Hi Beth While I cannot help much with your Bernard GORDON, his wife was Margaret BELL, daughter of William Gordon and Alziere BELL of whom much is written and available. Alziere and her daughter Margaret were born on the island of Carriacou, in the West Indies, but the family returned to WGB's home near Dumfries, Scotland, where other children were born.  It is understood that it was partly because of Margaret's health that the family left Scotland. I too do not know what became of Bernard. The short version of the story is that WGB, his wife and children, including Margaret, came from Scotland. They left Liverpool on 17.Jul.1839, aboard the "Lady Lilford". They embarked 27.Sep.1839 at Adelaide, seeking land there, but eventually came on to NZ via Sydney, (we think) arriving Petone 16.Mar.1840 aboard the "Palmyra". So, I have lots of information on her, her siblings, and the rest of the family. Margaret & Bernard had no children, or at least none that survived.  Ah, but now I see that you know all that already!  I had presumed Bernard & the BELLs travelled together, and of course now I look at the "Lady Lilford" passenger list, Bernard is not there. I do not know how when or how he arrived.  It may be him on "Pauline" from Nelson to Sydney in 1852   http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/events/2/189.htm#11929 I fear not as helpful as I had thought I would be ! Cheers,jo ____________ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:11:47 +1300 From: aotueka <aotueka@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [nz] Help with Bernard Gordon, please To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <5504EA63.7080902@xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hello all.  I am struggling to find any information about a relative, and I know next to nothing about him. My Mr Bernard GORDON married in Nelson in 1848.  He is listed as a full age clerk from Wellington.  He and his wife Margaret did not sty together and family anecdotes have him leaving NZ. However, according to BDM's, a Mr Bernard Gordon died in 1915 aged 90 years.  If this is my man, he would have been born circa 1825, and aged around 23 when he married . . . so I am hoping it is him. But I have no idea how he came to NZ or when, or where from. Please, does anyone have any advice? Thanks, Beth

From: Miss Mary Gordon, Sydney [Australia] Date: 4 March 1870 Subject: Enquiring for her uncle Bernard Gordon ORDER DETAILS » 1870 1870 Police Department [record group] Wgtn From: Superintendent Shearman, Depot Received: 26 July 1878 Subject: Missing friend Bernard Gordon is mining at Naseby, Otago ORDER DETAILS » 1878 1878 If he only came to NZ from Australia, not hugely likely to be on a passenger list. cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "aotueka via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [nz] Bernard Gordon > Thanks for all your help. Thia has given me a couple of leads. > > The HouseOfNames website info that said he arrived in Wellington in 1840 > was great, but I can't find him on any passenger list! > > The Rimutaka sailing of 1887 to London certainly supports the theory > that he left the country. > > But the 1915 death is also tantalising - BDM's say he was 90 years old, > so the age would be right. > > Rellies don't make it easy , do they? > > Beth > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Beth, seems he may not be your man. An article on Papers Past in 1899, states: "Bernard Gordon, Naseby, 69 years of age: 31 years in the Colony: Widower:-Pension of £18." Unless the "years in the Colony" is since a second visit to the Colony. Bob -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Poole via Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 9:21 PM To: 'Penne'; 'aotueka' Cc: New-Zealand-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] Bernard Gordon Hi Beth If it turns out the 1915 death is your man, then the article below may be of interest. The Bernard Gordon that Penne provided info on, who went to Naseby mining, would be the same man who died 1915, as the inquest papers indicate it was the Otago region. Also there are other Mining articles on Papers Past that mentions Bernard Gordon in that region. Someone who has access to Central Otago Burial records may be able to help, as I don't think they are indexed online. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=MIC19090 910.2.9&srpos=44&e=-------100--1----2bernard+gordon-- Cheers Bob -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Penne via Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 8:14 PM To: aotueka; NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] Bernard Gordon From: Miss Mary Gordon, Sydney [Australia] Date: 4 March 1870 Subject: Enquiring for her uncle Bernard Gordon ORDER DETAILS > 1870 1870 Police Department [record group] Wgtn From: Superintendent Shearman, Depot Received: 26 July 1878 Subject: Missing friend Bernard Gordon is mining at Naseby, Otago ORDER DETAILS > 1878 1878 If he only came to NZ from Australia, not hugely likely to be on a passenger list. cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "aotueka via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [nz] Bernard Gordon > Thanks for all your help. Thia has given me a couple of leads. > > The HouseOfNames website info that said he arrived in Wellington in > 1840 was great, but I can't find him on any passenger list! > > The Rimutaka sailing of 1887 to London certainly supports the theory > that he left the country. > > But the 1915 death is also tantalising - BDM's say he was 90 years > old, so the age would be right. > > Rellies don't make it easy , do they? > > Beth > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for all your assistance. Army records of 1940 were the clincher. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:11 PM Subject: [nz] Death notice Thomas Ormsby died 21 May 1967 > Hi everyone, > > Am looking for a newspaper artice re the death of Thomas Ormsby in 1967 > whose Will was lodged in Wellington. Was a retired hotel keeper and date > of death 21 May. > > Suspect he was born in 1876 as Thomas Ormsby Queenin (parents Ann Lynch > 1845-1880 and William Vallyfied Queenin (1845 - 1915) and changed his > surname to Ormsby by the time he married in 1921 to Ann Jane Tinney. > > Need to verify whether this name change is his. > > If so, Thomas was the grandson of Francis Ormsby Queenin who came from > Ireland and died in Auckland in 1891. > > Would appreciate any assistance > > Chris > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Beth If it turns out the 1915 death is your man, then the article below may be of interest. The Bernard Gordon that Penne provided info on, who went to Naseby mining, would be the same man who died 1915, as the inquest papers indicate it was the Otago region. Also there are other Mining articles on Papers Past that mentions Bernard Gordon in that region. Someone who has access to Central Otago Burial records may be able to help, as I don't think they are indexed online. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=MIC19090 910.2.9&srpos=44&e=-------100--1----2bernard+gordon-- Cheers Bob -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Penne via Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 8:14 PM To: aotueka; NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] Bernard Gordon From: Miss Mary Gordon, Sydney [Australia] Date: 4 March 1870 Subject: Enquiring for her uncle Bernard Gordon ORDER DETAILS > 1870 1870 Police Department [record group] Wgtn From: Superintendent Shearman, Depot Received: 26 July 1878 Subject: Missing friend Bernard Gordon is mining at Naseby, Otago ORDER DETAILS > 1878 1878 If he only came to NZ from Australia, not hugely likely to be on a passenger list. cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "aotueka via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [nz] Bernard Gordon > Thanks for all your help. Thia has given me a couple of leads. > > The HouseOfNames website info that said he arrived in Wellington in 1840 > was great, but I can't find him on any passenger list! > > The Rimutaka sailing of 1887 to London certainly supports the theory > that he left the country. > > But the 1915 death is also tantalising - BDM's say he was 90 years old, > so the age would be right. > > Rellies don't make it easy , do they? > > Beth > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for all your help. Thia has given me a couple of leads. The HouseOfNames website info that said he arrived in Wellington in 1840 was great, but I can't find him on any passenger list! The Rimutaka sailing of 1887 to London certainly supports the theory that he left the country. But the 1915 death is also tantalising - BDM's say he was 90 years old, so the age would be right. Rellies don't make it easy , do they? Beth

Just found this information This second generation lived out their days on these Waimea acres which they had worked so hard to develop. Margaret had earlier married Bernard Gordon in New Zealand, but he had returned to Scotland without her. She lived with Elizabeth at Overton until her death in 1882, when she was buried beside her parents at Fairfield. Eliza Morley died in 1897 and was buried beside William Gordon Jnr in St Alban's Churchyard Appleby, close to Bellevue. Alongside is the grave of a first cousin. Thomas Bell Smith who died while on a visit from the United States in 1888. link below http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-NHSJ06_01-t1-body1-d8.html thanks Michelle On 15/03/2015 15:11, aotueka via wrote: > Hello all. I am struggling to find any information about a relative, > and I know next to nothing about him. > > My Mr Bernard GORDON married in Nelson in 1848. He is listed as a full > age clerk from Wellington. He and his wife Margaret did not sty > together and family anecdotes have him leaving NZ. > > However, according to BDM's, a Mr Bernard Gordon died in 1915 aged 90 > years. If this is my man, he would have been born circa 1825, and aged > around 23 when he married . . . so I am hoping it is him. > > But I have no idea how he came to NZ or when, or where from. > > Please, does anyone have any advice? > > Thanks, Beth > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ [1] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com [2] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ [2] mailto:NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com

I've been given a foolscap page family tree for this couple, who were married 28 July 1828. Their children were Mary (1828), Edward (1830) and Daniel (1834). Edward landed in Australia in 1855 and to NZ in 1863. He married Laura in Dunedin, 1879 and had 4 children between 1880 & 1890- Samuel, George, Daisy and Harry. Edward died 1917 and Laura in 1926. Samueld died WW1 and a grandson George in WW2. There was a reunion in 1990. A scan or photocopy is available on request. Carol Spragg 55c Broadway Nth Stratford

Hello all. I am struggling to find any information about a relative, and I know next to nothing about him. My Mr Bernard GORDON married in Nelson in 1848. He is listed as a full age clerk from Wellington. He and his wife Margaret did not sty together and family anecdotes have him leaving NZ. However, according to BDM's, a Mr Bernard Gordon died in 1915 aged 90 years. If this is my man, he would have been born circa 1825, and aged around 23 when he married . . . so I am hoping it is him. But I have no idea how he came to NZ or when, or where from. Please, does anyone have any advice? Thanks, Beth

http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE21786556 Gives his parents names as you list them, but using the surname Ormsby. Mother nee Lynch..birthdate June 8th 1876 cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 2:11 PM Subject: [nz] Death notice Thomas Ormsby died 21 May 1967 > Hi everyone, > > Am looking for a newspaper artice re the death of Thomas Ormsby in 1967 > whose Will was lodged in Wellington. Was a retired hotel keeper and date > of death 21 May. > > Suspect he was born in 1876 as Thomas Ormsby Queenin (parents Ann Lynch > 1845-1880 and William Vallyfied Queenin (1845 - 1915) and changed his > surname to Ormsby by the time he married in 1921 to Ann Jane Tinney. > > Need to verify whether this name change is his. > > If so, Thomas was the grandson of Francis Ormsby Queenin who came from > Ireland and died in Auckland in 1891. > > Would appreciate any assistance > > Chris > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone, Am looking for a newspaper artice re the death of Thomas Ormsby in 1967 whose Will was lodged in Wellington. Was a retired hotel keeper and date of death 21 May. Suspect he was born in 1876 as Thomas Ormsby Queenin (parents Ann Lynch 1845-1880 and William Vallyfied Queenin (1845 - 1915) and changed his surname to Ormsby by the time he married in 1921 to Ann Jane Tinney. Need to verify whether this name change is his. If so, Thomas was the grandson of Francis Ormsby Queenin who came from Ireland and died in Auckland in 1891. Would appreciate any assistance Chris

Well done Allan, I think that could be a very worth while asset and would appreciate a copy please. Cheers, Graham On 15/03/2015 10:40 a.m., Allan via wrote: > Hi Folks, > > As part of 2 military projects I have completed down here I have compiled a file which includes photos of 124 Troopships that transported NZ troops to and from World War Two in Europe and the Pacific. > > The file also includes photos of 24 Navy ships that accompanied the NZ troop convoys. > > I have compiled the lists of ships names and have obtained the photos from various sources and although the list is quite large I am sure there may have been a few more that I may have missed. > > The file is 3.72 MB and in PDF format. > > Happy to email a copy to any list member interested. > > Regards > Allan > Sunny as always Waikouaiti. Settled by white fellas 175 years ago. > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Graham Jones, 139 Hokianga Road, DARGAVILLE 0310 09-439-8519

Hi Folks, As part of 2 military projects I have completed down here I have compiled a file which includes photos of 124 Troopships that transported NZ troops to and from World War Two in Europe and the Pacific. The file also includes photos of 24 Navy ships that accompanied the NZ troop convoys. I have compiled the lists of ships names and have obtained the photos from various sources and although the list is quite large I am sure there may have been a few more that I may have missed. The file is 3.72 MB and in PDF format. Happy to email a copy to any list member interested. Regards Allan Sunny as always Waikouaiti. Settled by white fellas 175 years ago.

