Hi List, I an soooo hoping that someone who knows the HENDERSON family genalogy can sort this out for me. On the new Brenan's Funeral Home (panb) records online, the death record for Jane GIGGEY, age 92, Widow, shows that her husband was George Henderson; parents John GIGGEY & Rebecca GOLDING of Kingston Parish, Kings Co.; died 1932; bur Cedar Hill Cemetery, Saint John. Mrs. John FRODSHAM, daughter, was the informant on the record. The 1851 Kings Co. Census shows that John & Rebecca had a daughter Lydia J., age 13. Online, I found this: I have been on Gord Miller's Kingston Parish website and he shows the burial record below and could not sort it out. St. Paul's Cemetery records, Whitehead - burials without gravestones - shows the following record: 6. HENDERSON: = Eliza w/o John Henderson, ae 78 . . . . . . . . . . 12 Mar 1849 = Charles Henry Henderson, Centreton, ae 78 . . . . . 29 Mar 1902 *= Priscilla Jane Henderson, w/o George, ae 82 (Centreton) 8 Jun 1913* *= George Henderson, Centreton, ae 78. . . . . . . . . 14 Feb 1914* = Julia Ann Henderson, St. John, ae 73. . . . . . . . 1 Jun 1915 Henderson family records show this w/o George William HENDERSON as Priscilla "Jane" GIGGEY - parents unknown; bur 1913 w/ hsuband Geroge who died 1914. Other records show this family as having children Lavinia, etc. including daughter named Charlotte. The George E. HENDERSON who suddenly has a wife Jane on the 1881 Census - I don't know if this is the Jane GIGGEY d/o John & Rebecca (GOLDING) GIGGEY OR if she is even a GIGGEY. For me, the clue is the Mrs. John FRODSHAM who was the informant and the daughter of the Jane GIGGEY who died in 1932. According to NB Archives records, the wife of John FRODSHAM was Charlotte GIGGEY. I have searched through the various censuses and have found the following records - which have not answered the question. 2 George HENDERSONs - both with wives named Jane - but only one with a daughter named Charlotte. And the 1911 Jane HENDERSON, Widow, I don't know if she is even one of the Janes??? 1. 1881 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings, Kingston Parish Henderson - George E., Male, 40, New Brunswick, Ch of England, Irish, Farmer - Henry, Male, 59, New Brunswick, ChEngland, Irish - Julia, Female, 45, New Brunswick, ChEngland, Irish, Tayloress - Louisa, Female, 15, New Brunswick, ChEngland, Irish 2. 1881 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings, Kingston Parish HENDERSON - Geo. W., 43, New Brunswick, ChEngland, Irish, Farmer, Married - Jane, 42, New Brunswick, Baptist, Irish, Married w/ch Lavinia, Rebecca, *Charlotte,* Roberta, Herbert, Susan, George, Uriah HENDERSON John, Father, 83, Ireland, ChEngland, Irish, Farmer, Widower 3. 1891 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings Kingston Parish *** I don't know if this George Henderson's wife Jane was a Giggey. Henderson - George E., 51, New Brunswick, Father-Ireland, Mother-New Brunswick, ChEngland, Farmer - Jane, 50, Wife, U.S., Father-U.S, Mother-New Brunswick, ChEngland - Henry, 70, Brother, NB, Father-Ireland, Mother-NB, ChEngland 4. 1891 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Saint John, Portland Victoria Ward Henderson - George, 53, New Brunswick, Father-Ireland, Mother-NB, ChEngland, Farmer - Jane, 52, Wife, New Brunswick, Parents-New Brunswick, ChEngland w/ ch Bertie (female) 24 , Susan 21. George 19, Uriah 17 5. 1901 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings, Kingston Parish Henderson - Henry, Head, Single, 78, New Brunswick - George E., Brother, 61, 1839, ChEngland - Jane, 59, 1841, Sis-in-Law, New Brunswick, Father-U.S. American, Mother-New Brunswick, ChEngland 6. 1911 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings, Kingston Parish, White Head Henderson - George, 70, Jul 1840, New Brunswick, Irish, Anglican - Jane, 69, April 1841, New Brunswick, Origin English American, Canadian, Anglican Married daughter Bertha (Roberta/Bertie?) Boxold, 45, lvg w/ them. 7. 1911 Saint John, Lorne Ward enumerated w/ George Williams family Henderson Jane, Domestic, Widow, 72, Oct 1838, New Brunswick, English, Baptist Just tell me who is who and who is not who... and I'll be happy. Shirley

I am searching for the marriage and parents of Augustin Hache and Alma Lagace whose daughter Gertrude (born abt 1889) married Flavien Doucet 14 Sep 1908 at Charlo, Restigouche Co. NB. Flavien Doucet's parent were John Doucet and Genevieve (Jean) Levesque. Your help would be most appreciated. Elenore Kamloops, B.C.

