Hello All I have photographed the gravestones at St Paul's Anglican Church, West Melton, Canterbury. do email for a copy of any you would like. Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Gravestone.Photos/West.Melton.Anglican.gravestones.html --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Ainslie You will remember that NZ wasn't a separate country or self-governing entity until some time after 1840 Dates are important-- some considerations - 1) Before 1840 NZ was not independent and was a part of the Colony of NSW 2) NSW was declared a Colony in 1788, with arrival of the First Fleet - the Governor exercised authority over all the territory east of the 135th meridian, which included NZ (- so Wikipedia tells me) 3) From 1803, some settlements were established in Tasmania 4) in 1825 Tasmania (VDL) became a colony separate from NSW 5) In 1839 Britain included NZ in the Colony of NSW, and NSW laws operated in NZ from June 1840 6) In 1841 NZ became a Colony separate from NSW SO - I agree with Bob - an important first question is - When did he die? AND - I agree with Christine - a second question would be where was his property situated? Good luck Regards Stephen NZ //// On Friday, September 12, 2014 10:53 PM, Bob Poole via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi Christine and Ainslie What date did he die? Many Tasmanian wills are online. There is a will in the Hobart Archives for a William STROUD who died in Launceston 15 April 1909. He had daughters, Sarah Emma and Susannah Amelia. Have you checked the one you refer to? There is only one other William STROUD mentioned in the Archives and he was William John Davenport STROUD who died in 1980. http://stors.tas.gov.au/907786 Cheers Bob -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [nz] Just curious!! CrossTasman connections I don't really know the answer but I have seen several wills where people owned property etc. in more than one jurisdiction and/or where the beneficiaries lived in a different country. I guess the only way to make sure is to obtain a copy. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- Subject: [nz] Just curious!! CrossTasman connections Hi folks, It's been a while since I posted to the NZ genealogy list but I have discovered some online family documents (from the Tasmanian Library) which have intrigued me. Why would my late great grandfather's Will be held in the Tasmanian archives? William and Sarah Stroud migrated to New Zealand and settled in Invercargill in the early 1800s but William's last Will and Testament is showing up in the Hobart Museum archives. Was this because it was simpler to have archival material from the bottom of NZ sent to Tasmania than have them sent to Wellington (NZ) ? I live in Adelaide (SthAustralia) and have been planning a trip to Tasmania where my father's family settled in the early 1830s so I had already planned a stay in Hobart to check the archives for the Cato and the Brown family.. Now it seems I'll have to extend the period I'll be there to follow up on the Stroud connection as well! Cheers Ainslie -in sunny but chilly - Adelaide. Sth Australia.

Hi Les , Ella Maude Fox seems to have dropped her middle name from the time she came to Christchurch with husband Henry Fox, according to NZ electoral rolls . However the Christchurch Cemeteries database has her recorded as Ella Maude Fox. Cheers , Ray On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Les Fox via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi all. > > Am looking for my grandparents arrival in NZ, about 1905 according to their > death printouts. > > 1st is Henry Fox, formerly of England. It is possible he had a stay in > South > Africa along the way, purely conjecture on my part. He was in the Boer War > as far as I know. He would have been about 27 upon arrival. I found one > record of this name and age range departing for SA from England, 1903, but > no further details as yet. > > Secondly, my grandmother, Ella Watts (if she wasn't Mrs Fox by then)., > formerly of New Norfolk, Tasmania. She would have been 21 then. > > > > There are almost no details available, as Henry disowned his family in > England and never spoke of them. I have traced a fair degree of info on my > grandmother in Tasmania, but have no details of the whereabouts of the > family that stayed behind there. > > > > I assume they would have disembarked at Wanganui, as the first details I > pick up are from the electoral rolls there. They later moved to ChCh. > > > > Finding it difficult to get any info without everyone wanting money first. > I > don't mind paying for the info, but I want to know if the info is somewhat > relevant first. > > > > Any guidance welcome... > > > > Les > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks to those who replied. Penne, there were some links in your message, but they didn't work for me. What is that Axbridge link? My anti-virus didn't like that one. I would like to follow that one up. Tried to reply to you, but my note was rejected as spam. Les

I have sent the death notice to Julie. Heather Tauranga -----Original Message----- From: Julie Thorne via Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:22 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Death Notice help please? I may have sent this to the wrong place, so I am trying again. Could I possibly ask where I could access this Death Notice or could someone send me a copy of the wording in full. Kenneth Michael KEENAN of Auckland. Died 26th February 2014 Published in The New Zealand Herald on Feb. 3, 2014 Thank you so much in advance Julie The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This may be coals to Newcastle kind of stuff, because I don't always read all the subjects and topics of this list ~ but if anyone else has been *let down* in communications in regards to the Commemorative ceremonies this weekend (Saturday 13th) for NZ's second largest mining disaster, please get in touch ~ to my personal email, and I'll forward the scant details I know about! Julie M. Skellern New Zealand jools@maxnet.co.nz

