With a family member coming to NZ shortly, I have been taking another look at my Howe family from the North, and with the hope that some new/scanned information is now available,I am asking,where the name HOWE POINT came from. Last try I mailed academics,archeologists,historians,looked at documents and books of early place names. Nothing.There was a vague suggestion it may have been after a Captain Howe, mine was also a Captain Howe, one of two, and if he lived there, more likely, but even if not him, its worth chasing up. I have now moved on, and after thinking my Howes may have been associated with the missionaries, as his name is amongst theirs on the 1846 Clendon cencus. I am now thinking he may have occupied land belonging to his brother in law Edward Bolger a ,then ships captain of the Govenor Halkett and later Harbour master at Russell. One of his blocks of land NZ map 4277, is exactly covering that area, and I am having trouble finding anything at all as the area is so remote, and when I drove there several years back, it was pretty much private access from a certain point on. Now with the rellie coming,I am trying to lead him to water, so to speak!! After leaving Te Puna circa 1845/6 William Howe and family moved to Paroa Bay where they remained until they died.Their eldest son and his family returned to NSW but the next son was still living at Paroa Bay in a homestead called "The Pines" when he died in 1903. Looking at Google maps I see a winery at Paroa Bay but not much else, any suggestions. Cheers penne

On 9/02/2015 12:00 p.m., Bob Matthews via wrote: > Hi Les > Shirley does not do the column any more.......... > > Shirley M Hay (nee Hamilton) > > 25 Summerset, 36 Shetland St, > > Bishopscourt, Dunedin, 9010, New Zealand > > Ph: 03) 950 3025; Shirley@smhay.com <mailto:Shirley@smhay.com> > > > > On 9/02/2015 11:05 a.m., ljhewett via wrote: >> >> >> Any Dunedin lister aware of Shirley Hay (NZSG) who published a >> Genealogy column in local paper? My address for her is bouncing. Les H., >> Napier. >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Does the column still exist in any form? Tony Mooar

Hi Noeleen , Regarding the offspring , I note that there are twelve possibilities, born between 1880 and 1910 https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2FbirthSelect.m%3Fpage%3D4#matches On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Noeleen Sutton via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com > wrote: > William Jones married Mary Ann Pike in 1879. They lived in Auckland and he > died tragically in 1911 and left at least 9 children. Mary Ann died in > 1919. > Anyone researching this family? > > > > Best wishes, > > Noeleen. > > nsutton@xtra.co.nz > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Les Shirley does not do the column any more.......... Shirley M Hay (nee Hamilton) 25 Summerset, 36 Shetland St, Bishopscourt, Dunedin, 9010, New Zealand Ph: 03) 950 3025; Shirley@smhay.com <mailto:Shirley@smhay.com> On 9/02/2015 11:05 a.m., ljhewett via wrote: > > > Any Dunedin lister aware of Shirley Hay (NZSG) who published a > Genealogy column in local paper? My address for her is bouncing. Les H., > Napier. > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Noleen , While I am not researching your family of interest , I note that the full name of the male in question is probably William Frederick Jones Cheers , Ray On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Noeleen Sutton via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com > wrote: > William Jones married Mary Ann Pike in 1879. They lived in Auckland and he > died tragically in 1911 and left at least 9 children. Mary Ann died in > 1919. > Anyone researching this family? > > > > Best wishes, > > Noeleen. > > nsutton@xtra.co.nz > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Any Dunedin lister aware of Shirley Hay (NZSG) who published a Genealogy column in local paper? My address for her is bouncing. Les H., Napier.

Hello Would SKS be able to supply death notice for Lila Holmwood from this newspaper published 6 and 7 February. Thanks. Karen

New Zealand Herald, 20 June 1936, Page 16 OBITUARY MRS. ANNIE HOWE EARLY DAYS RECALLED A link with the early history of Nw Zealand, both Maori and European, was broken by the death in Auckland yesterday of Mrs. Annie Howe. A halfcaste Maori, Mrs. Howe was a daughter of the late Mr. William Cook, a pioneer of North Auckland, whose wife, a Maori, Tiraha, was a relative of the famous Ngapuhi chieftain, Tamati Waaka Nene. Born at Paihia, Bay of Islands, on August 31. 1845, Mrs. Howe was second youngest of the 12 children of Mr. and Mrs. Cook. She lived in the Bay of Islands for between 60 and 70 years, and well remembered the death of Waaka Xene, who was a central figure at the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi. Mrs. Howe, who was married at an early age to Mr. Thomas Howe, a farmer in the district, removed to Waiuku when her husband died between 20 and 30 years ago. More recently she had been living in Auckland with one of her grandchildren. Mr. and Mrs. Howe had a large family. Two sons lost their lives at the war and another was drowned. Mrs. Howe's father. Mr. Cook, left Russell in the early years of last century with Captain Stewart to build a vessel at Stewart Island. The plan miscarried, but Mr. Cook built the schooner Joseph Weller. for Weller Brothers, before returning to the North. New Zealand Herald, 10 January 1925, Page 10 ME. BERNARD G. HOWE. The death of Mr. Bernard George Howe at Omapere on January 3 removed one of Hokianga's oldest and most respected settlers. Born at Te Pima, in the Bay of Islands, on February 24, 1845, the late Mr. Howe was educated at Canon Gould's school at Russell. On leaving school he went to sea, coasting-principally between North Cape and East Cape. He became noted for his dash 3nd skill in handling schooners, and was also an expert oarsman and a successful competitor at the early Auckland, Russell, and Hokianga regattas. Mr. Howe settled in Hokianga in 1868, entering the employ of the late Mr. J. R. Clendon as supervisor of native stoves and kauri gum purchaser.. Three, years later he took over the store at Kawerua and started business on his own account, and in the following year married Miss Howe and made his home at Omapere, where he carried on an extensive business for many years. When Messrs. Webster and Marriner closed operations at Opononi he changed his business centre to their more commodious premises, these being subsequently purchased by Messrs. A. S. Andrewes and Sons. Taking a keen interest in all sports, and in the general welfare of the district, Mr. Howe was a useful citizen. He served several terms as a member of the Hokianga County Council. He also held the position of postmaster at Omapere and at Opononi till ill-health forced him to retire. He was known throughout the district for his charitable and generous disposition. http://www.barnardwilliams.com/pdfs/Family_view_of_Barnard_Williams_and_Ann_Ralph.pdf New Zealand Pilot 1883 http://preview.tinyurl.com/nyns9yy Cape Wiwiki is at the entrance to the Bay of Islands and forms the western entrance point, is a steep bold headland, its summit, mount Pocock, being 843 feet high. One mile southward of Cape Wiwiki is Howe point. Between Howe point and the island Motu-roa, situated 2 miles southward, is the passage to the western anchorages of port Tepuna and Keri-keri river. Motu-roa is a long narrow island and extending off Toke-toke point on the mainland, 1 3/4 miles, is 220ft high, and the channel known as Kent passage, between its western extreme and teh point is 2 cables wide and 7 feet at low water. Tepuna or Rangihoua bay -s.w. from Howe Point. Here the first missionary station was established in New Zealand. Onslow or Howe rock is the only danger to be avoided which lies in the outer entrance, between Howe and Black rocks. and is seen just northward of Cocked Hat isalnd, a low traiangular shaped island, three quarters of a mile beyond it. On the 11th August H. M. Sloop of War Daphne, Captain Onslow, arrived in Auckland, from the South American Station and on the 16th September, 1844. ____________________________________________________ Timaru Herald, 1 September 1900, Page 1 HUMOROUS AND SERIOUS SIDE. Johnnie : " What does it mean by seeing the humorous and the serious side of things ? " Father : " Well, my son, take a bit of orange peel, for example. How many sides has it ?" Johnnie : " Why, two, of course." Father : " Exactly ; and when some other man steps on that orange peel he sees the serious side of it, and you see the humourous side."

You would probably have to go through the muster rolls (at Auckland War Memorial) to determine who was living in with family. The 58th only came to Auckland in early 1845 when they arrived to assist resisting the rebellions in Northland. The muster roll should indicate who was living in and whether births occurred. I doubt a specific list was kept but an event may have been recorded. You should also check church records about inner Auckland at that time for baptism. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:ckealy@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2015 1:49 p.m. To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Records for soldiers and their families -Albert Barracks 1848 Hi, Does anyone know if records were kept for soldiers living in the Albert Barracks late 1840's. I believe that wives and children also lived there. My gr gr grandfather, Thomas Clinch, was a soldier in 58th Rutlandshire and apparently his wife, Bridget, gave birth in the Barracks to baby Ellen b 1848. Am keen to find lists of soldiers and their families in the barracks at this time. Any assistance would be appreciated. With thanks Chris

Rosa Pratt was born in New Zealand in 1877, to parents Emma and Thomas Cheers, Ray

Hi Tania , Not a direct answer to your question but maybe worth knowing and/or following up ? Cheers , Ray *From:* Gloria Wilks < douglor@shoal.net.au> *Subject:* [PRATT] Pratt's of Bledlow *Date:* Thu, 09 Aug 2001 00:34:14 +1000 Hello listers, Is anyone researching the Pratt family of Bledlow, Buckinghamshire. Am looking for information about the family of Thomas Patroclous Pratt born 1838 at Bledlow. His parents were Joseph and Jane nee Figg. Jane died late 1849 remarried Ann? Thomas Patroclous Pratt migrated to Melbourne, Australia and married Emma Payne in 1868. Two children Alfred Payne Pratt, and Amy Christina Pratt were born prior to the family migrating to Christchurch, New Zealand. Thomas' brother Joseph may have migrated to Christchurch after 1881. Alfred Payne Pratt was my husband's grandfather. Any contact or information appreciated Gloria Wilks Burrill Lake, N.S.W.Australia On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:59 PM, tania anstiss via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am searching for information regarding the Pratt family who lived in > Christchurch in the late 1800s/ early 1900s. In particular regarding Rosa > Pratt (daughter of Thomas and Emma Pratt) who lived in St Albans and ran a > dressmaking business with her sister Emily around 1900-1915. Thank you. > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

William Jones married Mary Ann Pike in 1879. They lived in Auckland and he died tragically in 1911 and left at least 9 children. Mary Ann died in 1919. Anyone researching this family? Best wishes, Noeleen. nsutton@xtra.co.nz

I am searching for information regarding the Pratt family who lived in Christchurch in the late 1800s/ early 1900s. In particular regarding Rosa Pratt (daughter of Thomas and Emma Pratt) who lived in St Albans and ran a dressmaking business with her sister Emily around 1900-1915. Thank you.

Hello All I have added the BMD and snippets from the Lyttelton Times for August 1894 Some interesting obituaries of early pioneers. Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1894.August.Lytt.Times.snippets.html http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1894.August.Lytt.Times.BMD.html -- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ transcriber of old newspapers. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

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I have used the AJCP Microfilm records at the Auckland War Memorial Museum - 2nd floor, the 'Armoury' (NOT Library) to research NZ Muster rolls for the 58th regiment (when in NZ) You will need to know how to load/operate the Microfilm reader (as often the volunteers onsite don't) and will need time to view records. Most of the records are pay period based, but there are additional notes for those on medical stand-down - which might include spouses and birth related information. If nothing else you may be able to track movements in/out of the barracks. Best of Luck Ian

Hi Olwyn: I would suggest that Douglas Dixon DRYDEN was a medical officer in the Territorials (part-time) and was responsible for medical examinations for the NZEF in WWI, but did not himself serve overseas in the NZEF. Rather old for overseas service, and perhaps a married man with children. At Archives, NZEF personnel files are in series 18805, while series 22525 is for those who served on other forces in WWI (Australian, British including RFC, RAF, RN, RNVR) and also nurses and V.A.Ds. Series 7291 has files for those in the permanent forces (i.e. fulltime Army staff) and some territorials. Dryden or Gabites are not in series 7291, but the series has an Archives Territorial Force file for Captain James Robert LOUGHNAN, M.B.Ch.B. of New Zealand Medical Corps (R22204192). There would be a number of Army staff at the Feathers ton Camp (and other training camps in New Zealand) who did not serve overseas in the NZEF. Re Campaign Medals, for the British War Medal service had to be "over the seas" and for the Victory Medal in a war zone. Hence those who died en route to Egypt or France and those in training in England in 1918 when the Armistice was declares would get the British War Medal only. While German Samoa was taken without a fight in 1914, members of the Samoa Expeditionary Force qualified for both medals, while those in the Samoa Relief Force got the British War Medal only (and required a lesser medical standard than for service in a war zone). Those in the Samoa Expeditionary Force or serving in Egypt or Gallipoli before the end of 1915 would get the 1914-15 Star also. Note that the 1914 Star required service in France (i.e. the Western Front, including Belgium) before 22 November 1914, and the only New Zealanders to qualify were two nurses. Yours, John Wilson Subject: [nz] Dr. Douglas Dixon Dryden was he ever in the NZEF? Or is this a mistake? > Born in Plymouth Devonshire. In Fairlie until 1899, then moved to Timaru > where he died 5 Dec 1935 aged 75. buried Timaru. > > Timaru Herald, 12 August 1914, Page 7 SOUTH CANTERBURY MEN > SELECTED LAST NIGHT. The medical inspection at the Drill Shed last night > was most thorough. The officiating officers were Major Gabites, Major > Loughnan, and Captain Dryden. > > Timaru Herald, 7 April 1916, Page 7 > Surgeon- Captain D. D. Dryden, N.Z. Medical Corps, has been promoted to > the > rank of Major. > > http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=THD19191126.2.3 > Timaru Herald, 26 November 1919, Page 2 > Major Dryden N.Z.M.C, >

Thanks to John and Allan for the replies. Interesting. I am having a field day with the cemetery records online. http://www.ancestry.com.au/cs/au/waitangi2015 Cheers, Olwyn On 6 February 2015 at 05:08, John Wilson <hugo@actrix.co.nz> wrote: > Hi Olwyn: > > I would suggest that Douglas Dixon DRYDEN was a medical officer in the > Territorials (part-time) and was responsible for medical examinations for > the NZEF in WWI, but did not himself serve overseas in the NZEF. Rather old > for overseas service, and perhaps a married man with children. At Archives, > NZEF personnel files are in series 18805, while series 22525 is for those > who served on other forces in WWI (Australian, British including RFC, RAF, > RN, RNVR) and also nurses and V.A.Ds. Series 7291 has files for those in > the permanent forces (i.e. fulltime Army staff) and some territorials. > Dryden or Gabites are not in series 7291, but the series has an Archives > Territorial Force file for Captain James Robert LOUGHNAN, M.B.Ch.B. of New > Zealand Medical Corps (R22204192). There would be a number of Army staff at > the Feathers ton Camp (and other training camps in New Zealand) who did not > serve overseas in the NZEF. > > Re Campaign Medals, for the British War Medal service had to be "over the > seas" and for the Victory Medal in a war zone. Hence those who died en > route to Egypt or France and those in training in England in 1918 when the > Armistice was declares would get the British War Medal only. While German > Samoa was taken without a fight in 1914, members of the Samoa Expeditionary > Force qualified for both medals, while those in the Samoa Relief Force got > the British War Medal only (and required a lesser medical standard than for > service in a war zone). Those in the Samoa Expeditionary Force or serving > in Egypt or Gallipoli before the end of 1915 would get the 1914-15 Star > also. Note that the 1914 Star required service in France (i.e. the Western > Front, including Belgium) before 22 November 1914, and the only New > Zealanders to qualify were two nurses. > > Yours, John Wilson > > Subject: [nz] Dr. Douglas Dixon Dryden was he ever in the NZEF? Or is this > a mistake? > > > Born in Plymouth Devonshire. In Fairlie until 1899, then moved to Timaru >> where he died 5 Dec 1935 aged 75. buried Timaru. >> >> Timaru Herald, 12 August 1914, Page 7 SOUTH CANTERBURY MEN >> SELECTED LAST NIGHT. The medical inspection at the Drill Shed last night >> was most thorough. The officiating officers were Major Gabites, Major >> Loughnan, and Captain Dryden. >> >> Timaru Herald, 7 April 1916, Page 7 >> Surgeon- Captain D. D. Dryden, N.Z. Medical Corps, has been promoted to >> the >> rank of Major. >> >> http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=THD19191126.2.3 >> Timaru Herald, 26 November 1919, Page 2 >> Major Dryden N.Z.M.C, >> >>

Born in Plymouth Devonshire. In Fairlie until 1899, then moved to Timaru where he died 5 Dec 1935 aged 75. buried Timaru. Timaru Herald, 12 August 1914, Page 7 SOUTH CANTERBURY MEN SELECTED LAST NIGHT. The medical inspection at the Drill Shed last night was most thorough. The officiating officers were Major Gabites, Major Loughnan, and Captain Dryden. Timaru Herald, 7 April 1916, Page 7 Surgeon- Captain D. D. Dryden, N.Z. Medical Corps, has been promoted to the rank of Major. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=THD19191126.2.3 Timaru Herald, 26 November 1919, Page 2 Major Dryden N.Z.M.C,

Hi Christine , I note a Family Tree on Ancestry.com.au which includes : Violet Kate Anderson Born 13 June 1896 Died 15 September 1971 , at Lower Hutt Married Carl Gustav ( Charles ) Anderson , 1920 Should you have no 'takers' as yet I could pass your message on to the family Tree owner Cheers , Ray On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Christine Nagel via < new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have saved from the rubbish 6 books all came from within the same family > names in them are. > Lloyd 10.11.1929 > Violet Anderson presented by Pukahu school bible class may 23 1900 > Charles Todd march 28 1917 > Violet Andreson Lower Hutt > Gladys [Wards/Hands/] hard to read > M Synnott from Blenheim > Any one interested happy to pass them on > Christine Upper Hutt > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >