow, living in Kings County and married to MACMANUS, WILLIAM THOMAS. Birth dates for children were: 1870 and 1881. http://archives.gnb.ca/Archives/Default.aspx?L=EN Debby -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Elliott Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:55 PM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ NB ] Census lookup 1891 please Hi, The 1891 census for Westfield Parish lists the following as the entire household of Thomas Morrow: MORROW Thomas m 79 M - Ireland Ire. Ire. C.E. Farmer Margaret f 70 M W NB " " C.E. William J. m 26 - S " " N.B. " Sorry, but no sign of your Eliza Jane. Regards, John > -----Original Message----- > From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Marilyn Morrow > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:34 PM > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ NB ] Census lookup 1891 please > > > Would SKS do a lookup for me please? > > In 1881, Elizabeth Jane "Eliza" Morrow (b. circa 1845) is > residing with her parents Thomas and Margaret Morrow in > Westfield, Kings County. > > Father died Jan 1895 and mother died 1899, so both should be > present in the 1891 census. Is Eliza still living with them? > > By the date of her death in 1923 Eliza had become Mrs. > Haynes/Haines, but I can't find a record of that marriage, so I'm > trying to narrow the window. Death certificate completed by her > brother says she lived her entire life in N.B., -- perhaps she > did not marry until she was too old to have children? > > Any help greatly appreciated. Marilyn in Vancouver > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, The 1891 census for Westfield Parish lists the following as the entire household of Thomas Morrow: MORROW Thomas m 79 M - Ireland Ire. Ire. C.E. Farmer Margaret f 70 M W NB " " C.E. William J. m 26 - S " " N.B. " Sorry, but no sign of your Eliza Jane. Regards, John > -----Original Message----- > From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Marilyn Morrow > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:34 PM > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ NB ] Census lookup 1891 please > > > Would SKS do a lookup for me please? > > In 1881, Elizabeth Jane "Eliza" Morrow (b. circa 1845) is > residing with her parents Thomas and Margaret Morrow in > Westfield, Kings County. > > Father died Jan 1895 and mother died 1899, so both should be > present in the 1891 census. Is Eliza still living with them? > > By the date of her death in 1923 Eliza had become Mrs. > Haynes/Haines, but I can't find a record of that marriage, so I'm > trying to narrow the window. Death certificate completed by her > brother says she lived her entire life in N.B., -- perhaps she > did not marry until she was too old to have children? > > Any help greatly appreciated. Marilyn in Vancouver > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Regrettably, the only info available is from the US census, which states just "New Brunswick" for place of birth for both James MERRILL and his wife Anne. I collected all of the US census data on this family some years ago from the nearby US National Archives (30 miles is nearby). I Have not been able to locate a death certificate for either of them, and the cemetery records do not give a clue. Jim Roaix

ToWhomItMayInterest: I'v a McGUIRE, possibly from Fermanagh, as follows: PETER HAGGERTY & NANCY McGUIRE: b: HE: Co Donegal, Ireland, (possibly in the Buncrana area N/R), 1808 b: SHE: Ireland, (maybe Co Donegal or Co Fermanagh N/R), 1808 d: HE: Bangor ME USA, 15 January 1881, 74 years old d: SHE: Houlton ME USA, 27 February 1886, 79 years old Little is known of Nancy McGUIRE, the person; she is reported as a "homemaker" in many USA census reports; she had a sister, Mary McGUIRE, who was a sponsor at the bap. of Mary Ann HAGGERTY, Peter & Nancy's first b: . Mary McGUIRE also, as a resident of Fredericton NB, m: James LANDERS, also of Fredericton NB, 15 November 1831, at St Dunstans RCCh, Fredericton NB with Fr Michael McSweeney officiating and Peter HAGGERTY & Mary Flynn as witnesses. Later, the couple migrated to Bangor ME USA. ....... Ed ALL THE BEST, ED & EVELYN COSTELLO e-mail: <Costello13@Juno.Com> Web: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ed1009 COSTELLO: Co Mayo, Ireland; JOYCE: Co Mayo, Ireland HAGGERTY: Co Donegal, Ireland; LAVERTY: Co Armagh, Ireland --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Barney" <ldolaw01@ptd.net> To: <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:46:30 -0500 Subject: Re: FER-GOLD Maguires Swallinbar(Swanlinbar?) Message-ID: <001301c739c0$36f46980$6401a8c0@bernardb75d5tb> References: <20070109003106.JXTI14364.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@hodgson> There may be a connection with my grandfather, Bernard McGuire. Born around 1865 in County Fermanagh. Became a citizen of the U.S. circa 1900. He married Anne Mulhern and had three sons, James, John and Joseph. Although this is not the same Bernard McGuire, he may be connected in some way, even a relative of some of these McGuires. Please let me know more about this site. Thank you. Barney McGuire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hodgson" <gho52976@bigpond.net.au> To: <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:31 PM Subject: FER-GOLD Maguires Swallinbar(Swanlinbar?) > Hi everyone, > > > > Whilst looking for something else I came across a Bernard McGuire who > emigrated to New Zealand in 1865 with his wife(no name given). The > townland > given in his obit was Swallinbar County Fermanagh. The site had quite an > extensive history of this family. If anyone is interested let me know. > > > > Colleen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

on 17/01/2007 09:47 PM, Marilyn Morrow at cammor@axionet.com wrote: > Arnold, where on the panb site is the 1861 census? > Marilyn Oops! My bad. The 1871 census is on-line, not the 1861 list. In anyt event, here is the url for the NB census data: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcarlet/census.htm> Regards, Arnold <><><><><<><><><><><><> Arrowhead Images <aepalmer@a-znet.com> <><><><><<><><><><><><> My family crest is a shield with a crossed knife and fork over a dinner plate.