Hi All: Google is free (with the help of advertising) and it is reliable and trusted! Also the newspaper websites for the NZ Herald and Stuff (Dom etc) Yours, John Wilson Subject: Re: [nz] Family Trees > Reminds me of a saying a dear friend once told me - > > 'there's no such thing as a free lunch!' > > In other words 'with every hand-out there's a price to be paid!' >