I am trying to locate the passenger list and/or surgeons report for the "Winterthur" sailing to Auckland, NZ from London on the 23 May 1865. Is there someone out there who has knowledge of where these records may be. National Archives Wgtn and Auckland do not hold anything and nor does the Auckland Library apart from the passenger's names but no other information. Passengers William Williams, Maria Williams and another William Williams sailed on this ship but proof is required before I can claim them as my ancestors eg where they were born, ages, occupations. Thank you. From Margaret Margaret Armstrong margaret@megadyne.co.nz Ph +64-9-576 3676

The 3 book series of Log of Logs by Ian Nicholson may have something. Noeleen. -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Armstrong [mailto:margaret@megadyne.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 12 November 2018 11:21 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Ship Named Winterthur I am trying to locate the passenger list and/or surgeons report for the "Winterthur" sailing to Auckland, NZ from London on the 23 May 1865. Is there someone out there who has knowledge of where these records may be. National Archives Wgtn and Auckland do not hold anything and nor does the Auckland Library apart from the passenger's names but no other information. Margaret Armstrong margaret@megadyne.co.nz Ph +64-9-576 3676 _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Noeleen, I'll check these out. Regards Margaret Margaret Armstrong margaret@megadyne.co.nz Ph +64-9-576 3676 -----Original Message----- From: Noeleen Sutton [mailto:nsutton@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 1:07 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Re: Ship Named Winterthur The 3 book series of Log of Logs by Ian Nicholson may have something. Noeleen. -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Armstrong [mailto:margaret@megadyne.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 12 November 2018 11:21 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Ship Named Winterthur I am trying to locate the passenger list and/or surgeons report for the "Winterthur" sailing to Auckland, NZ from London on the 23 May 1865. Is there someone out there who has knowledge of where these records may be. National Archives Wgtn and Auckland do not hold anything and nor does the Auckland Library apart from the passenger's names but no other information. Margaret Armstrong margaret@megadyne.co.nz Ph +64-9-576 3676 _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19150524.2.132 https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19380704.2.156 http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ourstuff/genealogy/Winterthur1866.htm https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19350523.2.98 https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19440106.2.2.3 https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19380707.2.15 New Zealand Herald 4 July 1938 Page 14 EARLY AUCKLAND. AGED RESIDENT'S MEMORIES MRS. M. PILLINGER JACKSON Memories of the time when an important part of Auckland's present-day business area was but a tidal swamp and when a journey made with a bullock waggon from Onehunga to Queen Street represented a trek of several days are retained by Mrs. Margaret Pillinger Jackson, of 61 Balmoral Road, Mount Eden. Mrs. Jackson, who is in her 90th year, has been a resident of Auckland for more than 70 years. The second daughter of Mr. and Mrs. B. Williams, Mrs. Jackson was born in Liverpool on November 23, 1848, and came to New Zealand when she was 16 years of age. Her sister and brother-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. D. Patterson, were emigrating to New Zealand and she decided to accompany them, more with the idea of making a holiday trip than with settling here. They were among the 126 passengers carried in the barque Winterthur. Miss Williams was married shortly before her 18th birthday to Captain Benjamin Pillinger, who was lost at sea in March, 1884. At the time of his death, Captain Pillinger was master of the islands trading schooner Louie. Twelve years later, Mrs. Pillinger married Mr. Arthur Strother Jackson, who died in 1910. Apart from residence for short periods at Thames and at Aratapu, in the Northern Wairoa district, and from a trip made in England in 1902, at the time of the coronation of King Edward VII., Mrs. Jackson has lived in Auckland ever since she came to New Zealand. Three of Mrs. Jackson's seven children are still living. There are 11 grandchildren and six great-grandchildren. Although age has dimmed her memory to some extent of happenings years ago, Mrs. Jackson is remarkably alert and takes a keen interest in current affairs. http://www.akcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/passengers/passenger.html Name PATTERSON, Anne Vessel WINTERTHUR: May 23 1865 Name PATTERSON, David Vessel WINTERTHUR: May 23 1865 Name WILLIAMS, Frank Vessel WINTERTHUR: Oct 19 1866 Name WILLIAMS, Maria Vessel WINTERTHUR: May 23 1865 Name WILLIAMS, William Vessel WINTERTHUR: May 23 1865 Name WILLIAMS, William Vessel WINTERTHUR: May 23 1865 Log of Logs Vol 1 WINTERTHUR, ship, 688t, of London. Five voyages. 5 Official logs and articles etc. Mitchell Library, Sydney, MSS 2344, Boxes YV538, YV 540, YV 542, Y 4489 and Box YV 1133. White Wings: The Winterthur. The Winterthur made two voyages to Auckland, occupying respectively 119 and 117 days. On the first passage out she sailed from London on the 23rd January, 1865, with 126 passengers, under the command of Captain Goudie, who had visited Auckland three years earlier in the Matilda Wattenbach. The ship had a rough experience in the Channel, and did not clear Start Point until the 9th February. She crossed the line on the 18th March. Port was reached on May 23rd. In 1866, the Winterthur came out with Captain Hunt in command. She left Gravesend on the 24th June, and reached Auckland on the 19th October, after a pleasant and uneventful passage. The vessel was able to carry her royals until passing the Cape. On this occasion the Winterthur brought only 59 passengers. Winterthur Ship: 986 tons Captain: Edwin R Hunt Surgeon Superintendent: Dr Henry E Herbert Sailed London June 24th 1866 - arrived Auckland October 19th 1866 The Winterthur made two voyages to Auckland, occupying respectively 119 and 117 days. On the first passage sge sailed from London on the 23rd January, 1865, with 126 passengers, under the command of Captain Goudie, who had visited Auckland three years earlier in the Matilda Wattenbach. The ship had a rough experience in the Channel, and did not clear Start Point until the 9th February. She crossed the line on the 18th March. Port was reached on May 23rd. In 1866, the Winterthur came out with Captain Hunt in command. She left Gravesend on the 24th June, and reached Auckland on the 19th October, after a pleasant and uneventful passage. The vessel was able to carry her royals until passing the Cape. On this occasion the Winterthur brought out only 59 passengers. White Wings - Sir Henry Brett On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 04:21, Margaret Armstrong <margaret@megadyne.co.nz> wrote: > I am trying to locate the passenger list and/or surgeons report for the > "Winterthur" sailing to Auckland, NZ from London on the 23 May 1865. Is > there someone out there who has knowledge of where these records may be. > National Archives Wgtn and Auckland do not hold anything and nor does the > Auckland Library apart from the passenger's names but no other information. > > Passengers William Williams, Maria Williams and another William Williams > sailed on this ship but proof is required before I can claim them as my > ancestors eg where they were born, ages, occupations. > From Margaret Armstrong > margaret@megadyne.co.nz > >