Good Evening Folks, I just want to thank everyone for their participation since January of 1997, on this list. You will still be able to search the "old list messages" at https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/newbrunswick.rootsweb.com You may post future queries/questions over at the "Boards". Here's the link for the  Provincial Board.  There are also Boards for each county. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.canada.newbrunswick Best of luck to all in your future research. Marilyn Maxwell Strout New Brunswick [List Admin Jan 22, 2003- May 2, 2020]

Hi, Perhaps you may have already ordered these but just in case... the very early New Brunswick Land Petitions (up to late 1830s) include genealogy information i.e. age, marital status, relationships, place of origin, etc + other names on the record. They only cost $8 Cdn from the New Brunswick Archives. I found early Land Petitions for John Pond + Abel Pond + William Pond - there may be others who are related: https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/RS108/NameIndexResults.aspx?culture=en-CA&name=POND Shirley On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:09 PM <uther10@charter.net> wrote: > Good evening Bonny, > > My name is Derek Russell, I go by Rick, and I have John Pond and Mary Eva > Cain in my line. > > William b. 1793 d. 1885, m. 06 Sep 1817 Olivia Estey > > Charles William Pond Sr b. 1821 d. 1900, m. 07 Jul 1844 Elizabeth > Anne Bradley > > Charles William Pond Jr b. 17 Jun 1855 d. 19 Jul 1934, m. > 10 Apr 1877 Harriet Lydia Howlen > > Nellie Evelyn Pond b. 11 Apr 1880 d. 14 Feb 1922, > m. 20 Oct 1901 Ezra Plummer Merrill > > Dorothy Pauline Merrill b. 02 Jun 1899 d. > 22 Aug 1976, m. 09 Jun 1917 Bernard Joseph Russell > > Charles Plummer "Chuck" > Russell b. 19 Jul 1927 d. 30 Mar 2019, m. 11 Apr 1948 Eileen Francis "Sue" > Childs > > Derek Charles > "Rick" Russell b. 01 Mar 1949, m. 27 Oct 1979 Marie Josephine Perrino > > I have this on Ancestory.com and on Family Tree Maker. If I can figure out > how to make a GEDCOM file I would be happy to share any of the information > I have. It's easier to reach me at dc-russell@charter.net. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bonny Pond > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 12:08 PM > To: 'New Brunswick Canada Genealogy' <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [NB] John POND, UEL, York County, Nashwaak, 1783 > > I am researching the descendants of John Pond (1762 – 1853) and Mary Eva > Cain (1768 – 1853). > > John Pond, UEL, born ca 1762, enlisted in the West Jersey Volunteers on 28 > April 1778, this unit later being absorbed into the 2nd Battalion New > Jersey Volunteers. He came to New Brunswick (then Nova Scotia) in the > fall of 1783 first receiving a grant of land in King’s County, New > Brunswick (dated 14 July 1784). However, he spent most of his life in > either St Mary’s Parish, York County or Ludlow Parish, Northumberland > County. > > He married Mary Eva Cain, d/o William Cain of the Prince of Wales > American Volunteers. To date I have identified 11 of the 12 children of > John and Eva. They were: > > Elizabeth, b. 1788; m. Stephen Estey > > Abel, b. 1791; m (1) Sarah Estey; (2) Susanna Hovey > > William, b. 1793; m. Olivia Estey > > Eleanor, b. 1795; m. John Brown > > John, b. 1797; m. Naomi Estey > > Catherine, b. 1798; m. George Ellis > > Hiram, b. 1802 > > Hannah, b. 1802; m. Nicholes White > > Mary Eva, b. 1805; m. Moses Hovey > > Lambert, b. 1809; m. Patience Young > > James, b. 1810; m. Nancy Beatham > > (Not all of the above dates of birth have been confirmed.) > > Continuing on the work of my father, Douglas D. Pond, my objective is to > trace the descendants of John and Mary Eva Pond down through 5 > generations. I am a descendant through the second son, William, so: > > John Pond & Mary Eva Cain > →William Pond & Olivia Estey > →Hazen Isaac Pond & Nancy Peterson > →Sanford Joseph Pond & Julia Margaret Ganong > →Horace Sanford Pond & Stella Grace Gilbert > →Douglas Daaman Pond & Olga Alfreda Watts > →me!! > > I can be contacted at: bpond@nbnet.nb.ca > > Bonny Pond > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Good evening Bonny, My name is Derek Russell, I go by Rick, and I have John Pond and Mary Eva Cain in my line. William b. 1793 d. 1885, m. 06 Sep 1817 Olivia Estey Charles William Pond Sr b. 1821 d. 1900, m. 07 Jul 1844 Elizabeth Anne Bradley Charles William Pond Jr b. 17 Jun 1855 d. 19 Jul 1934, m. 10 Apr 1877 Harriet Lydia Howlen Nellie Evelyn Pond b. 11 Apr 1880 d. 14 Feb 1922, m. 20 Oct 1901 Ezra Plummer Merrill Dorothy Pauline Merrill b. 02 Jun 1899 d. 22 Aug 1976, m. 09 Jun 1917 Bernard Joseph Russell Charles Plummer "Chuck" Russell b. 19 Jul 1927 d. 30 Mar 2019, m. 11 Apr 1948 Eileen Francis "Sue" Childs Derek Charles "Rick" Russell b. 01 Mar 1949, m. 27 Oct 1979 Marie Josephine Perrino I have this on Ancestory.com and on Family Tree Maker. If I can figure out how to make a GEDCOM file I would be happy to share any of the information I have. It's easier to reach me at dc-russell@charter.net. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Bonny Pond Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 12:08 PM To: 'New Brunswick Canada Genealogy' <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NB] John POND, UEL, York County, Nashwaak, 1783 I am researching the descendants of John Pond (1762 – 1853) and Mary Eva Cain (1768 – 1853). John Pond, UEL, born ca 1762, enlisted in the West Jersey Volunteers on 28 April 1778, this unit later being absorbed into the 2nd Battalion New Jersey Volunteers. He came to New Brunswick (then Nova Scotia) in the fall of 1783 first receiving a grant of land in King’s County, New Brunswick (dated 14 July 1784). However, he spent most of his life in either St Mary’s Parish, York County or Ludlow Parish, Northumberland County. He married Mary Eva Cain, d/o William Cain of the Prince of Wales American Volunteers. To date I have identified 11 of the 12 children of John and Eva. They were: Elizabeth, b. 1788; m. Stephen Estey Abel, b. 1791; m (1) Sarah Estey; (2) Susanna Hovey William, b. 1793; m. Olivia Estey Eleanor, b. 1795; m. John Brown John, b. 1797; m. Naomi Estey Catherine, b. 1798; m. George Ellis Hiram, b. 1802 Hannah, b. 1802; m. Nicholes White Mary Eva, b. 1805; m. Moses Hovey Lambert, b. 1809; m. Patience Young James, b. 1810; m. Nancy Beatham (Not all of the above dates of birth have been confirmed.) Continuing on the work of my father, Douglas D. Pond, my objective is to trace the descendants of John and Mary Eva Pond down through 5 generations. I am a descendant through the second son, William, so: John Pond & Mary Eva Cain →William Pond & Olivia Estey →Hazen Isaac Pond & Nancy Peterson →Sanford Joseph Pond & Julia Margaret Ganong →Horace Sanford Pond & Stella Grace Gilbert →Douglas Daaman Pond & Olga Alfreda Watts →me!! I can be contacted at: bpond@nbnet.nb.ca Bonny Pond _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Charles Gallant, a native of PEI, married Annie Barbara Grant on December 4, 1883 in Bayfield, Botsford Parish. According to the 1891 census he was 33 so his date of birth is about 1858/9. They had 5 children: Joseph, b. 1884; m. (1) Marie Louise Bourque (2) Dorothy Gregson Margaret Alice, b. 1887; m. (1) Stephen Jeffries (2) James Campbell Charles Frederick, b. 1889; m. (1) Marie Arsenault (2) Mary Rose Allain James Clarence, b. 1891 Rena Loretta, b. 1893; m. (1) Purley Mooring (2) John Halliday (3) __ Stordy It is possible he is the Charles Gallant who died in Saint John, N.B. on August 7, 1912. If so, the record shows he was born on PEI and that his father’s name was Simon Gallant. There is a Simon Gallant from Rustico, PEI whose second wife was Domithilde Gallant. They had a son born on December 8, 1859 in Rustico, PEI. His name was Joseph. The family moved to the Shediac area of New Brunswick and Joseph is found, aged 22, in the 1881 census. The Gallant family was Catholic; Charles and Annie were married in the Methodist Church. My working hypothesis is that Joseph and Charles are one and the same person, and that Joseph (for whom no record can be found subsequent to the 1881 census) changed his name (or perhaps used a middle name) when he moved into an English/Protestant milieu. Annie and Charles apparently separated; she re-married. Her second husband was Norman MacRae and she had another 7 children. Charles Gallant is the great grandfather of my husband: Charles → Joseph → Guillaume → Auguste. Any information – especially from descendants of Simon and Domithilde Gallant – would be greatly appreciated. I can be contacted at bpond@nbnet.nb.ca Bonny Pond

John Francis Watts married Eliza Ann Whelpley, d/o Henry Whelpley and Elizabeth Alward on October 24, 1840 in Kingston, Kings County, NB. They had 4 children: Phoebe Eliza Ann, b. 1846; m. Samuel Orr Henry Whelpley, b. 1846; m. (1) Clarilda Clark (2) Mary Pollock (3) Matilda Jennie Smith John Francis Jr, b. 1850; m. Elizabeth Flagor James, b. ca 1851; m. ? There is little information on John Watts. One family story says that he and his brothers were “Yankee sailors” from New Bedford, Massachusetts; they came up before Confederation but all (except John) went back to Massachusetts after Confederation because there was no longer “free trade” along the eastern seaboard; “anyone who could afford to went back to the States”; apparently John’s brothers “became butchers or meat-cutters in Boston”. John Watts would be my gg grandfather on my mother’s side: John → Henry → Arthur → Olga → me!! Any help would be very much appreciated. I can be contacted at: bpond@nbnet.nb.ca Bonny Pond

I am researching the descendants of John Pond (1762 – 1853) and Mary Eva Cain (1768 – 1853). John Pond, UEL, born ca 1762, enlisted in the West Jersey Volunteers on 28 April 1778, this unit later being absorbed into the 2nd Battalion New Jersey Volunteers. He came to New Brunswick (then Nova Scotia) in the fall of 1783 first receiving a grant of land in King’s County, New Brunswick (dated 14 July 1784). However, he spent most of his life in either St Mary’s Parish, York County or Ludlow Parish, Northumberland County. He married Mary Eva Cain, d/o William Cain of the Prince of Wales American Volunteers. To date I have identified 11 of the 12 children of John and Eva. They were: Elizabeth, b. 1788; m. Stephen Estey Abel, b. 1791; m (1) Sarah Estey; (2) Susanna Hovey William, b. 1793; m. Olivia Estey Eleanor, b. 1795; m. John Brown John, b. 1797; m. Naomi Estey Catherine, b. 1798; m. George Ellis Hiram, b. 1802 Hannah, b. 1802; m. Nicholes White Mary Eva, b. 1805; m. Moses Hovey Lambert, b. 1809; m. Patience Young James, b. 1810; m. Nancy Beatham (Not all of the above dates of birth have been confirmed.) Continuing on the work of my father, Douglas D. Pond, my objective is to trace the descendants of John and Mary Eva Pond down through 5 generations. I am a descendant through the second son, William, so: John Pond & Mary Eva Cain →William Pond & Olivia Estey →Hazen Isaac Pond & Nancy Peterson →Sanford Joseph Pond & Julia Margaret Ganong →Horace Sanford Pond & Stella Grace Gilbert →Douglas Daaman Pond & Olga Alfreda Watts →me!! I can be contacted at: bpond@nbnet.nb.ca Bonny Pond

your Steeves book are they from Hillsborough N.B. At 02:25 PM 2020-01-12, you wrote: >I have the Steeves Descendants book. On pg 749, >Samuel is shown b. 1847? d. m. Catherine L. >Drew. children are Anna m. G. Hargreaves and Hattie m. Frank Lorenzen. > >Then Council follows: >Council S. WOODWORTH, b. 6.5.60 d. 23.3.35. >23.12.83, m. Annie Sinclair (Lavinia, Hugh, >Henry, John) [another Steeves Descendant line] m. (2) Louise Drew. > >Do you suppose that Elizabeth/Catherine could >have had two middle names and she switched between them? > >On the 1921 census she is shown as Louise C. It >also shows that she came to Canada in 1861. >That’s earlier than I thought. Katy is in the US census in 1860 in Boston. > >Another oddity. On Hattie’s birth >certificate, (a late registration) in NB, it >reflects that Katherine had 5 children total and >4 living. Maybe that was the status in 1927 when this was filed. > > > On Jan 11, 2020, at 2:45 PM, S. Olfert <. solfert@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > So Charles wasn't recorded with the girls on the divorce papers?? mmm... > > let's look at the > > the docs to try and clear up the Catharine Louisa - Kate - C Elizabeth - > > Elizabeth - Louisa > > & the 2 Woodworth brothers mystery. > > > > *Council Steeves Woodworth* > > > > 1. Ask if someone on this List has the Steeves Genealogy by Esther Clarke > > Wright. It might have > > this family line since Council's middle name was Steeves and his > > grandmother was Rhoda Steeves (m. > > John Beatty Woodworth). There is quite a mixup with children's names - > > some attributed to 1st > > marriage, some to 2nd and some missing. > > > > 2. 1st Wife, Anne M Sinclair, died in 1884. (gravestone - findagrave) > > > > 2nd Wife, Catharine "Kate" Louisa Drew - brother Samuel's Wife. > > > > > > * 1931 NBruns Death Record: * > > > https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141C5.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=8d249757-987a-4a7d-804c-a318a17bae48 > > > > * Kate Woodworth (wife of Council S Woodworth - Parents: Frank Drew & > > Elizabeth Adams* > > > > *Samuel Hartt? Woodworth* > > > > 1. 1872 MA Marriage: > > Samuel H Woodworth - his birthplace recorded as Falmouth, Maine? > > Fireman. Parents: Joseph & Ann > > * Elizabeth Drew - birthplace Boston. Parents: Francis & Caroline < > > on other records, mother recorded* > > * as Caroline Eliza. Caroline's marriage recorded her name as Caroline > > E. Adams - which matches* > > * Parents' names on both the 1931 Death for Kate Woodworth & this 1872 > > Marriage for Elizabeth Drew.* > > > > Also, Catharine Louisa Drew's birth was 4 Oct 1851 and Kate (Drew) > > Woodworth's birth date on Death > > Record was 4 Oct 1853 - very close. > > > > 2. 1874 MA Birth: > > Anna Mabel Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H, Fireman, New Brunswick & C. > > Elizabeth, Boston > > > > 1892 MA Marriage: to Louis T Hargraves > > Anna M Woodworth - Parents: Samuel & Louisa > > > > 1910 MA Marriage: to William B Hargreaves > > Anna M Woodworth mn Woodworth 2ndDiv - Parents: Samuel Woodworth & > > Louisa Drew > > > > 3. 1878 New Brunswick Birth: > > Hattie Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H Woodworth, Engineer & Katherine > > L. Drew - * signed Mrs Katherine L. > > Woodworth on 1927 doc. Also recorded on County Birth Register as > > Cathrine Drew. > > > > 1914 Vancouver BC Marriage Record: to Johannes Peter Lorenzen > > Hattie Mary Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H Woodworth, Engineer & > > Kate Drew > > > > 1937 Vancouver BC Marriage Record: to Frank Joseph Niedecker > > Hattie Mary Lorenzen - Parents: Samuel Woodworth & Kattie Drew (b. > > Rhode Island) > > > > > > There is also this 1881 Massachusetts birth record for a daughter with > > Parents > > "Samuel H Woodworth & Kate". No other record found for the child so far. > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/27M3-LF9 > > Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915 > > Name: Woodworth > > Event Type: Birth > > Event Date: 11 Jun 1881 > > Event Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States > > Event Place (Original): Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States > > Gender: Female > > Father's Name: Samuel H Woodworth > > <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4BM-SY7> > > Mother's Name: Kate <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4BM-SYW> > > > > > > > > could be errors on my part as I type the info. as you say... still lots of > > questions. > > > > Charles Edgar... ? ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:10 AM Kathleen Moran <acorn@wi.rr.com> wrote: > >> > >> Thank you for helping me with this!! I did go down that path. The reason > >> I abandoned it was that, in the divorce papers filed in Boston, the > >> children are listed as Annie and Hattie. > Charles wasn’t listed. I don’t > >> believe that Charles would have been left > off unless he was the son of only > >> one of them or of someone else. Another > odd thing in the documentation is > >> the identity of Catherine. Samuel married and divorced Elizabeth Drew in > >> Boston. Catherine Louisa Drew ends up in the family and ends up married to > >> Samuel’s brother, Council. Elizabeth > disappears. Samuel ends up in 1880 > >> living in Ohio and isn’t found after that. Lots of loose ends. Any > >> advice or thoughts are appreciated! > >> > >>>> On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:12 AM, S. Olfert <solfert@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Charles Edgar Woodworth: Is it possible that he was the s/o Samuel H > >>> Woodworth & Katherine L Drew?? > >>> > >>> The 1881 New Brunswick household for Joseph & Ann Woodworth show 3 > >> children > >>> whose ages are a sudden drop from > >>> the other children: Anne 7, Hattie 3, Charles 4 > >>> > >>> The New Brunswick Late Birth Registrations dated 1927 show Hattie > >> Woodworth > >>> as having been the dau/o Samuel H. Woodworth > >>> and Katherine L Drew. > >>> > >>> > >> > https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/Results.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=446db9ab-e6ea-4ccb-8cda-f821660cac4a > >>> > >>> > >>> In looking at Samuel H Woodworth (s/o Joseph & Ann), there is also an > >> 1874 > >>> Massachusetts birth for a child attributed > >>> to him: > >>> > >>> Anna Mabel Woodworth b. 1874 Boston > >>> Parents: Samuel H and C Elizabeth > >>> > >>> She matches the child Anne age 7 (c1874) on the 1881 New Brunswick > >> Census. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kathy Moran <kamoran@wi.rr.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I am still hoping against hope to find evidence of the parentage of > >>>> Charles Edgar WOODWORTH b. 16 September 1877 in Albert Mines/Demoiselle > >>>> Creek, Albert County. Charles reports his parents to be Joseph WOODWORTH > >>>> and Ann CLARK. Ann was born around 1821 in Ireland. That would make her > >> 56 > >>>> when Charles was born. I’ve investigated the other children of Joseph > >> and > >>>> Ann to see if one of them could have been Charles’ parent, but records > >>>> don’t exist. They were of Baptist faith and no church records seem to > >> have > >>>> survived. I’ve been to NB and was not able to find any breakthroughs. > >>>> Joseph died in 1889 without a will. Thank you. > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>>> Unsubscribe > >>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >>>> community > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: > https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by > Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: >https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and >Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb >Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded >and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am researching the descendants of George SABEAN b ca 1855 Dalhousie, Annapolis Co.,Nova Scotia s/o Ambrose SABEAN & Johanna TAYLOR and Delilah (Lilah) SABEAN b ca 1863 Port Lorne, Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, d/o William SABEAN & Anne. Children of George & Delilah/Lilah: 1. Lemuel Hueston SABEAN (Capt) b 25 June 1880, Bridgetown, NS; d 11 Oct 1954 Cambridge, Massachusetts; alternate birth date of 25 June 1881 which shows on his Application for Seamans Protection certificate 21 Dec 1918. I also have a letter from Transport Canada dated Oct 26 1983 showing they have a record of a Master’s Certificate issued to Lemuel in Saint John NB in 1904 with a birth date of 25 June 1880 Annapolis County. On 27 Dec 1906 Lemuel married Lena May SLOAN(e) in Windsor, NS d/o John SLOAN(e) and Agnes JACKSON and his residence was shown as Saint John, NB Children of Lemuel & Lena May: a) Agnes b ca Mar 1909 Saint John NB; d 6 Mar 1909 Saint Jon NB; Bur Cedar Hill cemetery b) Ira Owen Alexander b 20 Jul 1910 Windsor, NS; d 24 May 1984 Windsor, NS; married Marion Marguerite Moriarty 20 Jan 1933, Truro, NS (my parents) c) Viola Gladys b 4 Jun 1913; d 23 Apr 2010 Windsor, NS; married George Everett Woodman 19 Apr 1935 Hantsport, NS d) Charles William b 30 May 191 Maitland, Hants Co., NS; d 6 Dec 1990 Amherst, NS; married Evelyn Jean Morton 8 Mar 1941 Windsor, NS; they resided in the Campbellton , NB area in the 1960 where Evelyn d in 1968. no other information on them in the Campbellton area. Information on Charles time in that area would be appreciated. Charles married 2nd Thelma – maiden name unknown – and possibly operated a greenhouse in the Campbellton area. e) Harry Beverly b 23 Nov 1922 Windsor, NS; d 9 Sept 2000 Pugwash, NS; married Alice Jean Pickel 29 Oct 1947 Saint John, NB. At that time Harry was ass’t manager of Stedman Stores in St. Stephen, NB indicated on marriage certificate. Information on his time in the St. Stephen area would be appreciated. 2. Alexander George SABEAN (Capt.) b 11 Dec 1881 Port Lorne, NS resided Saint John NB early 1900`s sailing on ships for various companies in the Saint John are ... no other info on him in that area 3. Minnie Maud SABEAN b 28 Feb 1886, Bridgetown, NS; d 26 Jan 1927 Eastport, Maine; married Charles Melvin Holland 29 Nov 1908 Eastport, Maine. Believe Charles born in the Saint John NB area ca 1879 4. Son or daughter - no information on this person ... any information appreciated ... Thanks Patricia Doherty pmd@ns.sympatico.ca

I have the Steeves Descendants book. On pg 749, Samuel is shown b. 1847? d. m. Catherine L. Drew. children are Anna m. G. Hargreaves and Hattie m. Frank Lorenzen. Then Council follows: Council S. WOODWORTH, b. 6.5.60 d. 23.3.35. 23.12.83, m. Annie Sinclair (Lavinia, Hugh, Henry, John) [another Steeves Descendant line] m. (2) Louise Drew. Do you suppose that Elizabeth/Catherine could have had two middle names and she switched between them? On the 1921 census she is shown as Louise C. It also shows that she came to Canada in 1861. That’s earlier than I thought. Katy is in the US census in 1860 in Boston. Another oddity. On Hattie’s birth certificate, (a late registration) in NB, it reflects that Katherine had 5 children total and 4 living. Maybe that was the status in 1927 when this was filed. > On Jan 11, 2020, at 2:45 PM, S. Olfert <. solfert@gmail.com> wrote: > > So Charles wasn't recorded with the girls on the divorce papers?? mmm... > let's look at the > the docs to try and clear up the Catharine Louisa - Kate - C Elizabeth - > Elizabeth - Louisa > & the 2 Woodworth brothers mystery. > > *Council Steeves Woodworth* > > 1. Ask if someone on this List has the Steeves Genealogy by Esther Clarke > Wright. It might have > this family line since Council's middle name was Steeves and his > grandmother was Rhoda Steeves (m. > John Beatty Woodworth). There is quite a mixup with children's names - > some attributed to 1st > marriage, some to 2nd and some missing. > > 2. 1st Wife, Anne M Sinclair, died in 1884. (gravestone - findagrave) > > 2nd Wife, Catharine "Kate" Louisa Drew - brother Samuel's Wife. > > > * 1931 NBruns Death Record: * > https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141C5.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=8d249757-987a-4a7d-804c-a318a17bae48 > > * Kate Woodworth (wife of Council S Woodworth - Parents: Frank Drew & > Elizabeth Adams* > > *Samuel Hartt? Woodworth* > > 1. 1872 MA Marriage: > Samuel H Woodworth - his birthplace recorded as Falmouth, Maine? > Fireman. Parents: Joseph & Ann > * Elizabeth Drew - birthplace Boston. Parents: Francis & Caroline < > on other records, mother recorded* > * as Caroline Eliza. Caroline's marriage recorded her name as Caroline > E. Adams - which matches* > * Parents' names on both the 1931 Death for Kate Woodworth & this 1872 > Marriage for Elizabeth Drew.* > > Also, Catharine Louisa Drew's birth was 4 Oct 1851 and Kate (Drew) > Woodworth's birth date on Death > Record was 4 Oct 1853 - very close. > > 2. 1874 MA Birth: > Anna Mabel Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H, Fireman, New Brunswick & C. > Elizabeth, Boston > > 1892 MA Marriage: to Louis T Hargraves > Anna M Woodworth - Parents: Samuel & Louisa > > 1910 MA Marriage: to William B Hargreaves > Anna M Woodworth mn Woodworth 2ndDiv - Parents: Samuel Woodworth & > Louisa Drew > > 3. 1878 New Brunswick Birth: > Hattie Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H Woodworth, Engineer & Katherine > L. Drew - * signed Mrs Katherine L. > Woodworth on 1927 doc. Also recorded on County Birth Register as > Cathrine Drew. > > 1914 Vancouver BC Marriage Record: to Johannes Peter Lorenzen > Hattie Mary Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H Woodworth, Engineer & > Kate Drew > > 1937 Vancouver BC Marriage Record: to Frank Joseph Niedecker > Hattie Mary Lorenzen - Parents: Samuel Woodworth & Kattie Drew (b. > Rhode Island) > > > There is also this 1881 Massachusetts birth record for a daughter with > Parents > "Samuel H Woodworth & Kate". No other record found for the child so far. > > https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/27M3-LF9 > Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915 > Name: Woodworth > Event Type: Birth > Event Date: 11 Jun 1881 > Event Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States > Event Place (Original): Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States > Gender: Female > Father's Name: Samuel H Woodworth > <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4BM-SY7> > Mother's Name: Kate <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4BM-SYW> > > > > could be errors on my part as I type the info. as you say... still lots of > questions. > > Charles Edgar... ? ? > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:10 AM Kathleen Moran <acorn@wi.rr.com> wrote: >> >> Thank you for helping me with this!! I did go down that path. The reason >> I abandoned it was that, in the divorce papers filed in Boston, the >> children are listed as Annie and Hattie. Charles wasn’t listed. I don’t >> believe that Charles would have been left off unless he was the son of only >> one of them or of someone else. Another odd thing in the documentation is >> the identity of Catherine. Samuel married and divorced Elizabeth Drew in >> Boston. Catherine Louisa Drew ends up in the family and ends up married to >> Samuel’s brother, Council. Elizabeth disappears. Samuel ends up in 1880 >> living in Ohio and isn’t found after that. Lots of loose ends. Any >> advice or thoughts are appreciated! >> >>>> On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:12 AM, S. Olfert <solfert@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Charles Edgar Woodworth: Is it possible that he was the s/o Samuel H >>> Woodworth & Katherine L Drew?? >>> >>> The 1881 New Brunswick household for Joseph & Ann Woodworth show 3 >> children >>> whose ages are a sudden drop from >>> the other children: Anne 7, Hattie 3, Charles 4 >>> >>> The New Brunswick Late Birth Registrations dated 1927 show Hattie >> Woodworth >>> as having been the dau/o Samuel H. Woodworth >>> and Katherine L Drew. >>> >>> >> https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/Results.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=446db9ab-e6ea-4ccb-8cda-f821660cac4a >>> >>> >>> In looking at Samuel H Woodworth (s/o Joseph & Ann), there is also an >> 1874 >>> Massachusetts birth for a child attributed >>> to him: >>> >>> Anna Mabel Woodworth b. 1874 Boston >>> Parents: Samuel H and C Elizabeth >>> >>> She matches the child Anne age 7 (c1874) on the 1881 New Brunswick >> Census. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kathy Moran <kamoran@wi.rr.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am still hoping against hope to find evidence of the parentage of >>>> Charles Edgar WOODWORTH b. 16 September 1877 in Albert Mines/Demoiselle >>>> Creek, Albert County. Charles reports his parents to be Joseph WOODWORTH >>>> and Ann CLARK. Ann was born around 1821 in Ireland. That would make her >> 56 >>>> when Charles was born. I’ve investigated the other children of Joseph >> and >>>> Ann to see if one of them could have been Charles’ parent, but records >>>> don’t exist. They were of Baptist faith and no church records seem to >> have >>>> survived. I’ve been to NB and was not able to find any breakthroughs. >>>> Joseph died in 1889 without a will. 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Surname: GOLDER County in New Brunswick: Queens Town were they started : Kingston Date when they arrived in New Brunswick: 1784 on Loyalist ship HMS Eagle from New Jersey susandbh@gmail.com > On 8 Jan 2020, at 7:50 AM, List Admin M.Strout <charlottecountynb@gmx.com> wrote: > > I'm asking all current list members to create a post that reflects your > current research. It should include the following information. > Please include the first 4 bullets below in your SUBJECT Line > > * SURNAME (all in UPPERCASE letters) > * County in New Brunswick > * Town where they started. > * Date when they arrived in New Brunswick > * Brief history of the family and your research. > > > Then do this for Other surnames you are researching. > > Please, DO NOT lump more than 1 surname per post please. > > > Make sure you sign with an email address that you WILL NOT BE > CHANGING.ie. yahoo, aol, gmail, hotmail, etc. It is recommended that > you NOT USE an email address provided by your ISP (shaw.ca; rogers.com; > sympatico.ca, verizon.net etc.,) as that might change down the road, > whereas a yahoo or gmail, aol or hotmail address WILL NOT change. > > I will post my Roll Call in the next message so that you can see a > sample of what yours should look like. > > Good luck to all researchers. > Marilyn Strout, List Admin > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Surname: CHARLTON County in New Brunswick: Queens Town where they started: Welsford Date when they arrived in New Brunswick : prior to 1820 > On 8 Jan 2020, at 7:50 AM, List Admin M.Strout <charlottecountynb@gmx.com> wrote: > > I'm asking all current list members to create a post that reflects your > current research. It should include the following information. > Please include the first 4 bullets below in your SUBJECT Line > > * SURNAME (all in UPPERCASE letters) > * County in New Brunswick > * Town where they started. > * Date when they arrived in New Brunswick > * Brief history of the family and your research. > > > Then do this for Other surnames you are researching. > > Please, DO NOT lump more than 1 surname per post please. > > > Make sure you sign with an email address that you WILL NOT BE > CHANGING.ie. yahoo, aol, gmail, hotmail, etc. It is recommended that > you NOT USE an email address provided by your ISP (shaw.ca; rogers.com; > sympatico.ca, verizon.net etc.,) as that might change down the road, > whereas a yahoo or gmail, aol or hotmail address WILL NOT change. > > I will post my Roll Call in the next message so that you can see a > sample of what yours should look like. > > Good luck to all researchers. > Marilyn Strout, List Admin > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My forwarding address is berylgm@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 9, 2020, 10:39 AM Carol Norman <cgnorm@earthlink.net> wrote: > > If the NBList is now or very soon will be defunct, where do we send our > Roll Call info? Or will there be one last posting on the List before Mar. > 2020 with roll call info that will serve as everyone's forwarding address > for the future? > > cgnorm@earthlink.net > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: "List Admin M.Strout" <charlottecountynb@gmx.com> > >Sent: Jan 7, 2020 12:50 PM > >To: New Brunswick <NEWBRUNSWICK@rootsweb.com>, > can-nb-charlotte@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [NB]ROLL CALL 2020 > > > >I'm asking all current list members to create a post that reflects your > >current research. It should include the following information. > >Please include the first 4 bullets below in your SUBJECT Line > > > > * SURNAME (all in UPPERCASE letters) > > * County in New Brunswick > > * Town where they started. > > * Date when they arrived in New Brunswick > > * Brief history of the family and your research. > > > > > >Then do this for Other surnames you are researching. > > > >Please, DO NOT lump more than 1 surname per post please. > > > > > >Make sure you sign with an email address that you WILL NOT BE > >CHANGING.ie. yahoo, aol, gmail, hotmail, etc. It is recommended that > >you NOT USE an email address provided by your ISP (shaw.ca; rogers.com; > >sympatico.ca, verizon.net etc.,) as that might change down the road, > >whereas a yahoo or gmail, aol or hotmail address WILL NOT change. > > > >I will post my Roll Call in the next message so that you can see a > >sample of what yours should look like. > > > >Good luck to all researchers. > >Marilyn Strout, List Admin > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

a new interesting record found for the Woodworth child born 1881 Boston - same date, place - makes me wonder who was Beatrice AND was the one with given name a late birth registration?? This is the one I had send previously: Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915 Name: Woodworth Event Type: Birth Event Date: 11 Jun 1881 Event Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States Event Place (Original): Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States Gender: Female Father's Name: Samuel H Woodworth <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4BM-SY7> Mother's Name: Kate <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4BM-SYW> and the one that suddenly appeared - might be same child. Massachusetts Births, 1841-1915 Name: Beatrice L. Woodworth Event Type: Birth Event Date: 11 Jun 1881 Event Place: Boston, Massachusetts Gender: F Father's Name: Counsel Woodworth <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FX81-6YW> Mother's Name: Catharine L. <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FX81-6Y4> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:10 AM Kathleen Moran <acorn@wi.rr.com> wrote: > Thank you for helping me with this!! I did go down that path. The reason > I abandoned it was that, in the divorce papers filed in Boston, the > children are listed as Annie and Hattie. Charles wasn’t listed. I don’t > believe that Charles would have been left off unless he was the son of only > one of them or of someone else. Another odd thing in the documentation is > the identity of Catherine. Samuel married and divorced Elizabeth Drew in > Boston. Catherine Louisa Drew ends up in the family and ends up married to > Samuel’s brother, Council. Elizabeth disappears. Samuel ends up in 1880 > living in Ohio and isn’t found after that. Lots of loose ends. Any > advice or thoughts are appreciated! > > > On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:12 AM, S. Olfert <solfert@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Charles Edgar Woodworth: Is it possible that he was the s/o Samuel H > > Woodworth & Katherine L Drew?? > > > > The 1881 New Brunswick household for Joseph & Ann Woodworth show 3 > children > > whose ages are a sudden drop from > > the other children: Anne 7, Hattie 3, Charles 4 > > > > The New Brunswick Late Birth Registrations dated 1927 show Hattie > Woodworth > > as having been the dau/o Samuel H. Woodworth > > and Katherine L Drew. > > > > > https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/Results.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=446db9ab-e6ea-4ccb-8cda-f821660cac4a > > > > > > In looking at Samuel H Woodworth (s/o Joseph & Ann), there is also an > 1874 > > Massachusetts birth for a child attributed > > to him: > > > > Anna Mabel Woodworth b. 1874 Boston > > Parents: Samuel H and C Elizabeth > > > > She matches the child Anne age 7 (c1874) on the 1881 New Brunswick > Census. > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kathy Moran <kamoran@wi.rr.com> wrote: > >> > >> I am still hoping against hope to find evidence of the parentage of > >> Charles Edgar WOODWORTH b. 16 September 1877 in Albert Mines/Demoiselle > >> Creek, Albert County. Charles reports his parents to be Joseph WOODWORTH > >> and Ann CLARK. Ann was born around 1821 in Ireland. That would make her > 56 > >> when Charles was born. I’ve investigated the other children of Joseph > and > >> Ann to see if one of them could have been Charles’ parent, but records > >> don’t exist. They were of Baptist faith and no church records seem to > have > >> survived. I’ve been to NB and was not able to find any breakthroughs. > >> Joseph died in 1889 without a will. Thank you. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

So Charles wasn't recorded with the girls on the divorce papers?? mmm... let's look at the the docs to try and clear up the Catharine Louisa - Kate - C Elizabeth - Elizabeth - Louisa & the 2 Woodworth brothers mystery. *Council Steeves Woodworth* 1. Ask if someone on this List has the Steeves Genealogy by Esther Clarke Wright. It might have this family line since Council's middle name was Steeves and his grandmother was Rhoda Steeves (m. John Beatty Woodworth). There is quite a mixup with children's names - some attributed to 1st marriage, some to 2nd and some missing. 2. 1st Wife, Anne M Sinclair, died in 1884. (gravestone - findagrave) 2nd Wife, Catharine "Kate" Louisa Drew - brother Samuel's Wife. * 1931 NBruns Death Record: * https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141C5.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=8d249757-987a-4a7d-804c-a318a17bae48 * Kate Woodworth (wife of Council S Woodworth - Parents: Frank Drew & Elizabeth Adams* *Samuel Hartt? Woodworth* 1. 1872 MA Marriage: Samuel H Woodworth - his birthplace recorded as Falmouth, Maine? Fireman. Parents: Joseph & Ann * Elizabeth Drew - birthplace Boston. Parents: Francis & Caroline < on other records, mother recorded* * as Caroline Eliza. Caroline's marriage recorded her name as Caroline E. Adams - which matches* * Parents' names on both the 1931 Death for Kate Woodworth & this 1872 Marriage for Elizabeth Drew.* Also, Catharine Louisa Drew's birth was 4 Oct 1851 and Kate (Drew) Woodworth's birth date on Death Record was 4 Oct 1853 - very close. 2. 1874 MA Birth: Anna Mabel Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H, Fireman, New Brunswick & C. Elizabeth, Boston 1892 MA Marriage: to Louis T Hargraves Anna M Woodworth - Parents: Samuel & Louisa 1910 MA Marriage: to William B Hargreaves Anna M Woodworth mn Woodworth 2ndDiv - Parents: Samuel Woodworth & Louisa Drew 3. 1878 New Brunswick Birth: Hattie Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H Woodworth, Engineer & Katherine L. Drew - * signed Mrs Katherine L. Woodworth on 1927 doc. Also recorded on County Birth Register as Cathrine Drew. 1914 Vancouver BC Marriage Record: to Johannes Peter Lorenzen Hattie Mary Woodworth - Parents: Samuel H Woodworth, Engineer & Kate Drew 1937 Vancouver BC Marriage Record: to Frank Joseph Niedecker Hattie Mary Lorenzen - Parents: Samuel Woodworth & Kattie Drew (b. Rhode Island) There is also this 1881 Massachusetts birth record for a daughter with Parents "Samuel H Woodworth & Kate". No other record found for the child so far. https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/27M3-LF9 Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915 Name: Woodworth Event Type: Birth Event Date: 11 Jun 1881 Event Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States Event Place (Original): Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States Gender: Female Father's Name: Samuel H Woodworth <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4BM-SY7> Mother's Name: Kate <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4BM-SYW> could be errors on my part as I type the info. as you say... still lots of questions. Charles Edgar... ? ? On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:10 AM Kathleen Moran <acorn@wi.rr.com> wrote: > Thank you for helping me with this!! I did go down that path. The reason > I abandoned it was that, in the divorce papers filed in Boston, the > children are listed as Annie and Hattie. Charles wasn’t listed. I don’t > believe that Charles would have been left off unless he was the son of only > one of them or of someone else. Another odd thing in the documentation is > the identity of Catherine. Samuel married and divorced Elizabeth Drew in > Boston. Catherine Louisa Drew ends up in the family and ends up married to > Samuel’s brother, Council. Elizabeth disappears. Samuel ends up in 1880 > living in Ohio and isn’t found after that. Lots of loose ends. Any > advice or thoughts are appreciated! > > > On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:12 AM, S. Olfert <solfert@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Charles Edgar Woodworth: Is it possible that he was the s/o Samuel H > > Woodworth & Katherine L Drew?? > > > > The 1881 New Brunswick household for Joseph & Ann Woodworth show 3 > children > > whose ages are a sudden drop from > > the other children: Anne 7, Hattie 3, Charles 4 > > > > The New Brunswick Late Birth Registrations dated 1927 show Hattie > Woodworth > > as having been the dau/o Samuel H. Woodworth > > and Katherine L Drew. > > > > > https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/Results.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=446db9ab-e6ea-4ccb-8cda-f821660cac4a > > > > > > In looking at Samuel H Woodworth (s/o Joseph & Ann), there is also an > 1874 > > Massachusetts birth for a child attributed > > to him: > > > > Anna Mabel Woodworth b. 1874 Boston > > Parents: Samuel H and C Elizabeth > > > > She matches the child Anne age 7 (c1874) on the 1881 New Brunswick > Census. > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kathy Moran <kamoran@wi.rr.com> wrote: > >> > >> I am still hoping against hope to find evidence of the parentage of > >> Charles Edgar WOODWORTH b. 16 September 1877 in Albert Mines/Demoiselle > >> Creek, Albert County. Charles reports his parents to be Joseph WOODWORTH > >> and Ann CLARK. Ann was born around 1821 in Ireland. That would make her > 56 > >> when Charles was born. I’ve investigated the other children of Joseph > and > >> Ann to see if one of them could have been Charles’ parent, but records > >> don’t exist. They were of Baptist faith and no church records seem to > have > >> survived. I’ve been to NB and was not able to find any breakthroughs. > >> Joseph died in 1889 without a will. 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Surname - DONNELLY County in New Brunswick - Northumberland & YORK Town where they started- Doaktown/Blackville Date when they arrived in New Brunswick - born in New Brunswick. His grandfather Alexander DONNELLY immigrated to New Brunswick. Brief History of the family and your research - I am looking for my Great Grandfather’s birth, marriage , & death certificates. Also his grave location. His name was Elroy “Elby” DONNELLY. He is a complete mystery to our entire family. His parents were James DONNELLY 1825- D. abt. 1900 & Ruth Earl (TURNER) 1846-1929. Ruth & James we’re married May of 1872. They had a farm in Blackville that was his father’s Alexander DONNELLY whom immigrated to New Brunswick around the early 1910’s or so. Alexander gave his 2 younger son’s ; James and John DONNELLY the farm in Blackville. Elby’s wife Sarah Jane (PRICE) nicknames were “Jennie or Jane” died very young at 39 years old at the Victoria Public Hospital in Fredericton on October 5, 1911 from brain tumor. Sarah was born abt. August 1872 per the census record. Her parents were Ruth Ann (DOAK)1849-1922 & Coak Dewes PRICE 1843-1926. Ruth & Coak we’re married August of 1870. I’ve been to Sarah’s grave in New Maryland, New Brunswick. Sarah is buried with her young sister Christy & her mother Ruth Ann is too. I figure Coak must have been buried there too. No headstone for him anywhere. Sarah & Elby had at least 7 biological children together. Sarah had another older child living with her when she was 1st married or living with Elby. Nobody knows. When Sarah passed away, her last child she gave birth to , was only 6 months old. Nobody knows what his legal 1st name is; Elby, Elroy or Eldridge? Sarah has many siblings. Those PRICE(S) are buried in the New cemetery in New Maryland, N.B. I’ve been there. What I’d love to see is the chart, map of both cemeteries to see if Elby & Coak are buried there. The church wasn’t helpful & hung up on me. The documents I have received on this part of our family is from PANB in Fredericton, NB. What a great resource for us genealogists. Also New Brunswick, Canada census records. They aren’t always accurate but gets you in the right direction. Elby moved their young family to Woodstock ,(Carleton County) New Brunswick for working in the bush. They had several of their children in Woodstock, NB. My Grandfather included- Allen Elroy DONNELLY 1903-1999. I’d also LOVE to see photos of Elby & Sarah and any of there children. I have a photo of Clara. She was one of the older children. Thank you so much. I’ve written on here in the Mid 2000’s about this exact topic before, looking for information and answers. Where did Elby go after Sarah Died? Heard he got baptized & remarried??? What was he doing? Where did he live after Sarah died? Did he actually pay for there room/board.? Clara took care of all the young kids. She was a teenager, maybe 15, 16 years old. She cleaned cabins for there food , bare necessities and room/board. The Infant baby Helen must have gone to be cared for by Ruth & Coak Or to a sibling of Sarah’s. Thank You very Much. Happy New Years. Warmest regards and Blessings, Colleen DONNELLY Dodong57@aol.com Sent from my iPad

Hi Heather. I have reached out to them and they said nothing exists. Maybe I should try again. Thanks for the suggestion! > On Jan 11, 2020, at 8:05 AM, Heather Leighton Waddingham via NEWBRUNSWICK <newbrunswick@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi... I can't help u you with your query. BUT have you contacted Acadia University in Nova Scotia?? Several years ago they sent me the history, documents, etc that was from the actual record book of the Baptist church on Campobello. > Good luck, > Heather > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you for helping me with this!! I did go down that path. The reason I abandoned it was that, in the divorce papers filed in Boston, the children are listed as Annie and Hattie. Charles wasn’t listed. I don’t believe that Charles would have been left off unless he was the son of only one of them or of someone else. Another odd thing in the documentation is the identity of Catherine. Samuel married and divorced Elizabeth Drew in Boston. Catherine Louisa Drew ends up in the family and ends up married to Samuel’s brother, Council. Elizabeth disappears. Samuel ends up in 1880 living in Ohio and isn’t found after that. Lots of loose ends. Any advice or thoughts are appreciated! > On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:12 AM, S. Olfert <solfert@gmail.com> wrote: > > Charles Edgar Woodworth: Is it possible that he was the s/o Samuel H > Woodworth & Katherine L Drew?? > > The 1881 New Brunswick household for Joseph & Ann Woodworth show 3 children > whose ages are a sudden drop from > the other children: Anne 7, Hattie 3, Charles 4 > > The New Brunswick Late Birth Registrations dated 1927 show Hattie Woodworth > as having been the dau/o Samuel H. Woodworth > and Katherine L Drew. > > https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/Results.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=446db9ab-e6ea-4ccb-8cda-f821660cac4a > > > In looking at Samuel H Woodworth (s/o Joseph & Ann), there is also an 1874 > Massachusetts birth for a child attributed > to him: > > Anna Mabel Woodworth b. 1874 Boston > Parents: Samuel H and C Elizabeth > > She matches the child Anne age 7 (c1874) on the 1881 New Brunswick Census. > > > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kathy Moran <kamoran@wi.rr.com> wrote: >> >> I am still hoping against hope to find evidence of the parentage of >> Charles Edgar WOODWORTH b. 16 September 1877 in Albert Mines/Demoiselle >> Creek, Albert County. Charles reports his parents to be Joseph WOODWORTH >> and Ann CLARK. Ann was born around 1821 in Ireland. That would make her 56 >> when Charles was born. I’ve investigated the other children of Joseph and >> Ann to see if one of them could have been Charles’ parent, but records >> don’t exist. They were of Baptist faith and no church records seem to have >> survived. I’ve been to NB and was not able to find any breakthroughs. >> Joseph died in 1889 without a will. Thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

forgot to add Samuel's marriage. So possibly something happened either to Samuel or to his Wife and the children were raised by the paternal grandparents, Joseph & Ann (Clark) Woodworth. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N48M-4WL Samuel H. WoodworthMassachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915 Name: Samuel H. Woodworth Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 Feb 1872 Event Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States Gender: Male Age: 23 Birth Year (Estimated): 1849 Father's Name: Joseph <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N48M-4WG> Mother's Name: Ann <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N48M-4WP> Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Drew <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N48M-4W5> Spouse's Gender: Female Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1852 Spouse's Father's Name: Frances <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N48M-4WR> Spouse's Mother's Name: Caroline <https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N48M-4WT> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kathy Moran <kamoran@wi.rr.com> wrote: > I am still hoping against hope to find evidence of the parentage of > Charles Edgar WOODWORTH b. 16 September 1877 in Albert Mines/Demoiselle > Creek, Albert County. Charles reports his parents to be Joseph WOODWORTH > and Ann CLARK. Ann was born around 1821 in Ireland. That would make her 56 > when Charles was born. I’ve investigated the other children of Joseph and > Ann to see if one of them could have been Charles’ parent, but records > don’t exist. They were of Baptist faith and no church records seem to have > survived. I’ve been to NB and was not able to find any breakthroughs. > Joseph died in 1889 without a will. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Charles Edgar Woodworth: Is it possible that he was the s/o Samuel H Woodworth & Katherine L Drew?? The 1881 New Brunswick household for Joseph & Ann Woodworth show 3 children whose ages are a sudden drop from the other children: Anne 7, Hattie 3, Charles 4 The New Brunswick Late Birth Registrations dated 1927 show Hattie Woodworth as having been the dau/o Samuel H. Woodworth and Katherine L Drew. https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/Results.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=446db9ab-e6ea-4ccb-8cda-f821660cac4a In looking at Samuel H Woodworth (s/o Joseph & Ann), there is also an 1874 Massachusetts birth for a child attributed to him: Anna Mabel Woodworth b. 1874 Boston Parents: Samuel H and C Elizabeth She matches the child Anne age 7 (c1874) on the 1881 New Brunswick Census. On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kathy Moran <kamoran@wi.rr.com> wrote: > I am still hoping against hope to find evidence of the parentage of > Charles Edgar WOODWORTH b. 16 September 1877 in Albert Mines/Demoiselle > Creek, Albert County. Charles reports his parents to be Joseph WOODWORTH > and Ann CLARK. Ann was born around 1821 in Ireland. That would make her 56 > when Charles was born. I’ve investigated the other children of Joseph and > Ann to see if one of them could have been Charles’ parent, but records > don’t exist. They were of Baptist faith and no church records seem to have > survived. I’ve been to NB and was not able to find any breakthroughs. > Joseph died in 1889 without a will. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/newbrunswick@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >