Hi all, I had a swimming teacher when I was young , her surname was Zimmermann but she was Dutch. Cheers Chris -------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Collins (Skellern)" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:24 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [nz]Re: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 343 > Zimmerman is a German name, he might not have served with *us*! > > J > > On 14/11/2018, at 12:05 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:05:40 +1300 > From: "Adele Pentony-Graham" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: [nz]ZIMMERMAN > To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Message-ID: <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Whilst at Featherston unveiling service this last weekend, was talking to > a > visitor to the area, he is trying to find details of a Gt Uncle who served > in WW1, supposedly died in France. 1916 but can never find anything about > him. another mystery.. > > > > Antos Anastasius ZIMMERMAN from New Plymouth.. Born Tariki Road. > Taranaki > . 3 MAY 1888. > > > > > > Would love to be able to find out about him, have checked up my copy of > the > book The Great War 1914-1918, not listed. did find one soldier with the > surname but not Antos. wondering what name he went under for school? He > has tried different spellings nothing comes up.. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Adele > > Clareville. > > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community
Zimmerman is a German name, he might not have served with *us*! J On 14/11/2018, at 12:05 PM, [email protected] wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:05:40 +1300 From: "Adele Pentony-Graham" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [nz]ZIMMERMAN To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Whilst at Featherston unveiling service this last weekend, was talking to a visitor to the area, he is trying to find details of a Gt Uncle who served in WW1, supposedly died in France. 1916 but can never find anything about him. another mystery.. Antos Anastasius ZIMMERMAN from New Plymouth.. Born Tariki Road. Taranaki . 3 MAY 1888. Would love to be able to find out about him, have checked up my copy of the book The Great War 1914-1918, not listed. did find one soldier with the surname but not Antos. wondering what name he went under for school? He has tried different spellings nothing comes up.. Thank you Adele Clareville.
There is a Polish family history on line. Dodunski - Schimanski from Stratford, New Plymouth area. Has a list of Zimmermans. Maybe surname anglicized in war like our Rose from Rosenstein. Noeleen. -----Original Message----- From: Adele Pentony-Graham [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [nz]ZIMMERMAN
Hi Adele Have also checked under Zimmermann and Zimmerman also just with one 'm' Commonwealth War Graves Commission have no listing that I can see. 3 Family trees on a commercial site state what is already known. Died 1916 in France but no supporting evidence. A mystery waiting to be solved Regards David On 14-Nov-18 12:05 PM, Adele Pentony-Graham wrote: > Whilst at Featherston unveiling service this last weekend, was talking to a > visitor to the area, he is trying to find details of a Gt Uncle who served > in WW1, supposedly died in France. 1916 but can never find anything about > him. another mystery.. > > > > Antos Anastasius ZIMMERMAN from New Plymouth.. Born Tariki Road. Taranaki > . 3 MAY 1888. > > > > > > Would love to be able to find out about him, have checked up my copy of the > book The Great War 1914-1918, not listed. did find one soldier with the > surname but not Antos. wondering what name he went under for school? He > has tried different spellings nothing comes up.. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Adele > > Clareville. > > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnew-zealand-l.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb757e8ef12f44b26ed6408d649bca2aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636777471876812917&sdata=DrBTmuRAjVop7cubKAw8fYBylMMDdXtgTC7G%2FIJMMn4%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb757e8ef12f44b26ed6408d649bca2aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636777471876812917&sdata=toHjC0%2BxIvmJs5qHWhcuneAPAxwooDW2CMwR%2F6%2BXZ4s%3D&reserved=0 > Unsubscribe https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fnew-zealand%40rootsweb.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb757e8ef12f44b26ed6408d649bca2aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636777471876812917&sdata=CyFjGB1uERuHy2%2Fxxnk7pdcfvjfKDDUSjkloVXyGQXk%3D&reserved=0 > Privacy Statement: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb757e8ef12f44b26ed6408d649bca2aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636777471876812917&sdata=Byl%2BGsBC6EnXLT7lz0JCnvabfl6mzRdE%2BqHGrRgqE3c%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb757e8ef12f44b26ed6408d649bca2aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636777471876969175&sdata=Tvwv5TNGRpInZ0nDv9UvKSMOEfp3qbl3ZVlWOQOSk0Y%3D&reserved=0 > Rootsweb Blog: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb757e8ef12f44b26ed6408d649bca2aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636777471876969175&sdata=7QCOcbG3rsPpbcZ%2FX%2F%2F3J8lC7ZvVSVt6ZV8rgA%2FhrFw%3D&reserved=0 > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
He may be in our Inglewood records. I'll check it out when I get a moment.Cheers MarySent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Adele Pentony-Graham <[email protected]> Date: 14/11/18 12:05 PM (GMT+12:00) To: [email protected] Subject: [nz]ZIMMERMAN Whilst at Featherston unveiling service this last weekend, was talking to avisitor to the area, he is trying to find details of a Gt Uncle who servedin WW1, supposedly died in France. 1916 but can never find anything abouthim. another mystery.. Antos Anastasius ZIMMERMAN from New Plymouth.. Born Tariki Road. Taranaki. 3 MAY 1888. Would love to be able to find out about him, have checked up my copy of thebook The Great War 1914-1918, not listed. did find one soldier with thesurname but not Antos. wondering what name he went under for school? Hehas tried different spellings nothing comes up.. Thank you AdeleClareville._______________________________________________The List Guidelineshttp://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Thank you to the listers for information and suggestions. I will contact Auckland libraries to see if they can find additional information. Chris in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noeleen Sutton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:40 AM Subject: [nz]Re: nelson and symonds streets auckland circa 1864 > The Auckland City Council have their own archives and are very obliging. > They are online for email enquiries. > Noeleen. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ChrisK [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 1:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [nz]Re: nelson and symonds streets auckland circa 1864 > > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qvggetww9df09xv/AAAhbJ2n86GxmgNKx4aSIkOfa?dl=0 Hope this works, thanks Sue On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:52 AM Wendy Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Sue, > > That link you posted is to your own computer. We can't access that. > > You're using Dropbox, according to that link - that makes life really easy, > as Dropbox make it simple to share links to your files and folders... > > Go to File Explorer and locate that file in your Dropbox folder. Then > right-click on the file name, and from the menu that pops up select Copy > Dropbox Link. This copies the Dropbox URL to your computer's memory, ready > for you to paste into an email or anywhere else you want to share it. > > I've done that with a photo in my Dropbox account just now, as an example, > and the link looks like this: > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/54b9fkt915i268n/2018-11-05%2020.45.12.jpg?dl=0 > > (That's a picture I took the other day of my cat.) > > Hope this helps. :-) > > Wendy > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:23 PM Sue king <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Thanks for the offer - Street Photos > > (file://LAPTOP-5VKA498C/Users/Sue/Dropbox/Street%20Photos) > > > > There is no photographer's names unfortunately. I think all three photos > > are street photos. > > > > I had a look at Auckland Library website but didn't have any luck. > > > > Many thanks Sue > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:04 PM Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Give us a cloud link (dropbox, onedrive etc) to look at the photo. > > > Also Auckland Library has a database online of photographers, where and > > > when they were working. You probably need the photographer's name > though. > > > Bryan > > > On 06-Nov-18 12:57:43 PM, Sue king <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am trying to work out where and when a couple of photos were taken. > > > They're obviously taken on the street. Would the photographer taken > more > > > than one of a couple? Are the copies still available anywhere? I think > > that > > > they were taken either in Wellington or Christchurch/Timaru. Any > > > suggestions please. > > > > > > Many thanks Sue > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
The Auckland City Council have their own archives and are very obliging. They are online for email enquiries. Noeleen. -----Original Message----- From: ChrisK [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 1:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [nz]Re: nelson and symonds streets auckland circa 1864
hi susan, this is a good find thank you. i was hoping to drill down further to find the name of the cottages in nelson street where eleanor and henry thewlis lived.. chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Wann" <[email protected]> To: "New Zealand Rootsweb" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 9:19 PM Subject: [nz]Re: nelson and symonds streets auckland circa 1864 > Hi Chris > > This might be helpful. There is a Thewlis (?spelling) listed. > > http://www.enzb.auckland.ac.nz/document/?wid=2836&page=1&action=null > > Susan > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:06 PM ChrisK <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am trying to track down details of witnesses at the wedding of my gr >> great grandparents Adam Moore and Charlotte Richardson. The couple was >> married in 1864, when aged 44 and 45 respectively at St Matthews Anglican >> Church. The writing on the church marriage record is not easily >> decipherable for the witness' signatures especially but it looks like >> a.. Eleanor Thewlis, laundress, of 3 ?otago cottages Nelson street >> Auckland >> b.. and ? george Walker, labourer, Symonds street >> >> Are there any directories for circa 1864 which list residents per street? >> My ancestors lived in Nelson street at the time of their marriage (ref >> ITM) >> and i'm curious to see if the female witness was a neighbour or whether >> she >> was a connection from Ireland. >> >> And secondly was there a building in Nelson street which was named either >> 3 or 30 and a word that looks like otago cottages please. >> >> My search interest is in the residents in either of these streets. >> >> Could any listers head me in a particular direction please? >> >> >> Chris >> >> in >> Melbourne >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community
Whilst at Featherston unveiling service this last weekend, was talking to a visitor to the area, he is trying to find details of a Gt Uncle who served in WW1, supposedly died in France. 1916 but can never find anything about him. another mystery.. Antos Anastasius ZIMMERMAN from New Plymouth.. Born Tariki Road. Taranaki . 3 MAY 1888. Would love to be able to find out about him, have checked up my copy of the book The Great War 1914-1918, not listed. did find one soldier with the surname but not Antos. wondering what name he went under for school? He has tried different spellings nothing comes up.. Thank you Adele Clareville.
Hi Nivard Thank you so much for that important piece of information. I have printed it off for further use if required. Funny that there were supposedly only two births in total that occurred on the Winterthur when one of NZ newspapers reported that there were 'six births, three deaths, two of them infants'. The newspaper reports varied slightly when it came to the passengers but one showed the names (exactly as shown here) Wm, Maria, and Wm. Williams. I'm sure that these are my lot but because the occupations detailed showed 1 painter and my William was a scenic artist. But to be 100% sure I need to see the full passenger list showing their ages/birth places/occupations. Only one list that I have found shows only the 1st and 2nd Class Cabin passengers. So to answer your question the names I am seeking are: William Williams bn c1807 London, Maria Williams (nee Dimmock) bn bet 1836-1840 Croft, Leicestershire and William Williams Jnr bn c1863 London. Would you have any idea where I could locate the passenger list of the Winterthur that sailed from London to Auckland, NZ arriving on the 23 May 1865? I've tried numerous repositories here in NZ and a couple in Sydney, Australia. I do look forward to your reply Nivard. Oh, my Gray ancestors came from Redruth Cornwall, left abt 1863 to St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands. My gt grandmother came to NZ at the age of 17 alone. Kind regards Margaret Margaret Armstrong [email protected] Ph +64-9-576 3676 -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea Hi Margaret There was a notice from the registrar general in 1837 to all captains or commanding officers of British vessels, that if any child of an English parent shall be born at sea on board a British vessel, they are to record the details and on arrival at any port of the United Kingdom or by any sooner opportunity, send a certificate of the details through the post office to the registrar general However, very far from all captains complied with the notice and of those that did, not all were received or acted upon As you can see there was also plenty of scope for a birth to not be recorded if a parent wasn't English or Welsh And the wording "on the arrival of the Vessel in any Port of the United Kingdom" does not explicitly say the first port of the UK The board of trade were supposed to pass back any registrations to the GRO, some were, some weren't So all in all the chances of a birth not being registered at all are great In the overseas registrations from the board of trade, there were no births registered for the Winterthur in 1865 Between 1863 and 1867 there were two births registered for the Winterthur A JONES in 1866 and a SCOTT in 1867 Expanding that search to 1855 to 1875 there are still only two births as above What were the names you were seeking? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/11/2018 02:06, Margaret Armstrong wrote: > Six births and three deaths were recorded in a newspaper publication that > occurred on board the Winterthur that sailed to Auckland, NZ arriving on the > 23 May 1865. Where would these have been recorded? I've tried the obvious > sites. > > > > Thanks to one and all. > > > > Margaret Armstrong _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Sue, That link you posted is to your own computer. We can't access that. You're using Dropbox, according to that link - that makes life really easy, as Dropbox make it simple to share links to your files and folders... Go to File Explorer and locate that file in your Dropbox folder. Then right-click on the file name, and from the menu that pops up select Copy Dropbox Link. This copies the Dropbox URL to your computer's memory, ready for you to paste into an email or anywhere else you want to share it. I've done that with a photo in my Dropbox account just now, as an example, and the link looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/54b9fkt915i268n/2018-11-05%2020.45.12.jpg?dl=0 (That's a picture I took the other day of my cat.) Hope this helps. :-) Wendy On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:23 PM Sue king <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > > Thanks for the offer - Street Photos > (file://LAPTOP-5VKA498C/Users/Sue/Dropbox/Street%20Photos) > > There is no photographer's names unfortunately. I think all three photos > are street photos. > > I had a look at Auckland Library website but didn't have any luck. > > Many thanks Sue > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:04 PM Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Give us a cloud link (dropbox, onedrive etc) to look at the photo. > > Also Auckland Library has a database online of photographers, where and > > when they were working. You probably need the photographer's name though. > > Bryan > > On 06-Nov-18 12:57:43 PM, Sue king <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am trying to work out where and when a couple of photos were taken. > > They're obviously taken on the street. Would the photographer taken more > > than one of a couple? Are the copies still available anywhere? I think > that > > they were taken either in Wellington or Christchurch/Timaru. Any > > suggestions please. > > > > Many thanks Sue > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hi Chris This might be helpful. There is a Thewlis (?spelling) listed. http://www.enzb.auckland.ac.nz/document/?wid=2836&page=1&action=null Susan On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:06 PM ChrisK <[email protected]> wrote: > I am trying to track down details of witnesses at the wedding of my gr > great grandparents Adam Moore and Charlotte Richardson. The couple was > married in 1864, when aged 44 and 45 respectively at St Matthews Anglican > Church. The writing on the church marriage record is not easily > decipherable for the witness' signatures especially but it looks like > a.. Eleanor Thewlis, laundress, of 3 ?otago cottages Nelson street > Auckland > b.. and ? george Walker, labourer, Symonds street > > Are there any directories for circa 1864 which list residents per street? > My ancestors lived in Nelson street at the time of their marriage (ref ITM) > and i'm curious to see if the female witness was a neighbour or whether she > was a connection from Ireland. > > And secondly was there a building in Nelson street which was named either > 3 or 30 and a word that looks like otago cottages please. > > My search interest is in the residents in either of these streets. > > Could any listers head me in a particular direction please? > > > Chris > > in > Melbourne > > >
Hi Margaret There was a notice from the registrar general in 1837 to all captains or commanding officers of British vessels, that if any child of an English parent shall be born at sea on board a British vessel, they are to record the details and on arrival at any port of the United Kingdom or by any sooner opportunity, send a certificate of the details through the post office to the registrar general However, very far from all captains complied with the notice and of those that did, not all were received or acted upon As you can see there was also plenty of scope for a birth to not be recorded if a parent wasn't English or Welsh And the wording "on the arrival of the Vessel in any Port of the United Kingdom" does not explicitly say the first port of the UK The board of trade were supposed to pass back any registrations to the GRO, some were, some weren't So all in all the chances of a birth not being registered at all are great In the overseas registrations from the board of trade, there were no births registered for the Winterthur in 1865 Between 1863 and 1867 there were two births registered for the Winterthur A JONES in 1866 and a SCOTT in 1867 Expanding that search to 1855 to 1875 there are still only two births as above What were the names you were seeking? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/11/2018 02:06, Margaret Armstrong wrote: > Six births and three deaths were recorded in a newspaper publication that > occurred on board the Winterthur that sailed to Auckland, NZ arriving on the > 23 May 1865. Where would these have been recorded? I've tried the obvious > sites. > > > > Thanks to one and all. > > > > Margaret Armstrong
My great grandmother was born at sea, at least I presume that was the case, as her (Georgina BUCKHAM), birth certificate states 'Tasmania (at sea)'. This was 1853. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Sue king <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 4:52 PM To: new Zealand List <[email protected]> Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea Hi, my greatgrandfather was born at sea and registered when they landed in Sydney. I had been told that most births/deaths were registered where the ship was registered luckily this wasn't to be in my case. Sue On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:41 PM Goldstraw <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > I had a child born at sea but he was not registered when they landed > here in Victoria, I found him as a grown man after he died, where > thank goodness on his death cert his birth place was 'at sea'. Tho' > years of researching I never found his family even tho' he had > married. > Some ship's logs only had number of births and deaths as was the case > in this birth. > Cheers Chris > Victoria > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:14 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea > > > Margaret, they would have been recorded on the Ship's Log, and > registered > > at > > the first port of call. > > Jenelle. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Margaret Armstrong [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:06 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [nz]Births At Sea > > > > Six births and three deaths were recorded in a newspaper publication > > that occurred on board the Winterthur that sailed to Auckland, NZ > > arriving on the > > 23 May 1865. Where would these have been recorded? I've tried the > > obvious sites. > > > > > > > > Thanks to one and all. > > > > > > > > Margaret Armstrong > > > > [email protected] > > > > Ph +64-9-576 3676 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Chris, The ship , actually there were two with the same name, because when I had a day at the SLV I looked up a diary for the one that actually docked in Melb. Amazing diary of the voyage but my little boat my ancestors came on docked in Portland ( Bloomer) and then went to Melb and then on to South America, what a voyage for the Captain. I have a booklet written by the Historians from Portland family History of the vessels that docked in Portland and the "Bloomer" is there. It's a long time since I have looked at the Vital records disc. Many thanks for the help Chris Vic -------------------------------------------------- From: "ChrisK" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:46 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea > Hi Chris, > > Did you eventually find the birth registration for the child born at sea > in 1853? and do you have the ship's name. Like another lister, I also have > the Australian Vital Records disk as well as Pioneer disk. Happy to look > up > > Chris K > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goldstraw" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:33 PM > Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea > > >> Hi Chris K, >> >> Yes, I know about Portland, I live in Warrnambool, rather ironic I came >> back to almost where the family landed. My ancestor was a cabinet Maker >> and was assigned to James Ritchie at Mt Rouse. Two children including my >> great grandfather were born at Dunkeld and registered in Hamilton. The >> family left the area around 1859 and I didn't find them until 1872 in >> Richmond Melbourne and have no idea where they went in all those years. >> They sure were busy times and the gold rush didn't help, people >> everywhere. >> Regards >> Chris >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "ChrisK" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:18 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea >> >>> My family also landed at Portland with a child "born on board" about >>> 1854. Searching BDM Vic "at sea" didn't reveal anything as the family >>> surname was totally misspelled and the ship's name was the baby boy's >>> second name. Finally a breakthough when I found the shipping list. >>> Portland was a deep water harbour and very busy in 1850's as the western >>> district was being opened up to selectors who needed farm labourers. >>> >>> Chris K >>> >>> in >>> Melbourne >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Goldstraw" <[email protected]> >>> To: "new Zealand List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:59 PM >>> Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea >>> >>> >>>> Dear Sue, >>>> >>>> You were lucky. Mine docked in Portland Victoria, probably busy harbour >>>> at the time in 1853. I checked all the info their family history centre >>>> had but couldn't find a registration, even a church baptism. >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Sue king" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:52 PM >>>> To: "new Zealand List" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea >>>> >>>>> Hi, my greatgrandfather was born at sea and registered when they >>>>> landed in >>>>> Sydney. I had been told that most births/deaths were registered where >>>>> the >>>>> ship was registered luckily this wasn't to be in my case. >>>>> >>>>> Sue >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:41 PM Goldstraw <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I had a child born at sea but he was not registered when they landed >>>>>> here >>>>>> in >>>>>> Victoria, I found him as a grown man after he died, where thank >>>>>> goodness >>>>>> on >>>>>> his death cert his birth place was 'at sea'. Tho' years of >>>>>> researching I >>>>>> never found his family even tho' he had married. >>>>>> Some ship's logs only had number of births and deaths as was the case >>>>>> in >>>>>> this birth. >>>>>> Cheers Chris >>>>>> Victoria >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> The List Guidelines >>>> >>>> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe >>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>>> community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> The List Guidelines >>> >>> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community
years ago I found my ancestors in a 1866 directory of auckland living in Cook St. (not far from Nelson St). Cannot remember where directory was but check with Auckland City Library. One of those early researches where i did not record all the details of my sources. Shirley On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:06 PM ChrisK <[email protected]> wrote: > I am trying to track down details of witnesses at the wedding of my gr > great grandparents Adam Moore and Charlotte Richardson. The couple was > married in 1864, when aged 44 and 45 respectively at St Matthews Anglican > Church. The writing on the church marriage record is not easily > decipherable for the witness' signatures especially but it looks like > a.. Eleanor Thewlis, laundress, of 3 ?otago cottages Nelson street > Auckland > b.. and ? george Walker, labourer, Symonds street > > Are there any directories for circa 1864 which list residents per street? > My ancestors lived in Nelson street at the time of their marriage (ref ITM) > and i'm curious to see if the female witness was a neighbour or whether she > was a connection from Ireland. > > And secondly was there a building in Nelson street which was named either > 3 or 30 and a word that looks like otago cottages please. > > My search interest is in the residents in either of these streets. > > Could any listers head me in a particular direction please? > > > Chris > > in > Melbourne > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Chris the BDM NZ shows a birth 1902/9310 as John Leslie with parents Margaret/Ernest Andrew. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: Goldstraw [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:28 PM To: new-zealand Subject: [nz]Patrick...name 1902 Hi listers, I have an email dated 2008 from a Sherida Sibley who told me she had a relative Leslie John PATRICK born Wellington NZ 27 Feb 1902. He married in 1923 and they had seven (7) children. He died in 1961. I am now wondering who his parents might have been as I've always wondered why my great grandparents ever went to NZ from Scotland in 1879. They lived in Dunedin NZ. My great grandparents were David and Jane PATRICK, her maiden name was WALKER, whether she had siblings living in NZ, I am not sure and maybe that's why they went there. Her siblings were all born at Bothkennar, Stirling, Scotland as was she. Their parents were Helen nee RAE and John WALKER married Jan 2 1847 James born 1848 Jane* 1849 Peter 1852 Catherine 1854 Helen (Nellie) 1856 Janet 1858 John 1860 Peter 1864 Hopefully someone has a connection, or is researching this family, so any help gratefully appreciated. Regards Chris Victoria Australia _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
I have an ancestry sub if that's any good to you...don't forget the old familysearch site. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: Goldstraw [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:28 PM To: new-zealand Subject: [nz]Patrick...name 1902 Hi listers, I have an email dated 2008 from a Sherida Sibley who told me she had a relative Leslie John PATRICK born Wellington NZ 27 Feb 1902. He married in 1923 and they had seven (7) children. He died in 1961. I am now wondering who his parents might have been as I've always wondered why my great grandparents ever went to NZ from Scotland in 1879. They lived in Dunedin NZ. My great grandparents were David and Jane PATRICK, her maiden name was WALKER, whether she had siblings living in NZ, I am not sure and maybe that's why they went there. Her siblings were all born at Bothkennar, Stirling, Scotland as was she. Their parents were Helen nee RAE and John WALKER married Jan 2 1847 James born 1848 Jane* 1849 Peter 1852 Catherine 1854 Helen (Nellie) 1856 Janet 1858 John 1860 Peter 1864 Hopefully someone has a connection, or is researching this family, so any help gratefully appreciated. Regards Chris Victoria Australia _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
Hi Chris, Did you eventually find the birth registration for the child born at sea in 1853? and do you have the ship's name. Like another lister, I also have the Australian Vital Records disk as well as Pioneer disk. Happy to look up Chris K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goldstraw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:33 PM Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea > Hi Chris K, > > Yes, I know about Portland, I live in Warrnambool, rather ironic I came > back to almost where the family landed. My ancestor was a cabinet Maker > and was assigned to James Ritchie at Mt Rouse. Two children including my > great grandfather were born at Dunkeld and registered in Hamilton. The > family left the area around 1859 and I didn't find them until 1872 in > Richmond Melbourne and have no idea where they went in all those years. > They sure were busy times and the gold rush didn't help, people > everywhere. > Regards > Chris > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "ChrisK" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:18 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea > >> My family also landed at Portland with a child "born on board" about >> 1854. Searching BDM Vic "at sea" didn't reveal anything as the family >> surname was totally misspelled and the ship's name was the baby boy's >> second name. Finally a breakthough when I found the shipping list. >> Portland was a deep water harbour and very busy in 1850's as the western >> district was being opened up to selectors who needed farm labourers. >> >> Chris K >> >> in >> Melbourne >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Goldstraw" <[email protected]> >> To: "new Zealand List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:59 PM >> Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea >> >> >>> Dear Sue, >>> >>> You were lucky. Mine docked in Portland Victoria, probably busy harbour >>> at the time in 1853. I checked all the info their family history centre >>> had but couldn't find a registration, even a church baptism. >>> Chris >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Sue king" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:52 PM >>> To: "new Zealand List" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [nz]Re: Births At Sea >>> >>>> Hi, my greatgrandfather was born at sea and registered when they landed >>>> in >>>> Sydney. I had been told that most births/deaths were registered where >>>> the >>>> ship was registered luckily this wasn't to be in my case. >>>> >>>> Sue >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:41 PM Goldstraw <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I had a child born at sea but he was not registered when they landed >>>>> here >>>>> in >>>>> Victoria, I found him as a grown man after he died, where thank >>>>> goodness >>>>> on >>>>> his death cert his birth place was 'at sea'. Tho' years of researching >>>>> I >>>>> never found his family even tho' he had married. >>>>> Some ship's logs only had number of births and deaths as was the case >>>>> in >>>>> this birth. >>>>> Cheers Chris >>>>> Victoria >>>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> The List Guidelines >>> >>> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community