Hi Shirley and Ruth, I have in my file: Muriel Isabel Pitt married Ray Scovil Giggey born July 16, 1895 in Whitehead, Kings Co. New Brunswick-married Sept. 21, 1922 in Kingston, Kings Co. New Brunswick. Mary Jane Phipps born 1811 Westfield, Kings Co. New Brunswick-married Elijah Spragg Oct. 20, 1830, Westfield, Kings Co. New Brunswick. "not our fault we have ancestors" [email protected] Marcia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Melander" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Collins PITT h/w Charlotte PHIPPS Hi Shirley Perhaps I'm clutching at straws but..... My Thomas Jones and his wife Susannah Pitts (they came to Fort Lawrence and I believe settled in Westmorland Co.) came from England in about 1818. Any chance your Pitt and my Pitts are related? Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: [ NB ] Collins PITT h/w Charlotte PHIPPS Hi List, Looking for death dates and cemetery for Collins Edward PITT (1837 - ) and his wife Charlotte PHIPPS (1841 - ). I found them last on the 1901 Greenwich Parish, Kings Co. Census. I've also found 3 of their children - Frank, Lena & Ernest buried at Brown's Flats Cemetery, Greenwich Parish and was wondering if they were buried there as well? Has a full listing of this cemetery been made? Charlotte PHIPPS parents were Edward J. PHIPPS (c1810-1880) & Jane GIGGEY (c1819 - ). I last found Jane (Giggey) PHIPPS on the 1881 Greenwich >> Parish census lvg/w married daughter Charlotte & her family. Searching >> for Jane's parents & death date. Perhaps they were buried in Brown's >> Flats Cemetery, also? Shirley

Hi Marcia, I'm wondering if Mary Jane Phipps was a sis/o Edward's? Born same time period, from same Parish. Shirley On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Marcia Donahue <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Shirley and Ruth, I have in my file: > Muriel Isabel Pitt married Ray Scovil > Giggey born July 16, 1895 in Whitehead, Kings Co. New Brunswick-married > Sept. 21, 1922 in Kingston, Kings Co. New Brunswick. > Mary Jane Phipps born 1811 Westfield, Kings Co. New Brunswick-married > Elijah > Spragg Oct. 20, 1830, Westfield, Kings Co. New Brunswick. > > "not our fault we have ancestors" > [email protected] > Marcia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ruth Melander" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Collins PITT h/w Charlotte PHIPPS > > > Hi Shirley > > Perhaps I'm clutching at straws but..... My Thomas Jones and his wife > Susannah Pitts (they came to Fort Lawrence and I believe settled in > Westmorland Co.) came from England in about 1818. Any chance your Pitt and > my Pitts are related? > > Ruth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:38 AM > Subject: [ NB ] Collins PITT h/w Charlotte PHIPPS > > Hi List, > Looking for death dates and cemetery for Collins Edward PITT (1837 - ) and > his wife Charlotte PHIPPS (1841 - ). I found them last on the 1901 > Greenwich > Parish, Kings Co. Census. I've also found 3 of their children - Frank, > Lena & Ernest buried at Brown's Flats Cemetery, Greenwich Parish and was > wondering > if they were buried there as well? Has a full listing of this cemetery > been > made? > > Charlotte PHIPPS parents were Edward J. PHIPPS (c1810-1880) & Jane GIGGEY > (c1819 - ). I last found Jane (Giggey) PHIPPS on the 1881 Greenwich > >> Parish census lvg/w married daughter Charlotte & her family. Searching > >> for Jane's parents & death date. Perhaps they were buried in Brown's > >> Flats Cemetery, > also? > > Shirley > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ruth, The family I'm looking for were from Kings Co. so I don't think so. A large number of Loyalists had settled the area. Shirley On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Ruth Melander <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Shirley > > Perhaps I'm clutching at straws but..... My Thomas Jones and his wife > Susannah Pitts (they came to Fort Lawrence and I believe settled in > Westmorland Co.) came from England in about 1818. Any chance your Pitt and > my Pitts are related? > > Ruth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:38 AM > Subject: [ NB ] Collins PITT h/w Charlotte PHIPPS > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > Looking for death dates and cemetery for Collins Edward PITT (1837 - ) > and > > his wife Charlotte PHIPPS (1841 - ). I found them last on the 1901 > > Greenwich > > Parish, Kings Co. Census. I've also found 3 of their children - Frank, > Lena > > & Ernest buried at Brown's Flats Cemetery, Greenwich Parish and was > > wondering > > if they were buried there as well? Has a full listing of this cemetery > been > > made? > > > > Charlotte PHIPPS parents were Edward J. PHIPPS (c1810-1880) & Jane GIGGEY > > (c1819 - ). I last found Jane (Giggey) PHIPPS on the 1881 Greenwich > > Parish census lvg/w married daughter Charlotte & her family. Searching > for > > Jane's parents & death date. Perhaps they were buried in Brown's Flats > > Cemetery, > > also? > > > > Shirley > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.57/2163 - Release Date: 06/08/09 > 12:30:00 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Shirley Perhaps I'm clutching at straws but..... My Thomas Jones and his wife Susannah Pitts (they came to Fort Lawrence and I believe settled in Westmorland Co.) came from England in about 1818. Any chance your Pitt and my Pitts are related? Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: [ NB ] Collins PITT h/w Charlotte PHIPPS > > Hi List, > > Looking for death dates and cemetery for Collins Edward PITT (1837 - ) and > his wife Charlotte PHIPPS (1841 - ). I found them last on the 1901 > Greenwich > Parish, Kings Co. Census. I've also found 3 of their children - Frank, Lena > & Ernest buried at Brown's Flats Cemetery, Greenwich Parish and was > wondering > if they were buried there as well? Has a full listing of this cemetery been > made? > > Charlotte PHIPPS parents were Edward J. PHIPPS (c1810-1880) & Jane GIGGEY > (c1819 - ). I last found Jane (Giggey) PHIPPS on the 1881 Greenwich > Parish census lvg/w married daughter Charlotte & her family. Searching for > Jane's parents & death date. Perhaps they were buried in Brown's Flats > Cemetery, > also? > > Shirley > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.57/2163 - Release Date: 06/08/09 12:30:00

