I am trying to find Crew Agreements (engagement and discharge data) or Log Books for the New Brunswick registered Schooner MAGELLAN, ON86970, 226 tons. She was built at Hopewell New Brunswick in 1882, and originally owned by Council T. Wood. In 1890 the registered owner was George H Irving of Saint John. I am particularly interested in the year 1887 and the seaman Arthur Hayward who was an AB on the MAGELLAN at this time. His previous ship was the LOTTIE STEWART, also registered Saint John, and I have the Crew Agreements for this vessel. The Crew Agreements for the MAGELLAN are not at The National Archives at Kew, nor at the Maritime History Archive in St Johns Newfoundland. I have also tried the Library and Archives of Canada in Ottawa with no success. I would be grateful for any suggestions on where I might be able to find information regarding this vessel. Derek Hayward Dorset UK ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

There is a well-drawn map and history of the boundary disputes that took place in the Upper St. John Valley/Aroostook County area during the early to mid 1800s. You can see how some families lived all their lives in the same house, but depending on the time, sometimes lived in Canada and sometimes lived in Maine/Massachusetts. http://www.upperstjohn.com/history/northeastborder.htm Marilyn

I'd like to know how New Sweden could be a "crossing" when it's nowhere near the U.S./Canada border! Does some misguided soul think that because New Sweden was settled by immigrants from the Scandinavian country of the same name, that it constitutes a "crossing?" Those settlers came across the Atlantic Ocean in 1872 and landed at Saint John, New Brunswick, then journeyed up the Saint John River to where they crossed into the United States at Fort Fairfield, Maine.. They spent their first night in the U.S.A. at Caribou, Maine, twelve miles from the border, then continued northwestward another ten miles or so the next day. That brought them to the area where they settled and established the town of New Sweden. --- CBK LStric3193@aol.com wrote: > New Sweden was also a crossing. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

I have been watching this thread about the various points of entry into the US from Canada, and thought that I remembered someone telling me that regardless of the crossing point, that all records were kept at the St.Albans Vt. list, web site ???? See below........... Edd Sinnett in Florida http://shipslists-online.rootschat.net/usa/saint-albans.html St. Albans Lists FAQ: from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~holdenclan/index.htm What are St. Albans Lists? St. Albans Lists are lists of immigrants who crossed the border from Canada into the U.S. between 1895 and 1954. There is a St. Albans, Vermont. Isn't this just those who crossed the border in St. Alban's, Vermont? No. While they're collectively known as St. Albans, Vermont district records, they also contain records of immigrants crossing over in Washington, Montana, Michigan, New York, North Dakota, and Minnesota, in fact all along the U.S. Canadian border. Do St. Albans Lists index ALL entries into the U.S. through Canada in 1895 until 1954? No. After 1917, anyone entering WEST of the Montana/North Dakota State line were filed in Seattle, Washington. A reader also has this to say: "People of Canadian birth were not recorded on the St. Albans lists until 1906". Are there any lists for people leaving the U.S. and crossing the border into Canada? I'm sorry, again, not that I know of. One reader of this FAQ said that records were kept after 1906 and these records are available in Canada. You could try National Archives of Canada. Prior to 1906, I am not aware of any records. There was no need to keep them. (Read further). Why were St. Albans Lists' records kept? In the beginning there were no border crossing inspectors. Then, as the U.S. government ordered certain requirements for U.S. entry, the government noticed a certain trend. Immigrants realized that they could "bypass" the U.S. inspectors by entering Canada then crossing the border into the U.S. As the U.S. government took notice of the trend, they in turn asked Canada to assist them by requesting documentation. Canada agreed in 1894. What documentation? The steamships crossing the border were to keep a passenger manifest form. Railroads were "to carry only those immigrants who were legally admitted to the United States to U.S. destinations". The U.S. inspectors, stationed along the borders, collected the manifests. Are these records transcribed, or are they the originals? The original records no longer exist. The soundex index was transcribed in the 1930's. I'm not yet positive on how the manifests came to be put on film. Are there any other records in St. Albans Lists? Yes. In 1895 the U.S. inspectors required that those entering the U.S. via Canada through sea ports to obtain a Certificate of Admission after passing a health inspection and quarantine. Railroads required a Certificate of Admission if the passenger arrived in Canada within the previous 30 days. At land border "ports", inspectors prepared the List (or) Manifest of Alien Passengers Applying for Admission to the United States from Foreign Contiguous Territory also called Form 1-Canada. This list refers to two sets of people. The first set are immigrants who may have lived in Canada for months/years prior to entering the U.S. and who came from a nation other than Canada up to October 1, 1906. After October 1, 1906 the list then refers to the second set which then included Canadians in addition to those from another nation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 28 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Thank you to Richard Hardwick for his response. However, it seems that we have different Eric Armstrongs. Wendy Clare

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Hello List, Does anyone have a book which list the early Probated wills of Saint John County? I heard there was a book or list from 1790 - 1900. I would like for someone to please do a look-up for me! Please contact me off the list: F2LeD3154@voyager.net Thank you in advance for any help! Linda Drilling

To Marilyn Morrow: Sorry to send this to the list but it would not go thru using your addie. Just so you're aware your messages are getting dumped in my junk mail instead of going into regular mail with the rest of NB listing. If this is happening to others perhaps your message is not getting out. Hope this helps. Also when I tried to reply I only got the NB addie - I had to go back and copy yours from the message. Ginny

Someone posted that New Sweden was a Border Crossing but. Sorry but New Sweden was a major immigration area but is not and was not a Border town. I know - I live next door to it in Woodland, Maine. Ginny

Fort Fairfield was a major intake area early in this century, the two other major ports would have been Fort Kent and Van Buren with Houlton a maybe. I don't know if any records exists for these ports but the libraries in these towns would be able to steer you in the right direct as would the Family History Center in Caribou, Maine. Don't know if they have a web address. The family History Center address is: Church of Jesus Crhist of LDS 67 Paris Snow Drive Caribou, Maine 04736 Good Luck. Ginny tel: 207-492-4381

Where did your Barteaux live? Rose Staples UE 1080 Route 605 Maple Ridge NB E6E 1W6 roses@nbnet.nb.ca -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hardwick Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:01 PM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ NB ] ERIC LIONEL ARMSTRONG Hi Wendy Who were Eric's wife and parents? What were the boys' names? I have an Eric ARMSTRONG of Sussex, New Brunswick, but unfortunately no other info. Not sure he is your Eric. Richard Hardwick (Researching direct lines in Nova Scotia and New England - HARDWICK, ARMSTRONG, BARTEAUX, SPURR, HENDERSON, BLACKMAR, MARSH) RiHardwick@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wendy01162@aol.com> To: <NEWBRUNSWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: [ NB ] ERIC LIONEL ARMSTRONG > Seeking news of my great grandfather and his daughter Amy Bronwen > Armstrong, > who emigrated to New Brunswick Nov 1912. He was rumoured to have married > again and had twin boys. Eric was a Doctor of Music and taught both > violin and > mandolin and also became a mining engineer. Amy's 1983 death cert was > found > in Victoria, BC. > > Wendy Clare > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would some kind soul with access to the 1891 census for Saint John please look up the family of John Wilson and Catherine (Dunham) Wilson in Musquash? What children are still residing with them? Many thanks. Marilyn in Vancouver

Polly, Records were not kept that early. Such records as do exist are on the Library and Archives Canada [formerly National Archives] website. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "polly shaw" <polly_shaw@verizon.net> To: <NewBrunswick-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: [ NB ] Border Crossing records > Does anyone know whether border crossing records would have been made in > Canada for someone moving from Aroostook Co ME to NB in the 1860 era? > Thanks. -- polly > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know whether border crossing records would have been made in Canada for someone moving from Aroostook Co ME to NB in the 1860 era? Thanks. -- polly

Hi Rose I descend from the Philip BARTEAUX that was of Annapolis Royal (see Calnek) and most of his descendants (not all) were of Annapolis County. However, in my genealogical pursuits, I have also followed John BARTEAUX Sr of Hant's County, and I believe a lot of John's descendants were from Cumberland County and also from New Brunswick. I have plenty of BARTEAUXs from both lines in my notes. I also know that some of the Annapolis County BARTEAUXs migrated to New Brunswick as well. Might you have any knowledge of any link between John and Philip? Might you have any info on an Ambrose BARTEAUX who married Mary Isabella DeVANY (a brick wall.) Thanks for response Richard Hardwick (Researching direct lines in Nova Scotia and New England - HARDWICK, ARMSTRONG, BARTEAUX, SPURR, HENDERSON, BLACKMAR, MARSH) RiHardwick@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Staples" <roses@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] ERIC LIONEL ARMSTRONG > Where did your Barteaux live? > > Rose Staples UE > 1080 Route 605 > Maple Ridge NB > E6E 1W6 > roses@nbnet.nb.ca > > > -----Original Message----- > From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hardwick > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:01 PM > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ NB ] ERIC LIONEL ARMSTRONG > > Hi Wendy > > Who were Eric's wife and parents? What were the boys' names? > > I have an Eric ARMSTRONG of Sussex, New Brunswick, but unfortunately no > other info. Not sure he is your Eric. > > Richard Hardwick > > (Researching direct lines in Nova Scotia and New England - HARDWICK, > ARMSTRONG, BARTEAUX, SPURR, HENDERSON, BLACKMAR, MARSH) > RiHardwick@comcast.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Wendy01162@aol.com> > To: <NEWBRUNSWICK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:08 AM > Subject: [ NB ] ERIC LIONEL ARMSTRONG > > >> Seeking news of my great grandfather and his daughter Amy Bronwen >> Armstrong, >> who emigrated to New Brunswick Nov 1912. He was rumoured to have married >> again and had twin boys. Eric was a Doctor of Music and taught both >> violin and >> mandolin and also became a mining engineer. Amy's 1983 death cert was >> found >> in Victoria, BC. >> >> Wendy Clare >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to the listers, Bill, Marilyn, Mike & Carol, and Jim, for all of the information! Your generosity is greatly appreciated! Marilyn in Vancouver

If you are familiar with New Brunswick and the St. George area, that is where Magaguadavic is. St. George at one time was called Magagadavic!! When it was changed, I don't know?

Hi Marilyn, Brockway, in Manners Sutton Parish, York County, was first called Magaguadavic and renamed ca 1898. At Library & Archives Canada, their Post Office database has two llistings for Magaguadavic. http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/post-offices/001001-100.01-e.php Marilyn Strout ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marilyn Morrow wrote: > but gave her place of birth as Maguaguadavic or Magisaguadivic - can't make out the writing. >

Trying to sort out a birth place as recorded in a Saint John marriage registration. The bride lived in Welford, Queens Co., but gave her place of birth as Maguaguadavic or Magisaguadivic - can't make out the writing. Can a native New Brunswicker help me decipher this please? Marilyn in Vancouver

Marilyn, Magaguadavic was the original name for the Charlotte co., N.B. town of St. George ..Regards, Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Morrow" <cammor@axionet.com> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: [ NB ] Where is "Maguaguadevic"? > Trying to sort out a birth place as recorded in a Saint John marriage registration. The bride lived in Welford, Queens Co., but gave her place of birth as Maguaguadavic or Magisaguadivic - can't make out the writing. Can a native New Brunswicker help me decipher this please? > Marilyn in Vancouver > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >