Afternoon. Does anyone know if there was an epidemic or flu or something sweeping Auckland in mid-late September 1854 that would kill several children from the same family, with a week or so of each other? Thanks,  Beth

On 19/02/2017 1:51 PM, Beth Wagstaff wrote: > Afternoon. > Does anyone know if there was an epidemic or flu or something sweeping Auckland in mid-late September 1854 that would kill several children from the same family, with a week or so of each other? > Thanks, Beth > > The short time-frame suggests Scarlet Fever or Diphtheria which are both highly contagious with high mortality; TB takes a lot longer. My wife's ancestors left London in the 1850s to escape the rampant TB then present; One of the daughters had to be carried aboard the ship and was able to walk off it in Adelaide, and survived for several years. Brian Fleming Melbourne

Scarlet Fever? I seem to recall there is a mass grave beside "All Saints" church in Howick for about 15 children. Many related and some of Minister Lush's own children. Murray Reid Tuakau -----Original Message----- From: NEW-ZEALAND [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth Wagstaff Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2017 3:51 PM To: New-zealand <[email protected]> Subject: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? Afternoon. Does anyone know if there was an epidemic or flu or something sweeping Auckland in mid-late September 1854 that would kill several children from the same family, with a week or so of each other? Thanks, Beth The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There were so many things that killed children, diphtheria, measles, small pox, and others, may be get a death cert it might say what they died of it was so common back then it was even news sad but a fact ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Reid" <[email protected]> To: "'Beth Wagstaff'" <[email protected]>; "'New-zealand'" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2017 15:54 Subject: Re: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? > Scarlet Fever? > I seem to recall there is a mass grave beside "All Saints" church in > Howick for about 15 children. Many related and some of Minister Lush's own > children. > Murray Reid > Tuakau > > -----Original Message----- > From: NEW-ZEALAND > [mailto:[email protected]rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Beth Wagstaff > Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2017 3:51 PM > To: New-zealand <[email protected]> > Subject: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? > > Afternoon. > Does anyone know if there was an epidemic or flu or something sweeping > Auckland in mid-late September 1854 that would kill several children from > the same family, with a week or so of each other? > Thanks, Beth > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13975 - Release Date: 02/19/17 > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13975 - Release Date: 02/19/17

Possibly TB that struck down poor families, and contagious. cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Reid" <[email protected]> To: "'Beth Wagstaff'" <[email protected]>; "'New-zealand'" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? > Scarlet Fever? > I seem to recall there is a mass grave beside "All Saints" church in > Howick for about 15 children. Many related and some of Minister Lush's own > children. > Murray Reid > Tuakau > > -----Original Message----- > From: NEW-ZEALAND > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Beth Wagstaff > Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2017 3:51 PM > To: New-zealand <[email protected]> > Subject: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? > > Afternoon. > Does anyone know if there was an epidemic or flu or something sweeping > Auckland in mid-late September 1854 that would kill several children from > the same family, with a week or so of each other? > Thanks, Beth > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Papers Past 1854 do a have a huge ammount of deaths of infants, one death mentions Whooping cough DIED. At Onehunga Lodge, on March 13th, of hooping cough, Louisa Maria, the infant daughter ofG. O. Ormsby, Esq., aged 31 months if you are meaning the children of Rev Lush, their deaths will be no doubt mentioned in the book published from his diaries?? cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Wagstaff" <[email protected]> To: "New-zealand" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 3:51 PM Subject: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? > Afternoon. > Does anyone know if there was an epidemic or flu or something sweeping > Auckland in mid-late September 1854 that would kill several children from > the same family, with a week or so of each other? > Thanks, Beth > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Typhoid fever was also endemic in Auckland at the time. Short time between onset and death. Highly contagious. Take your pick really :0. Sent from my iPad > On 19/02/2017, at 20:42, Penne <[email protected]> wrote: > > Papers Past 1854 do a have a huge ammount of deaths of infants, one death mentions Whooping cough > DIED. > > At Onehunga Lodge, on March 13th, of hooping cough, Louisa Maria, the infant daughter ofG. O. Ormsby, Esq., aged 31 months > > if you are meaning the children of Rev Lush, their deaths will be no doubt mentioned in the book published from his diaries?? cheers penne > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Wagstaff" <[email protected]> > To: "New-zealand" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 3:51 PM > Subject: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? > > >> Afternoon. >> Does anyone know if there was an epidemic or flu or something sweeping Auckland in mid-late September 1854 that would kill several children from the same family, with a week or so of each other? >> Thanks, Beth >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/

I meant to include this link in my last posting. https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=vcsr&GSvcid=515180 These are only from the Catholic church cemetery. I might add that many of the Fencible residents moved to Auckland for work, returning to Howick for Church on Sunday, as it was part of their "Fencible" entitlement condition. My point is that Howick was not as isolated as one might have thought and across city contagion very possible. Murray Reid -----Original Message----- From: NEW-ZEALAND [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Penne Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2017 8:42 PM To: Beth Wagstaff <[email protected]>; New-zealand <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? Papers Past 1854 do a have a huge ammount of deaths of infants, one death mentions Whooping cough DIED. At Onehunga Lodge, on March 13th, of hooping cough, Louisa Maria, the infant daughter ofG. O. Ormsby, Esq., aged 31 months if you are meaning the children of Rev Lush, their deaths will be no doubt mentioned in the book published from his diaries?? cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Wagstaff" <[email protected]> To: "New-zealand" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 3:51 PM Subject: [nz] 1854 Auckland - what was killing people? > Afternoon. > Does anyone know if there was an epidemic or flu or something sweeping > Auckland in mid-late September 1854 that would kill several children from > the same family, with a week or so of each other? > Thanks, Beth > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message