Hi List, Looking for death dates and cemetery for Collins Edward PITT (1837 - ) and his wife Charlotte PHIPPS (1841 - ). I found them last on the 1901 Greenwich Parish, Kings Co. Census. I've also found 3 of their children - Frank, Lena & Ernest buried at Brown's Flats Cemetery, Greenwich Parish and was wondering if they were buried there as well? Has a full listing of this cemetery been made? Charlotte PHIPPS parents were Edward J. PHIPPS (c1810-1880) & Jane GIGGEY (c1819 - ). I last found Jane (Giggey) PHIPPS on the 1881 Greenwich Parish census lvg/w married daughter Charlotte & her family. Searching for Jane's parents & death date. Perhaps they were buried in Brown's Flats Cemetery, also? Shirley

Looking for Restigouche, New Brunswick, Canada.

Thanks Carolyn, The links were very informative. Debbie

http://www.iowa.gov/ethics/campaigns/consanguinity.htm Lana "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much, it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." Franklin D. Roosevelt --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote: From: Carolyn <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Relationships To: [email protected].com Received: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:23 PM Here is some information in terms of your request - Hopefully it helps - I have included sites that give descriptions as well as well as a Chart - Depending on the information you are seeking the chart may be all that is necessary. Check your genealogy data program as many will set relationships for you. I use Legacy and Family tree maker. I know they do. I find that attribute a very helpful tool. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consanguinity     Description http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Descent+and+Distribution Description http://www.geocities.com/bourbonstreet/1769/       Chart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bstack Sent: June-07-09 11:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ NB ] Relationships Is there website that describes the degrees of consanguinity? I'm wondering what relationship might be suggested by the following statement taken from a RC marriage record-- "after publication of banns and  dispensing of one impediment of consanguinity in the third degree, maslione non capta" Thanks Debbie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

For those looking for the Forest Hill Cemetery, the fellow's name is George Bidlake and he can be reached at [email protected] That was 2 years ago and the book was $42.00 plus shipping. Hope this helps Thelma  

Hi Grant & Bonny, I did a quick search in the Library of Canada Index and the online booksellers I use - without too much luck I may add. However: It looks as if the book was published in 2006 and the publisher is listed as: PUBLISHER: Fredericton, NB : South Devon Publishing, [2006] it may be worth while to track them down and see if they have an residuals you can buy. I did also notice there is a copy in the Library and Archives of Canada here in Ottawa and it should be available through ILL. Go to your local friendly library and tell them you want to borrow: AMICUS No. 32907976 and see if that works for you. :-) Malcolm Archive CD Books Canada Inc. President: Malcolm Moody PO Box 11 Manotick Ontario, K4M 1A2 Canada. (613) 692-2667 WEB SITE: http://www.ArchiveCDBooks.ca On 7 Jun, 2009, at 1:48 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:27:54 -0300 > From: "Bonny Pond" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Forest Hill Cemetery, Fredericton > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Sorry. That I don't know. I checked the holdings of the New > Brunswick > Libraries but didn't see it there. My usual suspects (book > sellers) do not > appear to have copies for sale either. > > Not sure where else to suggest you look. I suppose you could call > them > 506-455-4030) and ask. > > Bonny > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Bull > Sent: 03 June 2009 11:54 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Forest Hill Cemetery, Fredericton > > Hi bonny; where can one get a copy? > > Grant

Is there website that describes the degrees of consanguinity? I'm wondering what relationship might be suggested by the following statement taken from a RC marriage record-- "after publication of banns and dispensing of one impediment of consanguinity in the third degree, maslione non capta" Thanks Debbie

The following site tells how the Catholic Church views the varying degrees. "Consanguinity is a diriment impediment of marriage as far as the fourth degree of kinship inclusive." http://newadvent.org/cathen/04264a.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bstack Sent: June-07-09 11:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ NB ] Relationships Is there website that describes the degrees of consanguinity? I'm wondering what relationship might be suggested by the following statement taken from a RC marriage record-- "after publication of banns and dispensing of one impediment of consanguinity in the third degree, maslione non capta" Thanks Debbie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is some information in terms of your request - Hopefully it helps - I have included sites that give descriptions as well as well as a Chart - Depending on the information you are seeking the chart may be all that is necessary. Check your genealogy data program as many will set relationships for you. I use Legacy and Family tree maker. I know they do. I find that attribute a very helpful tool. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consanguinity Description http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Descent+and+Distribution Description http://www.geocities.com/bourbonstreet/1769/ Chart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bstack Sent: June-07-09 11:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ NB ] Relationships Is there website that describes the degrees of consanguinity? I'm wondering what relationship might be suggested by the following statement taken from a RC marriage record-- "after publication of banns and dispensing of one impediment of consanguinity in the third degree, maslione non capta" Thanks Debbie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry. That I don't know. I checked the holdings of the New Brunswick Libraries but didn't see it there. My usual suspects (book sellers) do not appear to have copies for sale either. Not sure where else to suggest you look. I suppose you could call them 506-455-4030) and ask. Bonny -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Bull Sent: 03 June 2009 11:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ NB ] Forest Hill Cemetery, Fredericton Hi bonny; where can one get a copy? Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonny Pond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Forest Hill Cemetery, Fredericton > Yes it was published. It's called: "Forest Hill Cemetery: A Biographical > Index" and it was very well done (pictures; obituaries; etc). I borrowed > it > from a friend. I do not have a copy myself so, unfortunately, cannot do > any > look-ups for you. > > Bonny > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Norman > Sent: 03 June 2009 01:03 > To: newbrunswicklist > Subject: [ NB ] Forest Hill Cemetery, Fredericton > > A few years ago, I seem to recall that someone was trying to make an index > or transcription to this cemetery but could only get it published if > enough > would-be buyers subscribed in advance. Does anyone know whether this book > ever made it off the presses? Is it available anywhere? Thanks much. > Carol Norman > [email protected] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, I am trying to find out who the "Widow Elizabeth LOUNDER" was in the 30 July 1839 Westfield Parish, Kings County marriage to William GIGGY / GIGGEY. Marriage record says that she was from Greenwich Parish, Kings Co. They are on the 1851 Westfield Parish; Elizabeth is age 50 (c1801) and then by the 1861 Census, William has died (1858) and she is now the Widow Elizabeth GIGGY, age 55 (c1805) enumerated in Greenwich Parish. The next person enumerated on the 1861 census is Benjamin LOUNDER, 40, and his wife Catherine. Catherine was Mary Catherine PARKER, daughter of Isaac & Mary Ann (Giggey) PARKER - Mary Ann (Giggey) Parker was the dau/o William GIGGY who had married the Widow LOUNDER. Benjamin LOUNDER's signature was also found in the 1859 Intestate papers of William GIGGY overseeing the inventory. Other researchers have Benjamin LOUNDER as the s/o Thomas & Eleanor ( ) LOUNDER. I've checked his brothers in case they married an Elizabeth and died before 1839 - but nothing. I also checked his sister Elizabeth c1809 but she appears to have married Thomas Morgan NASON and they had children from c1836-1850... so nothing there. I have been searching other LOUNDERS but they all seem to relate back to Thomas & Eleanor. Is anyone familiar with this family and has a fresh perspective on the Widow Elizabeth LOUNDER - oh, and I checked LOUNDEN / LOUDER and nothing. Shirley

Edinburgh University special collections says there is no record of a C. Bayard having studied medicine there, and wonders if the "C" could have been a mistranscribed "E" for Edwin, since Edwin Bayard graduated from Edinburgh in 1846, but another check of Johnson shows Edwin Bayard died in 1875, and the letter in question was written 1880...I checked Johnson for Charles Bayard too...he died of insanity and exposure in 1871. Like any good newspaperman, I will have to find another source to verify the "C," before I go with my first instinct! Man, I miss my newsroom :-( Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS Now available from Railfare-DC Books! "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. Also by Jay Underwood: http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Dr. C. Bayard, Saint John ca. 1880 > Jay... Now you're sure that C. wasn't an underdeveloped W? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jay Underwood > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Okay, here's another idea. There was a Catherine (daughter) enumerated >> with >> Dr. William Bayard under both variations of the name in 1881 and >> 1891...could she have signed the letter on William's behalf as his >> secretary? That kinda kills my "bogus doctor's note" theory :-( >> Has anyone ever run across that kind of thing? >> >> Jay Underwood >> Elmsdale NS >> >> >> Now available from Railfare-DC Books! >> "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. >> Also by Jay Underwood: >> http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html >> http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: >> > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: >> > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ >> > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Dr. C. Bayard, Saint John ca. 1880 >> >> >> > Hi Jay, >> > >> > Transcribed as BYAND - he's in Queens Co. on 1881 >> > >> http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1881/001049-119.01-e.php?id=NB_4760720&interval=20&PHPSESSID=pg2819duc3uuroonvkjbamh015 >> > >> > >> > BYARD - Saint John on 1891 >> > >> http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1881/001049-119.01-e.php?id=NB_4760720&interval=20&PHPSESSID=pg2819duc3uuroonvkjbamh015 >> > >> > Shirley >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Jay Underwood >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> Yes, I checked Dan Johnson's reliable archive, and found Robert and >> >> his >> >> sons >> >> Edwin and William, but no "C" Bayard. Also strange, is how William >> >> Bayard, >> >> who is mentioned in the press as late as 1893, can avoid being >> >> included >> >> in >> >> both the 1881 or 1891 federal census! >> >> >> >> Jay Underwood >> >> (A conspiracy theory is a'brewin!) >> >> Elmsdale >> >> >> >> Now available from Railfare-DC Books! >> >> "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. >> >> Also by Jay Underwood: >> >> http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html >> >> http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html >> >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: >> >> > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com >> >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: >> >> > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ >> >> > > >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:39 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Dr. C. Bayard, Saint John ca. 1880 >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dr. Wm Bayard also had a brother, Charles, but he was not a doctor. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Robber <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Quite possibly that was Dr. William Bayard of Saint John >> >> >> (1814-1907)...see >> >> >> his biography here: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=6544&&PHPSESSID=ychzfqkv >> >> >> zape >> >> >> >> >> >> But given the different initial possibly another member of the >> family; >> >> >> his >> >> >> father Robert and uncle Samuel were also doctors. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> www.familyheritage.ca >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jay >> >> >> Underwood >> >> >> Sent: June 3, 2009 8:19 PM >> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Dr. C. Bayard, Saint John ca. 1880 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is curious: I am researching a chap who was so stressed from >> >> >> his >> >> job >> >> >> that he got a Doctor C. Bayard of Saint John, NB to write him an >> >> >> Oct. >> >> >> 14 >> >> >> 1880 note seeking a year's leave of absence...I was going to check >> >> >> Dr. >> >> >> Bayard's first name in the 1881 census, only to find he wasn't >> >> >> there...can >> >> >> anyone supply details of Dr. C. Bayard? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanx >> >> >> Jay Underwood >> >> >> >> >> >> Now available from Railfare-DC Books! >> >> >> "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. >> >> >> Also by Jay Underwood: >> >> >> http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html >> >> >> http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html >> >> >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: >> >> >> > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com >> >> >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: >> >> >> > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ >> >> >> > > >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> >> the >> >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >> >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.52/2152 - Release Date: >> >> >> 06/03/09 >> >> >> 05:53:00 >> >> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> >> the >> >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > List Announcements can be found at >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > without >> >> the >> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Announcements can be found at >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, it's very definitely a fully-developed "C"! I wasn't really joking about the conspiracy theory, but I want to make sure I'm not seizing upon an otherwise easily explained phenomenon in order to make my case more credible. I have e-mailed Edinburgh University's special collections people to see if they have a "C. Bayard" on record. Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS Now available from Railfare-DC Books! "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. Also by Jay Underwood: http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Dr. C. Bayard, Saint John ca. 1880 > Jay... Now you're sure that C. wasn't an underdeveloped W? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jay Underwood > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Okay, here's another idea. There was a Catherine (daughter) enumerated >> with >> Dr. William Bayard under both variations of the name in 1881 and >> 1891...could she have signed the letter on William's behalf as his >> secretary? That kinda kills my "bogus doctor's note" theory :-( >> Has anyone ever run across that kind of thing? >> >> Jay Underwood >> Elmsdale NS >> >> >> Now available from Railfare-DC Books! >> "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. >> Also by Jay Underwood: >> http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html >> http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: >> > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: >> > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ >> > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Dr. C. Bayard, Saint John ca. 1880 >> >> >> > Hi Jay, >> > >> > Transcribed as BYAND - he's in Queens Co. on 1881 >> > >> http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1881/001049-119.01-e.php?id=NB_4760720&interval=20&PHPSESSID=pg2819duc3uuroonvkjbamh015 >> > >> > >> > BYARD - Saint John on 1891 >> > >> http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1881/001049-119.01-e.php?id=NB_4760720&interval=20&PHPSESSID=pg2819duc3uuroonvkjbamh015 >> > >> > Shirley >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Jay Underwood >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> Yes, I checked Dan Johnson's reliable archive, and found Robert and >> >> his >> >> sons >> >> Edwin and William, but no "C" Bayard. Also strange, is how William >> >> Bayard, >> >> who is mentioned in the press as late as 1893, can avoid being >> >> included >> >> in >> >> both the 1881 or 1891 federal census! >> >> >> >> Jay Underwood >> >> (A conspiracy theory is a'brewin!) >> >> Elmsdale >> >> >> >> Now available from Railfare-DC Books! >> >> "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. >> >> Also by Jay Underwood: >> >> http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html >> >> http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html >> >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: >> >> > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com >> >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: >> >> > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ >> >> > > >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:39 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Dr. C. Bayard, Saint John ca. 1880 >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dr. Wm Bayard also had a brother, Charles, but he was not a doctor. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Robber <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Quite possibly that was Dr. William Bayard of Saint John >> >> >> (1814-1907)...see >> >> >> his biography here: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=6544&&PHPSESSID=ychzfqkv >> >> >> zape >> >> >> >> >> >> But given the different initial possibly another member of the >> family; >> >> >> his >> >> >> father Robert and uncle Samuel were also doctors. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> www.familyheritage.ca >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jay >> >> >> Underwood >> >> >> Sent: June 3, 2009 8:19 PM >> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Dr. C. Bayard, Saint John ca. 1880 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is curious: I am researching a chap who was so stressed from >> >> >> his >> >> job >> >> >> that he got a Doctor C. Bayard of Saint John, NB to write him an >> >> >> Oct. >> >> >> 14 >> >> >> 1880 note seeking a year's leave of absence...I was going to check >> >> >> Dr. >> >> >> Bayard's first name in the 1881 census, only to find he wasn't >> >> >> there...can >> >> >> anyone supply details of Dr. C. Bayard? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanx >> >> >> Jay Underwood >> >> >> >> >> >> Now available from Railfare-DC Books! >> >> >> "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. >> >> >> Also by Jay Underwood: >> >> >> http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html >> >> >> http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html >> >> >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: >> >> >> > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com >> >> >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: >> >> >> > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ >> >> >> > > >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> >> the >> >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >> >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.52/2152 - Release Date: >> >> >> 06/03/09 >> >> >> 05:53:00 >> >> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> >> the >> >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > List Announcements can be found at >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > without >> >> the >> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Announcements can be found at >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message