Very sorry to learn off his passing, he has assisted me quite a bit over the years. my condolences to his family. Its sad, but nice to learn about his passing, not just him, but any member of this website, as we can wonder why we don't hear from someone, like this week, I learnt of the passing some months back of one of the John King Family (one of the First Missionary to NZ in 1814) I wondered several times, why couldn't I get through on her phone number. Then emailed the Retirement Home to be advised Pamela had died some months back. I will never forget her kindness, she treated me to 10 days up at Paihia and she showed me all the historical sites up there to do with the King family, all because I had found Pte. Thomas William Spence King's headstone under the trees at Featherston, now up at Waimate North Churchyard, restored in Masterton, which I was asked for their assistance and then send it up to Kamo for her.. Then on the anniversary of Thomas/s death 10th Sept. 1916, we had a Blessing of the old headstone up at Waimate North, it had his brothers details on it as well, who had died overseas in WW1. I know that Pamela was interested in the Hansen Reunion in 2015, she even suggested I attend on her behalf.. I often wonder with some names, are they still with us or passed on as we never hear of them again.. Adele

Hi List Thank you to Sue for sending the death notice. Heather Tauranga -----Original Message----- From: Heather McLean via Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:42 PM To: New-Zealand-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] The Press death notice Hi List Can someone please help with a death notice for Hugh Ernest CHURCHILL died 10 July 2014 in The Press 12 July 2014 Many thanks Heather Tauranga The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you are looking for any museum, and or Historical Society, check out TE PAPA Museum on line please. (Te Papa in Wellington) worth checking out! Adele Clareville.

I guess it means that you still have to be careful with assigning verity to a transcription that has been through a number of transcribers, and therefore the likelihood of more mistakes, before it gets to you. Bryan Chch

Hi Lori I cannot comment on the records that the Department of Internal Affairs holds but as a professional genealogist and past NZSG Councillor I shall share some thoughts on the Cemetery Records. First of all, let me describe how some of the items you are looking at come about...................... A] NZSG Cemetery Fiche The details here come from transcriptions carried out by a small band of dedicated Dunedin genealogists back in the 1980s I believe. To understand the difficulties in transcribing cemetery headstones one needs to try it sometime....it is only then that you understand the problems in what you are trying to record and the rules used in recording The weather plays havoc with headstones and the words written thereon. B] The Dunedin City Council (DCC) Website The details here come from the original burial records which are housed at the DCC. Once again a transcription is involved which may prove difficult if the handwriting is faint or hard to read. The main point in all this, so far, is that the transcriber who was working on the Roman Catholic portion of the Southern Cemetery came across a name plate lying on the ground loose. On it was written HOGAN and it was found near a HOGAN burial plot BUT the transcriber had the sense to look at the reverse side and it was here that the details about Annetta were to be found and dutifully recorded. This begs the question - what is going on? One answer is that the stonemason took a blank name plate and inscribed Annetta's details. This name plate would require a concrete surround to be erected on the grave site so that the name plate could be attached. Maybe, at this point, somebody realized that they couldn't afford the cost of all this and so the stonemason turned the plate over and reused it for HOGAN In summary - you would not have any detail of Annetta on the NZSG headstone fiche had it not been for a dedicated transcriber. As for the age of 25 on the DCC website - that could be what the original burial record states or it could be difficult / bad transcribing Don't know whether this helps or not :) Bob M On 25/09/2014 8:08 a.m., Lori Adkins via wrote: > This has been puzzling me for weeks and was wondering if this is normal as I have never come across this before. I have found 2 differences in her death, well three if you count her age. > > > > #1 Her surname....On the NZSG Cemetery fiche, death year 1881 record # 387. Her name is listed as Annetta GORDON this is a Memorial Inscription (aged 35). Same fiche same year same record # 387 her name is listed as Annetta DAVIDSON Memorial Inscription (age 35). > > NZSG Cemetery fiche, death year 1881 burial record # 1183 her name is listed as Annetta DAVIDSON (but age is now 25) > > Southern cemetery have her listed as Annetta DAVIDSON age 25. Her real age when she died was 41. > > > > No record at NZ bdm of her. The NZ bdm did cross reference the burial fiche number and the scanned copy of the original document and have her listed as Annetta Davidson KENSINGTON. She was never married to a Kensington but was living in Kensington, Dunedin when she died. Is this normal? > > > > #2 on the memorial inscription for Annetta GORDON record # 387 RC Vol 1. S08.21. Southern cemetery reads... "At the plot there is a small white plaque with HOGAN on it. This plaque has an inscription on the reverse ( possibly stone reused by mason ?) The inscription reads "Annetta GORDON (nee) Davidson died 19 May 1881 35 years". This stone now sits at the HOGAN and Annetta (who is in a different part of the cemetery) has no headstone. Her death certificate also states she died 5 May 1881 and not 19 May. She died of food poisoning and states living issue...not known when she had 4 sons the youngest was 5yrs old. They were sent to the industrial school when she died. > > I just find rather bazaar. Any thoughts? Has anyone else ever come across this sort of thing before. > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List Can someone please help with a death notice for Hugh Ernest CHURCHILL died 10 July 2014 in The Press 12 July 2014 Many thanks Heather Tauranga

