Hi Olwyn, I will forward your query to Ian & Stella ARNST, I am sure they will give you the correct details. Cheers Kathy Bisman Little River ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olwyn Whitehouse" <olwynbw@gmail.com> To: "new-zealand" <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: [nz] Jack Arnst- the cyclist. Was he with the NZEF and the AIF? > Is that a typo in the newspaper? Was he a member of the Australian Forces? > I can't find his AIF service record. > http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZH19181003.2.42.16 > > New Zealand Herald, 3 October 1918, Page 6 DEATH OF "JACK" ARNST. KIA in > France August 25 1918 > A well-known New Zealand cyclist, "Jack" Arnst who was a member of the > Australian Forces, has been killed in action. His brother, Dick, won the > world's sculling championship, and Walter, another brother, was also a > prominent athlete. Jack Arnst first came into prominence in New Zealand > road events, notably, to the Timaru-Christchurch Road Race. In 1903, he > represented New Zealand in the Warrnambool to Melbourne road race. From > scratch, he covered the distance, 165 miles, in 7h 43m. He is the only > rider to win the event from scratch. Amongst other fine performances to > his > credit were the Christchurch-Dunedin road record, 247 miles, in 12h 21m, > and the Timaru- Christchurch record, 112 miles, in 4h 50m. Arnst also > recorded two fine rides in the Goulbura-Sydney Race, 131 miles, in which > he > twice established the fastest time. > > Was he with the NZEF and the AIF? > > ARNST, JOHN (JACK) > Rank: Private > Service No: 51967 > Date of Death: 25/08/1918 > Age: 37 > Regiment/Service: Canterbury Regiment, N.Z.E.F. > 1st Bn. > GREVILLERS BRITISH CEMETERY > Son of C. Arnst, of Tai Tapu, and the late H. Arnst; husband of Agnes > Arnst, of 81, Hackthome Rd., Cashmere Hills, Christchurch. Ex-Champion > Road > Cyclist of New Zealand and Australia. > > Press, 8 November 1919, Page 4 > here was a large gathering in the Ladbrooks Hall last night, when the > ceremony of unveiling the Roll of Honour in memory of soldiers of the > district who had served their country at the front, was performed by > Colonel the Hon. R. Heaton Rhodes, M.P., who was accompanied by Mrs > Rhodes. > Mr H. Pickering, chairman of the local Patriotic Committee, presided over > the gathering, and other members of J the committee who were present were: > Messrs, A. Gabbatis, H. Watson, H. Arnst, P. Meyer, and A. Larcombe. > Colonel Rhodes said he saw there were some twenty-four names on the roll, > and when he looked about the district he almost wondered where the men had > come from to go to the front. He thought it was much to the credit of the > district that it had made such an excellent showing. Of the names on the > roll he noticed that four were to be honoured above the others, for they > had given their lives for their country, for the Empire, and for freedom. > He hoped all these names would remain in the hall for all time, and that > perhaps some even more lasting memorial would be erected to the men in > time > to come. The Germans had found the British nation unready in many > respects, > but not in one respect. The nation had the spirit to endure and to make > the > sacrifices necessary for victory. The fathers and mothers or the young men > had sent them forth to fight, not willingly or but with a nigh faith that > they would do their duty as Britishers always had done, and always would > do. In many cases the fathers themselves had gone to fight, and had > acquitted themselves gallantly. Such a spirit could never be conquered. > They were proud of the men whose names were on the roll, and prouder still > of the names of those who would never come back. They could not greet them > in the flesh, but their memory would endure for all time. The roll of > honour should be an inspiration to all who saw it, especially to the > children who no doubt would often be in the hall. He was not there to make > a political, speech, but he would say that all the people of New Zealand > and the Government of the country had a duty to perform to tho returned > men. There was a rush for land and for positions on the part of the men, > and this legitimate desire to get back into civil life under favourable > circumstances was one that they had a right to have fulfilled. That was > the > very least we could do for them after all they had done for the country. > The names of the soldiers on the roll were as follows: -- T. Roesler, J. > Trott, P. Pickering, P. McDrury, F. Coles, J. Coles, W. Tucker, E. Tucker, > T. Gabbatis*, L. Gabbatis, J. Taylor, S. Burke, F. Payne, J. Payne, W. > Small, T. Brown. T. Coleman, W. Payne*, H. Woodward*, L. Watson, J. > Arnst*, > J. Miller, A. Erickson and L. Erickson. > > > Nelson Evening Mail 11 January 1917, Page 2 > Before the Military Service Board today, Frederick Roesler, motor > mechanic, > of Ladbrooks, appealed on the grounds that he considered he was a German > and that he was the only man at home to look after his parents. The > appellant said his parents were German. His father was naturalised 20 > years > ago. He himself was born in New Zealand in 1878, and he had been here ever > since. He had two cousins who were officers in the German Army and another > cousin who was in the German Navy, and he with them till the war broke > out. > Asked with whom his sympaties lay, the appellant refused to answer, He > could speak German, he said. His mother, he added, was born in England of > German parents. His father was 74 and his mother 73. One of his brothers > was on a farm, another had left for the front with the Eighteenth > Reinforcements, and a third was working in the country. The chairman said > the appellant was a British subject, and he had not established any ground > for exemption. The appeal would be dismissed, but the fact that the > appellant was of German parentage and had refused to state with whom his > sympathies lay in the present struggle, would be noted, and the military > authorities could do with the appellant as they pleased. > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message