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    1. [nz] John Daley Death in 1869
    2. I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in 1863. Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on it. Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? Any ideas greatly appreciated.

    06/16/2014 09:21:28
    1. Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869
    2. J.M.de Montalk
    3. I had a child's accidental death in 1856 and tried to get the Coroner's report from National Archives, only to be told that often there simply wasn't an inquest at that time. They do hold a few early ones, but in this case the child died in Gisborne (or Turanganui as it was), and it was well out of the way so no inquest was held. It might be worth contacting National Archives in person. They let me view a sort of ledger which had an index of names for whom inquests had been held in that era, and I don't know if it has been put online. Jeanette > > I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in > 1863. > Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the > name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking > is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in > 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. > I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that > John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's > report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death > certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on > it. > Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? > Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have > birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. > William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. > The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in > 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article > states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child > was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she > married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" > Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? > Any ideas greatly appreciated. > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/16/2014 10:04:13
    1. Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869
    2. John Wilson
    3. Hi All: There are early inquests from the 1840s & 1850s in Archives which are not indexed in Archway by surname. Some are in the IA series (Colonial Secretary?) and some in early justice series. There is a book "Touching on Death" by Laurie Gluckman on early Auckland inquests. I have seen an inquest file for an inquest on Lucy Hollard, Karori (old ref National Archives box J 46/1). Lucy (born 1844) died 11 December 1849 a 5y, she was burnt to death when her dress caught alight from a stump c100 yards from the house. Her father pulled his coat off to smother the flames, and Lucy lived for an hour. Inquest held 12 December 1849 at Karori. She was the daughter of Charles and Anne Hollard. Yours, John Wilson Subject: Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869 >I had a child's accidental death in 1856 and tried to get the Coroner's > report from National Archives, only to be told that often there simply > wasn't an inquest at that time. They do hold a few early ones, but in this > case the child died in Gisborne (or Turanganui as it was), and it was well > out of the way so no inquest was held. It might be worth contacting > National > Archives in person. They let me view a sort of ledger which had an index > of > names for whom inquests had been held in that era, and I don't know if it > has been put online. > > Jeanette > >> I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in >> 1863. >> Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the >> name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking >> is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in >> 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. >> I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that >> John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's >> report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death >> certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on >> it. >> Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? >> Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have >> birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. >> William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. >> The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in >> 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article >> states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child >> was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she >> married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" >> Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? >> Any ideas greatly appreciated. >>

    06/17/2014 03:35:23
    1. Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869
    2. John Wilson
    3. Hi All: There are early inquests from the 1840s & 1850s in Archives which are not indexed in Archway by surname. Some are in the IA series (Colonial Secretary?) and some in early justice series. There is a book "Touching on Death" by Laurie Gluckman on early Auckland inquests. I have seen a 1949 inquest file for Lucy Hollard, Died Karori (old ref National Archives box J 46/1). Lucy (born 1844) died 11 December 1849 a 5y, she was burnt to death when her dress caught alight from a stump c100 yards from the house. Her father pulled his coat off to smother the flames, and Lucy lived for an hour. Inquest held 12 December at Karori. She was the daughter of Charles and Anne Hollard. Yours, John Wilson Subject: Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869 >I had a child's accidental death in 1856 and tried to get the Coroner's > report from National Archives, only to be told that often there simply > wasn't an inquest at that time. They do hold a few early ones, but in this > case the child died in Gisborne (or Turanganui as it was), and it was well > out of the way so no inquest was held. It might be worth contacting > National > Archives in person. They let me view a sort of ledger which had an index > of > names for whom inquests had been held in that era, and I don't know if it > has been put online. > > Jeanette > >> I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in >> 1863. >> Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the >> name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking >> is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in >> 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. >> I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that >> John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's >> report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death >> certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on it. >> >> Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? >> Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have >> birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. >> William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. >> The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in >> 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article >> states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child >> was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she >> married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" >> Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? >> Any ideas greatly appreciated. >>

    06/17/2014 05:24:39
    1. Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869
    2. marina
    3. Not everything is on Archway. Suggest you contact, Archives New Zealand, and make an enquiry. They hold surviving Coroner's Inquests from c.1840. I hold a Coroner's Inquest for early 1868, Canterbury Region, for a river drowning. Marina I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in 1863. Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on it. Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? Any ideas greatly appreciated. The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/16/2014 11:09:07