On Thu, 1 Jan 2015, Pam, posting as "LittleMiracles" <ppakes@ihug.co.nz>, asked >Subject: [nz] Augustus Roger Spence CHAMBERLIN > >Many thanks to Penne and Heather who gave me some wonderful clues >that set me off on a real adventure, but still can't match up my >Augustus. The one I was given is either a g/grandfather or a >gg/uncle. > >Have gone back to England and on the 16th Sep 1859 at St John's >Lowestoft Mutford Suffolk England, the following children were all >christened, would say before setting off to New Zealand. > >Parents: Charles (d 1878) & Ann Jane (d. 1906) CHAMBERLIN > >Children: George (d. 1921) ...Sarah Hugg.....Ernest Henry (b 1859 d >1933)..... Charles (b. 1854 d. 1935) > >The following children were born in NZ >Augustus Frederick 1861/1944 >Edith Ellen Maria 1865/1948 > >Would like to find the ship they came on, but not having any luck, >so could do with help from the shipping experts please. May have >landed in Auckland ?? as the family bought Ponui Island, some times >known as Chamberlin Island in the Hauraki Gulf, which is still owned >by them today. > >Have found most of the children's children but still can't connect >Augustus b. 1924 d. 2013 > >Any further clues would be very much appreciated. > >Happy New Year, may all the walls come tumbling down > >Pam Hi Pam re: still can't connect Augustus b. 1924 d. 2013 I'm picking that Augustus Roger Spence CHAMBERLIN is a grandson of the ' Augustus Frederick CHAMBERLIN 1864/1944 ' above, and that his parents were Augustus Ofa Talau CHAMBERLIN and Edythe Grace (nee WADDINGTON) Papers Past indicates that Augustus Frederick CHAMBERLIN married in Tonga in 1894. I'll send my paper trail in a private email Hope this helps Graham Hoult Kirwee, Canterbury. who knew and admired Former Federated Farmer's President, Brian Chamberlin

Hugh, please make contact. Robyn --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

I found this death, and am trying to find if it’s the same person. NAME: Charles Joseph Callaghan DEATH DATE: Oct-Nov-Dec 1931 REGISTRATION PLACE: Palmerston North, Wellington, New Zealand FOLIO NUMBER: 3615 Very grateful for any assistance regards Jan Sent from Windows Mail

Hello All I have just added the BMD and the snippets from the Lyttelton Times, I do hope you find something of value here. Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1874.August.Lytt.Times.snippets.html http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1874.August.Lytt.Times.BMD.html -- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ transcriber of old newspapers. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi all According to the Index of the Dominion Post there is a death notice on 12 Nov 2003 for a Rev. Leslie Norman Walter RAWLINGS. Is there anyone that could access that for me and send a copy of the notice please. I tried the online Version but it doesn't go back that far. Thanks Joy Light

first records up from A-D available on line.. www.redcross.org.uk/about-us/who-we-are/history-and-origin/First-World-War may help some of us... taken off Derbysgen site.. Adele -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 10:56:30 +1300 Sue king <sueray2002@gmail.com> messaged > Subject: [nz] Christchurch Lookup > Hi > Is there anyone going to the Archives &/or library who can do a lookup? > Many thanks Sue Hi Sue Happy to do a lookup if you have had no other offers. Graham Kirwee

Hello Graham, The NZ /Ridley Hall connection is through two LOWES brothers William who settled in Masterton and Thomas of Ashurst. We descend from Thomas and have researched the family from Haltwhistle Northumberland. Am happy to share. Jan McB. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Glass via Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 10:43 AM To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Lowes Family Hi Listers, Happy New Year and successful researching for 2015. I have just discovered a family connection (via my Graham line) to the Lowes family of Ridley Hall, Northumberland, England. If you have connections to this family I would love to communicate with you. Best regards, Bruce Glass Papamoa Beach The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found Bruce Glass message intriguing, as some years back, I found a grave up at Masterton which could possibly answer some of the questions! from memory its LOWE of Haltwhistle, its a tall monument, I contacted Bruce, but so far not heard back, offered to go up to Masterton to photograph it.. and no doubt Masterton Archives could help further.. I dont know why this headstone in particular stood out for me but it did, perhaps as I have roots around Haltwhistle and his mention on Ridley Hall, as my Ridley were from Tow House Green so nearby! then they left and went to Gillingham in Kent. I was up at Haltwhistle in 2004. Had hoped to have done more on this last trip, but health wouldnt allow any trips. I understood it was BOWLES-LYON at Ridley Hall, and buried near by ancestors! I know when I started on the Ridley side of my family (with Pentony) I had Bardon Hall helping me my ancestors are buried at Beltingham I did contact Bruce but not heard back as yet.. it maybe a William buried at Masterton, but as I said to him, can go up and photograph the monument if he would like to see it and read what else is on it.. its a lovely part of Northumberland, Hadrians Wall, as when I was in the Museum there, talking to a person on duty said stopped off near the old pub, now a private home, he said he lived next door, I said the pub was Ridley owned, my ancestors! Nothing like a bit of history to get me going!!! -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

Judy and List *The website, as given by Kitty, has only been available since November 2014, but it now provides us with access to copies of the vast majority of B, D & Ms from 1837 to 1900, and for the early baptisms, burials and marriages from 1803 to about 1837. The B, D & M's are copies of those held by the Registrar General's Dept., NOT the original church records. The website also gives easy access to individual convict records and to Wills to about 1990. The Wills on this website are NOT ALL Tasmanian wills as there are also a considerable number of wills at the Tasmanian Lands Department, in Hobart, BUT these latter wills are only accessible by a personal visit and there is no index available. <http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/tasmaniasheritage/search/name-indexes-archived/nameindexes> *In 1994 and again in early 2004, virtually ALL Tombstones and Monumental Inscriptions, and memorials within Tasmania to 2002, were indexed onto firstly a set of microfiche, and secondly, onto CD, and it is known with the an acronym of TAMIOT (Tombstone and Monumental Inscriptions of Tasmania). This index is ONLY for those souls whose family gave them some sort of memorial. The above CD/Index does NOT include Hobart's main cemetery, Cornelian Bay Cemetery, nor Carr Villa Cemetery in Launceston, however both these two cemeteries have online indexes available to ALL their burials: Cornelian Bay: <http://www.millingtons.com.au/records-search> Carr Villa: <http://www.launceston.tas.gov.au/lcc/index.php?c=30#Search%20our%20burial%20records> (NOTE:This last web address is a two line address) *Newspapers:New Zealand has PapersPast, and Australia has Trove: <http://trove.nla.gov.au/> and in answer to Judy's question, almost all of the pre 1900 newspapers for Tasmania are now on Trove, and the aim within the National Library of Australia (NLA) is to have all newspapers initially to 1954. This is very much a "work in progress", but Tasmania's three main newspapers, in their current form and names, are there to 1954: Hobart: Mercury Launceston: Examiner Northwest Coast: Advocate I think I have covered the basics except for this island state having its own archives which is now combined with our State Library system, and the web address at the beginning of this email is only a part of what is available through the Tasmanian Archives and Heritage Office (TAHO) at: <http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/> but, we are also part of Australia, and ...for example... soldiers papers; then they are at a national level and are available through the National Archives of Australia (NAA) web site: <http://naa12.naa.gov.au> If anyone needs any more assistance, there is the Tasmanian mailing List, on Rootsweb, and if anyone has a specific question, I may well be able to help, but off list as Tasmania is Off Topic Louise Gibson Burnie, Tasmania On 4/01/2015 7:32 PM, new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 13:51:27 -0500 > From: Judy Martin <commjet@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [nz] Tasmania Assistance > To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com > > I, too, would love to get some advice about research in Tasmania. > Where are records kept? Does a newspaper from the 1890-1900 time frame exist? > Thanks for any assistance. > > Judy Martin

try www.paperspast.co.nz On 04/01/2015 20:45, blacksheep21 via wrote: > My cousin and I are wondering if local papers in the Ngapara, Oamaru > area would print engagement notices? We have a great aunt who was > engaged but never married the man due to him playing away. We hoped a > local paper would have a notice with his name.We have no idea of > papers in that area at that time and hoped someone could give us a > newspaper name or a site where we could look for them. > > Thanks, > Barb & Toni. > ------------------------- > Email sent using Optus Webmail > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ [1] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com [2] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ [2] mailto:NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com

Hi Barb & Toni The 1911 newspaper would have been the North Otago Times, and if I am correct should be on Papers Past. Not sure if many people advertised engagements back then though. Regards Judy Oamaru Sent from my iPad > On 4 Jan 2015, at 20:45, blacksheep21 via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > My cousin and I are wondering if local papers in the Ngapara, Oamaru > area would print engagement notices? We have a great aunt who was > engaged but never married the man due to him playing away. We hoped a > local paper would have a notice with his name.We have no idea of > papers in that area at that time and hoped someone could give us a > newspaper name or a site where we could look for them. > > Thanks, > Barb & Toni. > ------------------------- > Email sent using Optus Webmail > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to everybody who suggested paper past and other papers. We did find another uncles marriage report but no engagement for my great aunt. We'll just have to keep digging to solve the puzzle. Thanks again Barb ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail

My cousin and I are wondering if local papers in the Ngapara, Oamaru area would print engagement notices? We have a great aunt who was engaged but never married the man due to him playing away. We hoped a local paper would have a notice with his name.We have no idea of papers in that area at that time and hoped someone could give us a newspaper name or a site where we could look for them. Thanks, Barb & Toni. ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail

Oh yes Heather I can relate to every word, but weren't they the best of times. There was fun and laughter, chores were done, out door games, fresh hot meals on the table, bed, only to do it all again the next day. Those were the days, at least we can keep the dreams, even if my grandchildren think I lived in another world Pam A POEM THAT SOME CAN RELATE TO I remember the cheese of my childhood, And the bread that we cut with a knife When the children helped with the housework, And the men went to work not the wife. The cheese never needed a fridge, And the bread was so crusty and hot The children were seldom unhappy And the wife was content with her lot. I remember the milk from the bottle, With the yummy cream on the top, Our dinner came hot from the oven, And not from the fridge; in the shop. The kids were a lot more contented, They didn't need money for kicks, Just a game with their mates in the road, And sometimes the Saturday flicks. I remember the shop on the corner, Where a pen'orth of sweets was sold Do you think I'm a bit too nostalgic? Or is it...I'm just getting old? I remember the 'loo' was the lav And the bogey man came in the night, It wasn't the least bit funny Going "out back" with no light. The interesting items we perused From the newspapers cut into squares, And hung on a peg in the loo, It took little to keep us amused. The clothes were boiled in the copper With plenty of rich foamy suds But the ironing seemed never ending As Mum pressed everyone's 'duds'. I remember the slap on my backside, And the taste of soap if I swore Anorexia and diets weren't heard of And we hadn't much choice what we wore. Do you think that bruised our ego? Or our initiative was destroyed? We ate what was put on the table And I think life was better enjoyed. ANON the age of remembrance must be 60 plus!!!!!!!!!!

If you go into this site a lot of records are online for free to look at and download. Kitty Tasmania http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/tasmaniasheritage/search/name-indexes-archived/nameindexes

Oh yes, all that resonates with me!! As for "loo" - I prefer it to the American euphemism of "bathroom" - a bathroom is where you wash and bathe. I used to work in a library and the first time someone came in an asked for the bathroom I thought they had gone out of their minds - "we're a library, you don't bath here!!" Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: Heather McLean via Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:01 AM To: New-Zealand-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Fw: A POEM THAT SOME CAN RELATE TO A POEM THAT SOME CAN RELATE TO I remember the cheese of my childhood, And the bread that we cut with a knife When the children helped with the housework, And the men went to work not the wife. The cheese never needed a fridge, And the bread was so crusty and hot The children were seldom unhappy And the wife was content with her lot. I remember the milk from the bottle, With the yummy cream on the top, Our dinner came hot from the oven, And not from the fridge; in the shop. The kids were a lot more contented, They didn't need money for kicks, Just a game with their mates in the road, And sometimes the Saturday flicks. I remember the shop on the corner, Where a pen'orth of sweets was sold Do you think I'm a bit too nostalgic? Or is it...I'm just getting old? I remember the 'loo' was the lav And the bogey man came in the night, It wasn't the least bit funny Going "out back" with no light. The interesting items we perused From the newspapers cut into squares, And hung on a peg in the loo, It took little to keep us amused. The clothes were boiled in the copper With plenty of rich foamy suds But the ironing seemed never ending As Mum pressed everyone's 'duds'. I remember the slap on my backside, And the taste of soap if I swore Anorexia and diets weren't heard of And we hadn't much choice what we wore. Do you think that bruised our ego? Or our initiative was destroyed? We ate what was put on the table And I think life was better enjoyed. ANON the age of remembrance must be 60 plus!!!!!!!!!! The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A POEM THAT SOME CAN RELATE TO I remember the cheese of my childhood, And the bread that we cut with a knife When the children helped with the housework, And the men went to work not the wife. The cheese never needed a fridge, And the bread was so crusty and hot The children were seldom unhappy And the wife was content with her lot. I remember the milk from the bottle, With the yummy cream on the top, Our dinner came hot from the oven, And not from the fridge; in the shop. The kids were a lot more contented, They didn't need money for kicks, Just a game with their mates in the road, And sometimes the Saturday flicks. I remember the shop on the corner, Where a pen'orth of sweets was sold Do you think I'm a bit too nostalgic? Or is it...I'm just getting old? I remember the 'loo' was the lav And the bogey man came in the night, It wasn't the least bit funny Going "out back" with no light. The interesting items we perused From the newspapers cut into squares, And hung on a peg in the loo, It took little to keep us amused. The clothes were boiled in the copper With plenty of rich foamy suds But the ironing seemed never ending As Mum pressed everyone's 'duds'. I remember the slap on my backside, And the taste of soap if I swore Anorexia and diets weren't heard of And we hadn't much choice what we wore. Do you think that bruised our ego? Or our initiative was destroyed? We ate what was put on the table And I think life was better enjoyed. ANON the age of remembrance must be 60 plus!!!!!!!!!!

There is a mailing list for Tasmania, like this one is for New Zealand. You may find it helpful. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-Tasmania.html Wendy Judy Martin via wrote on 4/01/2015 07:51: > I, too, would love to get some advice about research in Tasmania. > > > Where are records kept? Does a newspaper from the 1890-1900 time frame exist? > > > Thanks for any assistance. > > > Judy Martin >

Hi, I am glad to see this question. how about grand parent Maori married white person parents: father 1/2 maori, mother white but: adopted by Maori. Mother then under maori law Maori. child is 3/4 maori. Just to confuse the issue. Robyn ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Each time a child marries a non Maori the content is > halved. So they will be 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32. > > Graham > > On 3/01/2015 11:59 a.m., Jill Penrose via wrote: > > Could someone who's maths is better than mine tell me > > the following % of maori blood in these generations:- > > > > > > > > Maori married pakeha - child = 50 % maori > > > > That child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > > > Their child married pakeha - their child is ? % maori > > > > Their child married pakeha - their child will be ? % > maori > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > -- > Graham Jones, > 139 Hokianga Road, > DARGAVILLE 0310 > 09-439-8519 > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message