Good evening Jenny & listers Although at times there may be the exception to the rule, ALL naturalisation records are held at the Wellington office of Archives NZ. Regardless of where the person was naturalised the record is almost invariably held in Wellington. The Citizenship Research Guide has more details: http://archives.govt.nz/citizenship Generally speaking, only post WW2 naturalisations have been indexed on Archway and most of these more recent records now have access restricted until 100 years after the person's DOB. Earlier naturalisations are indexed on the Kiwi Index (published by NZSG) and on Ancestry but not on Archway. All naturalisation records themselves are held by Archives NZ. I've seen lots of naturalisations - but the earliest ones I've seen date from the 1870s - I've not looked at one as early as 1869. Generally speaking, the pre-WW1 naturalisations contain very, very little info - although sometimes you strike small nuggets of info - for example, my grandfather came to NZ as a babe in arms in the 1870s and was naturalised with his father but for some strange reason he was naturalised again for a second time in his late 20s. At least this second naturalisation gave me the bonus of the name of the person my grandfather was working for at the time and where he was based. By comparison, post WW1 naturalisations usually contain a goldmine of info (generally including things like date of arrival in NZ, name of ship, family members, addresses in NZ, jobs, character references, sometimes a photo, ....). If you want a post WW1 naturalisation (often 30-40 pages) its probably cost effective to contact Archives NZ directly as the copying is all included in their research fee. But if you're after a 'skinny' pre-WW1 naturalisation and are not able to get to Wellington in person then it may be more sensible to seek out SKS to go to Archives NZ on your behalf and get a copy for you. Although the pre-WW1 naturalisations are very short on detail, it's still a valuable family record; even seeing the signature (or the mark) can be quite effecting and revealing, especially if you don't already have a photo of the person. Hope this helps Angela

Hi Jenny and others I have a copy of a Naturalisation of an ancestor Carlo Schiavi which was recorded in the NZ Gazette in July 1865. The Naturalisation of this time frame as Angela mentioned holds very little information. In fact the Proclamation is the same as what was said in the Gazette. I am lucky in that Carlo lost his original papers and when he needed to apply for the age pension in 1906, needed to apply again. I have two records for him, the one in 1865 and the one 1906 which does give more information, but not as much as if he was passed WW1. Jenny I will send a couple of these to you off list so that you can see what was recorded. I got mine years ago from National Archives in Wellington, when it was search fee plus photocopying and postage, they hold them all and his papers are still not showing on Archway. Ailsa Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au www.st.net.au/~ailsa alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: ailsacorlett@gmail.com >-----Original Message----- >From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand- >bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Angela Reynolds >Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2014 6:30 PM >To: jagb@mcmedia.com.au; new-zealand@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [nz] Naturalisation Records for John Heinrich KROHNE 1869 > >Good evening Jenny & listers > >Although at times there may be the exception to the rule, ALL >naturalisation records are held at the Wellington office of Archives NZ. >Regardless of where the person was naturalised the record is almost >invariably held in Wellington. The Citizenship Research Guide has more >details: >http://archives.govt.nz/citizenship > >Generally speaking, only post WW2 naturalisations have been indexed on >Archway and most of these more recent records now have access restricted >until 100 years after the person's DOB. Earlier naturalisations are >indexed on the Kiwi Index (published by NZSG) and on Ancestry but not on >Archway. >All naturalisation records themselves are held by Archives NZ. > >I've seen lots of naturalisations - but the earliest ones I've seen date >from the 1870s - I've not looked at one as early as 1869. Generally >speaking, the pre-WW1 naturalisations contain very, very little info - >although sometimes you strike small nuggets of info - for example, my >grandfather came to NZ as a babe in arms in the 1870s and was >naturalised with his father but for some strange reason he was >naturalised again for a second time in his late 20s. At least this >second naturalisation gave me the bonus of the name of the person my >grandfather was working for at the time and where he was based. By >comparison, post WW1 naturalisations usually contain a goldmine of info >(generally including things like date of arrival in NZ, name of ship, >family members, addresses in NZ, jobs, character references, sometimes a >photo, ....). > >If you want a post WW1 naturalisation (often 30-40 pages) its probably >cost effective to contact Archives NZ directly as the copying is all >included in their research fee. But if you're after a 'skinny' pre-WW1 >naturalisation and are not able to get to Wellington in person then it >may be more sensible to seek out SKS to go to Archives NZ on your behalf >and get a copy for you. > >Although the pre-WW1 naturalisations are very short on detail, it's >still a valuable family record; even seeing the signature (or the mark) >can be quite effecting and revealing, especially if you don't already >have a photo of the person. > >Hope this helps >Angela