Greetings, This update is dedicated to my brother-in-law, James Kenneth (Jim) Gardner (August 4, 1955-August 30, 2009). We are going to miss you Jimmy! The Pennfield Parish website has been updated once again. Here is a listing of what is new: What's new, September 4, 2009 Church & Cemetery Record Pennfield United Baptist Cemetery - added an updated obit. for Mary O'Brien. Military History Pennfield Ridge Air Station (Photographs: Air Station) - added three (3) new photographs. Pennfield Ridge Air Station (Photographs: Airmen - Miscellaneous) - added three (3) new photographs. Pennfield Ridge Air Station (Photographs: Airplanes) - added four (4) photographs. Pennfield Ridge Air Station (Photographs: Airmen - No.34 OTU) - added an updated photograph of "A" Flight (1944). Pennfield Ridge Air Station - No.34 OTU (Accident and/or Mishap Reports) - updated information about crash of Ventura FD697. Pennfield Ridge Air Station (Roll of Honor - Cemeteries) - added two (2) photographs from "Brookfield Cemetery" were P/O S.E. Sutherland is buried - thanks PPMHS! Pennfield Ridge Air Station (Roll of Honour - Memorials) - added four (4) photographs from "Memorial Park - Calgary" added. No.2 Air Navigation School (Remembering Those Who Served - added one (1) name for those stationed at the base. No.34 Operational Training Unit (Remembering Those Who Served) - added one (1) names for those stationed at the base. RCAF Station, Pennfield Ridge (Remembering Those Who Served) - added four (4) names for those stationed at the People BARRY, Robert - "Murmansk Run changed clergyman's life" added. Vital Statistics Pennfield Parish Strays (Who Are Buried Elsewhere) - added obits. for Helen Munroe and Gladys Stewart. To find additional information and/or links please see "What's New" section on the main page. Regards, G Christian Larsen Regards, G. Christian Larsen President - Pennfield Parish Military Historical Society President - Beaver Harbour Community Ventures Ltd. Coordinator for Pennfield Parish website Coordinator for Lepreau Parish website Research Projects: Pennfield Ridge Air Station, A-30 Canadian Infantry Training Centre, CA (Camp Utopia) & Pennfield Parish veterans http://pennfieldridgeairstation.blogspot.com/ http://www.beaverharbour.com/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbpennfi/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbleprea/

Hi List, I sent this out at the beginning of the Summer - but still am no further from solving this family puzzle. I am so hoping that there are some HENDERSON researchers who can straighten this out for me. On the new Brenan's Funeral Home (panb) records online, the death record for Jane GIGGEY, age 92, Widow, shows that her husband was George Henderson; parents John GIGGEY & Rebecca GOLDING of Kingston Parish, Kings Co.; died 1932; bur Cedar Hill Cemetery, Saint John. Mrs. John FRODSHAM, daughter, was the informant on the record. The 1851 Kings Co. Census shows that John & Rebecca had a daughter Lydia J., age 13. Online, I found this: I have been on Gord Miller's Kingston Parish website and he shows the burial record below and could not sort it out. St. Paul's Cemetery records, Whitehead - burials without gravestones - shows the following record: 6. HENDERSON: = Eliza w/o John Henderson, ae 78 . . . . . . . . . . 12 Mar 1849 = Charles Henry Henderson, Centreton, ae 78 . . . . . 29 Mar 1902 = Priscilla Jane Henderson, w/o George, ae 82 (Centreton) 8 Jun 1913 = George Henderson, Centreton, ae 78. . . . . . . . . 14 Feb 1914 = Julia Ann Henderson, St. John, ae 73. . . . . . . . 1 Jun 1915 Henderson family records show this w/o George William HENDERSON as Priscilla "Jane" GIGGEY - parents unknown; bur 1913 w/ hsuband Geroge who died 1914. Other records show this family as having children Lavinia, etc. including daughter named Charlotte. The George E. HENDERSON who suddenly has a wife Jane on the 1881 Census - I don't know if this is the Jane GIGGEY d/o John & Rebecca (GOLDING) GIGGEY OR if she is even a GIGGEY. For me, the clue is the Mrs. John FRODSHAM who was the informant and the daughter of the Jane GIGGEY who died in 1932. According to NB Archives records, the wife of John FRODSHAM was Charlotte GIGGEY. I have searched through the various censuses and have found the following records - which have not answered the question. 2 George HENDERSONs - both with wives named Jane - but only one with a daughter named Charlotte. And the 1911 Jane HENDERSON, Widow, I don't know if she is even one of the Janes??? 1. 1881 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings, Kingston Parish Henderson - George E., Male, 40, New Brunswick, Ch of England, Irish, Farmer - Henry, Male, 59, New Brunswick, ChEngland, Irish - Julia, Female, 45, New Brunswick, ChEngland, Irish, Tayloress - Louisa, Female, 15, New Brunswick, ChEngland, Irish 2. 1881 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings, Kingston Parish HENDERSON - Geo. W., 43, New Brunswick, ChEngland, Irish, Farmer, Married - Jane, 42, New Brunswick, Baptist, Irish, Married w/ch Lavinia, Rebecca, Charlotte, Roberta, Herbert, Susan, George, Uriah HENDERSON John, Father, 83, Ireland, ChEngland, Irish, Farmer, Widower 3. 1891 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings Kingston Parish *** I don't know if this George Henderson's wife Jane was a Giggey. Henderson - George E., 51, New Brunswick, Father-Ireland, Mother-New Brunswick, ChEngland, Farmer - Jane, 50, Wife, U.S., Father-U.S, Mother-New Brunswick, ChEngland - Henry, 70, Brother, NB, Father-Ireland, Mother-NB, ChEngland 4. 