Hi Listers Avis Winifred Harber married Chator (1951) then Lancaster c1961 finally Renner. I would be interested in finding her sons - believe there were two and any other family members probably in the Wellington area, I have had an inquiry from England and Canada as to this family's whereabouts. (which is also my family) many thanks for information. Shirley

Hi fellow listers could someone please look up a death notice for Avis Winifred Renner 30 April 2010 Wellington newspapers. would also be interested in her on someone else tree! many thanks Shirley sorry if you are getting duplicate messages but I have not seen any appear on the NZ list. thanks

Hi Lori These type of inconsistencies are not rare when doing Family History research. The death date is more likely to be 5 May 1881 as the Otago Witness of 9 May 1881 has Annetta DAVIDSON dying "in the past week". There was an Annetta GORDON married Alfred WENTWORTH (listed as KENTWORTH on BMD) at Dunedin in 1868, and an Annetta HARRIS married Thomas DAVIDSON in 1869 (BMD) place unknown. So there were 2 Annetta DAVIDSON'S, unless you have mixed up the 2 Annetta's? The "Kensington" would have almost certainly been a transcription error on BDM. Cheers Bob -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lori Adkins via Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 6:08 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Why does my ancestor have 2 different surnames at death??? This has been puzzling me for weeks and was wondering if this is normal as I have never come across this before. I have found 2 differences in her death, well three if you count her age. #1 Her surname....On the NZSG Cemetery fiche, death year 1881 record # 387. Her name is listed as Annetta GORDON this is a Memorial Inscription (aged 35). Same fiche same year same record # 387 her name is listed as Annetta DAVIDSON Memorial Inscription (age 35). NZSG Cemetery fiche, death year 1881 burial record # 1183 her name is listed as Annetta DAVIDSON (but age is now 25) Southern cemetery have her listed as Annetta DAVIDSON age 25. Her real age when she died was 41. No record at NZ bdm of her. The NZ bdm did cross reference the burial fiche number and the scanned copy of the original document and have her listed as Annetta Davidson KENSINGTON. She was never married to a Kensington but was living in Kensington, Dunedin when she died. Is this normal? #2 on the memorial inscription for Annetta GORDON record # 387 RC Vol 1. S08.21. Southern cemetery reads... "At the plot there is a small white plaque with HOGAN on it. This plaque has an inscription on the reverse ( possibly stone reused by mason ?) The inscription reads "Annetta GORDON (nee) Davidson died 19 May 1881 35 years". This stone now sits at the HOGAN and Annetta (who is in a different part of the cemetery) has no headstone. Her death certificate also states she died 5 May 1881 and not 19 May. She died of food poisoning and states living issue...not known when she had 4 sons the youngest was 5yrs old. They were sent to the industrial school when she died. I just find rather bazaar. Any thoughts? Has anyone else ever come across this sort of thing before. The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, Can anyone tell me who administers the Upper Wairau Cemetery, and also their possible email address, for contact. TIA Ron

