Is there a link to these on line? The following are listed in Cemeteries of Westmorland County: Moncton Parish: Berry Mills Cemetery Birch Hill Cemetery Boundary Creek Cemetery Brown Family Cemetery Catamount Pioneer Cemetery Charters Family Cemetery Chartersville Funeral Home Columbarium Cox Family Burial Ground Free Meeting House Cemetery Hiltz Family Cemetery Horsman Cemetery Howe Burial Plot Jonah Cemetery Lakeside Cemetery Lone Pine Cemetery Lowry Cemetery Lutz-Steeves Cemetery Lutes Mountain Pioneer Maddison Cemetery Milner Burial Ground Pine Hill Cemetery Rebecca Lutes Burial Ground Scotch Settlement Cemetery Shaw Brook Cemetery Shediac Road Catholic Cemetery Somers Family Cemetery St.-Anselme Catholic Cemetery St. Lawrence-O'Toole Catholic Cemetery Steeves Mountain Cemetery Stilesville Cemetery Tiferes Israel Cemetery Turner Meeting House Cemetery White Pine Cemetery Wilbur Cemetery Wilson Cemetery Excluded are: Elmwood Cemetery (previously published by Ken Kanner) Fair Haven Memorial Gardens (previously published by Thelma Perry) Our Lady of Calvary (to be published separately) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date: 5/16/2007 6:05 PM

The following are listed in Cemeteries of Westmorland County: Moncton Parish: Berry Mills Cemetery Birch Hill Cemetery Boundary Creek Cemetery Brown Family Cemetery Catamount Pioneer Cemetery Charters Family Cemetery Chartersville Funeral Home Columbarium Cox Family Burial Ground Free Meeting House Cemetery Hiltz Family Cemetery Horsman Cemetery Howe Burial Plot Jonah Cemetery Lakeside Cemetery Lone Pine Cemetery Lowry Cemetery Lutz-Steeves Cemetery Lutes Mountain Pioneer Maddison Cemetery Milner Burial Ground Pine Hill Cemetery Rebecca Lutes Burial Ground Scotch Settlement Cemetery Shaw Brook Cemetery Shediac Road Catholic Cemetery Somers Family Cemetery St.-Anselme Catholic Cemetery St. Lawrence-O'Toole Catholic Cemetery Steeves Mountain Cemetery Stilesville Cemetery Tiferes Israel Cemetery Turner Meeting House Cemetery White Pine Cemetery Wilbur Cemetery Wilson Cemetery Excluded are: Elmwood Cemetery (previously published by Ken Kanner) Fair Haven Memorial Gardens (previously published by Thelma Perry) Our Lady of Calvary (to be published separately)

Actually, the Pilgrims left England due to persecution, and went first to Leyden, Netherlands, where they found complete religious freedom. They stayed there for quite some time and left for America, not to escape persecution, but to escape all the various other religious theories being espoused in Leyden, which they feared would "corrupt" their children and turn them away from the "true faith". So, as Bill said, when they then arrived in America they tried to ensure that no teaching contrary to their own beliefs would find its way there, and when it did - firstly in the form of the Quakers - they persecuted it harshly, even hanging some. The key lesson in life that our ancestors struggled with is that: - it is not necessary to be absolutely right and perfectly sure of every jot and tittle of doctrine; and - others have just as much right to be wrong as we do. Lukas Huisman Bill Tufts wrote: > Funny how the Pilgrims were persecuted at home, so left America > where they were harder on other religions and the Quakers were > the bullseye of their dart board. But they were tough on just > about anyone else. But 2nd on the hit list were the Anabaptists. > My ancestor, Rev. Obadiah Holmes, was ordered to pay 30 shillings > for baptising people in the river. Hr refused and "wore 30 > stripes" instead. It almost killed him and he slept on his > stomach for over a month. The NB Kiersteads descendants (incl me) > from Obadiah. So, too, does Abraham Lincoln. I call him "My > American Cousin," honest! I don't particularly like attending > plays & I'm no fan. Maybe this is why, it's in the genes.<g> > > Bill > >

Funny how the Pilgrims were persecuted at home, so left America where they were harder on other religions and the Quakers were the bullseye of their dart board. But they were tough on just about anyone else. But 2nd on the hit list were the Anabaptists. My ancestor, Rev. Obadiah Holmes, was ordered to pay 30 shillings for baptising people in the river. Hr refused and "wore 30 stripes" instead. It almost killed him and he slept on his stomach for over a month. The NB Kiersteads descendants (incl me) from Obadiah. So, too, does Abraham Lincoln. I call him "My American Cousin," honest! I don't particularly like attending plays & I'm no fan. Maybe this is why, it's in the genes.<g> Bill Ruth Melander wrote: > Hi Bill > > Ah yes the meat and potatoes are the best. I like the "push and pull factors" description. It seems to me that the quest for land and freedom from religious persecution have been two prime factors in migration. > > Here in North America we tend to think of the Mayflower pilgrims when we think of freedom of religion. Oddly my ancestors (Howlands) in Mass. turned to the Quaker religion and were treated harshly. It seemed that some of them migrated to R.I. where they had more freedoms. Odd how the pilgrims became the ones to squash religious freedom. > > It goes without saying that war is added to the mix. One has to wonder what New Brunswick would look like today without the massive Loyalist migration. I'm sure it would be a very different province than what we see today. > > If we look at migration as it is today we see nothing has changed except the ease of movement. We have to marvel at our ancestors for the hardships they endured trying to find a better way of life. > > Hi Ruth, > > I call the names n' dates the family skeleton. Learning about who > they were is the meat n' potatoes. > > I went back to university after 25 years & took all my credits in > history and did much better than I did in high school. Why? I was > now interested. > > Even up to the 1980s, it was hard to figure out where someone had > come from and I came up the idea of chain migration, although the > name didn't cross my mind - just the concept. In 1982, I met Dr. > Bruce Elliott (history) whose thesis had just been published and > he, too, had found and used chain migration patterns to find > people. A social historian, he looked too at people bringing with > them customs and the way to do things. For instance, the style of > a man's house might as well have been a flag on the roof. > > I took a few courses given by him & he put into words what I had > also considered. Why did they leave (must have been daunting) and > why did they go where they did? Bruce called it "push" and "pull" > factors. In the "Push" factors are such things as economy and > religion. Where they went was often because a relative/neighbour > was doing better there & frequently, especially in early years, > they followed the trade routes. > > There's a cute story about the young Irishman who crossed America > to Oregon. After a couple of months on the very hot midwestern > high plains, the wagon train reached the Rockies. He wrote back > to his brother and said: "Paddy, you godda come here. They have > so much land [that] they're stackin' it." > > Good luck with your search. And read local histories of places > where your people lived. > > Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have debated if I could (or should) send this to the list, so doing it today. My Aunt, Marilyn (McVicar) Bonvie, has cancer and is not likely to be back on the computer. I know she has made many friends through the years of her researching family trees, esp on this list & Charlotte Co/Saint George boards I know she would love to hear from you. You can send her a note through me or if you want her mailing address is 33 Saratoga Drive Lower Sackville, NS B4C 2E7 Thanks for reading, Marilyn (Leland) Bennett bennettm@nb.sympatico.ca

Hi Everyone, This news release was just sent out today about the Revolution War Records going online on www.familysearch.org If by chance the below site does not go through properly, click on www.lds.org and then to the right click on "newsroom". http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=c5daf6e6af592110VgnVCM100000176f620aRCRD&vgnextchannel=ae11627d59eec010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD Shirley

Hello everybody If you are doing research in the Moncton area you might be interested to know that the Southeastern branch of the NBGS has just published a book titled Cemeteries of Westmorland county: Moncton Parish. It lists transcriptions for 35 different Moncton area cemeteries or burial grounds, many of which have not been fully transcribed before. If anybody wants more information on the book you can contact Michelle Falkjar falkjare@nbnet.nb.ca or Thelma Perry tmperry@rogers.com