1891 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Saint John, Portland Victoria Ward Henderson - George, 53, New Brunswick, Father-Ireland, Mother-NB, ChEngland, Farmer - Jane, 52, Wife, New Brunswick, Parents-New Brunswick, ChEngland w/ ch Bertie (female) 24 , Susan 21. George 19, Uriah 17 5. 1901 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings, Kingston Parish Henderson - Henry, Head, Single, 78, New Brunswick - George E., Brother, 61, 1839, ChEngland - Jane, 59, 1841, Sis-in-Law, New Brunswick, Father-U.S. American, Mother-New Brunswick, ChEngland 6. 1911 CDN Census: New Brunswick, Kings, Kingston Parish, White Head Henderson - George, 70, Jul 1840, New Brunswick, Irish, Anglican - Jane, 69, April 1841, New Brunswick, Origin English American, Canadian, Anglican Married daughter Bertha (Roberta/Bertie?) Boxold, 45, lvg w/ them. 7. 1911 Saint John, Lorne Ward enumerated w/ George Williams family Henderson Jane, Domestic, Widow, 72, Oct 1838, New Brunswick, English, Baptist Just tell me who is who and who is not who... and I'll be happy. Shirley

Oh, Carol... Love your comments.... I sooo know what you mean!! There are 2 death records (Kent co. & Westmorland co.) on the NB Archives website for a Grgrandmother of mine. It was odd so I ordered both. Both of them had the right father for her but on the 2nd record there was a totally different woman. Well, you can imagine the scandal that would have caused! I've had those records for years and have searched and searched for that "other" woman - the informant was the local Priest. The informant for the correct document was the son-in-law. As well, the dates didn't connect for a 2nd wife.... though in the back of my mind, I knew that, that name didn't just materialize out of nowhere. It wasn't until last year, when I found out that my Grgrandmother's Mother's line had also moved from PEI to NB & suddenly there was the "other" woman's name. She must have been there that day in some capacity for the Priest to write her name as the Mother. One never knows... :>) Thanks for tips. Shirley On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Carol Norman <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have to agree with John Elliott that what you are seeing was probably a > clerical error. Even so-called offical documents often have errors in them. > In our family, we have a minister who wrote in his baptism log book that he > baptized "Eliza" when the child was really "Edward!" And I can't count the > number of mixups over "Alfred" vs. "Albert." I, too, have seen "James" and > "John" mixed up, not because it was an accepted custom, but because it was > a common mistake. > > This is why genealogists recommend that you try to acquire MORE THAN ONE > record or proof for each event--such as each birth, each marriage, death, > etc. (I know that with New Brunswick genealogy, one is very lucky to find > even ONE, especially when you get back to the 1700's!). The idea is that > when there's a conflict or discrepancy, you evaluate the timeliness of each > document and the authority of the person who supplied the record. Then you > have to decide which name, or which date, etc., is the most likely to be > correct. For example, a document or record that was made close in time to > the actual occurrence of the event is more likely to be correct than one > that represents some person's recollection from memory of an event that > happened 50 years ago. And a document created by someone "in the know" > such as a close relative is more likely to be correct than a record where > the info was supplied by a neighbor, a tax collector, the person who > carved a cemetery headstone, or a newspaper reporter. > > Example--I have a death certificate from New York on an elderly man that > says that the person's birthplace was "Albany, NY." But I had always > thought that this person had been born in New Brunswick. The death cert > informant was a hospital employee in NY. The rest of my searching showed > that the person migrated from New Brunswick to NY in the 1870's, with no > wife, no children, etc., who could have served as a good informant. (In > fact, we suspect that he was running away from a wife whom he had > abandoned, so he probably tried to hide his real background from his new > acquaintences in NY). Also, the fact that this hospital employee left the > lines for date of birth & parents' names blank suggests that he didn't > really know very much about the deceased. Now, if I were to find a birth > record from New Brunswick, where the informant was probably the child's own > father, or a family Bible, or his father's probate record, or anything that > was written by a close relative and/or written closer to the actual time > that this guy was born, I would consider THAT information to be more > accurate than the NY death certificate. > > Trying to gather more records is certainly burdensome, but it is also fun & > very satisfying when you are able to resolve a discrepancy. And we are > supposed to be having fun in genealogy, right? (Smile!) > > Well, good luck with old James/John Guiggy/Giggey etc! > > Carol Norman > [email protected] > > > >

I have to agree with John Elliott that what you are seeing was probably a clerical error. Even so-called offical documents often have errors in them. In our family, we have a minister who wrote in his baptism log book that he baptized "Eliza" when the child was really "Edward!" And I can't count the number of mixups over "Alfred" vs. "Albert." I, too, have seen "James" and "John" mixed up, not because it was an accepted custom, but because it was a common mistake. This is why genealogists recommend that you try to acquire MORE THAN ONE record or proof for each event--such as each birth, each marriage, death, etc. (I know that with New Brunswick genealogy, one is very lucky to find even ONE, especially when you get back to the 1700's!). The idea is that when there's a conflict or discrepancy, you evaluate the timeliness of each document and the authority of the person who supplied the record. Then you have to decide which name, or which date, etc., is the most likely to be correct. For example, a document or record that was made close in time to the actual occurrence of the event is more likely to be correct than one that represents some person's recollection from memory of an event that happened 50 years ago. And a document created by someone "in the know" such as a close relative is more likely to be correct than a record where the info was supplied by a neighbor, a tax collector, the person who carved a cemetery headstone, or a newspaper reporter. Example--I have a death certificate from New York on an elderly man that says that the person's birthplace was "Albany, NY." But I had always thought that this person had been born in New Brunswick. The death cert informant was a hospital employee in NY. The rest of my searching showed that the person migrated from New Brunswick to NY in the 1870's, with no wife, no children, etc., who could have served as a good informant. (In fact, we suspect that he was running away from a wife whom he had abandoned, so he probably tried to hide his real background from his new acquaintences in NY). Also, the fact that this hospital employee left the lines for date of birth & parents' names blank suggests that he didn't really know very much about the deceased. Now, if I were to find a birth record from New Brunswick, where the informant was probably the child's own father, or a family Bible, or his father's probate record, or anything that was written by a close relative and/or written closer to the actual time that this guy was born, I would consider THAT information to be more accurate than the NY death certificate. Trying to gather more records is certainly burdensome, but it is also fun & very satisfying when you are able to resolve a discrepancy. And we are supposed to be having fun in genealogy, right? (Smile!) Well, good luck with old James/John Guiggy/Giggey etc! Carol Norman [email protected] > 1. Re: Deeds - 2 different given names ?? (John Elliott) > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:47:06 -0300 > From: "John Elliott" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Deeds - 2 different given names ?? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Shirley, > > I've never known of James and John being used interchangeably - though > I've certainly known of errors due to the speaker or writer simply letting > their mouth or pen get ahead of their brain and accidentally substituting a > similar sounding name. (I do it all the time if I'm not being careful!!!) > I'd suspect this was simply a case of the clerk making a plain old > garden-variety mistake.! > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:58 AM > Subject: [ NB ] Deeds - 2 different given names ?? > > > > Hi List, > > > > I have a 1795 Deed with 2 different given names recorded on the document - > > which, of course, has led to a lot of confusion and speculation.It has > > "James Guiggy" in the title of the document but then "John Guiggy" > > is written in the record, itself. > > I had heard that the James>John were sometimes back then used > > interchangeably but I've never seen it before. > > Any thoughts?? > > > > Shirley

Shirley: Like John, I've never known James and John to be interchangeable. Could it be possible that he was James John Guiggan or John James Guiggan. Without seeing the document the other possibility is that James and John might be father and son and some confusion transpired. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Elliott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Deeds - 2 different given names ?? > Hi Shirley, > > I've never known of James and John being used interchangeably - though > I've certainly known of errors due to the speaker or writer simply letting > their mouth or pen get ahead of their brain and accidentally substituting > a > similar sounding name. (I do it all the time if I'm not being careful!!!) > I'd suspect this was simply a case of the clerk making a plain old > garden-variety mistake.! > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:58 AM > Subject: [ NB ] Deeds - 2 different given names ?? > > >> Hi List, >> >> I have a 1795 Deed with 2 different given names recorded on the >> document - >> which, of course, has led to a lot of confusion and speculation.It has >> "James Guiggy" in the title of the document but then "John Guiggy" >> is written in the record, itself. >> I had heard that the James>John were sometimes back then used >> interchangeably but I've never seen it before. >> Any thoughts?? >> >> Shirley >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

He has been John on every other document that has been found so far. There is another record dated 1808/09 where it is titled James Guige. We don't know if this is a son that we have no record on OR is the same John Giggey - Loyalist. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Gail Judge <[email protected]> wrote: > Shirley: > > Like John, I've never known James and John to be interchangeable. Could it > be possible that he was James John Guiggan or John James Guiggan. Without > seeing the document the other possibility is that James and John might be > father and son and some confusion transpired. > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Elliott" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Deeds - 2 different given names ?? > > > > Hi Shirley, > > > > I've never known of James and John being used interchangeably - though > > I've certainly known of errors due to the speaker or writer simply > letting > > their mouth or pen get ahead of their brain and accidentally substituting > > a > > similar sounding name. (I do it all the time if I'm not being careful!!!) > > I'd suspect this was simply a case of the clerk making a plain old > > garden-variety mistake.! > > > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:58 AM > > Subject: [ NB ] Deeds - 2 different given names ?? > > > > > >> Hi List, > >> > >> I have a 1795 Deed with 2 different given names recorded on the > >> document - > >> which, of course, has led to a lot of confusion and speculation.It has > >> "James Guiggy" in the title of the document but then "John Guiggy" > >> is written in the record, itself. > >> I had heard that the James>John were sometimes back then used > >> interchangeably but I've never seen it before. > >> Any thoughts?? > >> > >> Shirley > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can you give me the words before and after the names... Rose Staples UE [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of S. Olfert Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ NB ] Deeds - 2 different given names ?? Hi List, I have a 1795 Deed with 2 different given names recorded on the document - which, of course, has led to a lot of confusion and speculation.It has "James Guiggy" in the title of the document but then "John Guiggy" is written in the record, itself. I had heard that the James>John were sometimes back then used interchangeably but I've never seen it before. Any thoughts?? Shirley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2343 - Release Date: 09/03/09 05:50:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2343 - Release Date: 09/04/09 05:51:00

Oops! That should have been Susie NICE Colwell - what did I say about getting ahead of my brain??!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Elliott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] St John Marriage lookup,pls : 1873 & 1876 DODGE - COLWELL & FLEETWOOD > Saint John Marriage Register H > > Frederick Theodore Dodge (Saint John) m. Susie Nive Colwell (Saint > John) - 1 Oct 1873 by Rev. Theodore Dowling (Rector, St. George's > Anglican, > Carleton) > > > Saint John Marriage Register I > > Frederick T. Dodge (Saint John) m. Elizabeth Fleetweood (Saint John) - > 1 > May 1876 by Rev. D.B. Pamther (Rector, St. Jude's, Carleton) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:03 AM > Subject: [ NB ] St John Marriage lookup,pls : 1873 & 1876 DODGE - COLWELL > & > FLEETWOOD > > >> Hi List, >> >> I found 2 Saint John Marriage Bonds for a Frederick Theodore DODGE & >> Frederick T. DODGE and I'm pretty sure it's the same person - >> 1873 to Susie N. COLWELL and 1876 to Elizabeth FLEETWOOD. Susie Nice >> (Colwell) Dodge died in 1874. I am looking for the actual dates of >> marriage. >> >> Shirley >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Saint John Marriage Register H Frederick Theodore Dodge (Saint John) m. Susie Nive Colwell (Saint John) - 1 Oct 1873 by Rev. Theodore Dowling (Rector, St. George's Anglican, Carleton) Saint John Marriage Register I Frederick T. Dodge (Saint John) m. Elizabeth Fleetweood (Saint John) - 1 May 1876 by Rev. D.B. Pamther (Rector, St. Jude's, Carleton) ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:03 AM Subject: [ NB ] St John Marriage lookup,pls : 1873 & 1876 DODGE - COLWELL & FLEETWOOD > Hi List, > > I found 2 Saint John Marriage Bonds for a Frederick Theodore DODGE & > Frederick T. DODGE and I'm pretty sure it's the same person - > 1873 to Susie N. COLWELL and 1876 to Elizabeth FLEETWOOD. Susie Nice > (Colwell) Dodge died in 1874. I am looking for the actual dates of > marriage. > > Shirley > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Shirley, I've never known of James and John being used interchangeably - though I've certainly known of errors due to the speaker or writer simply letting their mouth or pen get ahead of their brain and accidentally substituting a similar sounding name. (I do it all the time if I'm not being careful!!!) I'd suspect this was simply a case of the clerk making a plain old garden-variety mistake.! John ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:58 AM Subject: [ NB ] Deeds - 2 different given names ?? > Hi List, > > I have a 1795 Deed with 2 different given names recorded on the document - > which, of course, has led to a lot of confusion and speculation.It has > "James Guiggy" in the title of the document but then "John Guiggy" > is written in the record, itself. > I had heard that the James>John were sometimes back then used > interchangeably but I've never seen it before. > Any thoughts?? > > Shirley > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks again... just what I needed. Have a great day! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:12 AM, John Elliott <[email protected]>wrote: > Oops! That should have been Susie NICE Colwell - what did I say about > getting ahead of my brain??!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Elliott" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] St John Marriage lookup,pls : 1873 & 1876 DODGE - > COLWELL & FLEETWOOD > > > > Saint John Marriage Register H > > > > Frederick Theodore Dodge (Saint John) m. Susie Nive Colwell (Saint > > John) - 1 Oct 1873 by Rev. Theodore Dowling (Rector, St. George's > > Anglican, > > Carleton) > > > > > > Saint John Marriage Register I > > > > Frederick T. Dodge (Saint John) m. Elizabeth Fleetweood (Saint John) - > > 1 > > May 1876 by Rev. D.B. Pamther (Rector, St. Jude's, Carleton) > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:03 AM > > Subject: [ NB ] St John Marriage lookup,pls : 1873 & 1876 DODGE - COLWELL > > & > > FLEETWOOD > > > > > >> Hi List, > >> > >> I found 2 Saint John Marriage Bonds for a Frederick Theodore DODGE & > >> Frederick T. DODGE and I'm pretty sure it's the same person - > >> 1873 to Susie N. COLWELL and 1876 to Elizabeth FLEETWOOD. Susie Nice > >> (Colwell) Dodge died in 1874. I am looking for the actual dates of > >> marriage. > >> > >> Shirley > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Rose, The 1795 Deed's title is "*Tertullus Theall to James Guiggy "* ** Wording in the document... "*to us paid by John Guiggy, Farmer, and residing in the County of Kings..."* *.... " unto the said John Guiggy, his Heirs and..." *(written twice in 2 separate paragraphs) Shirley On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Rose Staples <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you give me the words before and after the names... > > Rose Staples UE > [email protected] > > > >

Hi List, I found 2 Saint John Marriage Bonds for a Frederick Theodore DODGE & Frederick T. DODGE and I'm pretty sure it's the same person - 1873 to Susie N. COLWELL and 1876 to Elizabeth FLEETWOOD. Susie Nice (Colwell) Dodge died in 1874. I am looking for the actual dates of marriage. Shirley

Hi List, I have a 1795 Deed with 2 different given names recorded on the document - which, of course, has led to a lot of confusion and speculation.It has "James Guiggy" in the title of the document but then "John Guiggy" is written in the record, itself. I had heard that the James>John were sometimes back then used interchangeably but I've never seen it before. Any thoughts?? Shirley

Hi again, Shirley, The registers were at the Court House until the new Service New Brunswick building was built in Hampton a few years ago when they were moved there. Within the last couple of years all the old registers were taken to Fredericton and digitized. Although I have not used them since, I understand that the digital images can be accessed online - for a fee. I believe the access would be through the Service New Brunswick system. The provincial archives in Fredericton also holds microfilms of all these old registers, including the indices. I don't believe the actual originals are accessible any longer. The items I cited were taken from my own personal transcripts (which I had done several years ago from the microfilm). Consequently they are subject to double checking. I realized that I forgot to look for the Guiggey/Guiggie/Guiggy spellings. When I went back I found another document which may help to explain a bit about what he was up to. In Register G-1, pp205-8 on 8 Nov. 1800, is a mortgage from John Guiggy of Westfield, yeoman, and Mary his wife to Munson Jarvis & William Whitlock, merchants of Saint John (who held a lot of mortgages!) for the following property: 2 lots on west side of Grand Bay in Par. of Westfield, lots #10 & 15 - #10 having been purchased by Colonel David Fanning of Jacob Dill & Thomas Hale the original grantees & #15 by said David Fanning of the original grantees, John P. Lynch & Daniel Watters & by said David Fanning conveyed to said John Guiggy - ea. lot 200 acres m/l - also the claim of John Guiggy & Mary his wife have by virtue of a quit claim from said David Fanning to a tract of ungranted land in Par. of Westfield #12 in 2nd range of what is called Campbells Survey on W side of Grand Bay of 200 acres m/l in rear of #10 in Bedells Survey I also discovered that the purchase from David Fanning dated the same day (8 Nov. 1800) was registered just before the mortgage (pp 203-4) under the apparent spelling "Quiggy" (no wonder I didn't find it originally!!) So . . . this pushes him back to at least 1800 in Westfield. Apparently John had financial problems, for in Register L-1, pp 176-184, I found that Munson Jarvis & William Whitlock recovered debts against him in court in 1813 and consequently the above named lots #10 & 15 were seized by the Sheriff and sold by auction on 20 Jan. 1814. Hope this helps a bit. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Loyalists of NB by EC Wright, lookup, pls > John... one thing, the registers that you sourced, are they the ones that > were at the Kings co. court house? or do you have an index? > > Shirley > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:54 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> John.... I have some of these documents and I really don't understand >> all of the details so your explanation really helps. I'm wondering why >> he didn't petition for land earlier say in 1783 or 84 or 85 - why not >> until 1803. I'm sure he wasn't the only one but so many petitioned and >> were granted land a lot earlier - 20 years earlier. Could it be that >> records were lost which given the circumstances would seem plausible. >> >> As always... I appreciate your help. >> >> Shirley >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM, John Elliott >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi Shirley, >>> >>> Thought there might be a possibility of him buying property before he >>> received a grant. However, I can tell you there are no mentions of any >>> Giggeys in the Kings County Land Registry books until Book I-1 in the >>> spring >>> of 1803 when John Giggy is mentioned as having lands adjacent to lot #9, >>> Brandy Point on Grand Bay in the Parish of Westfield. The lot in >>> question >>> was being sold by William Hayter of Saint John and John Giggy was only >>> mentioned as having land bounding on the lot being sold. The next Giggy >>> mention is William Giggy buying half of lot #21 on the west side of the >>> Long >>> Reach in the Parish of Westfield from Lawrence Neal on 8 Jan . 1816 >>> (Register M-1) William later sold this half lot on 18 June 1823 to John >>> Sharp (Register Q-1). John Giggy's property at Grand Bay was mentioned >>> again as a bounding property in a sale of Nov. 1819. >>> >>> Apparently John Giggy was on hand in Westfield Parish by 1803 - >>> possibly >>> living on a lot he was "improving" in hopes of receiving a grant or >>> possibly >>> leasing from someone else?? >>> >>> All I can offer you for now.. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cleadie, I was curious about John Crabb since his son Richard Arnold Crabb/Crabtree had married a Mary Giggey. She is shown as being the dau/o the Loyalist John Giggey but no proof. Plus they appear to have moved around a lot from NB >Maine>Northumberland Co. NB>Illinois. There's a discrepancy with Mary's place of birth : Illinois censuses show New Brunswick while their son James, in a much later biography, said that his Mother had been born in Virginia. Well, you can imagine what this has done to the records.... just trying to sort it all out. If you have anything that might shed light on any of this, please, by all means, send it to me offline at [email protected] thanks again... Shirley On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Cleadie B <[email protected]> wrote: > There is Crabb data on the Gorham mss at > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbpast/KI/ki-gorham7.html > > Here is a rough outline of the early John Crabb family - needs a lot of > work, but might help. I have many more misc items, will send off list if > interested. Cleadie B. > > > John Crabb, I (01) (Sr.) (03), b. 26 Jun 1741 (04) m. Elizabeth Bassett > (01/04), > b. 12 Jul 1749 (04), d/o Arnold Bassett (04) b. 29 Mar 1727 (04) & > Elizabeth > [...] (04) b. 27 Sep 1727 (04) > > > 1 i Stephen (01/04); adult-1783 / 64-1823 / 82-1851 (01); b. 23 > Oct 1766 > (04) [or 1757] (01), NY (01); d. 1859, Greenwich Parish, Kings Co, > NB (02). He and wife both buried at St Paul's Anglican Cemetery, Oak > Pt. (02); m. Mary [...] (01) d. 1883 ae 85 yrs (01) > ii William (04); b. 23 Dec 1767 (04) > 2 iii John (01/03); adult-1783 / 82-1851 (01); b. 10 Oct 1770 > (04); m.1 > Elizabeth [ ] (01); m.2 Mary [ ] (01) d. 1846 (01); m.3 Ann > [...] (01) b. 1791 (01) > iv Elizabeth (01/04); over 10-1783 (01); m. 1 May 1790, Hugh Brown > (04) > b. 4 Jun 1743 (04) > v Mary (01/04); adult-1783 (01); b. 15 Jul 1773 (04) > vi Nancy (04); b. 27 Feb 1775 (04) > vii Priscilla (04); b. 2 Nov 1777 (04) > viii Charity (04); under 10-1783 (04); b. 22 Oct 1779 (04) > ix William (04); b. 30 Jul 1782 (04) > x Frank (04); b. 21 Oct 1786 (04) > xi Richard Arnold (04); b. 30 Nov 1789 (04) > xii Elizabeth Harris (04); b. 1 Jun 1792 (04) > > REFERENCES: > 01: Duane E. Crabtree > > One source he used was the passenger list from the "Cyrus". The Mary > listed as an adult in 1783 is possibly an older child than the one b. in > 1773. > 02: New Brunswick Loyalist, S. Dubeau > Stephen Crabb from Dutchess Co, NY, s/o John. He arrived in NB in > Sept 1783 on the Cyrus, with father and bro., John, Jr. He was granted a > town lot in 1784 in Parrtown, later rec'd land at Gagetown, and eventually > settled in Greenwhich Parish, Kings Co, NB. There he d. in 1859, wife Mary > d. there also in 1853 ae 85 yrs. Both were buried in St Pauls Anglican > Church Cemetery, Oak Pt. Daughters were Charity (40-1851) and Maria > (30-1851). > 03: Early Loyalist Saint John, D. Bell > John, Sr. / Unit 31 / 11210 May and June 1784 > John, Jr. / Unit 31 / 10000 May and June 1784 > Stephen / Unit 31 / 10000 May and June 1784 > 04: MC-1, PANB Brown file > > > ________________________________ > From: S. Olfert <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 10:01:01 AM > Subject: [ NB ] Loyalists of NB by EC Wright, lookup, pls > > Hi List, > > I am hoping someone will have the book, The Loyalists of New Brunswick by > Esther Clark Wright. > I'm looking for the information on 2 Loyalists: John GIGGEY (Giggy, > Guiggy) > & John CRABB or CRABTREE > and what it might say about their families. > > Thanks so much. > > Shirley > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your > favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John, So they're online?? I know of the Service New Brunswick site that you speak of but I didn't realize how extensive the records are. The write-up on John Giggey was great... you are always so thorough when you answer peoples' queries... thanks again. Shirley On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:19 PM, John Elliott <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi again, Shirley, > > The registers were at the Court House until the new Service New > Brunswick building was built in Hampton a few years ago when they were > moved > there. Within the last couple of years all the old registers were taken to > Fredericton and digitized. Although I have not used them since, I > understand that the digital images can be accessed online - for a fee. I > believe the access would be through the Service New Brunswick system. The > provincial archives in Fredericton also holds microfilms of all these old > registers, including the indices. I don't believe the actual originals are > accessible any longer. The items I cited were taken from my own personal > transcripts (which I had done several years ago from the microfilm). > Consequently they are subject to double checking. > > I realized that I forgot to look for the Guiggey/Guiggie/Guiggy > spellings. When I went back I found another document which may help to > explain a bit about what he was up to. In Register G-1, pp205-8 on 8 Nov. > 1800, is a mortgage from John Guiggy of Westfield, yeoman, and Mary his > wife > to Munson Jarvis & William Whitlock, merchants of Saint John (who held a > lot > of mortgages!) for the following property: > 2 lots on west side of Grand Bay in Par. of Westfield, lots #10 & 15 - > #10 having been purchased by Colonel David Fanning of Jacob Dill & Thomas > Hale the original grantees & #15 by said David Fanning of the original > grantees, John P. Lynch & Daniel Watters & by said David Fanning conveyed > to > said John Guiggy - ea. lot 200 acres m/l - also the claim of John Guiggy & > Mary his wife have by virtue of a quit claim from said David Fanning to a > tract of ungranted land in Par. of Westfield #12 in 2nd range of what is > called Campbells Survey on W side of Grand Bay of 200 acres m/l in rear of > #10 in Bedells Survey > > I also discovered that the purchase from David Fanning dated the same > day (8 Nov. 1800) was registered just before the mortgage (pp 203-4) under > the apparent spelling "Quiggy" (no wonder I didn't find it originally!!) > So . . . this pushes him back to at least 1800 in Westfield. > > Apparently John had financial problems, for in Register L-1, pp 176-184, > I found that Munson Jarvis & William Whitlock recovered debts against him > in > court in 1813 and consequently the above named lots #10 & 15 were seized by > the Sheriff and sold by auction on 20 Jan. 1814. > > Hope this helps a bit. > > John > > > > > >

Hi Shirley, Thought there might be a possibility of him buying property before he received a grant. However, I can tell you there are no mentions of any Giggeys in the Kings County Land Registry books until Book I-1 in the spring of 1803 when John Giggy is mentioned as having lands adjacent to lot #9, Brandy Point on Grand Bay in the Parish of Westfield. The lot in question was being sold by William Hayter of Saint John and John Giggy was only mentioned as having land bounding on the lot being sold. The next Giggy mention is William Giggy buying half of lot #21 on the west side of the Long Reach in the Parish of Westfield from Lawrence Neal on 8 Jan . 1816 (Register M-1) William later sold this half lot on 18 June 1823 to John Sharp (Register Q-1). John Giggy's property at Grand Bay was mentioned again as a bounding property in a sale of Nov. 1819. Apparently John Giggy was on hand in Westfield Parish by 1803 - possibly living on a lot he was "improving" in hopes of receiving a grant or possibly leasing from someone else?? All I can offer you for now.. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Loyalists of NB by EC Wright, lookup, pls > Thank you to one and all... these records are all great. > John Giggey appears to be the elusive one. We have him in the land > petitions, etc. > but not until later years and I notice that even in the information just > sent, there > is nothing that makes reference to earlier records. For example, John > Giggey received his Grant in 1809 (unless there are Grants which are > missing??) and John Crabb received his Grant in 1785. > > It's all appreciated. > > Shirley > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:34 AM, David Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There is a John Crab listed in the "Return of the Number of >> Loyalists gone to Saint John's River in Nova Scotia. He is listed in the >> Company of John O'Blenus and William Secord. Unfortunately that >> particular >> Company does not list the number of people in the Company, so the three >> names are all that exist. >> > > > > >> >> In her list of New Brunswick Loyalists: >> >> John Crabb, 2nd Lt Co. 29 of Duchess Co, NY whose first grant was P565 (I >> think that's in Saint John) and a subsequent grant in Long Reach, Kings >> Co. >> >> John Crabb, Jr of Duchess Co. NY whose first grant was P647 and a >> subsequent grant in Kings Co. >> >> Stephen Crabb of Duchess Co. NY whose first grant was P646 and a >> subsequent >> grant in Gagetown. >> >> James Crabb of the 3rd New Jersey Volunteers whose first grant was P465; >> no >> subsequent grant. >> >> John Gigge (Guiggey) of the Loyal American Regiment who was granted land >> in >> Kings Co. >> >> >> At 09:01 AM 03 09 2009, S. Olfert wrote: >> >Hi List, >> > >> >I am hoping someone will have the book, The Loyalists of New Brunswick >> >by >> >Esther Clark Wright. >> >I'm looking for the information on 2 Loyalists: John GIGGEY (Giggy, >> Guiggy) >> >& John CRABB or CRABTREE >> >and what it might say about their families. >> > >> >Thanks so much. >> > >> >Shirley >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >List Announcements can be found at >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enbcharlo/nblistann.htm> >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >the >> >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> David Reed ([email protected]) >> Toronto, Ontario, Canada >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enbcharlo/nblistann.htm> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John... one thing, the registers that you sourced, are they the ones that were at the Kings co. court house? or do you have an index? Shirley On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:54 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > John.... I have some of these documents and I really don't understand > all of the details so your explanation really helps. I'm wondering why > he didn't petition for land earlier say in 1783 or 84 or 85 - why not > until 1803. I'm sure he wasn't the only one but so many petitioned and > were granted land a lot earlier - 20 years earlier. Could it be that > records were lost which given the circumstances would seem plausible. > > As always... I appreciate your help. > > Shirley > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM, John Elliott <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi Shirley, >> >> Thought there might be a possibility of him buying property before he >> received a grant. However, I can tell you there are no mentions of any >> Giggeys in the Kings County Land Registry books until Book I-1 in the >> spring >> of 1803 when John Giggy is mentioned as having lands adjacent to lot #9, >> Brandy Point on Grand Bay in the Parish of Westfield. The lot in question >> was being sold by William Hayter of Saint John and John Giggy was only >> mentioned as having land bounding on the lot being sold. The next Giggy >> mention is William Giggy buying half of lot #21 on the west side of the >> Long >> Reach in the Parish of Westfield from Lawrence Neal on 8 Jan . 1816 >> (Register M-1) William later sold this half lot on 18 June 1823 to John >> Sharp (Register Q-1). John Giggy's property at Grand Bay was mentioned >> again as a bounding property in a sale of Nov. 1819. >> >> Apparently John Giggy was on hand in Westfield Parish by 1803 - >> possibly >> living on a lot he was "improving" in hopes of receiving a grant or >> possibly >> leasing from someone else?? >> >> All I can offer you for now.. >> >> Regards, >> >> John >> >> >> >> >

There is Crabb data on the Gorham mss at http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbpast/KI/ki-gorham7.html Here is a rough outline of the early John Crabb family - needs a lot of work, but might help. I have many more misc items, will send off list if interested. Cleadie B. John Crabb, I (01) (Sr.) (03), b. 26 Jun 1741 (04) m. Elizabeth Bassett (01/04), b. 12 Jul 1749 (04), d/o Arnold Bassett (04) b. 29 Mar 1727 (04) & Elizabeth [...] (04) b. 27 Sep 1727 (04) 1 i Stephen (01/04); adult-1783 / 64-1823 / 82-1851 (01); b. 23 Oct 1766 (04) [or 1757] (01), NY (01); d. 1859, Greenwich Parish, Kings Co, NB (02). He and wife both buried at St Paul's Anglican Cemetery, Oak Pt. (02); m. Mary [...] (01) d. 1883 ae 85 yrs (01) ii William (04); b. 23 Dec 1767 (04) 2 iii John (01/03); adult-1783 / 82-1851 (01); b. 10 Oct 1770 (04); m.1 Elizabeth [ ] (01); m.2 Mary [ ] (01) d. 1846 (01); m.3 Ann [...] (01) b. 1791 (01) iv Elizabeth (01/04); over 10-1783 (01); m. 1 May 1790, Hugh Brown (04) b. 4 Jun 1743 (04) v Mary (01/04); adult-1783 (01); b. 15 Jul 1773 (04) vi Nancy (04); b. 27 Feb 1775 (04) vii Priscilla (04); b. 2 Nov 1777 (04) viii Charity (04); under 10-1783 (04); b. 22 Oct 1779 (04) ix William (04); b. 30 Jul 1782 (04) x Frank (04); b. 21 Oct 1786 (04) xi Richard Arnold (04); b. 30 Nov 1789 (04) xii Elizabeth Harris (04); b. 1 Jun 1792 (04) REFERENCES: 01: Duane E. Crabtree One source he used was the passenger list from the "Cyrus". The Mary listed as an adult in 1783 is possibly an older child than the one b. in 1773. 02: New Brunswick Loyalist, S. Dubeau Stephen Crabb from Dutchess Co, NY, s/o John. He arrived in NB in Sept 1783 on the Cyrus, with father and bro., John, Jr. He was granted a town lot in 1784 in Parrtown, later rec'd land at Gagetown, and eventually settled in Greenwhich Parish, Kings Co, NB. There he d. in 1859, wife Mary d. there also in 1853 ae 85 yrs. Both were buried in St Pauls Anglican Church Cemetery, Oak Pt. Daughters were Charity (40-1851) and Maria (30-1851). 03: Early Loyalist Saint John, D. Bell John, Sr. / Unit 31 / 11210 May and June 1784 John, Jr. / Unit 31 / 10000 May and June 1784 Stephen / Unit 31 / 10000 May and June 1784 04: MC-1, PANB Brown file ________________________________ From: S. Olfert <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 10:01:01 AM Subject: [ NB ] Loyalists of NB by EC Wright, lookup, pls Hi List, I am hoping someone will have the book, The Loyalists of New Brunswick by Esther Clark Wright. I'm looking for the information on 2 Loyalists: John GIGGEY (Giggy, Guiggy) & John CRABB or CRABTREE and what it might say about their families. Thanks so much. Shirley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.