My great uncle was of Scottish descent and his response when I asked if we were related to someone was, "we all walked through the same pasture." I assumed that he meant that we might have been related distantly. Kendra (in Boston) At 04:09 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote: >What is it that the Scots say -- "we're all Jock Tamsen's bairns"?? >Marilyn in Vancouver

While I have been actively searching for a large Jewish Webber family in St. John and Halifax who married into my family, I myself had my father do a Y-male DNA test several years back. As his father was a Levite, we now have learned that we do not match the usual Hebrew Levite group. But because we are such a large group of Levites, the DNA experts now believe that we descend from King Bulan of Khazaria (The Khazars) who converted to Judaism in 750 AD. All his subject became Israelites, but his sons and their sons and on and on were Levites to distinguish them from the others. So now, I am a Jewish American Princess! How's that for fabulous genetics! Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Tufts Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:50 PM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com; ns roots; Lunen Links Subject: [ NB ] How Big is your Family Tree? Once in a while, someone swells up his chest and announces to me that he has 8,000 names in his family tree, or he has 25,000 names, or, or, or....... So, how big is your family tree? Columnist Pat MacAdam's column appeared in the Ottawa Sun last Sunday (May 13) and towards the end of it, he changed the subject and explained he had been asked by a university in Oregon for a DNA sample and they would pick up the $253 (US) cost. "The object of the DNA test was to determine if I might be a descendant of Brian Boru, one of the last great kings of Ireland and, therefore, I might be a Pretender to the Irish throne." He then explained how the university emailed him weekly reports and he and an orange grower in California shared 37 identical DNA markers. He concluded with: "Cold water was dashed on my dreams of ermine and purple when I read an online story about Genghis Khan. It seems that a team of credible PhDs has conjectured there might be between 16-17 million "offspring" of the warrior walking around with his DNA." Now, have you nearly finished collecting everyone in your family tree? Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Never been known as one to shy away from large numbers... "A complete 35 generation family tree will have 2^35 = 34,359,738,368 ancestors in the 35th generation, which is at least 60 to 100 times greater than the entire population of the world at that time (300 to 500 million)." Obviously, given that information, it doesn't cover all the ancestors who appear multiple times in a given "tree". HOWEVER, it also doesn't take into consideration all the various siblings and their families supported by the average "Dead Relative Collection Software" packages of today. When one averages 3 siblings per ancestor, at least 2 of those 3 likely marrying and having 3.5 children each, the number quickly increases, even accounting for ancestors who appear in multiple lines, one will quickly amass the potential for over a billion entries in the "complete" family tree. I remember reading (somewhere, many years ago, in a magazine on an airline) an article about how many people have lived upon the Earth in its entire history. Some mathematical genius had taken the cut-off in 2000 and used a fancy algorithm to compute a "reasonable" number of humans who had graced this planet with their presence "since the dawn of man (humankind)". As I recall, it was a far smaller number than I'd expected, since in 2000, the world population was something just shy or just over 3 billion. His algorithm came up with a "total" number somewhere between 20 and 25 billion, and that number decreased by about 3 billion when it parsed out the number that lived to adulthood, and less again, those who married, and less again, those who had children. I wish I could find that article again, as I'd suspect parts of it would make for interesting quotes in the foreword/preface of the book I'm supposed to write by summer 2008! Has anyone else seen this or a similar article and knows where to find it? Cheers, Jared > Bill Tufts wrote: >> Once in a while, someone swells up his chest and announces to me that >> he >> has 8,000 names in his family tree, or he has 25,000 names, or, or, >> or....... So, how big is your family tree? >> >> Columnist Pat MacAdam's column appeared in the Ottawa Sun last Sunday >> (May 13) and towards the end of it, he changed the subject and >> explained >> he had been asked by a university in Oregon for a DNA sample and they >> would pick up the $253 (US) cost. >> >> "The object of the DNA test was to determine if I might be a >> descendant of >> Brian Boru, one of the last great kings of Ireland and, therefore, I >> might >> be a Pretender to the Irish throne." >> >> He then explained how the university emailed him weekly reports and he >> and an orange grower in California shared 37 identical DNA markers. He >> concluded with: >> >> "Cold water was dashed on my dreams of ermine and purple when I read >> an online story about Genghis Khan. It seems that a team of credible >> PhDs >> has conjectured there might be between 16-17 million "offspring" of >> the >> warrior walking around with his DNA." >> >> >> Now, have you nearly finished collecting everyone in your family tree? >> > > Brian Boru lived in the 11 th century, or about 1050 years ago. Allowing > 30 years average per generation that is 35 generations. A complete 35 > generation family tree will have 2^35 = 34,359,738,368 ancestors in the > 35th generation, which is at least 60 to 100 times greater than the entire > population of the world at that time (300 to 500 million). > > In other words "everybody is descended from Brian Boru" (and Charlegmagne, > and Julius Caesar, and ...). > > Ron Martell Microsoft MVP > http://onlinehelp.bc.ca > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker jedh@jedh.com

Once in a while, someone swells up his chest and announces to me that he has 8,000 names in his family tree, or he has 25,000 names, or, or, or....... So, how big is your family tree? Columnist Pat MacAdam's column appeared in the Ottawa Sun last Sunday (May 13) and towards the end of it, he changed the subject and explained he had been asked by a university in Oregon for a DNA sample and they would pick up the $253 (US) cost. "The object of the DNA test was to determine if I might be a descendant of Brian Boru, one of the last great kings of Ireland and, therefore, I might be a Pretender to the Irish throne." He then explained how the university emailed him weekly reports and he and an orange grower in California shared 37 identical DNA markers. He concluded with: "Cold water was dashed on my dreams of ermine and purple when I read an online story about Genghis Khan. It seems that a team of credible PhDs has conjectured there might be between 16-17 million "offspring" of the warrior walking around with his DNA." Now, have you nearly finished collecting everyone in your family tree? Bill

Hello Everyone, Is there a website dedicated to miners of New Brunswick? Possibly one remembering those who lost their lives in mining disasters in the province? I'm currently researching for a 'how to find your ancestors who were miners' genealogy column and although I have several for Nova Scotia, I can't find one for New Brunswick. Thanks, Diana Diana Lynn Tibert The Family Attic, home to Roots to the Past (updated April 4, 2007): http://www.thefamilyattic.info/Roots.html <http://www.angelfire.com/folk/guysboroughvets/Roots.html>

What is it that the Scots say -- "we're all Jock Tamsen's bairns"?? Marilyn in Vancouver ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tufts" <dg052@freenet.carleton.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com>; "ns roots" <nsroots@ednet.ns.ca>; "Lunen Links" <Lunen-Links-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: [ NB ] How Big is your Family Tree? > Once in a while, someone swells up his chest and announces to me that he > has 8,000 names in his family tree, or he has 25,000 names, or, or, > or....... So, how big is your family tree? > > Columnist Pat MacAdam's column appeared in the Ottawa Sun last Sunday > (May 13) and towards the end of it, he changed the subject and explained > he had been asked by a university in Oregon for a DNA sample and they > would pick up the $253 (US) cost. > > "The object of the DNA test was to determine if I might be a descendant of > Brian Boru, one of the last great kings of Ireland and, therefore, I might > be a Pretender to the Irish throne." > > He then explained how the university emailed him weekly reports and he > and an orange grower in California shared 37 identical DNA markers. He > concluded with: > > "Cold water was dashed on my dreams of ermine and purple when I read > an online story about Genghis Khan. It seems that a team of credible PhDs > has conjectured there might be between 16-17 million "offspring" of the > warrior walking around with his DNA." > > > Now, have you nearly finished collecting everyone in your family tree? > > Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 5/2/07 2:16 PM > >

Bill, you made me curious so I checked it out with Google and it was 1889 that Portland amalgamated with the city of Saint John. I would've thought earlier too. There a great site done by the Community College on the "North End" at http://www.saintjohn.nbcc.nb.ca/heritage/NorthEnd/index.htm Cheers, Suzanne Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tufts" <dg052@freenet.carleton.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Formation of city of Saint John > Don't know if your 1889 date is right, but your information about > 1967 is what I have, too. It was also the 100th. Anniversary of > Confederation. Also that day, little Pamela Anderson, actress, > was born in Ladysmith, B.C. > > Bill > >> >>

Bill Tufts wrote: > Once in a while, someone swells up his chest and announces to me that > he > has 8,000 names in his family tree, or he has 25,000 names, or, or, > or....... So, how big is your family tree? > > Columnist Pat MacAdam's column appeared in the Ottawa Sun last Sunday > (May 13) and towards the end of it, he changed the subject and > explained > he had been asked by a university in Oregon for a DNA sample and they > would pick up the $253 (US) cost. > > "The object of the DNA test was to determine if I might be a > descendant of > Brian Boru, one of the last great kings of Ireland and, therefore, I > might > be a Pretender to the Irish throne." > > He then explained how the university emailed him weekly reports and he > and an orange grower in California shared 37 identical DNA markers. He > concluded with: > > "Cold water was dashed on my dreams of ermine and purple when I read > an online story about Genghis Khan. It seems that a team of credible > PhDs > has conjectured there might be between 16-17 million "offspring" of > the > warrior walking around with his DNA." > > > Now, have you nearly finished collecting everyone in your family tree? > Brian Boru lived in the 11 th century, or about 1050 years ago. Allowing 30 years average per generation that is 35 generations. A complete 35 generation family tree will have 2^35 = 34,359,738,368 ancestors in the 35th generation, which is at least 60 to 100 times greater than the entire population of the world at that time (300 to 500 million). In other words "everybody is descended from Brian Boru" (and Charlegmagne, and Julius Caesar, and ...). Ron Martell Microsoft MVP http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

Don't know if your 1889 date is right, but your information about 1967 is what I have, too. It was also the 100th. Anniversary of Confederation. Also that day, little Pamela Anderson, actress, was born in Ladysmith, B.C. Bill Suzanne Carter wrote: > I could be wrong but my notes say.... > Lancaster, to the west , and the Parish of Simonds , to the east were > amalgamated with the city of Saint John on January 1st, 1967. The old town > of Portland became part of the city in 1889. > > Hope this is right! > Suzanne Carter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Wayne, You really know how to pick tough questions. I tentatively have this Nathan as son of William DeLong, who was son of Charles DeLong & Alchie/Alchey (MORRELL) (her m2). I think they also had a son, Elnathan/Alnathan, b. in the early 1840s. Charles was s/o Loyalist, John & Sarah (Clarke) DeLong of Long Island, Hampstead. The LDS records says that a William H. m. 28.12.1871 at Sussex, Louisa C. SCHEFER. This almost agrees with the message posted by Suzanne Carter and her source is likely more accurate. The PANB website lists the m. of a Nathan DeLong to Mabel Adair & the birth of daughter, "Mable," a year later in Waterford. I see you ound her. While this seems to line up correctly, I'm still missing any actual proof and there's a fly in the ointment. There was a William DeLong in Maine at the same time who could have been the same man. I don't think so, but we all know where assumptions come back to bite us! Geographically, it would make sense that this line is descended from the Aaron DeLong line, but I think I'm right in discarding this as a possibility. I thought Charles and Alchie also had a son, Charles b.c. 1844 and he does show up on the 1881 census. I have no idea what happened to him and other than that census, I had no reference to a daughter, Bertha. Bill

Leaves If someone is at Archives in Fredericton in next few days can you look up the following for me and find out parents of Nathan DeLong. Thanks Index to New Brunswick Marriages Name ADAIR, MABLE PEARL Married DELONG, NATHAN Date 1903 | 03 | 31 (Y-M-D) County KINGS Parish ---- Number 1587 Reference B4/1903 Microfilm F15905 Wayne DeLong

----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Townshend Alnes To: splisson@nbnet.nb.ca Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:45 AM Subject: Boat builders Susan Pat Townshend Alnes, Norway here. It was I who posted the query to the New Brunswick Mailing list. History of the Company and Cruisers built:................... I was looking for information on the boat building business owned by the Logan brothers in the cove at IndianTown( NorthEnd) next to the Power Boat Club. ( I believe they mostly built power boats that were owned privatly and usually for pleasure on the Saint John River). Reason.... My Gr Grandfather's cabin cruiser was built by this family. Seems a couple of the Logan families listed by you Susan were the right family. There must be another person out there who is looking for LOGAN family data.I hope she/he reads your posting. Thank you. Pat patalnes@online.no > 2. LOGAN family - Straight Shore (Suzanne Carter) > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 02:23:38 -0300 > From: "Suzanne Carter" <splisson@nbnet.nb.ca> > Subject: [ NB ] LOGAN family - Straight Shore > To: "NB Mailing List" <NewBrunswick-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000601c7951e$dd532640$beafb3cf@anisotropic> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, There was recently a post looking for the LOGAN family from Straight > SHore, Portland ( Saint John) NB. I think the poster was the same lady > who posted on the Rootsweb message boards and for some reason they are > having technical problems and I couldn't post my answer to her so I hope > she reads this. > > > Hi Audrey, > Alexander LOGAN and his family are buried in the Old Cedar Hill Cemetery > across the river from Straight SHore where they lived. Their stone > says.... >

hello I would like to get info on Merrithew in or around Douglas, NB also I am looking for parents of Joanne S Merrithew b 1786 d 1865 who married to John Yerxa (s/o Johannes Jurckse and Catherine Gerow) b 1777 d 28 Aug 1849 Thank you Carla Cummings

I could be wrong but my notes say.... Lancaster, to the west , and the Parish of Simonds , to the east were amalgamated with the city of Saint John on January 1st, 1967. The old town of Portland became part of the city in 1889. Hope this is right! Suzanne Carter

Chipman Public Library telephone 506-339-5852 Chipman Villiage Office E Mail villchip@nbnet.nb.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "ruth" <rco89791@bigpond.net.au> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address > Don, > > Thanks for responding. Yes this is my uncle and I have his headstone > photo > and obituary. Problem is I don't have an address for his home. He also > worked for a time in the lumber mill at Chipman - any idea how I could > find > them - my searching has come up blank - perhaps the mill no longer > exists?? > Is there some sort of historical body or local library for the area? > > Ruth in Sydney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DONALD" <dderwin@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:16 PM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address > > >> Hi Ruth if this is John Hart McKenzie >> b/1909 d/1993 buried in >> Cunberland Bay >> United Church,Queens Co >> no number for this church ,but there is one for United Church in >> Chipman >> wich is very close to Cumberland Bay >> numbers 506-339-6827 >> 506-339-6626 >> they might be abel to help you with a picture Good Luck Don in NB >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ruth" <rco89791@bigpond.net.au> >> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:43 AM >> Subject: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address >> >> >>> HI, >>> >>> Would anyone know where I can find out my uncle John McKenzie's actual >>> house address in Cumberland Bay? He lived there until being admitted to >>> a >>> nursing home following a stroke and I would dearly love a photo of his >>> house for family records. >>> >>> He emigrated to Canada as a boy in 1924 and died in 1993. He lived >>> around >>> the area for fifty years or so. >>> >>> Any guidance much appreciated. >>> >>> Ruth in Sydney >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wayne, I may be leading you astray but here's my theory.... In Rev. James GRAY's Presbyterian Church records is a marrisge on Dec 22, 1871... William H. DELONG of Kars m. Louisa C. SCHAFER of Elgin "A.C." (Anglican Church???) In the 1881 census, this family is found living in Elgin, Albert Co. Now in the old days, the families travelled the Shepody Road and therefore it was not uncommon for families to mix from the Waterford area and Elgin area. ADAIR is a Waterford name mostly . The DELONGS are mainly from up the river in the Kars, Hampstead area. I have no idea how William would have met Louisa and why he moved to Elgin besides it being her home. Anyway here they are in the 1881 census... Census Place: Elgin, Albert, New Brunswick, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375813 NAC C-13177 Dist 23 SubDist F Page 18 Family 78 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Wiliam DELONG M M 38 German New Brunswick Occ: Farmer Religion: Baptist Loeza DELONG F M 34 German Germany Religion: Church of England Bertha DELONG F 8 German Germany Religion: Church of England George DELONG M 6 German Germany Religion: Church of England Elathin DELONG M 3 German Germany Religion: Church of England The last child, in my opinion, could be your Nathan. The census taker may have been told his name was "L. Nathan" and that is the way it was written. In those days people got married often in whatever church had a minister. In the country where ministers travelled people might go to an Anglican church one Sunday and a Presbyterian church the other, just because they had services there. They still do it in places. My point is, don't be put off by the "Baptist" and "Church of England" in the census and the fact that they married in the Presbyterian church. They didn't baptise their children there. They probably attended a Baptist church in Elgin. So , as I said, just a theory, but I'd put my money on William and Louisa being Nathan DELONG's parents. Hope this helps, Suzanne Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne DeLong" <wdelong@nb.sympatico.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: [ NB ] re Nathan DeLong/ Mable Adair > Can anyone share the light on who the parents are for Nathan DeLong who > married Mable Adair > Index | Pedigree | Ahnentafel | Public Profile | Add Post-em > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > a.. ID: I16660 > a.. Name: Mabel Pearl ADAIR > a.. Sex: F > a.. Birth: 1881 in Donegal, Kings, NB, Canada > a.. Census: 1901 Waterford, Kings, NB, Canada > a.. Census: 1911 Waterford, Kings, NB, Canada > a.. _UID: 07190F4FD952406E81B3A51E6490720ABE5B > a.. Change Date: 10 MAR 2006 > > Father: James ADAIR b: 1836 in NB, Canada > Mother: Sarah Ann ADAIR b: 1843 in NB, Canada > > Marriage 1 Nathan L. DELONG b: ABT 1881 in NB, Canada > a.. Married: 1903 in Kings, NB, Canada > > Marriage 2 Arthur FAIRWEATHER b: ABT 1881 in NB, Canada > a.. Married: 1917 in St. John, St. John, NB, Canada > > > >

The following may help some researchers in placing "where" people were when they are being found on census returns. For people completely unfamiliar with Saint John, envision a letter T. Saint John city and the City Wards are on a peninsula (the vertical stem of the T). To the east is Courtenay Bay and the Saint John harbour is to the west. To the south is the Bay of Fundy. The horizontal top of the T was Portland. Across the harbour was Carleton, which is now West Saint John. Inbetween the period naming it Carleton (1783) to West Saint John (1 July, 1967), there were a few name changes. For instance, most of Lancaster Parish became Lancaster and Fairville became part of Lancaster. The following discusses the Ward breakdowns across the top of the T. PORTLAND WARDS Source: The 1875 Atlas of Saint John County. Using 5 maps, it is possible to figure out fairly closely just where the boundaries between the 4 wards were located, but there seems to be one slight contradition of about one block. Ward 1 was the westernmost and Ward 4 was the easternmost of the 4 Wards. Ward one's western boundary was the east bank of the Saint John River. At the south end, it comes to a point (like a triangle) where the river meets the southeastern boundary. Starting at the Reversing Falls bridge (then a suspension bridge), the "eastern" boundary was Douglas Street (now Avenue). At Main Street, it turned west along Main to Adelaide Street, where it turned north along Adelaide to McCoskery Road, which winds northward and splits the village of Milledgeville on Kennebecasis Bay. Although unmarked, it appears the boundary above Adelaide Street is McCoskery Road, which means Milledgeville is 50% in each ward. In the west, at the southern end of Ward 1, Ward 2 also came to a point and included everything on the southeast side of Douglas Road between it and the inner harbour. "Village Plan 4" shows the eastern Boundary at Portland Street, which is near the north end of the main Saint John harbour and runs from the harbour to Main Street. The boundary runs in a (mostly) northerly direction from Portland and Main, which places Fort Howe mostly inside Ward 2. A map of the "Town of Portland" places the boundary a block to the west of Portland Street and runs up Simonds Street to Main Street where it heads in a straight line almost in a northerly direction to Kennebecasis Bay. This leaves Fort Howe completely inside Ward 3. The line between Wards 3 and 4 is not shown, but might be the very crooked Sandy Point Road, which goes north-northeast to Kennebecasis Bay. The northeastern corner of the Ward is the west side of Drurys Cove. Concerning the southern boundary of Portland, I was always under the assumption that the boundary between iy and "Saint John" City was Paradise Row, because it extends east from Main Street. But, it's not. The boundary was just south and ran along City Road and cut through the old Union (railway) Station (now the market). It was mostly in Portland. The northeast corner of Saint John was at the point where City Road came to Marsh Creek. Above City Road were Wards 4 and most of 3. East of Marsh Creek, the southern boundary is not marked. Bill Question: Saint John was incorporated in 1845. When did Portland become part of Saint John?

The question about the Logan family shipbuilders twigged a memory. Back about 150 years ago, some of these miserable, rotten families sat down with the Stackhouse family and said: "Let's marry into each other's families and lets marry women with the same names and give all our children the same names. And so, it came to pass!<g> Because of this conspiracy, I have been banging my head against the wall for 10-15 years every time I tackle them and try to unravel family lines. Finally, I think the bunch I want are on the east side of Saint John (mostly) in Simonds and are somehow connected to the Logan shipbuilders living further west. Suzanne Carter did a nice job collecting the Logans on the 1881 census and I didn't know where it was, so I did some looking. An 1875 map of Portland Village Plan 4 (does not include the scale) shows a part of Wards 1 and 2 in Portland. Ward 1 includes Indiantown and everything between Douglas Road (now avenue) and west to the Saint John River. Douglas Road leads from Main Street to what was then the suspension bridge over Reversing Falls. Also leading to the Reversing Falls bridge was Strait Shore Road, which is definitely not straight. This has me wondering if "Straight Shore" should be "Strait Shore." The inner harbour, or arm, could be considered a strait, running from the mouth of the Saint John River into the harbour proper. Strait Shore Road runs along the north shore of the inner harbour. Heading east and northeast from Reversing Falls along the shore, William Shrives had a the first long stretch of land that was the site of his sawmill. Then came T. Gray and next to him was "Merritt." Adjoining this was a long stretch of land showing Rev. D.P. Merritt, with a wharf on the western boundary. About 1/3 of the way to the east (still on Merritt's property), was "Logan and Miller Lessees" and included another wharf. A short street (not named) divided this from the next property, also labelled "Logan and Miller Lessees." This describes the residents about halfway along to Bentley St. Some distance further northeast from Bentley St. is the smaller establishment of N. Logan. The map shows a building at the street that is as wide as the lot. Behind it is a larger building and a wharf. After this point, the Strait Shore Road curves to the east. The eastern boundary of Portland was Portland Street, which was opposite Fort Howe. The fort, itself, was split by the boundary, but mostly in Ward 2. I looked on the List of subscribers and under Ship Builders, Owners and Brokers, there were no Logans or Millers. There were only a few houses on the map showing who lived there. An R. Logan lived between Douglas Road and the river. List of Subscribers: Grocers and Provisions: Lee & Logan, Wholesale Grocers, 16 Dock st. Logan, Lindsay & Co., Importers and Wholesale and Retail Grocers, 62 King st. As a footnote to Merritt, my great-great-grandfather, Capt. William Tufts (who was named for me<g>), drowned at Merritt's Wharf on Dec. 22, 1870. I'll compose a second message of the Ward Boundaries. Bill

The following may help some researchers in placing "where" people were when they are being found on census returns. For people completely unfamiliar with Saint John, envision a letter T. Saint John city and the City Wards are on a peninsula (the vertical stem of the T). To the east is Courtenay Bay and the Saint John harbour is to the west. To the south is the Bay of Fundy. The horizontal top of the T was Portland. Across the harbour was Carleton, which is now West Saint John. Inbetween the period naming it Carleton (1783) to West Saint John (1 July, 1967), there were a few name changes. For instance, most of Lancaster Parish became Lancaster and Fairville became part of Lancaster. The following discusses the Ward breakdowns across the top of the T. PORTLAND WARDS Source: The 1875 Atlas of Saint John County. Using 5 maps, it is possible to figure out fairly closely just where the boundaries between the 4 wards were located, but there seems to be one slight contradition of about one block. Ward 1 was the westernmost and Ward 4 was the easternmost of the 4 Wards. Ward one's western boundary was the east bank of the Saint John River. At the south end, it comes to a point (like a triangle) where the river meets the southeastern boundary. Starting at the Reversing Falls bridge (then a suspension bridge), the "eastern" boundary was Douglas Street (now Avenue). At Main Street, it turned west along Main to Adelaide Street, where it turned north along Adelaide to McCoskery Road, which winds northward and splits the village of Milledgeville on Kennebecasis Bay. Although unmarked, it appears the boundary above Adelaide Street is McCoskery Road, which means Milledgeville is 50% in each ward. In the west, at the southern end of Ward 1, Ward 2 also came to a point and included everything on the southeast side of Douglas Road between it and the inner harbour. "Village Plan 4" shows the eastern Boundary at Portland Street, which is near the north end of the main Saint John harbour and runs from the harbour to Main Street. The boundary runs in a (mostly) northerly direction from Portland and Main, which places Fort Howe mostly inside Ward 2. A map of the "Town of Portland" places the boundary a block to the west of Portland Street and runs up Simonds Street to Main Street where it heads in a straight line almost in a northerly direction to Kennebecasis Bay. This leaves Fort Howe completely inside Ward 3. The line between Wards 3 and 4 is not shown, but might be the very crooked Sandy Point Road, which goes north-northeast to Kennebecasis Bay. The northeastern corner of the Ward is the west side of Drurys Cove. Concerning the southern boundary of Portland, I was always under the assumption that the boundary between iy and "Saint John" City was Paradise Row, because it extends east from Main Street. But, it's not. The boundary was just south and ran along City Road and cut through the old Union (railway) Station (now the market). It was mostly in Portland. The northeast corner of Saint John was at the point where City Road came to Marsh Creek. Above City Road were Wards 4 and most of 3. East of Marsh Creek, the southern boundary is not marked. Bill Question: Saint John was incorporated in 1845. When did Portland become part of Saint John?

Can anyone share the light on who the parents are for Nathan DeLong who married Mable Adair Index | Pedigree | Ahnentafel | Public Profile | Add Post-em -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a.. ID: I16660 a.. Name: Mabel Pearl ADAIR a.. Sex: F a.. Birth: 1881 in Donegal, Kings, NB, Canada a.. Census: 1901 Waterford, Kings, NB, Canada a.. Census: 1911 Waterford, Kings, NB, Canada a.. _UID: 07190F4FD952406E81B3A51E6490720ABE5B a.. Change Date: 10 MAR 2006 Father: James ADAIR b: 1836 in NB, Canada Mother: Sarah Ann ADAIR b: 1843 in NB, Canada Marriage 1 Nathan L. DELONG b: ABT 1881 in NB, Canada a.. Married: 1903 in Kings, NB, Canada Marriage 2 Arthur FAIRWEATHER b: ABT 1881 in NB, Canada a.. Married: 1917 in St. John, St. John, NB, Canada