I am saddened to hear of the passing of Graeme - he did so much hard work as a genealogist. He shared all he found with everyone freely. I pray that his family and friends are comforted in this time of such sorrow but are heartened to know that his genealogy family are too mourning his death. Please be advised though that some of the information on his website is incorrect - at least in my family line. Angela Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 20:31:13 +1200 From: Helen Jennings <kayj269@gmail.com> Subject: [nz] Re the passing of GRAEME ADAMS To: NZ ROOTSWEB mail list <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAMBnS3i6pH4iw0_c=Un15+n1OZ5-T1SEHsy0hKhSw39q1YZqEg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Today I received the sad news of the death of Graeme Adams from his daughter who lived in Australia & was a hard working genealogist & a wonderful kind person who help me over many years. He had a web site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kiwiadams My deepest sympathy to all his family Helen

Hi Ron Marlborough District Council (location: Renwick, Marlborough). If you google 'Marlborough District Council' there is all the info you need for contacting them. Sandra -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ravenstone via Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2014 7:35 a.m. To: List - NZ Messages Subject: [nz] Upper Wairau Cemetery Hi List, Can anyone tell me who administers the Upper Wairau Cemetery, and also their possible email address, for contact. TIA Ron The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning listers, I have received another letter back from Graeme's daughter Rebecca below So the e-mail address if you would like to send a message to his family is: gnadams@gmail.com Helen Hi Helen, Thank you for your lovely email. Dad fought hard right until the end to stay with us and we are so sad to have lost such a great man. It would be lovely if you could share the news of Dad's passing for us. He was incredibly passionate about Geneology and ensuring we and others new our roots. I had wondered how to let his geneology friends and contacts know as I knew how important you all were to him. Dad's email will be active for a while so if anyone would like to send Mum (and I guess Dad :-)) a message they can send it to his address. Once again thank you for your email. Rebecca > Hi Helen, > > Thanks for letting us all know. I had tried to email him a number of times > over the past year as he had our family down as a connection but hadnt been > able to contact him to find out just how we were linked up, but I now know > why by the comments he made on his website.. > Thanks also for his website link as I can now trawl through it to see if I > can see how he has linked us up. > Please give my condolences to his family next time you have contact with > them. > > Regards, Graeme Ardern. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Jennings via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> > To: "NZ ROOTSWEB mail list" <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:31 PM > Subject: [nz] Re the passing of GRAEME ADAMS > > >> Today I received the sad news of the death of Graeme Adams from his >> daughter who lived in Australia & was a hard working genealogist & a >> wonderful kind person who help me over many years. >> He had a web site >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kiwiadams >> >> My deepest sympathy to all his family >> Helen >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Helen, Thanks for letting us all know. I had tried to email him a number of times over the past year as he had our family down as a connection but hadnt been able to contact him to find out just how we were linked up, but I now know why by the comments he made on his website.. Thanks also for his website link as I can now trawl through it to see if I can see how he has linked us up. Please give my condolences to his family next time you have contact with them. Regards, Graeme Ardern. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Jennings via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: "NZ ROOTSWEB mail list" <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:31 PM Subject: [nz] Re the passing of GRAEME ADAMS > Today I received the sad news of the death of Graeme Adams from his > daughter who lived in Australia & was a hard working genealogist & a > wonderful kind person who help me over many years. > He had a web site > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kiwiadams > > My deepest sympathy to all his family > Helen > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4025/8265 - Release Date: 09/23/14 > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4025/8265 - Release Date: 09/23/14

Hello Lori Whilst I can't throw much light on Annetta's life, I can reinforce the suggestion made by Bob that this piece of marble had been reused. I think you need to consider the possibility that it was rejected because of inaccuracy, although apparently not replaced with a better version. I am reminded of a similar piece of marble we found while transcribing. The burial locator revealed it belonged in a cemetery 30 miles away, and we were about to take it back "home" when we discovered a second inscription on the back, relating to a burial quite close to the site of discovery. It turned out that it had been rejected twice as new stones were ordered when the second spouse died in each family. Presumably it was discarded as rubbish until some Samaritan found it and returned it to the cemetery. Best wishes for your search. Mary ________________________________ Lori Adkins <lacodak@msn.com> asked "Why does my ancestor have 2 different surnames at death???" This has been puzzling me for weeks and was wondering if this is normal as I have never come across this before. I have found 2 differences in her death, well three if you count her age. #1 Her surname....On the NZSG Cemetery fiche, death year 1881 record # 387. Her name is listed as Annetta GORDON this is a Memorial Inscription (aged 35). Same fiche same year same record # 387 her name is listed as Annetta DAVIDSON Memorial Inscription (age 35). NZSG Cemetery fiche, death year 1881 burial record # 1183 her name is listed as Annetta DAVIDSON (but age is now 25) Southern cemetery have her listed as Annetta DAVIDSON age 25. Her real age when she died was 41. No record at NZ bdm of her. The NZ bdm did cross reference the burial fiche number and the scanned copy of the original document and have her listed as Annetta Davidson KENSINGTON. She was never married to a Kensington but was living in Kensington, Dunedin when she died. Is this normal? #2 on the memorial inscription for Annetta GORDON record # 387 RC Vol 1. S08.21. Southern cemetery reads... "At the plot there is a small white plaque with HOGAN on it. This plaque has an inscription on the reverse ( possibly stone reused by mason ?) The inscription reads "Annetta GORDON (nee) Davidson died 19 May 1881 35 years". This stone now sits at the HOGAN and Annetta (who is in a different part of the cemetery) has no headstone. Her death certificate also states she died 5 May 1881 and not 19 May. She died of food poisoning and states living issue...not known when she had 4 sons the youngest was 5yrs old. They were sent to the industrial school when she died. I just find rather bazaar. Any thoughts? Has anyone else ever come across this sort of thing before.

Thanks Helen for letting us know - yes a wonderful helpful person from my tree. Regards Sue On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Helen Jennings via < new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Today I received the sad news of the death of Graeme Adams from his > daughter who lived in Australia & was a hard working genealogist & a > wonderful kind person who help me over many years. > He had a web site > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kiwiadams > > My deepest sympathy to all his family > Helen > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for letting us all know. I did wonder why my email to Graeme was returned as his email address on his website does not work anymore Eileen On 24/09/2014 8:31 PM, "Helen Jennings via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Today I received the sad news of the death of Graeme Adams from his > daughter who lived in Australia & was a hard working genealogist & a > wonderful kind person who help me over many years. > He had a web site > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kiwiadams > > My deepest sympathy to all his family > Helen > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Today I received the sad news of the death of Graeme Adams from his daughter who lived in Australia & was a hard working genealogist & a wonderful kind person who help me over many years. He had a web site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kiwiadams My deepest sympathy to all his family Helen

Hi Listers SPringston just outside Christchurch near Rolleston what local history/museum would cover that area please?? cheers Patsy

This has been puzzling me for weeks and was wondering if this is normal as I have never come across this before. I have found 2 differences in her death, well three if you count her age. #1 Her surname....On the NZSG Cemetery fiche, death year 1881 record # 387. Her name is listed as Annetta GORDON this is a Memorial Inscription (aged 35). Same fiche same year same record # 387 her name is listed as Annetta DAVIDSON Memorial Inscription (age 35). NZSG Cemetery fiche, death year 1881 burial record # 1183 her name is listed as Annetta DAVIDSON (but age is now 25) Southern cemetery have her listed as Annetta DAVIDSON age 25. Her real age when she died was 41. No record at NZ bdm of her. The NZ bdm did cross reference the burial fiche number and the scanned copy of the original document and have her listed as Annetta Davidson KENSINGTON. She was never married to a Kensington but was living in Kensington, Dunedin when she died. Is this normal? #2 on the memorial inscription for Annetta GORDON record # 387 RC Vol 1. S08.21. Southern cemetery reads... "At the plot there is a small white plaque with HOGAN on it. This plaque has an inscription on the reverse ( possibly stone reused by mason ?) The inscription reads "Annetta GORDON (nee) Davidson died 19 May 1881 35 years". This stone now sits at the HOGAN and Annetta (who is in a different part of the cemetery) has no headstone. Her death certificate also states she died 5 May 1881 and not 19 May. She died of food poisoning and states living issue...not known when she had 4 sons the youngest was 5yrs old. They were sent to the industrial school when she died. I just find rather bazaar. Any thoughts? Has anyone else ever come across this sort of thing before.