I might add here, to John Wilsons excellent summary, beware also of "tampering" by NZ BDM I have an original birth cert, and it appears online with him firmly attached to his adopted parents, not his birth parents. At one stage the same death was shown for the same man, who was using an alias, one 1870s one 1890s. After ordering both, and being told they referred to the same death, and the later one supplied. The earlier one (and correct year) has disapeared. Anyone finding his death in Papers Past will not find it online BDM for the correct year. Just be flexible when searching is my advice. cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wilson" <[email protected]> To: "new-zealand" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 3:53 PM Subject: [nz] RG online - Birth entries > Hi All, from John Wilson > > Re late registration birth entries, they appear online in the > Registrar-General’s historic births website for the actual date, with the > only clue to a late registration (or an adoption reregistration) being the > year prefix. So the Taranaki author and journalist John Guthrie (he wrote > The Little Country, The Seekers and Paradise Bay) appears under his real > name of John Brodie as born on 9 July 1905 but with the registration > number 1925/3385. NB: the birth (to Walter Brodie and wife) was noted in > the New Zealand Herald of 29 July. Similarly an event (BDM) in late > December may be registered in January so will appear online with a > registration number (prefix) of the year after the event occurred. > > The RG historic website can be used to find the actual date, by gradually > restricting the search range: for a birth in 1908 search 1/1/1908 to > 1/7/1908, then if it is search 1/1/1908 to 1/3/1908 then 1/2/1908 to > 19/2/1908 then 1/2/1908 to 9/2/1908 then to (say) 3/2/1908 which is the > recorded date! But for RG numbers, the actual year may be the year before > or years later than the prefix number. > > Originally pre-1875 historic events on the website did not have the actual > date online just the year, but the date information has been gradually > added. This also applied to New Zealand World Wars I & II wardeaths, which > were previously listed as 1918 or 1945; see FAQs on website. Previously a > date search would find all the events (BDM) in that year. From 1972 the > death registration asked for the birth date, which was shown on the online > entry instead of the age at death (useful!). > > Note that the RG historic website shows deaths from those born 80 years > ago or more immediately (when registered, so a few days delay?) and all > deaths from 50 years ago or more. So the website will show on 8 January > 2017 all deaths to 8 January 1967 (+50y ago). But a 1-year old born 1968 > who died in 1969 will not have his death online until 2018 (+50y). > > Similarly you can search the website for births up to 50 years ago but the > search will only find stillbirths for between 50 and 100 years ago. But > for marriages you cannot put in a search date of under 80 years ago. Re > adoptions, if the child was reregistered in the adoptive parents name > after the the year of birth, an entry with the new name was inserted into > the earlier index for the birth year. These handwritten additions can be > seen on the microfiches of the RG indexes in libraries. I suppose though > that this would not apply when the child was reregistered in the same year > before the annual index was prepared, and some may be ordinary late > registrations (some late entries refer to the section of the act that > applies). > > https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/ > > Yours, John Wilson > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message