Hi List Looking for Paul FAHEY ( born in Ireland 1928 ) death on BDM or his burial Can not find him at all. I do have his death notice he died 17 Jan 2009 at the Waitakere Hospital. Wondering if his surname may have a different spelling . Regards Frances

Looks like Andy has got the right lady: NZ BDM 1971/48219 HUNT, Helen Age 87 fits perfectly age wise and death date as when you toggle the dates on the site death date comes up as 16th October 1971. Mabel On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Andy Gardner via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Helen HUNT, nee CLARKE ??? > > On 4/11/2014, at 7:55 AM, Beverley via wrote: > > > Hello All > > I have been photographing the gravestones at All Saints Burwood, and > > with talking to a custodian at the churchyard, there is a broken stone > > with no surname on it. > > can anyone help with this, we would love to know her surname. > > > > In Memory of Helen, wife of Leslie > > born 23 October 1883 - 16 October 1971 > > > > Beverley Evans > > Christchurch NZ > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Helen HUNT, nee CLARKE ??? On 4/11/2014, at 7:55 AM, Beverley via wrote: > Hello All > I have been photographing the gravestones at All Saints Burwood, and > with talking to a custodian at the churchyard, there is a broken stone > with no surname on it. > can anyone help with this, we would love to know her surname. > > In Memory of Helen, wife of Leslie > born 23 October 1883 - 16 October 1971 > > Beverley Evans > Christchurch NZ

Well said Judith. Jeanette I agree that the Royal Charter of 1840 saw NZ gain independence from NSW, but only as a separate Crown Colony. So was this really more important to NZ's development than, say, the 1907 Proclamation by King Edward that saw NZ become a self-governing Dominion within the British Empire? Or more important than the date in 1947 when NZ adopted the Statute of Westminster? Judith On 3/11/2014 8:19 p.m., Gail Riddell via wrote: > Personally, I think both documents are incredibly important - but there is > some dissension around the Treaty - meaning dissension around the latter > interpretation of the original doc written in Maori. Not all accept the 6 > Feb 1840 document. That doc indicates a treaty between the signees and > the then Crown. The latter doc (16 Nov 1840) gives the NATION > independence from the control of NSW. (I am sorry you saw fit to snip it > plus the date as I do not consider it to be extraneous text). > > The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All I have been photographing the gravestones at All Saints Burwood, and with talking to a custodian at the churchyard, there is a broken stone with no surname on it. can anyone help with this, we would love to know her surname. In Memory of Helen, wife of Leslie born 23 October 1883 - 16 October 1971 Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ transcriber of old newspapers. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Looking for anything about this man and his family. I think he was born in Sydney, and was perhaps the son of Francis and Jane Pierce. He married Henrietta McKenzie Gell (b 25 Jun 1891 in Auckland) somewhere in NZ in 1913, and they had the following children: Mary Agnes (Molly) Pierce1911 – 1993 Francis Ernest Henry Pierce1912 – 1969 Irene Mabel Rita (Tottie) Pierce1915 – 1982 Thomas Clifford George (Cliffie) Pierce, Auckland)1918 – 1976 Cecil Albert Clarence (Mac) Pierce1920 – 2002 Rowland Alfred Walter (Roly) Pierce1922 – 1988 Noel Leslie Trevor (Scottie) Pierce1926 – 1993 Mervyn Reginald Alexander Pierce1927 – 1994 Keith Nelson Fraser Pierce1932 – 2010 I can find almost nothing about any of these people. Thomas died 01 Dec 1937 in Waipu, and Henrietta died in 1979 in Waipu. I found a death in Taupo for Francis Ernest Henry Pierce, and he is buried at Taupo Lawn cemetery. I have death dates for the rest and that is all. I’d be very grateful for anything at all about this family Regards Jan Sent from Windows Mail

A member of one of my DNA forums (Ray Critchley) has just posted these two websites to enable you to tell one way or the other whether it is your system and chosen browser or is it the actual website. Keep these SAFE. I bet you will use them over and over! (They were given as an example when another forum member had a problem with www.gedmatch.com) All you need to do is alter the gedmatch.com address to the url name you are seeking to access. Meaning the important part of the url is altered to suit the wanted website... http://downuptime.net/gedmatch.com.html http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/gedmatch.com.html Gail

I agree that the Royal Charter of 1840 saw NZ gain independence from NSW, but only as a separate Crown Colony. So was this really more important to NZ's development than, say, the 1907 Proclamation by King Edward that saw NZ become a self-governing Dominion within the British Empire? Or more important than the date in 1947 when NZ adopted the Statute of Westminster? Judith On 3/11/2014 8:19 p.m., Gail Riddell via wrote: > Personally, I think both documents are incredibly important - but there is some dissension around the Treaty - meaning dissension around the latter interpretation of the original doc written in Maori. Not all accept the 6 Feb 1840 document. That doc indicates a treaty between the signees and the then Crown. The latter doc (16 Nov 1840) gives the NATION independence from the control of NSW. (I am sorry you saw fit to snip it plus the date as I do not consider it to be extraneous text). > >

Sorry, Gail That was an unintentionally error on my part. Garry > Personally, I think both documents are incredibly important - but > there is some dissension around the Treaty - meaning dissension around > the latter interpretation of the original doc written in Maori. Not > all accept the 6 Feb 1840 document. That doc indicates a treaty > between the signees and the then Crown. The latter doc (16 Nov 1840) > gives the NATION independence from the control of NSW. (I am sorry > you saw fit to snip it plus the date as I do not consider it to be > extraneous text). > >> Is this not more important than the Treaty? >> >> >>> This item is copied from the magazine named eLocal and is the >>> November 2014 editorial. I cannot raise the editor to gain his >>> specific permission, but my thanks go to him anyway for even >>> publishing this in the first place. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 10660 (20141103) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

But no, the battalion was not sent home, so the mystery remains. Sent from my iPad > On 3 Nov 2014, at 8:43 pm, Jo Featherston <jofeath@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Judith, > > Oliver Desmond Cruickshank was a Private with the Wellington Infantry Battalion. I guess I should do some research to discover whether in fact the whole battalion might have been considered surplus to requirements at that time. > > Jo > > Sent from my iPad

Hi Judith, Oliver Desmond Cruickshank was a Private with the Wellington Infantry Battalion. I guess I should do some research to discover whether in fact the whole battalion might have been considered surplus to requirements at that time. Jo Sent from my iPad

Thanks Gail - I hadn't realised this happened - nice idea to have an independence day which could be a real celebration rather than Waitangi Day which has turned into such a travesty rather than a celebration for all the people of NZ. Regards Sue On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Garry F Bell via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Is this not more important than the Treaty? > > Garry > > This item is copied from the magazine named eLocal and is the November > 2014 editorial. I cannot raise the editor to gain his specific permission, > but my thanks go to him anyway for even publishing this in the first place. > > > <snip> > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 10660 (20141103) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Personally, I think both documents are incredibly important - but there is some dissension around the Treaty - meaning dissension around the latter interpretation of the original doc written in Maori. Not all accept the 6 Feb 1840 document. That doc indicates a treaty between the signees and the then Crown. The latter doc (16 Nov 1840) gives the NATION independence from the control of NSW. (I am sorry you saw fit to snip it plus the date as I do not consider it to be extraneous text). Gail On 3/11/2014, at 8:01 PM, Garry F Bell via wrote: > Is this not more important than the Treaty? > > Garry >> This item is copied from the magazine named eLocal and is the November 2014 editorial. I cannot raise the editor to gain his specific permission, but my thanks go to him anyway for even publishing this in the first place. >> > <snip> >

Is this not more important than the Treaty? Garry > This item is copied from the magazine named eLocal and is the November 2014 editorial. I cannot raise the editor to gain his specific permission, but my thanks go to him anyway for even publishing this in the first place. > <snip> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 10660 (20141103) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

This item is copied from the magazine named eLocal and is the November 2014 editorial. I cannot raise the editor to gain his specific permission, but my thanks go to him anyway for even publishing this in the first place. "November 16th Our day of thanks for NZ independence The United States have impacted the lives of all humans. The nation made up of immigrants and many social rejects from other countries, has become one of the World's most powerful. And whether we agree or not with the US foreign policeies, many nations usually turn to the US when they are deperate to reinstate their own freedoms. There are aspects of American life that have infused all countries. One of the best US Traditions many of us could apply, is July 4th, Independence Day. The dy when US citizens give thanks. It marks the day the nation became independent of British colonialisation (the Americans have been NZ friends and have had a presence in NZ since before the treaty of 1840). Few people in New Zealand know that a very similar processed occurred in our history. November 16th, 1840 was the day Queen Victoria's Royal Charter gave independent rule to New Zealand. And so on this day of the present month, a few more New Zealanders will sit down to their own thanksgiving dinner. Whether the Government gives us a statutory day off or not, the light of awareness is growing over this date for more kiwis every year. New Zealand is changing rapidly in the 21st century and a day to recognise when the country gained true independence, offers unparalleled opportunity to celebrate the start of a united New Zealand. Without this Royal Charter, New Zealand would still be joined at the hip with New South Wales Australia which was the original Waitangi Treaty partner and we'd be saying 'G'day maaate'… A few months after that charter was signed, the first legislative Council of New Zealand sat - on May 24th, 1841. And so our journey of independence began. For all our successes and failings as a nation, November 16th is the date when we launched our own 'waka', steered by our own decisions. Happy Independence Day! Mykeljon Editor"

What a marvellous and generous project. Will keep my eyes open. Good luck Steve. Murray Mangatangi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: [nz] Family Photo Albums > > Hi all, after doing mine and with my partner doing her family trees to > death > we have reached a point where we can't go further back with our trees, > unless something new comes up on the web , so I've taken it on my self to > do > the next best thing ..... rescue family photo albums and return them back > to > family members who may be interested in them > I've done one so far and am about to return it to a family member who > would > love it , I've just brought two more from oz but would like to see if i > can > keep it in NZ > so what i am asking for ppl to keep a look out for Albums and let me know > so i can hopefully buy them , research them and return them to Families > who > would love to see them but didn't know they even existed > > so any help would be gr8 > > > Kind regards > > Steve Fraser > Timaru > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gail, Like Suzanne says, that's our history lesson for the day. I can't remember ever being taught that fact. Waitangi Day was always the important anniversary. Maybe we should have the Government look at changing the focus. Have both but a little change in importance after all Independence from New South Wales was a major step in our history. I don't think NSW would have liked being a part of N Z somehow !! I don't want to reduce the importance of one against the other but for N Z to become a totally Independent Nation must be the stand out factor in our history and that long ago. Just my tuppence worth. Regards, Terry. On 3 November 2014 14:20, Gail Riddell via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This item is copied from the magazine named eLocal and is the November > 2014 editorial. I cannot raise the editor to gain his specific permission, > but my thanks go to him anyway for even publishing this in the first place. > > "November 16th > Our day of thanks for NZ independence > The United States have impacted the lives of all humans. The nation made > up of immigrants and many social rejects from other countries, has become > one of the World's most powerful. And whether we agree or not with the US > foreign policeies, many nations usually turn to the US when they are > deperate to reinstate their own freedoms. There are aspects of American > life that have infused all countries. One of the best US Traditions many > of us could apply, is July 4th, Independence Day. The dy when US citizens > give thanks. It marks the day the nation became independent of British > colonialisation (the Americans have been NZ friends and have had a presence > in NZ since before the treaty of 1840). Few people in New Zealand know > that a very similar processed occurred in our history. > November 16th, 1840 was the day Queen Victoria's Royal Charter gave > independent rule to New Zealand. > And so on this day of the present month, a few more New Zealanders will > sit down to their own thanksgiving dinner. Whether the Government gives us > a statutory day off or not, the light of awareness is growing over this > date for more kiwis every year. > New Zealand is changing rapidly in the 21st century and a day to recognise > when the country gained true independence, offers unparalleled opportunity > to celebrate the start of a united New Zealand. Without this Royal > Charter, New Zealand would still be joined at the hip with New South Wales > Australia which was the original Waitangi Treaty partner and we'd be saying > 'G'day maaate'… > A few months after that charter was signed, the first legislative Council > of New Zealand sat - on May 24th, 1841. And so our journey of independence > began. For all our successes and failings as a nation, November 16th is > the date when we launched our own 'waka', steered by our own decisions. > Happy Independence Day! > Mykeljon > Editor" > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you to Gail for the history lesson!! I had no idea this was how NZ became Independent. I don’t remember being told this at school....or maybe I was asleep. Cheers Suzanne ex pat in Brisbane --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Jo - do you know what rank / role he was assigned in this first brief service? Judith On 1/11/2014 5:59 p.m., Jo Featherston via wrote: > My grandfather Oliver Desmond Cruickshank enlist with the NZ Expeditionary Force in August 1914 and departed to Egypt with the first ships sent 100 years ago in October. He arrived there on 3 January 1915 and was discharged on 18 January after only 15 days. He returned to NZ, and the reason given on his Certificate of Discharge was that 'his services were no longer required'. Oliver enlisted again in 1916 and served a further 3 years before returning again safely -one of the lucky ones! I am just wondering if anyone else has discovered a relative with this kind of service history, or has any idea as to why Oliver's services would have no longer been required. Did the NZ generals decide they had sent too many troops at that stage or what? There's no suggestion of any misconduct on Oliver's file at that point. > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Haven't really been following this thread of discussion, but talk about a book and wondering where to find it caught my eye... The National Library of New Zealand holds a catalogue of all/most libraries around the country. Very handy when you're looking for this sort of information. This link will take you to a list of the libraries around the country who hold the book "The Catlins River Wisp Run" by Isobel C. Dreaver: http://nzlc.natlib.govt.nz/vwebv/holdingsInfo?bibId=4513918 It might be that a library near you holds the book, or that you can otherwise order it via interloan at your local library. Ask at your library if you want to get it via interloan - at my local community-owned library you have to fill in a form to request the book, and if it is going to come from outside of our district there will be a fee which is payable when the book is collected; the fee varies depending on whether the loaning library charges a fee (some do, some don't; our district's public library staff who make the request on behalf of the community library will source from a non-charging library if possible) and there are also postage costs. It might be different at your library. Of course, you Gail might not be interested in this at all, but I hope the information is useful to others for finding information about any book found in New Zealand. I started by going to the National Library home page (http://natlib.govt.nz/) and putting the book title into the search box near the top of the page. Then in the search results I clicked on the title of the book (there were other results that were of no interest, just ignore those), and then in the next page I clicked on "This item in New Zealand libraries", and was taken to the page linked above. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy ***Please reply to the list. Private replies will be ignored.*** Gail Riddell via said the following on 31/10/2014 20:32: > Thank you very much Alister. > > Maybe someone else will also come forward - who possibly has the book? > > And I admit feel much better knowing why Elle may have even selected me as someone to who to write. > Sadly her email was deficient in these important matters and I was very tempted to merely delete same as SPAM!. > > Gail. > > On 31/10/2014, at 4:33 PM, Alisterg wrote: > >> Hello, >> The book published in 1994 called The Catlins River Wisp Run. >> A few copies have come up from time to time forsale on Trademe. >> Isobel Christina Dreaver appears to be aged 82 years, a keen gardener with mention on a site about Daffodils >> >> I would suggest that Isabelle Green chose you Gail, because you were enquirying about Charles Nicholson back in 2007 with regard to the Catlins area >> >> Isobel grew up in Dunedin, and her maiden name was Hall. >> There is an enquiry on Gen Forum from 2004 on the Kelliher name from an Isobel Dreaver with an email address of idreaver@ihug.co.nz , this may, or may not be current >> >> There is a Rob Dreaver who lives in Invercargill, do not know if he is related or not. >> >> Regards >> Alister Gould >> Invercargill