Hi List members, I have been in touch with Mike Gribble, Jan Gribbble's husband. In 'Sammy Gribble's Patch' © 2013, Mike says the list Jan mentioned were the people who were originally proposed as passengers to sail on the HAZARD to Auckland Dec1844, but that voyage didn't eventuate. However the voyage of the Victoria did go ahead carrying several of the people mentioned on Jan's original list. So the list I gave first were the people on the Victoria. The Victoria picked up these passengers from New Plymouth on 2nd Jan 1845 and delivered them to Auckland on Tuesday 14th January 1845. Mike quoted from Captain Robert Richard's log for the voyage. Interestingly the ship anchored at Kororareka on Friday 10th Jan to find "John Heke" had that morning cut the flagstaff down for the second time. They left Kororareka at 11pm that night and they eventually arrived in Auckland offloading the passengers and baggage at 10.00am on 14th Jan The second list I gave was the list of people Jan Gribble had mentioned that were keen to go to Auckland but were not included in the passenger list that went on the Victoria. We know most of my second list moved to Auckland around end of 1844 beginning of 1845, but nothing has come to light on how! Did they really walk as suggested by Wicksteed? Sorry to hear your daughter had been unwell Beth. I'll send on the documents relating to the Victoria separate to this list email Cheers Bobbie -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 4/3/17, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: [nz] Government brig VICTORIA 1844 To: "Brian & Bobbie Amyes" <[email protected]>, "New-zealand" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, 4, March, 2017, 1:55 PM Thanks for all the information guys. I have been off list for a while as my daughter has been quite ill. Apologies for not acknowledging your efforts sooner. Most appreciated. My rellies were the ROGERS who were Cornish miners so it has answered my question as to how they got to be in Auckland. Beth -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [nz] Government brig VICTORIA 1844 From: Brian & Bobbie Amyes To: New-zealand ,Beth Wagstaff ,Brian & Bobbie Amyes CC: Following on from the list people Wicksteed named coming up to Auckland in Government Brig VICTORIA, Jan Gribble in 1987 named some other people who are thought to have taken up the Government option of shifting from New Plymouth to Auckland Dec1844-Jan 1845 HMS Hazard: New Plymouth to Auckland December 1844 By: Gribble, J M, INNZNA [New Zealand Genealogist, Nov/Dec 1987; v.18 n.180:p.285;] Listed the miners and families who supposedly took advantage of free passage offered by Governor Fitzroy. Jan Gribble requested information about where settlers went after arriving in Auckland. [copy also kept at National Library as well as NZSG Library] From her list, removing the names coming on the Victoria, the extra people mentioned were Richard GONINAN, cabinetmaker ex Blenheim John ROGERS, miner, ex Blenheim Thomas ROGERS, miner, ex Blenheim William Argyle [ARGLE] jnr, miner, ex Blenheim William Argyle [ARGLE] snr, miner, ex Blenheim William JOHNSON & wife, butcher, ex Amelia Thompson William Thompson SHUTE, wife & 3 chn, labourer, ex Oriental Samuel & Mary DAVY/DAVEY, wife & 2chn, miner, ex Essex Henry ROGERS, miner, ex Essex Plus a male named HUNTLY The ROGERS and ARGALL/ARGLE family were connected through marriage. William ARGLE mentioned here was married to Mary ARGLE, formerly Mary ROGERS, mother of John & Thomas mentioned above. She travelled up on the Victoria with the younger ROGERS & ARGLE children. William ARGLE jnr, was from his father’s first marriage. Thomas and John ROGERS & wives left Kawau May 1846 for Sydney. The William ARGLE who accompanied them was probably the son. Jan’s list also tends to confirm that John ROGERS was married prior to a later marriage to Jane ROBERTSON in 1849. Also coming up from New Plymouth would have been William GOLLOP and Henry HURFIT. They married the [Blenheim] ROGERS sisters Fanny and Eliza in March 1845 in Auckland. Later that month Eliza, and Fanny's brother Henry ROGERS drowned. He was 14 younger, than Henry ROGERS of the Essex. I am not sure if I have covered the families Beth was interested in. I haven't heard back from her. Cheers Bobbie --------------------------------------------