Hi Beverly, The following is a link to Charles Benjamin's page on the "Canadian Great War Project's" web site. There is quite a lot of information about his service and it might give you a lead to some more personal data somewhere: http://www.canadiangreatwarproject.com/searches/soldierDetail.asp?ID=106602 Hope it helps. Malcolm Archive CD Books Canada Inc. President: Malcolm Moody PO Box 11 Manotick Ontario, K4M 1A2 Canada. (613) 692-2667 WEB SITE: http://www.ArchiveCDBooks.ca FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ontario-CA/Archive-CD-Books-Canada/99339348650 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:37 PM > Subject: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB > > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my >> great >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson >> *Charles >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months >> after >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and >> *Isobella >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my >> grandmother >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there >> and I m >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 >> as it >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the >> family >> or someone might know where he was taken down. >> >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone >> has >> more >> personal infomration. >> -- >> Beverley Clarkson >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And at Camp Utopia near St. George for the Air Force. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Underwood Sent: November 4, 2009 10:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ NB ] Charles Barker of Devon, NB The training was not necessarily local. In the First World War the two major training areas in Eastren Canada were at Aldershot, NS, and near Montreal. I believe "4th Draft C.O.R." refers to the fourth group of recruits gathered to go to Europe to reinforce existing regiments in the theater of operations. They did not always serve as provincial corps, sometimes New Brunswick men would find themselves in France serving in a Nova Scotia or Quebec regiment, and vice versa. Jay Underwood Elmsdale Now available from Railfare-DC Books! "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. Also by Jay Underwood: http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Charles Barker of Devon, NB > great idea thanks. I assume that training would have taken place there > snce > that is where he signed up. > > B > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Don Dunbar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> SInce Charles died within months of enlisting and the Commonwealth War >> Graves Commission doesn't have him their database, it is very probable >> that >> he didn't make it overseas. He may have been ill or training accidents >> were >> also common. You might check the Saint John newspapers for the report >> of >> his passing. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB >> >> >> > Hi Beverley, >> > >> > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have >> > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this >> > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their >> > information >> > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will >> > probably >> > >> > be able to contact them and correct the error. >> > >> > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. >> > www.automatedgenealogy.com >> > >> > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library >> > to >> > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits >> > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind >> > enough to retrieve them for you. >> > >> > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' >> > currently >> > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy >> > Vital Records. >> > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. >> > >> > Good luck! >> > >> > Shirley >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the >> >> train >> >> wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d >> >> been >> >> through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been >> >> wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could >> >> check >> >> the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? >> >> >> >> Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, >> >> including >> >> his >> >> attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think >> >> the >> >> War >> >> Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. >> There >> >> are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. >> >> >> >> I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so >> its >> >> a >> >> long way to PANB. >> >> >> >> Beverley >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives >> >> > site >> >> > under "Cemeteries" but his >> >> > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. >> >> > >> >> > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=2607 2 >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Beverley, >> >> > > >> >> > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o >> >> > Charles >> >> > > William >> >> > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North >> >> > > Devon, >> >> > York >> >> > > Co., age >> >> > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers >> >> > > and >> >> that >> >> > > he was buried >> >> > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Det ail&casualty=2755847 >> >> > > >> >> > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of >> >> > > Remembrance - >> a >> >> > copy >> >> > > of the page is >> >> > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards >> >> > attending >> >> > > the various Books of >> >> > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different >> >> > > than >> >> > > what you are showing), then >> >> > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this >> >> > > page..." >> >> > > and they will tell you >> >> > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at >> that >> >> > time. >> >> > > >> >> > > Shirley >> >> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < >> >> [email protected] >> >> > >wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and >> >> > >> my >> >> > great >> >> > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson >> >> > >> *Charles >> >> > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 >> >> > >> months >> >> after >> >> > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and >> >> > >> *Isobella >> >> > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my >> >> > >> grandmother >> >> > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there >> and >> >> > >> I >> >> m >> >> > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov >> >> > >> 11 >> >> > >> as >> >> it >> >> > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in >> >> > >> the >> >> > family >> >> > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping >> >> > >> someone >> >> > >> has >> >> > >> more >> >> > >> personal infomration. >> >> > >> -- >> >> > >> Beverley Clarkson >> >> > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > >> without >> >> > the >> >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > List Announcements can be found at >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > without >> >> the >> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Beverley Clarkson >> >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Announcements can be found at >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Beverley Clarkson > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And the challenge grows. But it firms my resolve; the poor boy needs to be found. he was pretty much alone except for his elderly grandmother and absent parents; died too soon for a family of his own. His story matter to me and by the number of people here who have helped, it hits a note for all of us in memory of those kids and their terrible sacrifice, especially in WWI.. Thanks for sharing this; military history is far outside my experience. Beverley On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jay Underwood <[email protected] > wrote: > The training was not necessarily local. In the First World War the two > major > training areas in Eastren Canada were at Aldershot, NS, and near Montreal. > > I believe "4th Draft C.O.R." refers to the fourth group of recruits > gathered > to go to Europe to reinforce existing regiments in the theater of > operations. > > They did not always serve as provincial corps, sometimes New Brunswick men > would find themselves in France serving in a Nova Scotia or Quebec > regiment, > and vice versa. > > Jay Underwood > Elmsdale > > > Now available from Railfare-DC Books! > "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. > Also by Jay Underwood: > http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html > http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com > > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Charles Barker of Devon, NB > > > > great idea thanks. I assume that training would have taken place there > > snce > > that is where he signed up. > > > > B > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Don Dunbar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> SInce Charles died within months of enlisting and the Commonwealth War > >> Graves Commission doesn't have him their database, it is very probable > >> that > >> he didn't make it overseas. He may have been ill or training accidents > >> were > >> also common. You might check the Saint John newspapers for the report > >> of > >> his passing. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:10 AM > >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB > >> > >> > >> > Hi Beverley, > >> > > >> > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have > >> > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this > >> > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their > >> > information > >> > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will > >> > probably > >> > > >> > be able to contact them and correct the error. > >> > > >> > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. > >> > www.automatedgenealogy.com > >> > > >> > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library > >> > to > >> > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits > >> > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind > >> > enough to retrieve them for you. > >> > > >> > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' > >> > currently > >> > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will > copy > >> > Vital Records. > >> > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. > >> > > >> > Good luck! > >> > > >> > Shirley > >> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > > >> >> Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the > >> >> train > >> >> wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d > >> >> been > >> >> through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been > >> >> wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could > >> >> check > >> >> the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of > 1918? > >> >> > >> >> Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, > >> >> including > >> >> his > >> >> attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think > >> >> the > >> >> War > >> >> Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. > >> There > >> >> are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. > >> >> > >> >> I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so > >> its > >> >> a > >> >> long way to PANB. > >> >> > >> >> Beverley > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick > Archives > >> >> > site > >> >> > under "Cemeteries" but his > >> >> > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. > >> >> > > >> >> > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > Beverley, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; > s/o > >> >> > Charles > >> >> > > William > >> >> > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North > >> >> > > Devon, > >> >> > York > >> >> > > Co., age > >> >> > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers > >> >> > > and > >> >> that > >> >> > > he was buried > >> >> > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 > >> >> > > > >> >> > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of > >> >> > > Remembrance - > >> a > >> >> > copy > >> >> > > of the page is > >> >> > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards > >> >> > attending > >> >> > > the various Books of > >> >> > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is > different > >> >> > > than > >> >> > > what you are showing), then > >> >> > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this > >> >> > > page..." > >> >> > > and they will tell you > >> >> > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at > >> that > >> >> > time. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Shirley > >> >> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> > >wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and > >> >> > >> my > >> >> > great > >> >> > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson > >> >> > >> *Charles > >> >> > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 > >> >> > >> months > >> >> after > >> >> > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and > >> >> > >> *Isobella > >> >> > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > >> >> > >> grandmother > >> >> > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there > >> and > >> >> > >> I > >> >> m > >> >> > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov > >> >> > >> 11 > >> >> > >> as > >> >> it > >> >> > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in > >> >> > >> the > >> >> > family > >> >> > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping > >> >> > >> someone > >> >> > >> has > >> >> > >> more > >> >> > >> personal infomration. > >> >> > >> -- > >> >> > >> Beverley Clarkson > >> >> > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > >> >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> >> > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> >> > >> without > >> >> > the > >> >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> >> > List Announcements can be found at > >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> >> > ------------------------------- > >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> >> > without > >> >> the > >> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Beverley Clarkson > >> >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> >> List Announcements can be found at > >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> the > >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > List Announcements can be found at > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Beverley Clarkson > > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

Jay.. 2 other children are showing on the NS Archives site for them: AMY FOOT 23 Dec 1866 Halifax NS (transcribed as AMY but does look like ANNY) Death record: 04 Mar 1867 Halifax NS Ella FOOT 21 Feb 1868 Halifax NS Death record: 20 Mar 1868 Halifax NS Plus birth records for Ada & Harry - different birth years. Shirley <http://mdvitalrec.net/cfm/dsp_jump.cfm?CurrentPage=340> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > Jay... > > Heritage Quest > > 1900 US Census: Maryland, Baltimore, Baltimore > Dated 07 June 1900 > > FOOTE > - Thomas, Head, White, Male, Mar 1838, 62, Widower, England, > Father-Ireland, Mother-England, Immigrated 1882, > In US 18y, Alien, RR Agt > FOOTE > - Aida, Dau, Female, Aug 1874, 25, Single, Canada, Father-England, > Mother-Canada, Imm 1882, US 18y > - Harry, Son, Male, Apr 1877, 23, Single, Canada, (same), Agt ? > - Frederick, Son, Male, Jun 1878, 21, Single, Canada, (same), Musican > - Thomas, Son, Male, Aug 188( ), 19, Single, Canada, (same, At college > > > Shirley > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Jay Underwood < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Is anyone working on details of the family of Thomas and Agnes (McCully) >> Foot(e) formerly of Moncton, who left the province ca. 1882 for Baltimore >> MD? They had four childred, Ada, Harry, Frederic & Hubert. >> >> Agnes, a daughter of judge Jonathan McCully died in 1895 leaving Thomas an >> estate worth $30,000. He was alive in 1900 so I may find him in the 1900 US >> census...just thought I'd check here before subscribing to Ancestry again >> (and risk the wrath of the household finance officer!). >> >> He was chief accountant of the Intercolonial Railway when he was working >> in Moncton. He had been born in England in 1838 (I have no parentage yet) >> and arrived in Nova Scotia ca. 1854 to work in the office of the Nova Scotia >> Railway. >> >> Jay Underwood >> Elmsdale NS >> >> Now available from Railfare-DC Books! >> "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. >> Also by Jay Underwood: >> http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html >> http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: >> > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com >> > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: >> > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ >> > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

The training was not necessarily local. In the First World War the two major training areas in Eastren Canada were at Aldershot, NS, and near Montreal. I believe "4th Draft C.O.R." refers to the fourth group of recruits gathered to go to Europe to reinforce existing regiments in the theater of operations. They did not always serve as provincial corps, sometimes New Brunswick men would find themselves in France serving in a Nova Scotia or Quebec regiment, and vice versa. Jay Underwood Elmsdale Now available from Railfare-DC Books! "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. Also by Jay Underwood: http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Charles Barker of Devon, NB > great idea thanks. I assume that training would have taken place there > snce > that is where he signed up. > > B > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Don Dunbar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> SInce Charles died within months of enlisting and the Commonwealth War >> Graves Commission doesn't have him their database, it is very probable >> that >> he didn't make it overseas. He may have been ill or training accidents >> were >> also common. You might check the Saint John newspapers for the report >> of >> his passing. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB >> >> >> > Hi Beverley, >> > >> > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have >> > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this >> > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their >> > information >> > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will >> > probably >> > >> > be able to contact them and correct the error. >> > >> > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. >> > www.automatedgenealogy.com >> > >> > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library >> > to >> > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits >> > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind >> > enough to retrieve them for you. >> > >> > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' >> > currently >> > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy >> > Vital Records. >> > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. >> > >> > Good luck! >> > >> > Shirley >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the >> >> train >> >> wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d >> >> been >> >> through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been >> >> wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could >> >> check >> >> the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? >> >> >> >> Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, >> >> including >> >> his >> >> attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think >> >> the >> >> War >> >> Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. >> There >> >> are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. >> >> >> >> I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so >> its >> >> a >> >> long way to PANB. >> >> >> >> Beverley >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives >> >> > site >> >> > under "Cemeteries" but his >> >> > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. >> >> > >> >> > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Beverley, >> >> > > >> >> > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o >> >> > Charles >> >> > > William >> >> > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North >> >> > > Devon, >> >> > York >> >> > > Co., age >> >> > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers >> >> > > and >> >> that >> >> > > he was buried >> >> > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 >> >> > > >> >> > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of >> >> > > Remembrance - >> a >> >> > copy >> >> > > of the page is >> >> > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards >> >> > attending >> >> > > the various Books of >> >> > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different >> >> > > than >> >> > > what you are showing), then >> >> > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this >> >> > > page..." >> >> > > and they will tell you >> >> > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at >> that >> >> > time. >> >> > > >> >> > > Shirley >> >> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < >> >> [email protected] >> >> > >wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and >> >> > >> my >> >> > great >> >> > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson >> >> > >> *Charles >> >> > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 >> >> > >> months >> >> after >> >> > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and >> >> > >> *Isobella >> >> > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my >> >> > >> grandmother >> >> > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there >> and >> >> > >> I >> >> m >> >> > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov >> >> > >> 11 >> >> > >> as >> >> it >> >> > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in >> >> > >> the >> >> > family >> >> > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping >> >> > >> someone >> >> > >> has >> >> > >> more >> >> > >> personal infomration. >> >> > >> -- >> >> > >> Beverley Clarkson >> >> > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > >> without >> >> > the >> >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > List Announcements can be found at >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > without >> >> the >> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Beverley Clarkson >> >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> List Announcements can be found at >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Announcements can be found at >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Beverley Clarkson > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone working on details of the family of Thomas and Agnes (McCully) Foot(e) formerly of Moncton, who left the province ca. 1882 for Baltimore MD? They had four childred, Ada, Harry, Frederic & Hubert. Agnes, a daughter of judge Jonathan McCully died in 1895 leaving Thomas an estate worth $30,000. He was alive in 1900 so I may find him in the 1900 US census...just thought I'd check here before subscribing to Ancestry again (and risk the wrath of the household finance officer!). He was chief accountant of the Intercolonial Railway when he was working in Moncton. He had been born in England in 1838 (I have no parentage yet) and arrived in Nova Scotia ca. 1854 to work in the office of the Nova Scotia Railway. Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS Now available from Railfare-DC Books! "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. Also by Jay Underwood: http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > >

great idea thanks. I assume that training would have taken place there snce that is where he signed up. B On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Don Dunbar <[email protected]> wrote: > SInce Charles died within months of enlisting and the Commonwealth War > Graves Commission doesn't have him their database, it is very probable that > he didn't make it overseas. He may have been ill or training accidents > were > also common. You might check the Saint John newspapers for the report of > his passing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB > > > > Hi Beverley, > > > > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have > > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this > > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their > > information > > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will > > probably > > > > be able to contact them and correct the error. > > > > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. > > www.automatedgenealogy.com > > > > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library to > > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits > > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind > > enough to retrieve them for you. > > > > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' > > currently > > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy > > Vital Records. > > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Shirley > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the > >> train > >> wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d > >> been > >> through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been > >> wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could > >> check > >> the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? > >> > >> Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, including > >> his > >> attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the > >> War > >> Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. > There > >> are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. > >> > >> I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so > its > >> a > >> long way to PANB. > >> > >> Beverley > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives > >> > site > >> > under "Cemeteries" but his > >> > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. > >> > > >> > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 > >> > > >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Beverley, > >> > > > >> > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o > >> > Charles > >> > > William > >> > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North > >> > > Devon, > >> > York > >> > > Co., age > >> > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and > >> that > >> > > he was buried > >> > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 > >> > > > >> > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - > a > >> > copy > >> > > of the page is > >> > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards > >> > attending > >> > > the various Books of > >> > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different > >> > > than > >> > > what you are showing), then > >> > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this > >> > > page..." > >> > > and they will tell you > >> > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at > that > >> > time. > >> > > > >> > > Shirley > >> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < > >> [email protected] > >> > >wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my > >> > great > >> > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson > >> > >> *Charles > >> > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months > >> after > >> > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and > >> > >> *Isobella > >> > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > >> > >> grandmother > >> > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there > and > >> > >> I > >> m > >> > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 > >> > >> as > >> it > >> > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the > >> > family > >> > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. > >> > >> > >> > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone > >> > >> has > >> > >> more > >> > >> personal infomration. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Beverley Clarkson > >> > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > >> without > >> > the > >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > List Announcements can be found at > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Beverley Clarkson > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

Jay... Heritage Quest 1900 US Census: Maryland, Baltimore, Baltimore Dated 07 June 1900 FOOTE - Thomas, Head, White, Male, Mar 1838, 62, Widower, England, Father-Ireland, Mother-England, Immigrated 1882, In US 18y, Alien, RR Agt FOOTE - Aida, Dau, Female, Aug 1874, 25, Single, Canada, Father-England, Mother-Canada, Imm 1882, US 18y - Harry, Son, Male, Apr 1877, 23, Single, Canada, (same), Agt ? - Frederick, Son, Male, Jun 1878, 21, Single, Canada, (same), Musican - Thomas, Son, Male, Aug 188( ), 19, Single, Canada, (same, At college On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Jay Underwood <[email protected]>wrote: > Is anyone working on details of the family of Thomas and Agnes (McCully) > Foot(e) formerly of Moncton, who left the province ca. 1882 for Baltimore > MD? They had four childred, Ada, Harry, Frederic & Hubert. > > Agnes, a daughter of judge Jonathan McCully died in 1895 leaving Thomas an > estate worth $30,000. He was alive in 1900 so I may find him in the 1900 US > census...just thought I'd check here before subscribing to Ancestry again > (and risk the wrath of the household finance officer!). > > He was chief accountant of the Intercolonial Railway when he was working in > Moncton. He had been born in England in 1838 (I have no parentage yet) and > arrived in Nova Scotia ca. 1854 to work in the office of the Nova Scotia > Railway. > > Jay Underwood > Elmsdale NS > > Now available from Railfare-DC Books! > "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. > Also by Jay Underwood: > http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html > http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com > > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Beverley, There is a time period - early 1900s - where bmd records are missing - and it appears that Charles Benjamin BARKER and his Mother's records are not showing online. I think because of the missing records during this time period that it has created a lot of family "mysteries". 1891 census: Grparents, Judson & Ida B.?? as well as Charles William BARKER, http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-110.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=jcinrogupp2mcs134tiva2oss3&q1=barker&q2=judson&q3=&q4=&q5=&q6=&q7=&q8=&interval=20 1901 census: Judson & wife Isabella with an 11-year old nephew, Walter Thompson recorded with them. http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/View.jsp?id=8562&highlight=31&desc=1901+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+I%3Fbella+Barker 1911 census: Judson & Isabella BARKER (transcribed BARBER) with mother-in-law Margaret THOMPSON?? On the actual record, it appears more that Margaret was a Sister-in-law, born May 1864 (not 1834) age 46 (not 76) - transcribed incorrectly. http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=24711&highlight=44&desc=1911+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Judson+Barber Concerning the War Memorial, it would be interesting to find who had sent in the information on Charle's father and what the source was. Shirley On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks for his Shirley. > I will correct the information on the war memorial as soon as I read the > obits; I am very confident I have it right. yes the elderly grandparents > raised him yet his perants were alive. Whether too ill, poor or something > else is a mystery. TB was common then so perhaps they were incapacitated. > > The family arrived in Saint John on the Sidonia in 1874 from Scotland ( > Thanks to Daniel Johnson) > > I ve just asked someone to check the Archives for obits but if they cannot; > I'll try your suggestions. One time somebody gave me a simple look up as a > random act that opened the floodgates to my irish family. I dont want to > overuse it; it a fabulous resource. > > Thanks again > > beverley > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Beverley, > > > > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have > > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this > > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their > information > > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will > > probably > > > > be able to contact them and correct the error. > > > > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. > > www.automatedgenealogy.com > > > > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library to > > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits > > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind > > enough to retrieve them for you. > > > > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' > > currently > > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy > > Vital Records. > > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Shirley > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the > > train > > > wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d > > been > > > through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been > > > wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could > > check > > > the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? > > > > > > Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, > including > > > his > > > attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the > > War > > > Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. > There > > > are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. > > > > > > I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so > its > > a > > > long way to PANB. > > > > > > Beverley > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives > > site > > > > under "Cemeteries" but his > > > > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. > > > > > > > > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Beverley, > > > > > > > > > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o > > > > Charles > > > > > William > > > > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North > > Devon, > > > > York > > > > > Co., age > > > > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers > and > > > that > > > > > he was buried > > > > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 > > > > > > > > > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - > a > > > > copy > > > > > of the page is > > > > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards > > > > attending > > > > > the various Books of > > > > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different > > than > > > > > what you are showing), then > > > > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this > > page..." > > > > > and they will tell you > > > > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at > that > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > Shirley > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < > > > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and > my > > > > great > > > > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson > > *Charles > > > > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months > > > after > > > > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and > > *Isobella > > > > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > > > > >> grandmother > > > > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there > and > > I > > > m > > > > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 > > as > > > it > > > > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in > the > > > > family > > > > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. > > > > >> > > > > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone > > has > > > > >> more > > > > >> personal infomration. > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Beverley Clarkson > > > > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > >> List Announcements can be found at > > > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > > > >> ------------------------------- > > > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > > > the > > > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > List Announcements can be found at > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Beverley Clarkson > > > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > List Announcements can be found at > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Beverley Clarkson > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For all those who helped, these are thew obits from the Gleaner: THE DAILY GLEANER, Saturday MARCH, 16, 1918 *The funeral of Corp. Charles Barker occurred yesterday afternoon at the home in North Devon, Rev. Milton Addison conducting the service, assisted by Rev. H C. Archer, Favorite hymns were sung by a quartette consisting of Cecil Holder, Frank Cooper, John Eddey, Chas. McLean. There was a large military escort from the Fourth Draft, C.O.R. under command of Lieut. Griffin. Pall-bearers from, the escort. The floral tributes were: Circle from family; wreath, Engineers from Water Works; bouquets, Douglas Gordon, Mr. and Mrs. John Merryman, Mr. and Mrs. Walter McGinn. The internment took place at Pickard’s Cemetery. (F2945) * THE DAILY GLEANER, Tuesday April 9, 1918 *The following were the floral tributes at the funeral of the late Mrs. Isabelle Barker: Husband, broken circle; Mayor and City Council, wreath; George Street Baptist Missionary Aid Society, basket; Mr. and Mrs. William Farrell, flat bouquet; Mr. and Mrs. Goodrich Jarvis, flat bouquet; Miss Evelyn Hurley, flat bouquet; Mr. and Mrs. Edward Hurley, flat bouquet; Burton Keirstead, flat bouquet; Mr. and Mrs. Fred Lyons, flat bouquet; Mr. and Mrs. Chas. Barker, Mrs. Sarah Barker, Mr. and Mrs. Clowes banks, flat bouquet; Mr. and Mrs. McKilligan, flat bouquet. (F2945) * Now. Does anyone have any idea what the Fourth Draft C.O.R. was??? It now occurs to me that he might have been killed in training. ill try for death records next not sure if they are available. B On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks for his Shirley. > I will correct the information on the war memorial as soon as I read the > obits; I am very confident I have it right. yes the elderly grandparents > raised him yet his perants were alive. Whether too ill, poor or something > else is a mystery. TB was common then so perhaps they were incapacitated. > > The family arrived in Saint John on the Sidonia in 1874 from Scotland ( > Thanks to Daniel Johnson) > > I ve just asked someone to check the Archives for obits but if they cannot; > I'll try your suggestions. One time somebody gave me a simple look up as a > random act that opened the floodgates to my irish family. I dont want to > overuse it; it a fabulous resource. > > Thanks again > > beverley > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Beverley, >> >> The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have >> been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this >> site with no information on parents so I was able send in their >> information >> as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will >> probably >> >> be able to contact them and correct the error. >> >> Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. >> www.automatedgenealogy.com >> >> Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library to >> where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits >> or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind >> enough to retrieve them for you. >> >> As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' >> currently >> showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy >> Vital Records. >> http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Shirley >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> > Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the >> train >> > wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d >> been >> > through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been >> > wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could >> check >> > the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? >> > >> > Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, including >> > his >> > attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the >> War >> > Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. >> There >> > are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. >> > >> > I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so >> its a >> > long way to PANB. >> > >> > Beverley >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives >> site >> > > under "Cemeteries" but his >> > > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. >> > > >> > > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 >> > > >> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Beverley, >> > > > >> > > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o >> > > Charles >> > > > William >> > > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North >> Devon, >> > > York >> > > > Co., age >> > > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and >> > that >> > > > he was buried >> > > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 >> > > > >> > > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - >> a >> > > copy >> > > > of the page is >> > > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards >> > > attending >> > > > the various Books of >> > > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different >> than >> > > > what you are showing), then >> > > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this >> page..." >> > > > and they will tell you >> > > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at >> that >> > > time. >> > > > >> > > > Shirley >> > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < >> > [email protected] >> > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my >> > > great >> > > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson >> *Charles >> > > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months >> > after >> > > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and >> *Isobella >> > > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my >> > > >> grandmother >> > > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there >> and I >> > m >> > > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 >> as >> > it >> > > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the >> > > family >> > > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. >> > > >> >> > > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone >> has >> > > >> more >> > > >> personal infomration. >> > > >> -- >> > > >> Beverley Clarkson >> > > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > > >> List Announcements can be found at >> > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > > >> ------------------------------- >> > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > > the >> > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > > List Announcements can be found at >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Beverley Clarkson >> > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Announcements can be found at >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Beverley Clarkson > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

Thanks for his Shirley. I will correct the information on the war memorial as soon as I read the obits; I am very confident I have it right. yes the elderly grandparents raised him yet his perants were alive. Whether too ill, poor or something else is a mystery. TB was common then so perhaps they were incapacitated. The family arrived in Saint John on the Sidonia in 1874 from Scotland ( Thanks to Daniel Johnson) I ve just asked someone to check the Archives for obits but if they cannot; I'll try your suggestions. One time somebody gave me a simple look up as a random act that opened the floodgates to my irish family. I dont want to overuse it; it a fabulous resource. Thanks again beverley On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Beverley, > > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their information > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will > probably > > be able to contact them and correct the error. > > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. > www.automatedgenealogy.com > > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library to > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind > enough to retrieve them for you. > > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' > currently > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy > Vital Records. > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. > > Good luck! > > Shirley > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the > train > > wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d > been > > through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been > > wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could > check > > the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? > > > > Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, including > > his > > attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the > War > > Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. There > > are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. > > > > I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so its > a > > long way to PANB. > > > > Beverley > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives > site > > > under "Cemeteries" but his > > > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. > > > > > > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Beverley, > > > > > > > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o > > > Charles > > > > William > > > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North > Devon, > > > York > > > > Co., age > > > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and > > that > > > > he was buried > > > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 > > > > > > > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - a > > > copy > > > > of the page is > > > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards > > > attending > > > > the various Books of > > > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different > than > > > > what you are showing), then > > > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this > page..." > > > > and they will tell you > > > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at that > > > time. > > > > > > > > Shirley > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < > > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my > > > great > > > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson > *Charles > > > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months > > after > > > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and > *Isobella > > > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > > > >> grandmother > > > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and > I > > m > > > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 > as > > it > > > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the > > > family > > > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. > > > >> > > > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone > has > > > >> more > > > >> personal infomration. > > > >> -- > > > >> Beverley Clarkson > > > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >> List Announcements can be found at > > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > > >> ------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > List Announcements can be found at > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Beverley Clarkson > > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

SInce Charles died within months of enlisting and the Commonwealth War Graves Commission doesn't have him their database, it is very probable that he didn't make it overseas. He may have been ill or training accidents were also common. You might check the Saint John newspapers for the report of his passing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olfert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB > Hi Beverley, > > The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have > been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this > site with no information on parents so I was able send in their > information > as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will > probably > > be able to contact them and correct the error. > > Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. > www.automatedgenealogy.com > > Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library to > where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits > or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind > enough to retrieve them for you. > > As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' > currently > showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy > Vital Records. > http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. > > Good luck! > > Shirley > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the >> train >> wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d >> been >> through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been >> wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could >> check >> the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? >> >> Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, including >> his >> attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the >> War >> Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. There >> are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. >> >> I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so its >> a >> long way to PANB. >> >> Beverley >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives >> > site >> > under "Cemeteries" but his >> > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. >> > >> > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) >> > >> > >> > >> http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > Beverley, >> > > >> > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o >> > Charles >> > > William >> > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North >> > > Devon, >> > York >> > > Co., age >> > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and >> that >> > > he was buried >> > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 >> > > >> > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - a >> > copy >> > > of the page is >> > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards >> > attending >> > > the various Books of >> > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different >> > > than >> > > what you are showing), then >> > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this >> > > page..." >> > > and they will tell you >> > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at that >> > time. >> > > >> > > Shirley >> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < >> [email protected] >> > >wrote: >> > > >> > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my >> > great >> > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson >> > >> *Charles >> > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months >> after >> > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and >> > >> *Isobella >> > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my >> > >> grandmother >> > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and >> > >> I >> m >> > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 >> > >> as >> it >> > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the >> > family >> > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. >> > >> >> > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone >> > >> has >> > >> more >> > >> personal infomration. >> > >> -- >> > >> Beverley Clarkson >> > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >> List Announcements can be found at >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > >> without >> > the >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Announcements can be found at >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Beverley Clarkson >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have no personal knowledge of this tragedy. I checked a couple of history books I have (one on Barker's Point; the other on Devon) but found nothing relevant. I did find this info on the tombstones of these people but you probably already have this: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbyork/cem/douglas.html And of course you can find his attestation papers at: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_u rl=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/well2/227623a.gif&id_nbr=24641 Other than that, I'm afraid I can't help you. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beverley Clarkson Sent: 03 November 2009 14:38 To: [email protected] Subject: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my great great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson *Charles Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months after joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and *Isobella Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my grandmother telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and I m wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 as it seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the family or someone might know where he was taken down. I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone has more personal infomration. -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Announcements can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Beverley, The War Memorial showing his father as Charles William may have been submitted by a family member. My GrUncle is also on this site with no information on parents so I was able send in their information as well as his marriage which was then added to the site. You will probably be able to contact them and correct the error. Charles B. is with his Grandparents on the 1901 & 1911 censuses. www.automatedgenealogy.com Since you have exact dates, I would contact the nearest local library to where they had been living. They may be able to send you the obits or you could try going on the boards to see if someone would be kind enough to retrieve them for you. As well, Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness is a great website. It' currently showing that there is someone who goes to the NB Archives and will copy Vital Records. http://www.raogk.com/newbrunswick.htm He helped me a while back. Good luck! Shirley On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the train > wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d been > through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been > wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could check > the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? > > Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, including > his > attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the War > Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. There > are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. > > I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so its a > long way to PANB. > > Beverley > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives site > > under "Cemeteries" but his > > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. > > > > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) > > > > > > > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Beverley, > > > > > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o > > Charles > > > William > > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North Devon, > > York > > > Co., age > > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and > that > > > he was buried > > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 > > > > > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - a > > copy > > > of the page is > > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards > > attending > > > the various Books of > > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different than > > > what you are showing), then > > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this page..." > > > and they will tell you > > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at that > > time. > > > > > > Shirley > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson < > [email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my > > great > > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson *Charles > > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months > after > > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and *Isobella > > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > > >> grandmother > > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and I > m > > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 as > it > > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the > > family > > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. > > >> > > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone has > > >> more > > >> personal infomration. > > >> -- > > >> Beverley Clarkson > > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >> List Announcements can be found at > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Announcements can be found at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Beverley Clarkson > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Jay, I didnt know about the train wrecks; what an awful homecoming for those poor boys after all they d been through. Has anyone written about them? I did wonder if he had been wounded and finally died at home or en route. Anyone know how I could check the battles of the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the spring of 1918? Shirley, as all the other evidence points to Charles Benjamin, including his attestion card naming his grandmother Sarah as next of kin, I think the War Memorial is in error. He was the son of Judson and isobella Barker. There are a number of sources for this. Thank you for double checking. I will try to get the obits next trip to Fredericton. I live in NS so its a long way to PANB. Beverley On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives site > under "Cemeteries" but his > death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. > > Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) > > > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Beverley, > > > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o > Charles > > William > > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North Devon, > York > > Co., age > > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and that > > he was buried > > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. > > > > > > > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 > > > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - a > copy > > of the page is > > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards > attending > > the various Books of > > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different than > > what you are showing), then > > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this page..." > > and they will tell you > > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at that > time. > > > > Shirley > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my > great > >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson *Charles > >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months after > >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and *Isobella > >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > >> grandmother > >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and I m > >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 as it > >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the > family > >> or someone might know where he was taken down. > >> > >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone has > >> more > >> personal infomration. > >> -- > >> Beverley Clarkson > >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Announcements can be found at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

Beverley, I have a John Spafford Barker in my File. He had four sisters, Mary Anne (b. abt 1830) Sarah, Eliza and Caroline. Their parents were Amos Dow Barker (b. 6 June 1805) and Mary Dow. Amos was the great grandson of Planter Jacob Barker and Margaret Tenny, according to the following sources. 1. Cindy L. Bartlett. 2. "The Barker Family Tree", Anon; at PANB, Fredericton, NB, MN-300, MS-20/17. 3. Elizabeth Sewell and Elizabeth Saunders, "The New Brunswick Census of 1851, York County", Kingsclear, York County. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "CBeverley larkson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my great great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson *Charles Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months after joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and *Isobella Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my grandmother telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and I m wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 as it seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the family or someone might know where he was taken down. I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone has more personal infomration. -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

One other thing... his burial is shown on the New Brunswick Archives site under "Cemeteries" but his death year has been inaccurately transcribed as 1916. Charles B. BARKER (Cpl) http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NBCemeteries/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=26072 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, S. Olfert <[email protected]> wrote: > Beverley, > > The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o Charles > William > BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North Devon, York > Co., age > 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and that > he was buried > in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. > > > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 > > It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - a copy > of the page is > on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards attending > the various Books of > Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different than > what you are showing), then > you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this page..." > and they will tell you > which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at that time. > > Shirley > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my great >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson *Charles >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months after >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and *Isobella >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my >> grandmother >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and I m >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 as it >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the family >> or someone might know where he was taken down. >> >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone has >> more >> personal infomration. >> -- >> Beverley Clarkson >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Beverley, The War Memorial online shows a Charles BARKER d. 13 Mar 1918; s/o Charles William BARKER. Could this be him?? It shows his birth place as North Devon, York Co., age 26 - right age, same place of birth as on his Attestation papers and that he was buried in the Nashwaaksis Douglas Rural Cemetery. http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2755847 It shows that he is on page 363 of the 1st WW Book of Remembrance - a copy of the page is on this site. The actual Book is in Ottawa with military guards attending the various Books of Remembrance. If this is him (although father's name is different than what you are showing), then you can email to the address shown on "to order a copy of this page..." and they will tell you which day of the year page 363 is turned and you can be there at that time. Shirley On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected]>wrote: > I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my great > great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson *Charles > Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months after > joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and *Isobella > Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > grandmother > telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and I m > wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 as it > seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the family > or someone might know where he was taken down. > > I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone has more > personal infomration. > -- > Beverley Clarkson > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A check of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14 gives no place of burial for Charles Benjamin Barker in the First World War, which leads to the conclusion that he must have died and was buried in Canada, rather than in any of the European war cemeteries. There were several troop train wrecks in Canada towards the end of the First World War, mostly from Montreal westward, and he may have been a fatality in one of those accidents. Jay Underwood Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society Elmsdale NS Now available from Railfare-DC Books! "Ghost Tracks" Supernatural stories from Nova Scotia's Railways. Also by Jay Underwood: http://www.railfare.net/FromFollyToFortune.html http://railfare.net/builtforwar.html > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Hall of Fame: > >www.nsrwyhalloffame.com > >Visit the Nova Scotia Railway Heritage Society: > >http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Murray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB > Attestation paper: > Name: BARKER, CHARLES BENJAMIN > Regimental number(s): 3255695 > Reference: RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 430 - 35 > Date of Birth: 14/06/1892 > > For more information on this person, go to; > http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php > > You can order his service record from Collections Canada. His file will > give > his training information and where he was killed. > > Good luck with your research... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:37 PM > Subject: [ NB ] Barker family of Devon, NB > > >>I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my great >> great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson *Charles >> Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months after >> joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and *Isobella >> Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my >> grandmother >> telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and I m >> wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 as it >> seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the >> family >> or someone might know where he was taken down. >> >> I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone has >> more >> personal infomration. >> -- >> Beverley Clarkson >> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Announcements can be found at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Beverley - what about their obits?? They might give more clues especially Isobella's. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Beverley Clarkson <[email protected]>wrote: > I am tracing down the family of *John S Barker* ( 1831-1912) and my great > great aunt,*Sarah Love Barker* (1840-1937) and their grandson *Charles > Benjamin Barker* who was killed in WWI in 1918, less than 2 months after > joining up. His parents were *Judson Barker*( 1861-1925) and *Isobella > Bain*(1867-1918) who died three weeks after her son. i recall my > grandmother > telling me some 50 years ago that there was a tragic story there and I m > wondering if anyone can tell me. I ll be thinking of him on Nov 11 as it > seems noone else is likely to. But perhaps there were others in the family > or someone might know where he was taken down. > > I ve done PANB, Veterans Affairs and Ancestry so am hoping someone has more > personal infomration. > -- > Beverley Clarkson > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Announcements can be found at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcharlo/nblistann.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >