There is information Papers past about these homes. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast LATEST AUCKLAND NEWS. Thames Advertiser, Volume XXIV, Issue 6929, 29 May 1891, Page 2 SALVATION ARMY WORK, The Salvation Army propose to buy a seven roomed house and five aores of land at Otahuhu, to start upon the Prison Gate Home system, The property spoken of is situated near the Tamaki River, Is this the incident? ESCAPEES ON A JIGGER. New Zealand Herald, Volume LV, Issue 16769, 8 February 1918, Page 4 Robyn On 19/11/14 19:05, aotueka via wrote: > Hello there. > > Has anyone heard of, or know anything about, the PRISON GATE HOME in > Auckland? I have relative who escaped from there around 1918ish. > > I am guessing that it was some sort of juvenile detention centre? Any > info would be gratefully received. > > Thanks. Beth > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello there. Has anyone heard of, or know anything about, the PRISON GATE HOME in Auckland? I have relative who escaped from there around 1918ish. I am guessing that it was some sort of juvenile detention centre? Any info would be gratefully received. Thanks. Beth

Margaret MALCOLM and Robert GIBB married in Dunedin 9 Dec 1864. (NZ DIA 1864/6824). I would be most grateful if anyone going to Archives in Wellington could look up the above ITM record please. With thanks, Jenny

Hi Beth & All: Certainly in Archives NZ, Wellington you are welcome to use a camera or smartphone to photograph documents (and no requirement as there was initially to register as a camera user) Yours, John Wilson > FYI . . .I was speaking to the Auckland Archives NZ last week, and the > very lovely lady there said that the Archives current policy at Auckland > at least, is that while photocopies are forbidden, they encourage people > to take photos of the documents with their phones/IPODS etc. > > I assume that it would be the same regardless of which Archives office > you visited . . . ? >

Hi Patsy maybe this lady , who has genealogical interests in Timaru ,may be able to help Joan Carmody jr_carmody@clear.net.nz On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Patsy via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Listers > > looking for a connection with Thomas James and Margaret Carmody from > Pleasant Point/Temuka/Timaru region. > They married in 1953 and went off the radar in 1978. Cannot find a > death or burial for either altho they may of course be still alive. > Does anyone have access to school records from the area that show > Thomas James and Margaret as Parents??? > Any help appreciated > thanks > Patsy > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Patsy , Are You referring to Thomas James CARMODY marrying Margaret May HARTNETT ? Cheers , Ray On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Patsy via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Listers > > looking for a connection with Thomas James and Margaret Carmody from > Pleasant Point/Temuka/Timaru region. > They married in 1953 and went off the radar in 1978. Cannot find a > death or burial for either altho they may of course be still alive. > Does anyone have access to school records from the area that show > Thomas James and Margaret as Parents??? > Any help appreciated > thanks > Patsy > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List, hasn't been a Roll Call for a while, hope you all don't mind haha KIRK and COPLEY families from Maungaturoto area, ended up in Auckland RAYNEL family, all over N.Z DANBY and MORTON families from Thames LAMBERT family from Taranaki CONDER Families from Marton and Wellington LE PROU Family, originally from Akaroa NEWTON family from Christchurch JACKSON-HUGHES family fron Banks Peninsula, Canterbury Cheers Stefan Clive clivesp01@yahoo.co.nz

FYI . . .I was speaking to the Auckland Archives NZ last week, and the very lovely lady there said that the Archives current policy at Auckland at least, is that while photocopies are forbidden, they encourage people to take photos of the documents with their phones/IPODS etc. I assume that it would be the same regardless of which Archives office you visited . . . ? Beth On 18/11/2014 7:11 a.m., Peter Dillon via wrote: > here's my reply last year to another question about land records. > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/new-zealand/2013-10/1382395992 > > The last entry for a piece of land in the old deeds system has a reference > enabling it to be traced in the new transfer system. Searching the old > deeds involves a labyrinthine search through multiple old heavy registers > whereas the new system summarises all transactions on one piece of paper. > > Peter > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Wilson via > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:27 AM > To: truelearner ; NZ Rootsweb > Subject: Re: [nz] Land Documents Searching > > Hi All: > > Re Northland land records from LINZ, presumably in Archives NZ at Auckland. > > >From the Research Guide No 10 for the Wellington Land District, there is an > Index to Primary Deeds by name (surname). The Deeds system was gradually > replaced by the Land Transfer system, but some land still remains in the > older deeds system (presumably not having been sold since 1924, when > traqnsfers had to be done in the Land Transfer system). If you go to > Archives, the staff there will assist. > > Yours, John Wilson > > Subject: [nz] Land Documents Searching > > >> Has anyone done any research on land documents & can provide >> some advise on how to do it? >> I have looked at the NZ Lands & Survey site but got completely lost >> there, then searched Archives. >> I am looking at trying to find the history behind land the family >> owned/had in Wekaweka (Northland). Surname was Nelder. >> I don't know if I can search for the family name or would it be the >> 'area'. >> > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers looking for a connection with Thomas James and Margaret Carmody from Pleasant Point/Temuka/Timaru region. They married in 1953 and went off the radar in 1978. Cannot find a death or burial for either altho they may of course be still alive. Does anyone have access to school records from the area that show Thomas James and Margaret as Parents??? Any help appreciated thanks Patsy