Hello All these are the BMD's for the month published 1 October 1894 in the Lyttelton Times. do email for a newspaper copy Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ Births for the Month - 003 BOOKER - on 3 Sept. at Ashley, to wife of W.R.Booker - a son CARMICHAEL - on 14 Sept. at Loburn to wife of Charles - a son.. EVANS - on 20 Sept. at Papanui, to wife of Alfred - a son. HORWELL - on 12 Sept. to wife of Charles Horwell - a son, stillborn. LANE - on 23 Sept. at -- to wife of A.W.Lane - a daughter. MOIR - on 24 Sept. at -- to wife of Alexander Moir - a son. RAMSAY - on 15 Sept. at --- to wife of Donald Ramsay, of Cust - a son. RAYNER - on 19 Sept. at -- to wife of George L. Rayner - a daughter. RENNIE - on 3 Sept. to wife of George Rennie - a son TAYLOR - on 18 July at -- Timaru, to wife of Arthur William Taylor - a daughter. TURPIN - on 11 Sept. at -- to wife of S.W.Turpin - a son. WILKINSON - on 13 Sept. at Heathcote Valley to Mrs Edmund Wilkinson - a daughter. WITHERS - on 5 Sept. at -- to Mrs J. Theo Withers - a son. Marriages for the Month - 010 BAKER - FRIZZELL - on 19 Sept. at -- Cust James Baker, of Bennetts to Selina Jane Frizzell, West Eyreton. BRIMICOMBE - LOBB - on 20 Sept. at -- Charles, son of Mr J. Brimicombe to Kate, dau. of Mr J. Lobb, Rakaia. BUCHANAN - SAUNDERS - on 14 August, John E. Buchanan, of Ashburton to Annette, dau. of Samuel Saunders, Market Lavington, Wiltshire. BURKE - BRADLEY - on 4 Sept. at -- Patrick, son of William Burke, of Bredaugh, Galway, Ireland to Margaret Emily, dau. of Orton Guthrie Bradley, Hilton, Sth Canterbury. CLARK - ARMSTRONG - on 12 Sept. -- Henry, son of Mr J. Clark, Wellington to Martha M. dau. of Mr W.B. Armstrong. CRABTREE - WESTON - on 5 Sept. at Kaiapoi. on William Henry, son of late Henry, Pontefract, Yorkshire, to Kate, dau. of William Weston, of Kaiapoi. DUNLOP - ROLLO - on 30 August at -- Reginald Crawford, son of William Dunlop, Styx to Nellie, dau. of Mrs Janet Rollo, Irwell. ELLIS - SULLIVAN - on 28 August at Timaru, John Hornes, son of Joseph Ellis to Elizabeth Mary, dau. of John Sullivan, Lyttelton. JOYNT - MURPHY - on 19 Sept. at -- William Frederick, son of T.I.Joynt to Elizabeth, dau. of late John Terry Murphy, Bennetts. Marriages for the Month - 011 McCRACKEN - CRYSELL - on 13 Sept. at -- William, son of late Alexander McCracken to Rose Francis, dau. of Crysell -- McLEOD - HUTCHISON - on 29 Sept. at Sefton, John, son of John Mcleod to Jane, dau. of Gilbert Hutchison, MENZIES - THORPE - on 1 Sept. at -- William, son of J.H.Menzies to Gertrude Elizabeth, dau. of Ven. R.J.Thorpe, Christchurch. MOSS - GATES - on 5 Sept. at Ashburton, Herbert James, son of late Walter B. Moss to Beatrice Annie, dau. of Thomas A. Gates. PARISH - HENDRIKSEN - on 30 August at -- Alfred William, son of Isaac Parish to Clara Caroline, dau. of Christen Hendriksen. PARKER - HACK - on 15 August at -- Wanganui, John, son of Henry Parker, Waikuku to Katherine Maude, dau. of Edward Hack, farmer, Upper Riccarton. PENROSE - BROWN - on 30 August at -- Harry, son of W. Penrose, Timaru to Katie, dau. of late Robert Brown, Auckland. PITCAITHLY - HILDYARD - on 29 August at -- George, son of William Pitcaithly to Edith Mabel, dau. of William Hildyard, Lyttelton. SEAGER - DANN - on 13 Sept. Walter Seager to Cornelia, dau. of Charles George Dann --- WACKSMANN - GRIFFITHS - on 27 Sept at Linwood J.F.Wachsmann to May, dau. of late Evan Griffiths, West Oxford. WILKINSON - FLEMING - on 25 Sept. at -- R.B.Wilkinson to Mrs Thos. Fleming, both of Christchurch. WILLIAMS - CRAYTHORNE - on 23 August at -- Prebbleton, William Harry, son of Richard Williams (Wellington) to Mary Ann Elizabeth, dau. of late Charles Craythorne --- Deaths for the Month - 005 BINGHAM - Thomas, on 2 Sept. on the s.s.Maraoa, from