And also forgot to say that the first few pages of hits are for the deeds books which can't be viewed online. If you are doing 50 hits per page, then the registers you can view online start halfway down page 5 of the hits. peter -----Original Message----- From: Peter Dillon Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:40 AM To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] taranaki land records I forgot to give the reference for the Canterbury indexes. To see the online Canterbury indexes go to Archway http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ click ‘Advanced Search’ click ‘Find Records’ (the ‘go’ button) scroll down to the ‘Accession’ box and enter CH1032 The reference number to each volume in Accession 1032 at Archway I am confident refer to the number on the spine of each pysical volume according to a renumbering of volumes made by LINZ a few years ago. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Peter Dillon Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:38 AM To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] taranaki land records Actually, lots of the old deeds registers and indexes at LINZ offices around NZ have been transferred to or will be transferred to Archives NZ offices. As far as I know, that's the plan for all of them eventually. I don't know about progress with the ones for Taranaki. For example we used to access the old Canterbury land indexes and registers at the former Lands & Survey office in Worcester Street Christchurch, then later, after the deeds and mapping sections of L & S were separated (these days they are LINZ and Terralink), they were housed in a dedicated old deeds room at the LINZ office on the third floor of Torrens House in Cashel Street. Westland land records were held in Hokitika, Nelson land records in Nelson, and Marlborough land records in Blenheim. Then a few years ago the Westland, Nelson and Marlborough registers were brought to Christchurch and housed beside the Canterbury registers in the old deeds room at Torrens House. Now all those registers have been transferred to Archives NZ in Peterborough Street, Christchurch. The good news is that the Canterbury land indexes have been scanned by Archives NZ and put online at Archway. The bad news is that deeds themselves haven't been scanned, you have to view those at the Archives NZ office in Peterborough Street. It's a clunky process to go through the old deeds indexes online. It is actually much easier to do it in person with the actual registers. Provided you can get your head around the old deeds system that is. It will take a newbie a day just to start getting used to them. And the registers are usually VERY BIG and VERY HEAVY volumes. For the uninitiated: There are various ways of getting at the desired land in the Canterbury indexes. 1. Land registers - If you have a description of the section (eg from the NZ Freeholders' Index) then you can look in the several land register volumes. the "A" register is Christchurch (within the four main avenues), The "C" registers are for rural sections outside Chch, and other registers are for other parts of canterbury (eg Timaru, Waimate, etc) which have their own letters. There are further subdivision registers, eg C/S 1, C/S 2, C/S 3, and so forth. The relevant page will show all the transactions concerning that section over the years. For example if you are looking for section C3578 then you look in the C registers for number 3578 - funnily enough they are in numerical order :)) 2. Nominal registers - several volumes - checking these for a person's name will give you numbers from the primary index to check. Doesn't necessarily have both parties to a transaction though, so you might not be able to find someone or the whole of their properties for that reason. The entries can refer to more than just land - could be mortgages for example 3. Primary index - several volumes - transactions were recorded in these as they were brought in for registration, and assigned a unique number - can check the primary index volumes page by page looking down both of parties columns looking for your party. A tedious process but a thorough one. Or if you have found relevant numbers via the nominal indexes than of course you can go straight to that number in the primary index. Funnily enough they are in numerical order. All sorts of transactions were recorded - deeds, leases, mortgages, conveyances, whatever. Be aware that a deed may be registered well after it was made, sometime years afterward. 4. Wills index - if land transactions involved a will then these deeds were indexed in wills registers. 5. BDM index registers - sometimes details of deaths and marriages etc were part of the deed because they were important evidence for the transaction. Unlike the official NZ BDMs they don't cost. What you will end up with is various informations about a transaction, eg a description of the land involved (which you can use to find the section in the land registers) and references to further indexes or deeds. eg 22D154 or 22/154 will mean look at folio (page) number 154 in deeds register number 22 for the transaction. An actual deed in a register will probably have an annotation as to where to find the next deed in the series. The deeds themselves are what you want to get at mostly, but the land indexes and primary index provide a bigger picture and lead you to other deeds concerning the section in question. Each deed has a plan of the section in it. There are often valuable genealogical hints about parties in deeds which makes them worth finding for that reason alone. Peter -----Original Message----- From: bill girling Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 10:19 AM To: dennischandler ; NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] taranaki land records Those old land records have for many years been at LINZ in Hamilton.I may stand corrected, I have heard that they are no longer available to the public. If so, you will need to have staff search for you. No doubt they will charge. NZSG may be able to help you with t hat aswell. Happy hunting Bill The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message