I may have sent this to the wrong place, so I am trying again. Could I possibly ask where I could access this Death Notice or could someone send me a copy of the wording in full. Kenneth Michael KEENAN of Auckland. Died 26th February 2014 Published in The New Zealand Herald on Feb. 3, 2014 Thank you so much in advance Julie

Hi all. Am looking for my grandparents arrival in NZ, about 1905 according to their death printouts. 1st is Henry Fox, formerly of England. It is possible he had a stay in South Africa along the way, purely conjecture on my part. He was in the Boer War as far as I know. He would have been about 27 upon arrival. I found one record of this name and age range departing for SA from England, 1903, but no further details as yet. Secondly, my grandmother, Ella Watts (if she wasn't Mrs Fox by then)., formerly of New Norfolk, Tasmania. She would have been 21 then. There are almost no details available, as Henry disowned his family in England and never spoke of them. I have traced a fair degree of info on my grandmother in Tasmania, but have no details of the whereabouts of the family that stayed behind there. I assume they would have disembarked at Wanganui, as the first details I pick up are from the electoral rolls there. They later moved to ChCh. Finding it difficult to get any info without everyone wanting money first. I don't mind paying for the info, but I want to know if the info is somewhat relevant first. Any guidance welcome... Les

NS could be not stated. -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

Hi Helen In the 1981 entry - maybe ihs is for the Intellectually Handicapped Society - maybe he worked in a Sheltered Workshop. Ailsa DODGE Living in the Past Lane! ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Carter via To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:48 PM Subject: [nz] occupation query On the 1978 electoral roll I find a man living with his parents and occupation as NS in 1981 he is still living with his parents and occupation is ihs worker He died 1996 aged 55 ? what his occupation was Helen The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think Bob's right - you get the same abbreviation on BDM's as well. Jan --- Original Message --- From: "Bob Poole via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Sent: September 8, 2014 9:55 PM To: "Helen Carter" <helen.carter28@yahoo.com> Cc: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] occupation query perhaps the NS is "not stated"? Bob Sent from my iPad > On 8 Sep 2014, at 7:18 pm, Helen Carter via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > On the 1978 electoral roll I find a man living with his parents and occupation as NS > in 1981 he is still living with his parents and occupation is ihs worker > He died 1996 aged 55 > ? what his occupation was > Helen > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

perhaps the NS is "not stated"? Bob Sent from my iPad > On 8 Sep 2014, at 7:18 pm, Helen Carter via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > On the 1978 electoral roll I find a man living with his parents and occupation as NS > in 1981 he is still living with his parents and occupation is ihs worker > He died 1996 aged 55 > ? what his occupation was > Helen > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

.........and on the NZ Electoral Rolls.......... Regards Stephen //// On Tuesday, 9 September 2014 12:45 AM, Jan Moon via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: I think Bob's right - you get the same abbreviation on BDM's as well. Jan --- Original Message --- From: "Bob Poole via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [nz] occupation query perhaps the NS is "not stated"? Bob > On 8 Sep 2014, at 7:18 pm, Helen Carter via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > On the 1978 electoral roll I find a man living with his parents and occupation as NS > in 1981 he is still living with his parents and occupation is ihs worker > He died 1996 aged 55 > ? what his occupation was > Helen

Try bridgeman. A person employed by the railways who built and repaired bridges. They were a group of people who work was related to bridge work know as" bridge gangs" Regards Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Cathy Dowie via Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:56 AM To: rayhayes@bigpond.net.au Cc: NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] occupation May be to do with John Brogden and Sons who came out to New Zealand to complete railway line. In 1872 the Company were given six rail contracts as follows:[54] Auckland and Mercer: completed 1875[55] Wellington and Hutt: reached Lower Hutt in 1874[55] Napier and Paki Paki Picton and Blenheim: completed 1875[56] Dunedin and Clutha: part opened 1 July 1874, completed 1 Sep 1875[57] Invercargill and Mataura: part opened 12 February 1874, completed 30 Aug 1875[ Workers were known a Brogden men. Regards Cathy On 07/09/2014, at 11:05 PM, Ray Hayes via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > At a guess - bridge man ? > > On 7/09/2014 8:15 PM, Jenny via wrote: >> New Zealand Railways brgmn what does this stand for it is on electoral >> roll under occupation thanks >> >> >> Cheers Jenny >> I DON'T do Mornings!!!!! >> Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ >> Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8166 - Release Date: 09/06/14 >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone, I had many very helpful responses to my query. Thank you all. Combining your input with what I already knew my conclusions are as below. Samuel Reid Humphries, born on born on 1 June 1903, was the illegitimate son of Samuel Reid and Margaret Humphries, nee Fishwick, and adopted out, officially or unofficially, to Samuel's parents, who were registered as his parents. Samuel and Margaret had four more children. From school records and family information, they lived happily as husband and wife, were known and voted as Mr and Mrs Reid, brought all five up, plus an earlier Humphries daughter of Margaret's, as Reids. Samuel and Margaret married over 20 years later in 1929 to legitimise a daughter before her marriage, and registered or reregistered the younger four on the same day. One remaining "mystery" is why they did not register/reregister their eldest son at the same time. Perhaps because he had been falsely registered as the legitimate son of Samuel's parents? Perhaps because he had not been registered? The first boy for some reason needed to be registered in 1972. As the pension age was then 60, and he was living in NZ, it is a puzzle as to why it was not done when he turned 60 in 1963. There is another mystery as Samuel and Margaret's 1 June 1903 child, registered in 1972 as Samuel Reid Humphries Reid, was known at school, on his marriage certificate, and by the family as Malcolm Mayo Reid .His younger brother, born 20 August 1904, was called Selwyn Samuel Reid. Perhaps it was confusing to have two youngsters less than 15 months different in age, called Samuel and Selwyn Samuel in the one household. Perhaps the grandparents looked after him for some time, but the dramatic change in name puzzles me. Regards, Graham Ogilvie

This was 1981 electoral roll so probably not ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Dowie To: rayhayes@bigpond.net.au Cc: Jenny ; NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 7:56 Subject: Re: [nz] occupation May be to do with John Brogden and Sons who came out to New Zealand to complete railway line. In 1872 the Company were given six rail contracts as follows:[54] a.. Auckland and Mercer: completed 1875[55] b.. Wellington and Hutt: reached Lower Hutt in 1874[55] c.. Napier and Paki Paki d.. Picton and Blenheim: completed 1875[56] e.. Dunedin and Clutha: part opened 1 July 1874, completed 1 Sep 1875[57] f.. Invercargill and Mataura: part opened 12 February 1874, completed 30 Aug 1875[ Workers were known a Brogden men. Regards Cathy On 07/09/2014, at 11:05 PM, Ray Hayes via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: At a guess - bridge man ? On 7/09/2014 8:15 PM, Jenny via wrote: New Zealand Railways brgmn what does this stand for it is on electoral roll under occupation thanks Cheers Jenny I DON'T do Mornings!!!!! Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8166 - Release Date: 09/06/14 The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8166 - Release Date: 09/06/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8170 - Release Date: 09/07/14

May be to do with John Brogden and Sons who came out to New Zealand to complete railway line. In 1872 the Company were given six rail contracts as follows:[54] Auckland and Mercer: completed 1875[55] Wellington and Hutt: reached Lower Hutt in 1874[55] Napier and Paki Paki Picton and Blenheim: completed 1875[56] Dunedin and Clutha: part opened 1 July 1874, completed 1 Sep 1875[57] Invercargill and Mataura: part opened 12 February 1874, completed 30 Aug 1875[ Workers were known a Brogden men. Regards Cathy On 07/09/2014, at 11:05 PM, Ray Hayes via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > At a guess - bridge man ? > > On 7/09/2014 8:15 PM, Jenny via wrote: >> New Zealand Railways brgmn what does this stand for it is on electoral roll under occupation thanks >> >> >> Cheers Jenny >> I DON'T do Mornings!!!!! >> Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ >> Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8166 - Release Date: 09/06/14 >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On the 1978 electoral roll I find a man living with his parents and occupation as NS in 1981 he is still living with his parents and occupation is ihs worker He died 1996 aged 55 ? what his occupation was Helen

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19410531.2.103&srpos=17&e=-------10--11----2bridge+man-- On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Ray Hayes via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > At a guess - bridge man ? > > On 7/09/2014 8:15 PM, Jenny via wrote: > > New Zealand Railways brgmn what does this stand for it is on electoral > roll under occupation thanks > > > > > > Cheers Jenny > > I DON'T do Mornings!!!!! > > Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ > > Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8166 - Release Date: 09/06/14 > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At a guess - bridge man ? On 7/09/2014 8:15 PM, Jenny via wrote: > New Zealand Railways brgmn what does this stand for it is on electoral roll under occupation thanks > > > Cheers Jenny > I DON'T do Mornings!!!!! > Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ > Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8166 - Release Date: 09/06/14 > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >