I have innumerable cousins living in Tasmania, including a keen genealogist What do you need? Jools A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On 3/01/2015, at 12:13 PM, new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Message: 4 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:33:46 +1300 From: "Barbara & Dusty Miller" <bardus@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [nz] Tasmaina To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8EDE9274870E4B1D886B4EF6156E8170@MillerPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi list, Is there anyone on this list living in Tasmania that could help me = please. Barbara

I, too, would love to get some advice about research in Tasmania. Where are records kept? Does a newspaper from the 1890-1900 time frame exist? Thanks for any assistance. Judy Martin

Despite the percentage, according to NZ law, and the way we analyse the census, each subsequent child is 100% Maori if they so choose. Listers in other countries may have trouble with that concept. Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Penrose via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: "'New Zealand Mail List Requests'" <NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 11:59 AM Subject: [nz] Maori / Pakeha % > Could someone who's maths is better than mine tell me the following % of > maori blood in these generations:- > > > > Maori married pakeha - child = 50 % maori > > That child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child will be ? % maori > > > > Thank you > > Jill > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

25%, 12.5%, 6.25%, 3.125% or 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32 Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Penrose via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: "'New Zealand Mail List Requests'" <NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 11:59 AM Subject: [nz] Maori / Pakeha % > Could someone who's maths is better than mine tell me the following % of > maori blood in these generations:- > > > > Maori married pakeha - child = 50 % maori > > That child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child will be ? % maori > > > > Thank you > > Jill > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jill Your question surprises me - I've never seen the idea expressed that way. Can I suggest that, instead of percentages, you start with the idea of 'half'. Secondly, the word Maori is written with an uppercase M Judith On 3/01/2015 11:59 a.m., Jill Penrose via wrote: > Could someone who's maths is better than mine tell me the following % of > maori blood in these generations:- > > > > Maori married pakeha - child = 50 % maori > > That child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child will be ? % maori > > > > Thank you > > Jill > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Each time a child marries a non Maori the content is halved. So they will be 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32. Graham On 3/01/2015 11:59 a.m., Jill Penrose via wrote: > Could someone who's maths is better than mine tell me the following % of > maori blood in these generations:- > > > > Maori married pakeha - child = 50 % maori > > That child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > Their child married pakeha - their child will be ? % maori > > > > Thank you > > Jill > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Graham Jones, 139 Hokianga Road, DARGAVILLE 0310 09-439-8519

Could someone who's maths is better than mine tell me the following % of maori blood in these generations:- Maori married pakeha - child = 50 % maori That child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori Their child married pakeha - their child will be ? % maori Thank you Jill

Hello Barbara I live in Burnie in the NW of Tasmania, but have access to most records. Please contact me off list, if you have not had an offer so far. Regards Louise Gibson On 3/01/2015 10:13 AM, new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:33:25 +1300 > From: "Barbara & Dusty Miller" <bardus@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: [nz] Tasmaina > To: <NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Hi List > Is there anyone on this list living in Tasmania that could help me = > please. > Barbara > >

When I first read the question I was flabbergasted to think that people still were thinking in such terms, but then I had to admit to myself that I didn’t know why the question was being asked. I have lived in Tasmania since 1968 and have seen some of the changes that have occurred in defining Aboriginality in Australia. If people wish to explore identity from an Aboriginal perspective an interesting article can be found here: http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/aboriginal-identity-who-is-aboriginal I would be interested to see something similar written from a Maori perspective. Paddy

Hi, Are there anybody researching the Sutton family from around Powerscourt, Wicklow, Ireland? Would love to hear from you. Regards Sue

Hi Is there anyone going to the Archives &/or library who can do a lookup? Many thanks Sue

Hello All I have now added the snippets for March 1892, lots of interesting info on here. Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1892.March.Lytt.Times.snippets.html -- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ transcriber of old newspapers. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Pam, I suppose that you have tried looking at Chamberlain. Isla Stewart. -----Original Message----- From: LittleMiracles via Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 11:51 AM To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Augustus Roger Spence CHAMBERLIN Many thanks to Penne and Heather who gave me some wonderful clues that set me off on a real adventure, but still can't match up my Augustus. The one I was given is either a g/grandfather or a gg/uncle. Have gone back to England and on the 16th Sep 1859 at St John's Lowestoft Mutford Suffolk England, the following children were all christened, would say before setting off to New Zealand. Parents: Charles (d 1878) & Ann Jane (d. 1906) CHAMBERLIN Children: George (d. 1921) ...Sarah Hugg.....Ernest Henry (b 1859 d 1933)..... Charles (b. 1854 d. 1935) The following children were born in NZ Augustus Frederick 1861/1944 Edith Ellen Maria 1865/1948 Would like to find the ship they came on, but not having any luck, so could do with help from the shipping experts please. May have landed in Auckland ?? as the family bought Ponui Island, some times known as Chamberlin Island in the Hauraki Gulf, which is still owned by them today. Have found most of the children's children but still can't connect Augustus b. 1924 d. 2013 Any further clues would be very much appreciated. Happy New Year, may all the walls come tumbling down Pam The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to Penne and Heather who gave me some wonderful clues that set me off on a real adventure, but still can't match up my Augustus. The one I was given is either a g/grandfather or a gg/uncle. Have gone back to England and on the 16th Sep 1859 at St John's Lowestoft Mutford Suffolk England, the following children were all christened, would say before setting off to New Zealand. Parents: Charles (d 1878) & Ann Jane (d. 1906) CHAMBERLIN Children: George (d. 1921) ...Sarah Hugg.....Ernest Henry (b 1859 d 1933)..... Charles (b. 1854 d. 1935) The following children were born in NZ Augustus Frederick 1861/1944 Edith Ellen Maria 1865/1948 Would like to find the ship they came on, but not having any luck, so could do with help from the shipping experts please. May have landed in Auckland ?? as the family bought Ponui Island, some times known as Chamberlin Island in the Hauraki Gulf, which is still owned by them today. Have found most of the children's children but still can't connect Augustus b. 1924 d. 2013 Any further clues would be very much appreciated. Happy New Year, may all the walls come tumbling down Pam

Happy New Year everyone I have just added the BMD from the Lyttelton Times for March 1892 do email for a newspaper copy Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1892.March.Lytt.Times.BMD.html -- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ transcriber of old newspapers. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hello All Happy New Year everyone I have just added the BMD from The Press for February 1984 do email for a newspaper copy Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1984.February.Press.BMD.html -- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ transcriber of old newspapers. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi All: The New Zealand BDM registers included overseas BDMs from the 20th century, The microfiche for 1840-50s marriages have early marriages from various church registers, the microfiche lists one source as Auckland Islands registers (from a short-lived settlement there). The Chatham Islands was made British or New Zealand territory to prevent the New Zealand Company putting a German settlement there in 1841 through their agent in Hamburg and John Nicholas Beit (Beit and the German settlers went to Nelson instead), Patricia Burns in "Fatal Success" calls Beit a villain straight out of a Victorian melodrama. Some ITM volumes I have seen have the Chatham Islands at the end, probably due to delays in receiving the returns by the Registrar-General. New Zealand wardeaths for World Wars I & II were in the Registrar-General's "historic" website as in 1918 & 1945 respectively, though the actual dates are being gradually added. A search for the surnames Malone and Hargest will turn up two well-known Army officers William Malone (died 1915) and James Hargest (died 1944) with registration numbers 1918/XXXXX and 1945/XXXXX though William Malone now has the actual death date of 8 August 1915 (on Gallipoli). Overseas BDMs were recorded to establish New Zealand citizenship. Archives has birth & death registers from the New Zealand High Commission in New Delhi from the late 1960s & 1970s, though none from other overseas posts. Yours, John Wilson > To the person who emailed me querying birthplace of above. I tried > replying > to your email address but kept bouncing back. Hoping you see this. > > Although Amelia and four of her siblings' birth reg. appear on > https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/ [One would assume the > births > took place on NZ soil]. However, three of the events, that appear on the > DIA BDM site > actually took place at Waitangi West, Chatham Islands.

Not to be confused with my McHOY family in the UK. After many years and looking at so many census pages, I discovered that one of my HOY great grandfather's brothers had changed his surname to McHOY just on a whim. His descendants have told me that he spoke with a strong Scottish accent, despite being born in London to an English mother and a Scottish father. His workmates called him 'Mac' so he changed his name and moved the family from London to the Midlands. His birth and marriage certificates are in the name of HOY while his death and later certs for his children and grandchildren are in the name of McHOY. Another lesson learned! Carolyn

Hi list, Is there anyone on this list living in Tasmania that could help me = please. Barbara

Hi List Is there anyone on this list living in Tasmania that could help me = please. Barbara