here's my reply last year to another question about land records. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/new-zealand/2013-10/1382395992 The last entry for a piece of land in the old deeds system has a reference enabling it to be traced in the new transfer system. Searching the old deeds involves a labyrinthine search through multiple old heavy registers whereas the new system summarises all transactions on one piece of paper. Peter -----Original Message----- From: John Wilson via Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:27 AM To: truelearner ; NZ Rootsweb Subject: Re: [nz] Land Documents Searching Hi All: Re Northland land records from LINZ, presumably in Archives NZ at Auckland. >From the Research Guide No 10 for the Wellington Land District, there is an Index to Primary Deeds by name (surname). The Deeds system was gradually replaced by the Land Transfer system, but some land still remains in the older deeds system (presumably not having been sold since 1924, when traqnsfers had to be done in the Land Transfer system). If you go to Archives, the staff there will assist. Yours, John Wilson Subject: [nz] Land Documents Searching > Has anyone done any research on land documents & can provide > some advise on how to do it? > I have looked at the NZ Lands & Survey site but got completely lost > there, then searched Archives. > I am looking at trying to find the history behind land the family > owned/had in Wekaweka (Northland). Surname was Nelder. > I don't know if I can search for the family name or would it be the > 'area'. > The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All: Re Northland land records from LINZ, presumably in Archives NZ at Auckland. >From the Research Guide No 10 for the Wellington Land District, there is an Index to Primary Deeds by name (surname). The Deeds system was gradually replaced by the Land Transfer system, but some land still remains in the older deeds system (presumably not having been sold since 1924, when traqnsfers had to be done in the Land Transfer system). If you go to Archives, the staff there will assist. Yours, John Wilson Subject: [nz] Land Documents Searching > Has anyone done any research on land documents & can provide > some advise on how to do it? > I have looked at the NZ Lands & Survey site but got completely lost > there, then searched Archives. > I am looking at trying to find the history behind land the family > owned/had in Wekaweka (Northland). Surname was Nelder. > I don't know if I can search for the family name or would it be the > 'area'. >

Hi Helen Let me know who you want and I will look in the morning. Heather Tauranga -----Original Message----- From: Helen via Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:09 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] NZ Herald death notice 2012 Hi folks Is anyone able to get me a death notice from October 2012 please? TIA Helen The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks Is anyone able to get me a death notice from October 2012 please? TIA Helen

Hoping to learn that there are some descendants on this list for Andy Gregor, he was Policeman in early Greytown, had a bike made especially for him, as he was rather TALL, in todays Times Age on page 7 and its on line this paper, an article about Andy and his wife Elsie, he was a mere two meters tall, I have seen the bike down at New Zealand Police Museum. He is holding a tennis racquet. This bike is on loan to Cobblestones which the new entrance will be officially opened this Saturday, I was so lucky, I came home in time for this event, as had no idea when it was to be, when I left early October.. Other items on display will be butchers cart from Carterton, must be Deller's as seen it in the complex when I used to be a volunteer opening the complex, then a horse-drawn butterfly gig made by Waggs of Masterton... Lets hope the rain keeps away for a good afternoon in Greytown! I can scan the article to anyone if necessary.. -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

Hi All: Re bar opening and closing hours, 6 pm closing came in as a WWI war measure in 1917. After 6 pm, 15 minutes (?) to finish your drink. Bar opening at 9am as someone said. The "Six O'Clock Swill" was chronicled in "Grogs Own Country" (1959, 1967) by Conrad Bollinger. Pre-WWI there was a strong Prohibitionist )Temperance) movement, supported by many woman suffragists like Kate Sheppard. A 1949 referendum kept it at 6 pm, then a 1967 referendum brought in later closing. Initially to 10 pm and (I think) not on Sundays. Later of course bars vould say open much later, at present the Wellington City Council is debating whether city bars should close at 3am or 5am. With Sunday and late opening quite a few chartered clubs (eg workingmans clubs, and RSAs for returned soldiers) have been closing. Even in the old days the West Coast (of the South Island) was noted for having its own unofficial rules! And it was possible to have a drink in the bar before a meal on Sundays. Another WWI rule was "no shouting" or buying a round. A story about a drinker who was challenged carrying a number of handles for the group. He told the policeman they were all for him, and the cop said "I'll wait while you drink them then". Apparently the last one was the hardest! In a 1919 referendum Prohibition was nearly carried, being lost after the overseas soldiers' votes were counted. In the 1900s there was a vote in each electorate, and the tendency in the larger centres for the central city to stay "wet" while the surroundindg suburbs went dry. In Wellington the Tramway Hotel in Adelaide Road was just on the city side of the boundary. Yours, John Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_alcohol_licensing_referendums_1894%E2%80%931987 > Hello again. Does anyone know what hours pubs were allowed to be open > during 1925-1935? > > I understand it was 6 p.m. closing, but what time were they allowed to > open . . . ? >

Has anyone done any research on land documents & can provide some advise on how to do it? I have looked at the NZ Lands & Survey site but got completely lost there, then searched Archives. I am looking at trying to find the history behind land the family owned/had in Wekaweka (Northland). Surname was Nelder. I don't know if I can search for the family name or would it be the 'area'.

PORT OF AUCKLAND. MISCELLANEOUS. Daily Southern Cross, Volume XXI, Issue 2328, 5 January 1865, Page 4 ARRIVAL OF THE SHIP VICTOBY FROM LONDON. The Victory, a too »hip of 1,198 tons, in command of Captain William Gibbons, anchored in the harbour last evening at 11 p m., after a passage of 107 days from the Lutird. TheVietory sails under the well-known flag of Potter, Wilnon, and Co., of Glasgow, Samuel S Driver cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Grace via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: "ROOTSWEB New Zealand" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:56 PM Subject: [nz] Samuel Shaw DRIVER to NZ on Ship Victory >I have been looking into this family > Their 'Papers Past' Obits. have > conflicting dates. > > Husband's obit. of Aug. 1928 > says arrived August 1, 1864, > on the ship Victory. > > Wife's obit. of Feb. 1935 says > Mr. Driver first came from England > (11 years old), > on the ship Victory in 1862 > > It appears Samuel went back to England, > Married and had one Child before the family > of Husband/Wife/Child returned to NZ > in 1879, in the sailing ship Lebu (sic), > with Mr Drivers Mother. > > Can anyone confirm these ships and dates ? > > Thanks > Ian > Auckland NZ > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Is there anyone researching Jabez Chapman and his wife Emma Cunningham. Jabez died on tghe 19 May, 1944 at Auckland aged 92 years and his wife Emma died on the 18 A[ro;. 1936 aged 84 years. Regards, Audrey

I have been looking into this family Their 'Papers Past' Obits. have conflicting dates. Husband's obit. of Aug. 1928 says arrived August 1, 1864, on the ship Victory. Wife's obit. of Feb. 1935 says Mr. Driver first came from England (11 years old), on the ship Victory in 1862 It appears Samuel went back to England, Married and had one Child before the family of Husband/Wife/Child returned to NZ in 1879, in the sailing ship Lebu (sic), with Mr Drivers Mother. Can anyone confirm these ships and dates ? Thanks Ian Auckland NZ

Being a young teen during the 1950/60s and working in Queen st Auckland, I had the ordeal of daily walking past several pubs towards my bus, one in particular had double hung sash windows, where brawny workman usually in singlets in the "Public",no women allowed there in those days" in a very un PC manner whistled and cat called at females, offering all sorts of pleasures. The smell of that beer remains with me still. Not the civilised? drinking of today, beers mugs overflowing onto the floor was common, stockpiling numbers of jugs as the dreaded 6 o'clock loomed. Aptly named the 'six o'clock swill' it influenced my decision in the referendum? vote? sometime in the 1970s for Pubs selling food could extend their hours. Thus the Bistros, counter meals were born. Whether it was good or not ,is a moot point, certainly today there are many other recreational choices for men. Looking at Papers Past drink (mostly beer in those days) as top shelf was beyond most working peoples means, played a huge part of early arrests. From: "aotueka via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: <nEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:03 AM Subject: [nz] Pub opening hours 1930 > Hello again. Does anyone know what hours pubs were allowed to be open > during 1925-1935? > > I understand it was 6 p.m. closing, but what time were they allowed to > open . . . ? > > Thanks. > > Beth > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com