Thanks to all those who have helped so far with my quest to find out who the badge belonged to. There are so many possibilities - I just wish I had asked my granny when she was alive. The NZ Rifle hat badge may be a red herring but I doubt whether she would have hung onto it all her life if it was just given to her by someone without a close connection and I doubt whether she would have been given it unless it was from someone that died. I’ve just guessed it may be from her dead fiancee. Would his effects have been sent to her after his death? I’ve hunted through the Birmingham newspapers and like someone suggested there don’t appear to be engagement notices and during war time there would have been likely to have been even less. Her father was a clerk so I’ve assumed from not a very well off family who during war time may not have been able to publish engagement notices because of the cost. The Ormond connection may be completely wrong too - may be through her Toch work she met someone with the surname Ormond and they offered to help her and her new fiancee emigrate to NZ. The fact that the only Ormond who was killed in World War 1 was not in the Dinks makes me think that she would not have been engaged to him - the Ormond fatality seems to have come from a well off family and I’m sure we would have known if my granny was engaged to someone with potential wealth. When I did the family history of my grandparents I did find an address for the Ormond my grandfather worked for and I’m sure it was in the North Island and from a vague memory I thought it was somewhere in the middle of the North Island. I know there was bridge building involved but as it is years ago I have forgotten not only the detail but where I got the name Ormond from and where I have put the notes I made at the time. My grandfather was an assisted immigrant in I think 1920 or 1921 and m! y grandmother came out later as she was pregnant at the time and pregnant women were not allowed to emigrate. She emigrated about a year later with my infant mother. I did ask her why she chose to emigrate to NZ and she told me that she hated the smog in Birmingham - whenever you hung up washing it went grey with soot smuts and it caused your chest to hurt when you walked outside at night. There was no mention then of the first fiancee - that was information my mother gave me many years ago. I do know for definite that Granny was engaged twice - she had 2 engagement rings and seemed disappointed when I chose the ring my grandfather had given to her rather than the one her first fiancee had given her - she said the first one was worth a lot more money but the connection was the important thing to me - my grandfather was a very special person in my life and it gave me an ongoing connection with him. I wear the ring a lot. So please keep up the ideas - I’d love to know who the poor man was who’s hat badge we now treasure and have mounted with Granny’s other badges next to her photo wearing her Womens Auxiliary uniform. It would be nice to remember him with a name. Sue Thomas