Thanks to everyone who replied to my inquiry. I deleted one E-Mail by mistake. A lady mentioned in a reply that a person of her knowledge name Cleadie ? had info on this family. If her address is available please resend. Thanks, mike

Am trying to find my GG gf's sister, a female ROBBINS who would have been born abt 1795 - 1820. She married a NUTTER and her name may have been Lucy ROBBINS. She may have been from Deer Isle in Hancock Co, coastal areas in Washington Co, or Campobello, NB. If you know of a NUTTER whose wife was a ROBBINS and they were m from abt 1810 - 1840, please contact me. Most grateful for any additions, corrections, or help. Janice ROBBINS FREEMAN

Not to qibble, but the federal railway was always a "Crown Corporation," from the day it went into service between Truro and Moncton in November of 1872 as the Intercolonial Railway. Also, service at that time for railway men would have included the Northwest Rebellion and the Boer War. The citation from the Home Office in Whitehall reads: "I am commanded by the King to transmit to you herewith an Imperial Service Medal in recognition of your meritorious service as an officer in the Department of Railways and Canals (Home town stated)and I am to request that you will acknowledge the receipt of the decoration and and will sign the acknowledgement with your Christian names in full." Signed by the Secretary of the Imperial Service Order. Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS > > From: "Dan MacDonald" <brikwall@nbnet.nb.ca> > Date: 2007/05/12 Sat PM 08:54:22 EDT > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > > I would agree with you, if this medal had indeed been awarded for WAR service. It was not. > > It was awarded for 25 years of long service and good conduct in the CIVIL SERVICE. Military service, or any type of service on the home front in time of war, had nothing to do with this medal or its award. > > I believe it was first awarded in 1911, and awards to Canadians continued into the reign of George VI (1936-1952). Awards to British government employees continues to this day. > > The only distinction that's made for recipients is that time of service was reduced to either 15 or 20 years (I don't recall which) for civil servants who served in the colonies (ie: Africa, India - service in Canada did not count towards the reduced time). > > Also, railway employees were not the only people receiving it (and they only started receiving it after the railway became a Crown Corporation). It could be given to anyone from customs workers to ferry deckhands to Ottawa beancounters, as long as they worked for the Crown (federal government) for the required amount of time. It was actually a fairly common award. It's just that, in the Maritimes, the majority of recipients happened to be railway employees. > > Besides, what was laughable was neither the award nor the conditions behind it but the fact that a common award for lower-tier government employees was written up as a "distinguished honour from the King." Embellishment, to say the least. > > Regards, > > Dan MacDonald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jp.underwood@ns.sympatico.ca > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:10 PM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > > > I think it would be wrong to dismiss the medal awarded to railway men for their service during the First World War as "laughable". As I note in my last book "Built For War: Canada's Intercolonial Railway" (Railfare-DC Books, Montreal) after the "submarine scare" in the Gulf of St. Lawrence effectively ended convoys out of Quebec City, the line between Levis, Que. and Halifax became the main artery of the Canadian war effort, and the employees - including the shop men at Moncton - worked long hours to ensure nothing intrerrupted that traffic, including the return trips for the wounded and repatriated soldiers. > I think the medal serves as a reminder that war can be "he--" on the homefront too, and they also served who stayed and worked the line! > Jay Underwood > Elmsdale NS > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >From Railfare-DC Books: http://www.railfare.net/From%20Folly%20to%20Fortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: http://www.nsrwyhalloffame.com/ Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/

Hi, There was recently a post looking for the LOGAN family from Straight SHore, Portland ( Saint John) NB. I think the poster was the same lady who posted on the Rootsweb message boards and for some reason they are having technical problems and I couldn't post my answer to her so I hope she reads this. Hi Audrey, Alexander LOGAN and his family are buried in the Old Cedar Hill Cemetery across the river from Straight SHore where they lived. Their stone says.... Alexander E. LOGAN / 1857 - 1933 / Mary A. his wife / 1883-1953 (back) Flarie E. LOGAN / beloved wife of A. E. LOGAN / died May 2, 1889 / Jennie M. LOGAN daughter / died Dec. 9, 1888 / Elizabeth J. LOGAN / beloved wife of A.E. LOGAN / died Dec 14, 1913 / Mary P. LOGAN / beloved wife of A. E. LOGAN / died July 5, 1929. That shows he was married 4 times ! No wonder you are having trouble finding him! Here he is in the 1881 census...His family was #408. I will list the LOGAN families who lived nearby below. Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 81 Family 408 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Alexander Ezekiel LOGAN M M 22 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Florence LOGAN F M 19 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Jennie LOGAN F <1 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Born: Jun; 10/12 Florence would be "Flarie" on the gravestone. Here are the rest of the LOGANS who lived nearby. Note their family number to see how close by they lived..... #410 Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 81 Family 410+ Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Absalom LOGAN M M 27 English New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Agnes LOGAN F M 24 Irish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Archibald LOGAN M 2 English New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Ellen Blanche LOGAN F <1 English New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Born: Jan; 3/12 ------------------------------------------------------------ Family #459 ensus Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 91 Family 459 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Daniel LOGAN M M 38 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Church of England Mary LOGAN F M 35 English New Brunswick Religion: Church of England James LOGAN M 12 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Church of England Mary LOGAN F 9 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Church of England Kate LOGAN F 8 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Church of England David LOGAN M 4 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Church of England Daniel LOGAN M 1 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Church of England -------------------------------------------------------------- These ones lived closer, on the other side of Aleander... #399 Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 80 Family 399 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace William LOGAN M M 59 Irish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Martha Elizabeth LOGAN F M 37 Dutch New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist William LOGAN M 14 Irish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Abigail LOGAN M 10 Irish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Frederick LOGAN M 7 Irish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Gertrude LOGAN F <1 Irish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Born: Dec; 4/12 Irene LOGAN F 18 Irish New Brunswick Occ: Servant Religion: Free Will C Baptist ------------------------------------------------------------ #397 Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 79 Family 397 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Edward LOGAN M M 42 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Ann Elizabeth LOGAN F M 36 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Emma Gertrude LOGAN F 16 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Servant Religion: Calvinist Baptist Ruth Ann LOGAN F 13 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Nehemiah LOGAN M 11 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Hannah LOGAN F 9 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Edward LOGAN M 6 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist William Arthur LOGAN M 3 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Walter LOGAN M <1 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Born: Mar; 1/12 ------------------------------------------------------------- #396 Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 79 Family 396 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace John LOGAN M M 55 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Ship Carpenter Religion: Free Will C Baptist Lucinda Jane LOGAN F M 34 Canadian New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist George Anderson LOGAN M 16 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Ship Carpenter Religion: Free Will C Baptist Annie Elizabeth LOGAN F 12 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist Ethel May LOGAN F 10 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist Alice Oleva LOGAN F 6 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist Harriet Lucinda LOGAN F 4 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist ------------------------------------------------------------ #392 Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 78 Family 392 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Charles LOGAN M M 48 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Boat Builder Religion: Calvinist Baptist Marion LOGAN F M 47 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Daniel LOGAN M 25 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Clara LOGAN F 19 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Servant Religion: Calvinist Baptist Charles LOGAN M 18 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Edward LOGAN M 16 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Judson LOGAN M 4 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist --------------------------------------------------------------- #387 Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 78 Family 387 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Nehemiah LOGAN M M 28 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Boat Builder Religion: Calvinist Baptist Catherine LOGAN F M 28 Irish New Brunswick Religion: Presbyterian Canada Nehemiah LOGAN M <1 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Born: Oct; 6/12 -------------------------------------------------------------- #385 Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 77 Family 385+ Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Nehemiah LOGAN M M 52 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Boat Builder Religion: Calvinist Baptist Eleanor LOGAN F M 50 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist William A LOGAN M 24 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Painter Religion: Calvinist Baptist Henry LOGAN M 20 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Calvinist Baptist Alice Maud LOGAN F 9 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist Emma May LOGAN F 8 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Calvinist Baptist ------------------------------------------------------------ #381 ensus Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 76 Family 381 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Alexander LOGAN M M 50 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Free Will C Baptist Abigal Ann LOGAN F M 40 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist Alexander LOGAN M 19 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Labourer In Roll. Mill Religion: Free Will C Baptist Rudolph LOGAN M 17 Scottish New Brunswick Occ: Fisherman Religion: Free Will C Baptist Edith Augusta LOGAN F 14 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist Nelson TORONSELL M 12 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist Effie Gertrude LOGAN F 9 Scottish New Brunswick Religion: Free Will C Baptist ------------------------------------------------------------- #372 Census Place: Ward No. 2, Portland, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375815 NAC C-13179 Dist 25 SubDist D Page 75 Family 372 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Christina LOGAN F W 39 Irish N. B. <New Brunswick> Religion: Church of England Horatius Henry LOGAN M 21 Irish N. B. <New Brunswick> Occ: Mill Labourer Religion: Church of England George Solomon LOGAN M 19 Irish N. B. <New Brunswick> Occ: Mill Labourer Religion: Church of England Lottie Matilda LOGAN F 25 Irish N. B. <New Brunswick> Occ: Seamstress Religion: Church of England Mary LOGAN F 13 Irish N. B. <New Brunswick> Occ: Factory Hand Religion: Church of England Margaret LOGAN F 10 Irish N. B. <New Brunswick> Occ: Factory Hand Religion: Church of England ----------------------------------------------------------- So I don't know any relationships but these families are likely related in some way. Hope this helps, Suzanne Carter

I would agree with you, if this medal had indeed been awarded for WAR service. It was not. It was awarded for 25 years of long service and good conduct in the CIVIL SERVICE. Military service, or any type of service on the home front in time of war, had nothing to do with this medal or its award. I believe it was first awarded in 1911, and awards to Canadians continued into the reign of George VI (1936-1952). Awards to British government employees continues to this day. The only distinction that's made for recipients is that time of service was reduced to either 15 or 20 years (I don't recall which) for civil servants who served in the colonies (ie: Africa, India - service in Canada did not count towards the reduced time). Also, railway employees were not the only people receiving it (and they only started receiving it after the railway became a Crown Corporation). It could be given to anyone from customs workers to ferry deckhands to Ottawa beancounters, as long as they worked for the Crown (federal government) for the required amount of time. It was actually a fairly common award. It's just that, in the Maritimes, the majority of recipients happened to be railway employees. Besides, what was laughable was neither the award nor the conditions behind it but the fact that a common award for lower-tier government employees was written up as a "distinguished honour from the King." Embellishment, to say the least. Regards, Dan MacDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: jp.underwood@ns.sympatico.ca To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? I think it would be wrong to dismiss the medal awarded to railway men for their service during the First World War as "laughable". As I note in my last book "Built For War: Canada's Intercolonial Railway" (Railfare-DC Books, Montreal) after the "submarine scare" in the Gulf of St. Lawrence effectively ended convoys out of Quebec City, the line between Levis, Que. and Halifax became the main artery of the Canadian war effort, and the employees - including the shop men at Moncton - worked long hours to ensure nothing intrerrupted that traffic, including the return trips for the wounded and repatriated soldiers. I think the medal serves as a reminder that war can be "he--" on the homefront too, and they also served who stayed and worked the line! Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS

I think it would be wrong to dismiss the medal awarded to railway men for their service during the First World War as "laughable". As I note in my last book "Built For War: Canada's Intercolonial Railway" (Railfare-DC Books, Montreal) after the "submarine scare" in the Gulf of St. Lawrence effectively ended convoys out of Quebec City, the line between Levis, Que. and Halifax became the main artery of the Canadian war effort, and the employees - including the shop men at Moncton - worked long hours to ensure nothing intrerrupted that traffic, including the return trips for the wounded and repatriated soldiers. I think the medal serves as a reminder that war can be "he--" on the homefront too, and they also served who stayed and worked the line! Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS > > From: "Dan MacDonald" <brikwall@nbnet.nb.ca> > Date: 2007/05/12 Sat AM 08:31:04 EDT > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > > Are you looking for recipients of the Imperial Service Order or the Imperial Service Medal? Two different classes of awards which were treated quite differently. > > Recipients of the Imperial Service Order would likely be found in the Royal Gazette, although I'm not certain of that. > > As far as I know, there was no formal listing of Imperial Service Medal recipients. However, local newspapers often published the lists at time of award. > > The Imperial Service Medal was, I believe, granted to civil servants and other government employees for 25 years of service. In Canada, because the railways ended up being government-owned, many railroad employees were entitled to receive this medal. In the Maritimes, therefore, the largest number of recipients were amongst railroad employees. > > I had a laugh once during correspondence with a distant relative from the States. Her grandfather had been a railway employee in Moncton. His daughter (my correspondent's mother) married a fairly well-off New Englander and became rather adept at finding ways to demonstrate or improve upon their social status. Her mother wrote in her memoirs that her father had been "decorated by the King for services to the nation." In fact, he was a foreman at the ICR shops in Moncton and had, like many of his fellow employees - brakemen, conductors, engineers, coal-shovellers and mechanics - received the Imperial Service Medal for 25 years of service. So much for the Royal honours! > > Regards, > > Dan MacDonald > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: TOlfert > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:51 PM > Subject: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > > > Hi List, > > Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who received the Imperial Service Order Medal? > > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >From Railfare-DC Books: http://www.railfare.net/From%20Folly%20to%20Fortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: http://www.nsrwyhalloffame.com/ Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/

Jay... that would be just great... thank you. S. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jp.underwood@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > Shirley: I can end you a photo of the Imperail Service Medal, as awarded > to a railwayman, if you wish. > Jay Underwood > Elmsdale NS >> >> From: "TOlfert" <conolf@telus.net> >> Date: 2007/05/12 Sat AM 09:37:01 EDT >> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where >> found? >> >> Dan... you totally answered my question. Much appreciated. >> >> Shirley >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dan MacDonald" <brikwall@nbnet.nb.ca> >> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where >> found? >> >> >> > Are you looking for recipients of the Imperial Service Order or the >> > Imperial Service Medal? Two different classes of awards which were >> > treated >> > quite differently. >> > >> > Recipients of the Imperial Service Order would likely be found in the >> > Royal Gazette, although I'm not certain of that. >> > >> > As far as I know, there was no formal listing of Imperial Service Medal >> > recipients. However, local newspapers often published the lists at time >> > of >> > award. >> > >> > The Imperial Service Medal was, I believe, granted to civil servants >> > and >> > other government employees for 25 years of service. In Canada, because >> > the >> > railways ended up being government-owned, many railroad employees were >> > entitled to receive this medal. In the Maritimes, therefore, the >> > largest >> > number of recipients were amongst railroad employees. >> > >> > I had a laugh once during correspondence with a distant relative from >> > the >> > States. Her grandfather had been a railway employee in Moncton. His >> > daughter (my correspondent's mother) married a fairly well-off New >> > Englander and became rather adept at finding ways to demonstrate or >> > improve upon their social status. Her mother wrote in her memoirs that >> > her >> > father had been "decorated by the King for services to the nation." In >> > fact, he was a foreman at the ICR shops in Moncton and had, like many >> > of >> > his fellow employees - brakemen, conductors, engineers, coal-shovellers >> > and mechanics - received the Imperial Service Medal for 25 years of >> > service. So much for the Royal honours! >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Dan MacDonald >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: TOlfert >> > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:51 PM >> > Subject: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? >> > >> > >> > Hi List, >> > >> > Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who >> > received the Imperial Service Order Medal? >> > >> > Shirley >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >>From Railfare-DC Books: > http://www.railfare.net/From%20Folly%20to%20Fortune.html > http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > http://www.nsrwyhalloffame.com/ > Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shirley: I can end you a photo of the Imperail Service Medal, as awarded to a railwayman, if you wish. Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS > > From: "TOlfert" <conolf@telus.net> > Date: 2007/05/12 Sat AM 09:37:01 EDT > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > > Dan... you totally answered my question. Much appreciated. > > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan MacDonald" <brikwall@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > > > > Are you looking for recipients of the Imperial Service Order or the > > Imperial Service Medal? Two different classes of awards which were treated > > quite differently. > > > > Recipients of the Imperial Service Order would likely be found in the > > Royal Gazette, although I'm not certain of that. > > > > As far as I know, there was no formal listing of Imperial Service Medal > > recipients. However, local newspapers often published the lists at time of > > award. > > > > The Imperial Service Medal was, I believe, granted to civil servants and > > other government employees for 25 years of service. In Canada, because the > > railways ended up being government-owned, many railroad employees were > > entitled to receive this medal. In the Maritimes, therefore, the largest > > number of recipients were amongst railroad employees. > > > > I had a laugh once during correspondence with a distant relative from the > > States. Her grandfather had been a railway employee in Moncton. His > > daughter (my correspondent's mother) married a fairly well-off New > > Englander and became rather adept at finding ways to demonstrate or > > improve upon their social status. Her mother wrote in her memoirs that her > > father had been "decorated by the King for services to the nation." In > > fact, he was a foreman at the ICR shops in Moncton and had, like many of > > his fellow employees - brakemen, conductors, engineers, coal-shovellers > > and mechanics - received the Imperial Service Medal for 25 years of > > service. So much for the Royal honours! > > > > Regards, > > > > Dan MacDonald > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: TOlfert > > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:51 PM > > Subject: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who > > received the Imperial Service Order Medal? > > > > Shirley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >From Railfare-DC Books: http://www.railfare.net/From%20Folly%20to%20Fortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: http://www.nsrwyhalloffame.com/ Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/

Are you looking for recipients of the Imperial Service Order or the Imperial Service Medal? Two different classes of awards which were treated quite differently. Recipients of the Imperial Service Order would likely be found in the Royal Gazette, although I'm not certain of that. As far as I know, there was no formal listing of Imperial Service Medal recipients. However, local newspapers often published the lists at time of award. The Imperial Service Medal was, I believe, granted to civil servants and other government employees for 25 years of service. In Canada, because the railways ended up being government-owned, many railroad employees were entitled to receive this medal. In the Maritimes, therefore, the largest number of recipients were amongst railroad employees. I had a laugh once during correspondence with a distant relative from the States. Her grandfather had been a railway employee in Moncton. His daughter (my correspondent's mother) married a fairly well-off New Englander and became rather adept at finding ways to demonstrate or improve upon their social status. Her mother wrote in her memoirs that her father had been "decorated by the King for services to the nation." In fact, he was a foreman at the ICR shops in Moncton and had, like many of his fellow employees - brakemen, conductors, engineers, coal-shovellers and mechanics - received the Imperial Service Medal for 25 years of service. So much for the Royal honours! Regards, Dan MacDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: TOlfert To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? Hi List, Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who received the Imperial Service Order Medal? Shirley

Dan... you totally answered my question. Much appreciated. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan MacDonald" <brikwall@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > Are you looking for recipients of the Imperial Service Order or the > Imperial Service Medal? Two different classes of awards which were treated > quite differently. > > Recipients of the Imperial Service Order would likely be found in the > Royal Gazette, although I'm not certain of that. > > As far as I know, there was no formal listing of Imperial Service Medal > recipients. However, local newspapers often published the lists at time of > award. > > The Imperial Service Medal was, I believe, granted to civil servants and > other government employees for 25 years of service. In Canada, because the > railways ended up being government-owned, many railroad employees were > entitled to receive this medal. In the Maritimes, therefore, the largest > number of recipients were amongst railroad employees. > > I had a laugh once during correspondence with a distant relative from the > States. Her grandfather had been a railway employee in Moncton. His > daughter (my correspondent's mother) married a fairly well-off New > Englander and became rather adept at finding ways to demonstrate or > improve upon their social status. Her mother wrote in her memoirs that her > father had been "decorated by the King for services to the nation." In > fact, he was a foreman at the ICR shops in Moncton and had, like many of > his fellow employees - brakemen, conductors, engineers, coal-shovellers > and mechanics - received the Imperial Service Medal for 25 years of > service. So much for the Royal honours! > > Regards, > > Dan MacDonald > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: TOlfert > To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:51 PM > Subject: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? > > > Hi List, > > Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who > received the Imperial Service Order Medal? > > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My earlier post was more along the lines of what the medal was whereas this post ah as its focus those to whom the medal was awarded. More particularly try the following specific website < http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/download.asp?docid=947280 > Or the more general < http://www.honours.gov.uk/lists.aspx > For honours awarded before 2003 (1752-1998) I would suggest consulting the London Gazette website at < http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/generalArchive.asp?webType=0 > Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gbooth@magma.ca Sent: May 12, 2007 7:02 AM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? Try < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Service_Order > Or < http://www.answers.com/topic/imperial-service-order > Or < http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/united-kingdom028.htm > Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TOlfert Sent: May 11, 2007 9:52 PM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? Hi List, Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who received the Imperial Service Order Medal? Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Service_Order > Or < http://www.answers.com/topic/imperial-service-order > Or < http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/united-kingdom028.htm > Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TOlfert Sent: May 11, 2007 9:52 PM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? Hi List, Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who received the Imperial Service Order Medal? Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gordon... thanks so much.. I'll follow up. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: <gbooth@magma.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? My earlier post was more along the lines of what the medal was whereas this post ah as its focus those to whom the medal was awarded. More particularly try the following specific website < http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/download.asp?docid=947280 > Or the more general < http://www.honours.gov.uk/lists.aspx > For honours awarded before 2003 (1752-1998) I would suggest consulting the London Gazette website at < http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/generalArchive.asp?webType=0 > Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gbooth@magma.ca Sent: May 12, 2007 7:02 AM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? Try < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Service_Order > Or < http://www.answers.com/topic/imperial-service-order > Or < http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/united-kingdom028.htm > Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TOlfert Sent: May 11, 2007 9:52 PM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: [ NB ] Imperial Service Order Medal - recipients where found? Hi List, Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who received the Imperial Service Order Medal? Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They history of Logan Brother,Shipbuilders & their slip in the cove at Indiantown in the area of the Saint John Power Boat Club Looking for information about the ship/boat builting business that the Logan brothers had at Indiantown. Especially in the 20s and early 30s.f.ex. Boats they built, measurements, Company's history. If ane one has good reading material for this time in Indiantown or Portland might you pass the titles on to me. Also pictures. Help will be very appreciated. Pat patalnes@online.no

Hi Marilyn Both men were born about 1840 in Ireland. First found in 1871 Sunbury census. Not found in the 1851 census for Sunbury. I am aware of the Nelson, Robert and Newton Guthrie's of Charlotte County. I cannot see any particular relationship EXCEPT they each had sons called Percy. I could only back them up to the 1881 census for these Charlotte County men, so I don't know if William and James were in Charlotte early on, before removing to Sunbury. Any ideas? Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte County To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] James Guthrie, William Guthrie Sarah, About what time frame are you talking? late 1700s, 1800-1850, late 1800s, early 1900s? Marilyn sara5d wrote: > I'm looking for further information on James Guthrie and William Guthrie, > born in Ireland, resided in Sunbury County. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, Would anyone happen to know where the information may be found on who received the Imperial Service Order Medal? Shirley

Hi Folks, Just came across two projects that Canada GenWeb has that may be of interest to list members. Immigrants to Canada http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/projects/immigrantslist/ Canada Family Bibles http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/projects/familybibles/index.html Marilyn

Sarah, About what time frame are you talking? late 1700s, 1800-1850, late 1800s, early 1900s? Marilyn sara5d wrote: > I'm looking for further information on James Guthrie and William Guthrie, > born in Ireland, resided in Sunbury County.

Who were the parents of Patrick A. Hughes and Mary Beatrice Snelgrove who were married in Saint John, N.B., 4 August 1945. Did they have any children? Is this Mary the daughter of Peter Snelgrove of Albert County? Gerry MF

Don, Thanks for responding. Yes this is my uncle and I have his headstone photo and obituary. Problem is I don't have an address for his home. He also worked for a time in the lumber mill at Chipman - any idea how I could find them - my searching has come up blank - perhaps the mill no longer exists?? Is there some sort of historical body or local library for the area? Ruth in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "DONALD" <dderwin@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address > Hi Ruth if this is John Hart McKenzie > b/1909 d/1993 buried in > Cunberland Bay > United Church,Queens Co > no number for this church ,but there is one for United Church in Chipman > wich is very close to Cumberland Bay > numbers 506-339-6827 > 506-339-6626 > they might be abel to help you with a picture Good Luck Don in NB > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ruth" <rco89791@bigpond.net.au> > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:43 AM > Subject: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address > > >> HI, >> >> Would anyone know where I can find out my uncle John McKenzie's actual >> house address in Cumberland Bay? He lived there until being admitted to >> a >> nursing home following a stroke and I would dearly love a photo of his >> house for family records. >> >> He emigrated to Canada as a boy in 1924 and died in 1993. He lived around >> the area for fifty years or so. >> >> Any guidance much appreciated. >> >> Ruth in Sydney >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >