You are doing well Jenelle. I only found "after years of searching" my Mums brother 2 years ago next month. I was visiting his son only a fortnight ago in OZ! The reason we couldn't find UNCLE was he changed his name layout, the spelling of his surname and when joining the army gave a false year of birth. I will take anything you have found or maybe you can send me links. He had left NZ about 1939 and had last been seen/heard from in 1950 with no address just a note saying in Adelaide so Grandma's will was for the 2 girls only. I will write off here and give you my private email. Glenda -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 24 July 2018 19:01 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 180 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. WILLIAM ARTHUR FRANKLYN (FRANKLIN) B 1905, DUNEDIN SON OF ARTHUR COMBS FRANKLYN/ANNIE LIZA SAYNOR (Jenelle McCarrick) 2. Re Gisborne Herald Death Notices (Levonne Watson) 3. Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad (mytrees2013) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 08:49:09 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]WILLIAM ARTHUR FRANKLYN (FRANKLIN) B 1905, DUNEDIN SON OF ARTHUR COMBS FRANKLYN/ANNIE LIZA SAYNOR To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601d422d7$5e98eb20$1bcac160$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda, let me know what details you want on the above, I have his marriage certificate to Joan Mayes, 1942, his baptism certificate, his court appearances from the NZ Police Gazette and photo, his war record from WW2 (that's digitized in the national Archives of Australia), maybe another warrant for him in the South Australia Gazettes for maintenance of a child. His motherAnnie Liza Franklyn (nee Saynor) has a will, digitized through the familysearch site, where she names her 2 daughters Jessie Beatrice Franklyn (married a BOOTH) and Dorothy Bell Franklyn (married a KYLE), no mention of the son. Seems William and Joan divorced State Archives of New South Wales site sometime between 8/3/1949-2/8/1951. Jenelle. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:40:42 +1200 (NZST) From: Levonne Watson <levonne.watson@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [nz]Re Gisborne Herald Death Notices To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <243095071.2130380.1532396442827@webmail.xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am wanting copies of the following Death Notices which were published in the Gisborne Herald Sydney Thomas GRAY died 16 June 1947 Audrey Louise HOLDSWORTH died 17 March 1985 Doris Audrey Lucy WILSON died 24 Feb 1992 Is there willing person who lives in the Gisborne area willing to do look ups and copying of these death notices - I'm willing to reimburse for any expenses. Please contact me off list Levonne Watson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 19:00:48 +1200 From: "mytrees2013" <mytrees2013@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000e01d4231c$0f6f35f0$2e4da1d0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Janelle. I was using my memory in most cases when writing this out and put my Mums brothers name as my Grandfather in error. I have done every shipping list on this earth I think...In Australia and in New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 23 July 2018 8:00 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 178 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Shing (Judy Berntsen) 2. Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD (Jenelle McCarrick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 22:30:59 +1200 From: Judy Berntsen <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Shing To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAL4b0vTZ=jyoCrOcmZwx_HXeMQ3tu2kihJFQW9M2_6YQonN=2Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Shirley Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send me the details of the people you want information on, preferably dates or approximate time frame. What you want to know is also needed, and their Christian names, otherwise I can't do anything. Please give this your urgent attention. Regards Judy Berntsen On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <barugh@farmside.co.nz> wrote: > I should have mentioned they were around New Plymouth. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:59:47 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d421f6$8b5916d0$a20b4470$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda on the BDM New Zealand it shows the name Arthur Coombs Franklyn marrying Annie Liza SAYNOR 1903/1023, have you checked the passenger lists through the familysearch site? Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:56 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD Thank you for any help with this. NOTE: I have verified all information below it is the questions at the bottom I need help with. Annie WALE born Cir 1864 presume UK At age 19 she gave birth to Ann Eliza WALE on 26 Mar 1884 in Sydney. This child (my G/Ma) was registered in Sydney aged 3 months and it stated Mother Annie WALE, currently in New Zealand Ann Eliza, also known as Annie Eliza - Annie Liza - Ann Eliza. She took her Foster Parents name SAYNOR. She was "found" in shipping records going from Dunedin, New Zealand to Melbourne, Australia on the Westralia on 21 July 1902. On the 18 March 1903 a "Consent to marriage" was given (in Dunedin) when her and Grandad wanted to marry, he had been in the district 3 months and it stated permission given by her mother that piece of paper is missing in the court records. On her marriage to my Grandfather (who lived around the road from where she had lived with her "parents" in Melbourne) it said she had been in the District (Dunedin) 13 months. SO the questions are: When did Grandfather (Arthur Combes FRANKLYN) leave and Australia to New Zealand. Other than finding Grandma leaving Dunedin to Melbourne in 1902 I have never found her outward journey and her return to NZ journey Never found her mother Annie WALE in New Zealand, in Australia or leaving either country to go elsewhere. Never found a marriage for her. 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No worries Glenda, there are clues to his whereabouts in his war record, that's digitised through our archives, its quite long. I'll email your information today. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 6:09 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Re: FRANKLYN You are doing well Jenelle. I only found "after years of searching" my Mums brother 2 years ago next month. I was visiting his son only a fortnight ago in OZ! The reason we couldn't find UNCLE was he changed his name layout, the spelling of his surname and when joining the army gave a false year of birth. I will take anything you have found or maybe you can send me links. He had left NZ about 1939 and had last been seen/heard from in 1950 with no address just a note saying in Adelaide so Grandma's will was for the 2 girls only. I will write off here and give you my private email. Glenda -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 24 July 2018 19:01 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 180 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. WILLIAM ARTHUR FRANKLYN (FRANKLIN) B 1905, DUNEDIN SON OF ARTHUR COMBS FRANKLYN/ANNIE LIZA SAYNOR (Jenelle McCarrick) 2. Re Gisborne Herald Death Notices (Levonne Watson) 3. Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad (mytrees2013) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 08:49:09 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]WILLIAM ARTHUR FRANKLYN (FRANKLIN) B 1905, DUNEDIN SON OF ARTHUR COMBS FRANKLYN/ANNIE LIZA SAYNOR To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601d422d7$5e98eb20$1bcac160$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda, let me know what details you want on the above, I have his marriage certificate to Joan Mayes, 1942, his baptism certificate, his court appearances from the NZ Police Gazette and photo, his war record from WW2 (that's digitized in the national Archives of Australia), maybe another warrant for him in the South Australia Gazettes for maintenance of a child. His motherAnnie Liza Franklyn (nee Saynor) has a will, digitized through the familysearch site, where she names her 2 daughters Jessie Beatrice Franklyn (married a BOOTH) and Dorothy Bell Franklyn (married a KYLE), no mention of the son. Seems William and Joan divorced State Archives of New South Wales site sometime between 8/3/1949-2/8/1951. Jenelle. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:40:42 +1200 (NZST) From: Levonne Watson <levonne.watson@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [nz]Re Gisborne Herald Death Notices To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <243095071.2130380.1532396442827@webmail.xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am wanting copies of the following Death Notices which were published in the Gisborne Herald Sydney Thomas GRAY died 16 June 1947 Audrey Louise HOLDSWORTH died 17 March 1985 Doris Audrey Lucy WILSON died 24 Feb 1992 Is there willing person who lives in the Gisborne area willing to do look ups and copying of these death notices - I'm willing to reimburse for any expenses. Please contact me off list Levonne Watson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 19:00:48 +1200 From: "mytrees2013" <mytrees2013@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000e01d4231c$0f6f35f0$2e4da1d0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Janelle. I was using my memory in most cases when writing this out and put my Mums brothers name as my Grandfather in error. I have done every shipping list on this earth I think...In Australia and in New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 23 July 2018 8:00 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 178 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Shing (Judy Berntsen) 2. Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD (Jenelle McCarrick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 22:30:59 +1200 From: Judy Berntsen <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Shing To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAL4b0vTZ=jyoCrOcmZwx_HXeMQ3tu2kihJFQW9M2_6YQonN=2Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Shirley Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send me the details of the people you want information on, preferably dates or approximate time frame. What you want to know is also needed, and their Christian names, otherwise I can't do anything. Please give this your urgent attention. Regards Judy Berntsen On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <barugh@farmside.co.nz> wrote: > I should have mentioned they were around New Plymouth. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:59:47 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d421f6$8b5916d0$a20b4470$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda on the BDM New Zealand it shows the name Arthur Coombs Franklyn marrying Annie Liza SAYNOR 1903/1023, have you checked the passenger lists through the familysearch site? Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:56 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD Thank you for any help with this. NOTE: I have verified all information below it is the questions at the bottom I need help with. Annie WALE born Cir 1864 presume UK At age 19 she gave birth to Ann Eliza WALE on 26 Mar 1884 in Sydney. This child (my G/Ma) was registered in Sydney aged 3 months and it stated Mother Annie WALE, currently in New Zealand Ann Eliza, also known as Annie Eliza - Annie Liza - Ann Eliza. She took her Foster Parents name SAYNOR. She was "found" in shipping records going from Dunedin, New Zealand to Melbourne, Australia on the Westralia on 21 July 1902. On the 18 March 1903 a "Consent to marriage" was given (in Dunedin) when her and Grandad wanted to marry, he had been in the district 3 months and it stated permission given by her mother that piece of paper is missing in the court records. On her marriage to my Grandfather (who lived around the road from where she had lived with her "parents" in Melbourne) it said she had been in the District (Dunedin) 13 months. SO the questions are: When did Grandfather (Arthur Combes FRANKLYN) leave and Australia to New Zealand. Other than finding Grandma leaving Dunedin to Melbourne in 1902 I have never found her outward journey and her return to NZ journey Never found her mother Annie WALE in New Zealand, in Australia or leaving either country to go elsewhere. Never found a marriage for her. 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