Hi Folks, The 'Six o'clock Swill' - as it was known, was especially bad on a Friday evening when workers (blue collar and office) would saddle up to the bar at their favourite pub after work and drink until closing time at 6pm. Then it was a rush from the bar, out around the corner to the bottle department to buy supplies to take off home for the weekend's social events. I worked in Molesworth Street, Wellington and regularly caught up with friends who worked in other branches of the BNSW at a hotel not too far from the Railway Station. Just before the six o'clock closing there'd be a mad rush to the bottle department and taxis would be lined up along the kerbside to take their clients home. Cheers Ainslie.

Mable thanks for that, my wording was not clear I meant I can't find any thing on her death or burial, I have lots on family etc, I thought death notice might tell me where she died and where she is buried Cheers Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: Mabel Harvey To: Jenny Cc: New Zealand list Sent: Sunday, 16 November 2014 22:33 Subject: Re: [nz] News paper lookup please Hi Jenny, Had a quick google and it looks like someone else has been having a look at this lady as well and has quite a bit of infor on her her husband children and parents. There is alot of rererencing to primary source material and alot of detailed info so would be lots of great infor for you and a contact email at the bottom of the page: http://winsomegriffin.com/Barnard/NellieJaneNorrie.html good luck mabel On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jenny via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: for Wynne Nance Bunckenburg died 28 Mar 1983 Wellington I can't find anything for her except listing in NZSG Cd, about newspaper notice, Cheers Jenny I DON"T do mornings!!!! Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4213/8578 - Release Date: 11/15/14 The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4213/8583 - Release Date: 11/16/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4213/8583 - Release Date: 11/16/14

Hello All I have photographed the gravestones at Burwood All Saints, New Brighton Rd, Christchurch, there are a number that are damaged and some that are almost unreadable. If anyone would like a photo please email me. Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Gravestone.Photos/Burwood.All.Saints.churchyard.html http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ transcriber of old newspapers --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Welcome back ,Adele I presume you are no longer on board ( plane ) Ray On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Adele Pentony-Graham via < new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Anyone waiting for a response from me, just to let you all know, have > been overseas since beginning of October, now back home, safe and > sound! > I am going through hundreds of emails, came off most Rootsweb whilst > going to England.. > have replied to some emails... > > I had 5 weeks rest! > > thanks > > Adele > Clareville Taphophile. > > -- > Adele Pentony-Graham > Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher > Carterton Researcher. > and > Featherston. WW1. Cemetery. > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Beth , Maybe something here about Howard Hall ? Ray http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-NHSJ01_03-t1-body1-d5.html On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:55 PM, aotueka via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello. > > In/around 1930, the Howard Hall in Motueka was opened by Keith > Holyoake. I've had a look at PapersPast but can not find any reference > to this happening. > > Does anyone know anything about this? I don't have an exact date. > > Thanks. > > Beth > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Dave - much appreciated. Beth On 17/11/2014 12:10 a.m., Dave MacKinven wrote: > 9am to 6pm > > > Cheers > > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- From: aotueka via > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:03 AM > To: nEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: [nz] Pub opening hours 1930 > > Hello again. Does anyone know what hours pubs were allowed to be open > during 1925-1935? > > I understand it was 6 p.m. closing, but what time were they allowed to > open . . . ? > > Thanks. > > Beth > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

9am to 6pm Cheers Dave -----Original Message----- From: aotueka via Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:03 AM To: nEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Pub opening hours 1930 Hello again. Does anyone know what hours pubs were allowed to be open during 1925-1935? I understand it was 6 p.m. closing, but what time were they allowed to open . . . ? Thanks. Beth The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again. Does anyone know what hours pubs were allowed to be open during 1925-1935? I understand it was 6 p.m. closing, but what time were they allowed to open . . . ? Thanks. Beth

Hi again Jenny Just found a cremation record for Henry Herbert BUNKENBURG who was cremated in 1983: http://wellington.govt.nz/services/community-and-culture/cemeteries/cemeteries-search/details?id=52251&serviceType=Cremation&previousPage=%2fservices%2fcommunity-and-culture%2fcemeteries%2fcemeteries-search%2fresults%3fserviceType%3dAll%26lastName%3dBunckenburg%26fromDate%3d01%252f01%252f1840%26toDate%3d17%252f11%252f2014%26cemetery%3dAll there is also a record for H H BUNKENBURG on Archway: http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewEntity.do?code=W4599 I also note that the couple are on several electoral roles between1946-72 in Karori, Wellington and then from 78-81 in Ohariu, Wellington. It appears they likely had at least one son as in the later years there is a male with the same last name and the same address on the role and often when this happens it is an adult child still living at home with the parents. Wynne is also on the 1935 and 1938 Electoral roles in Wellington under her maiden name of NORRIE. Good luck Mabel On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Mabel Harvey <mabel.harvey@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jenny, Had a quick google and it looks like someone else has been > having a look at this lady as well and has quite a bit of infor on her her > husband children and parents. There is alot of rererencing to primary > source material and alot of detailed info so would be lots of great infor > for you and a contact email at the bottom of the page: > > http://winsomegriffin.com/Barnard/NellieJaneNorrie.html > > good luck mabel > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jenny via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> for Wynne Nance Bunckenburg died 28 Mar 1983 Wellington I can't find >> anything for her except listing in NZSG Cd, about newspaper notice, Cheers >> Jenny >> I DON"T do mornings!!!! >> Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ >> Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4213/8578 - Release Date: 11/15/14 >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Hi Jenny, Had a quick google and it looks like someone else has been having a look at this lady as well and has quite a bit of infor on her her husband children and parents. There is alot of rererencing to primary source material and alot of detailed info so would be lots of great infor for you and a contact email at the bottom of the page: http://winsomegriffin.com/Barnard/NellieJaneNorrie.html good luck mabel On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jenny via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > for Wynne Nance Bunckenburg died 28 Mar 1983 Wellington I can't find > anything for her except listing in NZSG Cd, about newspaper notice, Cheers > Jenny > I DON"T do mornings!!!! > Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ > Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4213/8578 - Release Date: 11/15/14 > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello. In/around 1930, the Howard Hall in Motueka was opened by Keith Holyoake. I've had a look at PapersPast but can not find any reference to this happening. Does anyone know anything about this? I don't have an exact date. Thanks. Beth

Anyone waiting for a response from me, just to let you all know, have been overseas since beginning of October, now back home, safe and sound! I am going through hundreds of emails, came off most Rootsweb whilst going to England.. have replied to some emails... I had 5 weeks rest! thanks Adele Clareville Taphophile. -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

for Wynne Nance Bunckenburg died 28 Mar 1983 Wellington I can't find anything for her except listing in NZSG Cd, about newspaper notice, Cheers Jenny I DON"T do mornings!!!! Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/jen_in_brisbane/ Family Tree http://minerstree.tribalpages.com/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4213/8578 - Release Date: 11/15/14

I had a couple of off list replies (not sure if that was intentional or not) They said the 6pm last orders was to stop men spending all night in the pub, I can understand the though but why did they need to? Its obvious to most that it matters not when the last orders is set, there will always be the last minute rush for a last one before closing You only have to look at the way they drink into the wee small hours here when they relaxed licensing laws to make a "Continental Cafe culture" that worked didn't it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/11/2014 11:16, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Dave > > Seems odd that they would open during the working day and close at 6pm > > What was the reasoning behind that? > > I am assuming a pub there was the same as a pub in the UK

Hi Nivard Google "[1]6 o'clock swill New Zealand" and you will be enlightened. Cheers Dave [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad At 17/11/2014 1:01:45 am, Nivard Ovington via<'[3]new-zealand@rootsweb.com'> wrote: I had a couple of off list replies (not sure if that was intentional or not) They said the [4]6pm last orders was to stop men spending all night in the pub, I can understand the though but why did they need to? Its obvious to most that it matters not when the last orders is set, there will always be the last minute rush for a last one before closing You only have to look at the way they drink into the wee small hours here when they relaxed licensing laws to make a "Continental Cafe culture" that worked didn't it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/11/2014 11:16, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Dave > > Seems odd that they would open during the working day and close [5]at 6pm > > What was the reasoning behind that? > > I am assuming a pub there was the same as a pub in the UK The List Guidelines [6]http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [7]NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. x-apple-data-detectors://0/ 2. https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS 3. mailto:new-zealand@rootsweb.com 4. x-apple-data-detectors://2/ 5. x-apple-data-detectors://4/ 6. http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ 7. javascript:return

Hi Dave Seems odd that they would open during the working day and close at 6pm What was the reasoning behind that? I am assuming a pub there was the same as a pub in the UK Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/11/2014 11:10, Dave MacKinven via wrote: > 9am to 6pm > > > Cheers > > > Dave

Hi agin , Jan I'll try agin ! NZ MARRIAGES 1946 - Arthur McKENZIE m. Thelma Vera HARPER/ PIERCE Cheerfully , Ray Hi Jan , NZ MARRIAGES 1946 - Thelma Vera PIERCE m. McKenzie HARPER 1949- Mary MacLeod m. Francis Ernest Henry PIERCE Cheers, Ray On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Jan Moon via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Can anyone help with this one - it was in 1946 Folio13901 but don’t know > where. > > > Also after marriage 1949 Folio 03139 Mary MacLeod married ? PIERCE > (Hopefully Francis Ernest Henry) > > > Many thanks > > Regards > > Jan > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

NZ Electoral Rolls : 1938 - Thelma Vera HARPER , spinster , Hotel Stratford , Stratford 1946- Thelma Vera MCKENZIE , married , Paeroa 1949 - Francis Henry Ernest PIERCE, Pinedale , Waikato 1949 - Mary PIERCE , Pinedale , Waikato Happy Days , Ray

Hi Jan , NZ MARRIAGES 1946 - Thelma Vera PIERCE m. McKenzie HARPER 1949- Mary MacLeod m. Francis Ernest Henry PIERCE Cheers, Ray On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Jan Moon via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Can anyone help with this one - it was in 1946 Folio13901 but don’t know > where. > > > Also after marriage 1949 Folio 03139 Mary MacLeod married ? PIERCE > (Hopefully Francis Ernest Henry) > > > Many thanks > > Regards > > Jan > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all listers Just a quick one. When did giving a child a middle name start and when did it become usual? Both my parents born in the first decade of the 20th century had a forename and a middle name. Both my grandfathers [one born Scotland] had the same. Only one of my grandmothers [born Scotland] did and the other did not. Of my great grandparents only two g'g'mothers had more than one forename [one born Ulster, one born Scotland]. Of their siblings it seems to hit or miss. Time scale - g'parents early 1880s. g'g'parents 1842 to 1856