Hi Bill Ah yes the meat and potatoes are the best. I like the "push and pull factors" description. It seems to me that the quest for land and freedom from religious persecution have been two prime factors in migration. Here in North America we tend to think of the Mayflower pilgrims when we think of freedom of religion. Oddly my ancestors (Howlands) in Mass. turned to the Quaker religion and were treated harshly. It seemed that some of them migrated to R.I. where they had more freedoms. Odd how the pilgrims became the ones to squash religious freedom. It goes without saying that war is added to the mix. One has to wonder what New Brunswick would look like today without the massive Loyalist migration. I'm sure it would be a very different province than what we see today. If we look at migration as it is today we see nothing has changed except the ease of movement. We have to marvel at our ancestors for the hardships they endured trying to find a better way of life. Hi Ruth, I call the names n' dates the family skeleton. Learning about who they were is the meat n' potatoes. I went back to university after 25 years & took all my credits in history and did much better than I did in high school. Why? I was now interested. Even up to the 1980s, it was hard to figure out where someone had come from and I came up the idea of chain migration, although the name didn't cross my mind - just the concept. In 1982, I met Dr. Bruce Elliott (history) whose thesis had just been published and he, too, had found and used chain migration patterns to find people. A social historian, he looked too at people bringing with them customs and the way to do things. For instance, the style of a man's house might as well have been a flag on the roof. I took a few courses given by him & he put into words what I had also considered. Why did they leave (must have been daunting) and why did they go where they did? Bruce called it "push" and "pull" factors. In the "Push" factors are such things as economy and religion. Where they went was often because a relative/neighbour was doing better there & frequently, especially in early years, they followed the trade routes. There's a cute story about the young Irishman who crossed America to Oregon. After a couple of months on the very hot midwestern high plains, the wagon train reached the Rockies. He wrote back to his brother and said: "Paddy, you godda come here. They have so much land [that] they're stackin' it." Good luck with your search. And read local histories of places where your people lived. Bill

Is it possible to publish an index of the cemeteries to the list? Di On 16 May 2007 at 13:02, Eric & Michelle wrote: > Hello everybody > > If you are doing research in the Moncton area you might be interested > to know that the Southeastern branch of the NBGS has just published a > book titled Cemeteries of Westmorland county: Moncton Parish. > > It lists transcriptions for 35 different Moncton area cemeteries or > burial grounds, many of which have not been fully transcribed before. > > If anybody wants more information on the book you can contact Michelle > Falkjar falkjare@nbnet.nb.ca or Thelma Perry tmperry@rogers.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: > 5/15/2007 10:47 AM > Diane McLeod mcleo01@shaw.ca http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dimcl (Designed and Built by D. McLeod)

Hi Bill, and List, That was amusing ! :o) When I was a very young girl in Winchester, MA, my father moved us into his grandmother's farmhouse. "Grandma KIDDER" had inherited the large HUTCHINSON Farm about 15 years before, and we moved in with her. I have memories of her sitting by the window in the large, farmhouse-type kitchen. But, I have no memories of "Grandpa KIDDER" and I don't remember anyone ever speaking of him. Grandma died in the 1960's - long before I began my genealogy hobby, so I couldn't ask her. My KIDDER great-uncle only said that his father had returned to his home-town in Princeton, Maine. For several reasons I decided that I was going to find out more about "Grandpa." About 15 years ago I started writing letters and asking more questions. It turned out that Grandpa abandoned his family (when 3 kids were school age) to return to Maine. Then I found out that he had signs of a "mental illness" - caused by "being a religious fanatic." (happened in those times). More investigating showed that he spent the last 5 years of his life at -- Bangor State Hospital ! He was there for a serious heart condition, and "mental health issues." I found out that his daughter and youngest son had to drive from Winchester, MA, to Princeton, ME, to get him admitted to the hospital ! * George "Sanford" KIDDER (born 1870 in Maine) died there in 1943 - before I was born. (For whatever reason, "Grandma" brought "Grandpa" back to Winchester to be buried in her family's plot.) To include this in New Brunswick history. "Grandpa KIDDER" was the great-grandson of Calvin KIDDER (1765-1799 who arrived in New Brunswick in 1784. Calvin married there in 1798 but was killed in a boating accident in 1799. His widow remarried to Ambrose BATES and they had many children. So, the only child of Calvin, Joseph "Calvin" KIDDER, had many step-siblings. Also, regarding how large my family-tree is .. I'm more interested in the "how's, why's and wherefor's." And, for the KIDDER's, HUTCHINSON's, MOORE's, CROSBY's, RICE,'s etc., I can trace them back to the early 1600's in the MA Bay Colony. And, maybe a few years before that back in England, if I'm lucky. But, for the "British Home Children" great-grandparents, I can only go back to 1800 in England, and for the other set of great-grandparents, I can only go back to about 1790 in Ireland. And, I don't even know who another set of great-grandparents were ! I can only have an "educated guess" that the Adoptive parents of my grandmother were her grandparents, and their (only) adult married daughter was the birth-mother. And, unless a "real miracle" happens, I will never know who the birth-father of my grandmother was. Thus, one of my great-grandfather's will be forever --- un-named ! (If my "educated guess" is correct, this grandmother can (reportedly) be traced back to -- the "Mayflower." - on her birth-mother's side.) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) * When their father left them, the 3 kids were - not healthy. The oldest, the daughter, had been in a sledding accident and lost partial sight of her eyes, and was pregnant at Age 16 or 17. The second was a son who became a "troubled teen." The third was hit by a truck at Age 9 and lost an entire leg as a result of the accident. So, when Clarissa and Clinton drove to Maine to get their father to a hospital, she had "sight problems," and he was driving with an "artificial leg." FYI: Many researchers are still looking for the parents of Calvin KIDDER's widow, born Mary GREENLAW. If they married in N.B, but lived along the N.B. / ME coast, she could have been born in either places. New List created on Feb. 1: CAN-USA-MIGRATION For Genealogy researchers, please remember to check the archives of the Lists & Boards for both your surnames and place-names.

Hi Ruth, I call the names n' dates the family skeleton. Learning about who they were is the meat n' potatoes. I went back to university after 25 years & took all my credits in history and did much better than I did in high school. Why? I was now interested. Even up to the 1980s, it was hard to figure out where someone had come from and I came up the idea of chain migration, although the name didn't cross my mind - just the concept. In 1982, I met Dr. Bruce Elliott (history) whose thesis had just been published and he, too, had found and used chain migration patterns to find people. A social historian, he looked too at people bringing with them customs and the way to do things. For instance, the style of a man's house might as well have been a flag on the roof. I took a few courses given by him & he put into words what I had also considered. Why did they leave (must have been daunting) and why did they go where they did? Bruce called it "push" and "pull" factors. In the "Push" factors are such things as economy and religion. Where they went was often because a relative/neighbour was doing better there & frequently, especially in early years, they followed the trade routes. There's a cute story about the young Irishman who crossed America to Oregon. After a couple of months on the very hot midwestern high plains, the wagon train reached the Rockies. He wrote back to his brother and said: "Paddy, you godda come here. They have so much land [that] they're stackin' it." Good luck with your search. And read local histories of places where your people lived. Bill Ruth Melander wrote: > I truly enjoy your knowledgable and thought provoking posting, Bill. Keep > them coming. > > It's odd, but when I started out I was mainly intent on gathering names and > going back generations. It was neat to rattle off the names of 10th and 11th > gr granparents. I've come to terms with that and instead of trying to > collect "how many" but have turned to "how much" > > Rather than to continue gathering names I want to try to understand the > forces and conviction and how much these things have influenced their lives. > I want to understand those events and circumstances that lead to religious > choice, migration etc etc. I now get more joy out of trying to flesh out > those old skeletons than gathering new ones. > > Ruth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Tufts" <dg052@freenet.carleton.ca> > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com>; "ns roots" <nsroots@ednet.ns.ca>; "Lunen > Links" <Lunen-Links-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:50 AM > Subject: [ NB ] How Big is your Family Tree? > > > >>Once in a while, someone swells up his chest and announces to me that he >>has 8,000 names in his family tree, or he has 25,000 names, or, or, >>or....... So, how big is your family tree? >> >>Columnist Pat MacAdam's column appeared in the Ottawa Sun last Sunday >>(May 13) and towards the end of it, he changed the subject and explained >>he had been asked by a university in Oregon for a DNA sample and they >>would pick up the $253 (US) cost. >> >>"The object of the DNA test was to determine if I might be a descendant of >>Brian Boru, one of the last great kings of Ireland and, therefore, I might >>be a Pretender to the Irish throne." >> >>He then explained how the university emailed him weekly reports and he >>and an orange grower in California shared 37 identical DNA markers. He >>concluded with: >> >>"Cold water was dashed on my dreams of ermine and purple when I read >>an online story about Genghis Khan. It seems that a team of credible PhDs >>has conjectured there might be between 16-17 million "offspring" of the >>warrior walking around with his DNA." >> >> >>Now, have you nearly finished collecting everyone in your family tree? >> >>Bill >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/803 - Release Date: 5/13/2007 >>12:17 PM >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I truly enjoy your knowledgable and thought provoking posting, Bill. Keep them coming. It's odd, but when I started out I was mainly intent on gathering names and going back generations. It was neat to rattle off the names of 10th and 11th gr granparents. I've come to terms with that and instead of trying to collect "how many" but have turned to "how much" Rather than to continue gathering names I want to try to understand the forces and conviction and how much these things have influenced their lives. I want to understand those events and circumstances that lead to religious choice, migration etc etc. I now get more joy out of trying to flesh out those old skeletons than gathering new ones. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tufts" <dg052@freenet.carleton.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com>; "ns roots" <nsroots@ednet.ns.ca>; "Lunen Links" <Lunen-Links-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: [ NB ] How Big is your Family Tree? > Once in a while, someone swells up his chest and announces to me that he > has 8,000 names in his family tree, or he has 25,000 names, or, or, > or....... So, how big is your family tree? > > Columnist Pat MacAdam's column appeared in the Ottawa Sun last Sunday > (May 13) and towards the end of it, he changed the subject and explained > he had been asked by a university in Oregon for a DNA sample and they > would pick up the $253 (US) cost. > > "The object of the DNA test was to determine if I might be a descendant of > Brian Boru, one of the last great kings of Ireland and, therefore, I might > be a Pretender to the Irish throne." > > He then explained how the university emailed him weekly reports and he > and an orange grower in California shared 37 identical DNA markers. He > concluded with: > > "Cold water was dashed on my dreams of ermine and purple when I read > an online story about Genghis Khan. It seems that a team of credible PhDs > has conjectured there might be between 16-17 million "offspring" of the > warrior walking around with his DNA." > > > Now, have you nearly finished collecting everyone in your family tree? > > Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/803 - Release Date: 5/13/2007 > 12:17 PM > >

They have a son Oswald Howe Bazley born 1906 in MA so I'd assume William A. Bazley would be born by about 1880. Have a lot on the Bazley line but can't fit this one with a parent. Do you have a time frame - have 4 William's - all spelt differently Would anyone know who the father of William who marries Bertha Bishop is? Thank you No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM

I'd suggest that the answer to Bill Tufts' question is really a question - how big do you want it to be? When most of us start working at our family trees, our concept of "genealogy" is rather different than what it can become. I set out to do a complete six-generation family tree including my children. I viewed that as an achievable, realistic objective. It took me about 20 months despite a long history and broad interest in genealogy within the various branches of my and my wife's families. And in the mean time I'd picked up several twigs that went back further than that. To put things in perspective, each set of your gg grandparents probably have about 1000 descendants (and their spouses.) So for 16 sets of gg grandparents, you're likely talking 15-20,000 descendants. Realistically, six generations will take you back to marriages in the mid-1800s (give or take perhaps 20 years, i.e., an ancestor who was the youngest child of a large family, etc.) And "reasonable" records (i.e., a paper trail you can trace,) are generally available for since that time, so the brick walls can be overcome with diligence and persistence. Based on my experience, completing the seventh generation which will take you back to people born about 1800) will take 1-2 times as long as it did to complete the first six generations, and you should be prepared to travel and breath a lot of dust if you want to achieve 90% + completeness. (By that I mean knowing all of your ggg grandparents' names, dates, etc.) My research suggests that your ggg grandparents probably will likely have 1250-2600 descendants (and their spouses.) So for 32 sets of ggg grandparents, you're likely talking about 64,000 descendants (if you could come close to finding them all.) In New Brunswick, you're likely to hit real barriers going back to the eighth generations. You may do it in some lines but the reality is that the paper records are going to get very scare!!!! If your ancestors were amongst the UEL settlers, you've still got a reasonable chance of success for this generation, but if they aren't UELs, you'll be tracing emigrants from a variety of countries, and many of the trails are stone cold!!!! NOTE: most people will also hit a language barrier after six generations in at least a couple of lines. It's hard enough to read the writing styles back then in English, let alone in some other language with which you are at best vaguely familiar. And don't forget that the level of education at that time was really pretty minimal for most people. So the answer to the question how big is your family tree now becomes "how high is your pain threshold?" for uou will be bashing your head against multiple brick walls by that point!!!!!

Would anyone know who the father of William who marries Bertha Bishop is? Thank you No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM

Do you have a time frame - have 4 William's - all spelt differently -----Original Message----- From: newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:newbrunswick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wanda Powell Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:23 PM To: newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Subject: [ NB ] William Bazley Would anyone know who the father of William who marries Bertha Bishop is? Thank you No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My posting of "How Big Is Your Family Tree?" had quite a bit of feedback, both online and off. My intent was to get people thinking how far they wanted to go, and if they thought they were nearly finished, there's always room for expansion. One lady sent me an email saying she had been misled for years because of a misinformed biography that came into her possession. And it was just recently someone posted an email to a message board along the same lines about a social climbing relative. Both women are right. Wording can be very important. This, too, is worth looking at. I wish I had kept the biography I read a few years ago. I still recall the gist of it, although there were more nuts and bolts to it and I am probably embellishing and refining the writing. John (I forget the last name) was born near the banks of the mighty Mississippi River in Illinois in the 1830s (or 1840s?). One day, while still a young man, he decided to seek his fortune in the American west and being young, he impulsively left home the same day. However, in his case, his impulsiveness turned out to be a very lucrative move. Soon after, he found himself in Texas. There he met some businessmen beginning an export business and he threw his complete enthusiasm into that business as a partner. The business expanded and flourished across the southwest, but over time, competition stiffened, so, twelve years later, he decided to move on. Due to his success, he was, by then, well known. After entering the travel industry in Colorado, his name became a household word and caught the attention of the Governor, who invited him to be his guest. John stayed with him for 4 years before the wanderlust drew him eastward where he retired and spent his reclining years quietly in a small town in Iowa. Before his death, the town held a party for him and almost everyone from a hundred miles around, attended. Like many others, after he died, his name was soon forgotten and he remains an obscure figure in history. Translation: While still a young man in Illinois, John fled his hometown when a certain girl's father came after him with a shotgun. Not only did he flee, but he stole his potential father-in-law's horse to get away in the dark shortly before his pending fatherhood. In Texas, he fell in with cattle rustlers who were driving stolen herds to market in Mexico. The thieves moved west ahead of the law into NM and AZ, but remained busy plying their trade as they went. When John became a most wanted man, then, for "reasons of health," he found it expedient to remove post haste to Colorado. However, he couldn't stay out of trouble when his attention was caught by the travel industry. He robbed enough trains to get the attention of the Governor, who issued a State wide warrant and made him priority No. 1 for the law enforcement establishment. John soon became a "guest" for 4 years in prison. His arrival in Iowa was preceded by his reputation and a year later, when someone's cattle disappeared, a mob publicly hanged him. The preceding is an extreme example of misrepresentation, but it emphasizes that each of us should be careful to be accurate when writing biographies of our family members. I've read many that are a bit confusing and to those writers, I would suggest they adopt the attitude that the reader has no knowledge of the subject and your job as author is to present it clearly and acurately. Proofread it and pick out the places where you know what you mean, but where your description is ambiguous or confusing to readers. Bill

My earliest MER[R]ITHEW is Elizabeth b. 1775, possibly near Maugerville, Northumberland. She married John MUNROE 23 July 1793 and died 1794, probably in childbirth. All I have are her birth and death dates. I have a Jemes MER{R]ITHEW b. abt 1815 in NB and married 28 Mar 1842 in NB. His children were born in NB up through 1875. I have never followed up on this information but perhaps you'll find a connection somewhere. Regards, Sharyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla Cummings" <csgfam@nb.sympatico.ca> To: <NEWBRUNSWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: [ NB ] MERRITHEW > hello > > I would like to get info on Merrithew in or around Douglas, NB > > also I am looking for parents of Joanne S Merrithew b 1786 d 1865 who > married to John Yerxa (s/o Johannes Jurckse and Catherine Gerow) b 1777 d > 28 Aug 1849 > > Thank you > Carla Cummings

Thanks Donald - I've just emailed them so we'll see what comes out of it. Regards Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "DONALD" <dderwin@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address > Chipman Public Library > telephone 506-339-5852 > > Chipman Villiage Office > E Mail villchip@nbnet.nb.ca > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ruth" <rco89791@bigpond.net.au> > To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address > > >> Don, >> >> Thanks for responding. Yes this is my uncle and I have his headstone >> photo >> and obituary. Problem is I don't have an address for his home. He also >> worked for a time in the lumber mill at Chipman - any idea how I could >> find >> them - my searching has come up blank - perhaps the mill no longer >> exists?? >> Is there some sort of historical body or local library for the area? >> >> Ruth in Sydney >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "DONALD" <dderwin@nbnet.nb.ca> >> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address >> >> >>> Hi Ruth if this is John Hart McKenzie >>> b/1909 d/1993 buried in >>> Cunberland Bay >>> United Church,Queens Co >>> no number for this church ,but there is one for United Church in >>> Chipman >>> wich is very close to Cumberland Bay >>> numbers 506-339-6827 >>> 506-339-6626 >>> they might be abel to help you with a picture Good Luck Don in NB >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "ruth" <rco89791@bigpond.net.au> >>> To: <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:43 AM >>> Subject: [ NB ] Cumberland Bay Queens's County Address >>> >>> >>>> HI, >>>> >>>> Would anyone know where I can find out my uncle John McKenzie's actual >>>> house address in Cumberland Bay? He lived there until being admitted >>>> to >>>> a >>>> nursing home following a stroke and I would dearly love a photo of his >>>> house for family records. >>>> >>>> He emigrated to Canada as a boy in 1924 and died in 1993. He lived >>>> around >>>> the area for fifty years or so. >>>> >>>> Any guidance much appreciated. >>>> >>>> Ruth in Sydney >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEWBRUNSWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

First thing that occurred to me was that they all picked up a little of the same nutrients while walking through that pasture.... At 5/14/2007 03:29 PM, Kendra wrote: >My great uncle was of Scottish descent >and his response when I asked if we were >related to someone was, "we all walked through >the same pasture." I assumed that he meant >that we might have been related distantly. Of course with my relatives, when asked if we were related to someone, our first response was: "Why?" Bob Geldart BGeldart@verizon.net Maynard, MA