Sydney, --- age 37 -- CLARK - Alexander, on 11 Sept. at -- Hobart, engineer, age 85, colonist of 62yrs. COLUMBUS - Edith Caroline, on 13 Sept. at -- on her 20th birthday, dau. of N. and E. COOK - George Sterndale, on 5 Sept. at -- son of William & Eliza, age 26. COSGROVE - Michael, on 8 Sept. at -- age 88. CRAIGHEAD - Alice Dora, on 4 Sept. at -- Russels Flat, dau. of James, age 18yrs. De TROY - Lucy, M.C. on 28 Sept. at -- dau. of William & Ellen, age 29. DICKEN - Edward Blythe, on 15 Sept. at Cue, Western Australia, son of Thomas, French Farm, NZ DUNS - Walter, Illman, on 2 Sept. at -- son of Charles S, & Alice, GEDDES - George, on 25 August at Mangatainoka, age 41. GRAY - George, on 21 Sept. at -- hus. of Janet MacCullum Gray, age 52, late Redcastle, Rosshire. GRIFFITHS - Harriet, on 3 Sept. at -- Kaiapoi, wife of late Evan, West Oxford, age 71. HALL - Violet Jane, on 25 Sept. at -- dau. of Sarah Jane & E. W. Hall , aged 5wks. HARDY-JOHNSTON - Thomas Masterman, on 24 Sept. at -- age 78. HARKESS - Lily Myra, on 18 Sept. at -- dau. of Walter & A.D. Harkess, age 10mths 3 weeks. HEYWARD - Robert Nethaway, on 1 Sept. at -- (late Guernsey) age 64. JACKSON - Sarah, on 5 Sept. at Halswell, wife of John, age 88. KAVANAGH - Hugh, on 1 September at his res. -- age 62. KNOTT - Harold Clive, on 4 Sept. at -- child of W.E. & Edith, age 9mths 3wks. LOGAN - Mary, on 15 Sept. at --- dau. of William & Maggie, age 16yrs. MARIN - Hannah, on 27 Sept. at Rangiora, wife of Louis, age 60. MARTIN - Mary, on 6 Sept. at -- wife of late Philip, age 81. and half on next column Deaths for the Month - 006 MARTIN - Mary, on 6 Sept. at -- wife of late Philip, age 81. and half on this column MERRITT - Orlando, on 13 Sept. at -- son of Wm. age 14 yrs. result of accident. McCLELLAND - Janet Elizabeth Gardner, on 7 Sept. wife of Stewart, of Timaru, age 34. McGREGOR - Catherine, on 4 Sept. at Akaroa, wife of A. Innes McGregor, age 51. MOOR - Sarah Jane, on 12 Sept. at Brookside, wife of Robert Moor, age 62 --- MOORE - Mary Ann, on 13 Sept. at Kaiapoi, wife of Richard, age 46 -- MUMMERY - George Alfred, on 5 Sept. ---son of George & Agnes, age 7mths. O'MALLEY - Mary, on 11 Sept. at -- dau. of Michael & Norah, age 17yrs 10mths. PARKER - Mary, on 23 Sept. at Prebbleton, age 83. PARKERSON - Emma, on 6 Sept. at -- wife of late Burrell Parkerson, formerly East Dereham, Norfolk, age 84. PATTERSON - Annie, on 5 Sept. at Hororata, dau. of Joseph & Annie, age 20. PEARCE - Richard J. on 24 Sept. at -- age 66. ROBINS - Ernest McLeod, on 23 Sept. at -- son of Frank & Jessie, age 7 and half yrs. ROBINSON - Elizabeth, on 27 Sept. at -- widow of John, Lyttelton, age 83. ROCHE - Christiana, on 12 Sept. at -- Dunsandel, age 89 --- RUNDLE - Edwin, on 13 Sept. at -- hus. of Elizabeth Ann, age 48. SALTER - Mary Ann, on 24 Sept. at -- wife of late Edward, age 75. SEED - Catherine, on 26 Sept. at Southbrook, wife of James, age 45. SHERRIN - Agnes, on 24 Sept. widow of R.A.A.Sherrin, age 44. SMELLIE - John, on 10 Sept. at -- age 59. TURPIN - Rhoda Ann, on 19 Sept. at Rangiora, wife of S.W.Turpin, age 28. WEASTELL - Jane, on 5 Sept. at -- Lyttelton, wife of Anthony, age 81. WESTON - Henry Warwick, on 17 Sept. L.L.B. NZ barrister-at-law, L.L.B. NZ ---- age 24. WHITTE - Mary, on 7 Sept. at Woodend, wife of Barnett, age 61. WOOD - Oswald Coram, on 21 Sept. at -- Wellington, son of James & Annie F. age 12yrs 1day. In Memoriam for the Month - 009 BRIGGS - Maria, d. Southbrook on 29 September 1893 --- HAWKER - George, d. 8 Sept. 1894, age 79 ----- JOHNSTON - Sergeant Allan, d. 4 September 1892 ----- THORNLEY - Eleanor, d. 15 September 1893, age 55 ----- -- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ transcriber of old newspapers. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Excellent work Graham, I too would like a copy. My uncle was killed on the "Neptune", which wasn't strictly a troop ship, I understand it was British but being passed to the NZ Navy when it encountered a minefield. I believe this was the single greatest loss of life form our Naval forces. Forgive me if I'm wrong. Do you have the lists for that aswell? Cheers, Margaret On Sunday, 15 March 2015 10:53 AM, Graham L Jones via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: Well done Allan, I think that could be a very worth while asset and would appreciate a copy please. Cheers, Graham On 15/03/2015 10:40 a.m., Allan via wrote: > Hi Folks, > > As part of 2 military projects I have completed down here I have compiled a file which includes photos of 124 Troopships that transported NZ troops to and from World War Two in Europe and the Pacific. > > The file also includes photos of 24 Navy ships that accompanied the NZ troop convoys. > > I have compiled the lists of ships names and have obtained the photos from various sources and although the list is quite large I am sure there may have been a few more that I may have missed. > > The file is 3.72 MB and in PDF format. > > Happy to email a copy to any list member interested. > > Regards > Allan > Sunny as always Waikouaiti. Settled by white fellas 175 years ago. > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Graham Jones, 139 Hokianga Road, DARGAVILLE 0310 09-439-8519 The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

P1 Anderson = slater & plasterer P2 Peter = Rope Size Maker P2 Martha = Starts with A, Antrim looks very likely Graham On 14/03/2015 4:22 p.m., Olwyn Whitehouse via wrote: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/glasgow1874.htm > > P 1 Anderson Occupation Station ? > P2 Jack; Peter Occupation Rope ? Maker > Jack; Martha Birthplace > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Graham Jones, 139 Hokianga Road, DARGAVILLE 0310 09-439-8519

That's very interesting, and a new one for me. Thanks! Mary -------------------------------------------------- From: "aotueka via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 5:27 PM To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [nz] Help with deciphering - only three items. Passenger list. > I don't agree that the occupation is ROPE + SISAL MAKER. There is no > "and", and the word is definitely too short with what looks like a Z > that drops below the line. > > I believe that natural jute ropes were soaked/coated with a mix that > essentially kept the strands together when the rope was twisted > together. This material may have been referred to as SIZE. Similar to > the SIZE that was used on house walls as a wallpaper paste. Tar was > also used as a waterproofer, and the rope was dipped in huge tar vats > after it was made. > > According to lists on the internet that describe and list old English > professions and occupations . . . > /Sizer - one who applies size (gelatinous material-glue) to textiles / > > Someone would have had to have manufactured this SIZE, so perhaps there > profession/occupation would have been ROPE SIZE MAKER. Probably not a > common occupation to have??? > > Beth > > On 14/03/2015 4:45 p.m., aotueka via wrote: >> P1 Anderson Occupation SLATER and PLASTERER >> P2 Jack, Peter Birthplace LANARKSHIRE Occupation ROPE SIZE(?) MAKER >> P2 Jack, Martha Birthplace ANTRIM >> >> Do you know what Peter's occupation was? >> >> Beth >> >> On 14/03/2015 4:22 p.m., Olwyn Whitehouse via wrote: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/glasgow1874.htm >>> >>> P 1 Anderson Occupation Station ? >>> P2 Jack; Peter Occupation Rope ? Maker >>> Jack; Martha Birthplace >>> >>> >>> The List Guidelines >>> >>> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't agree that the occupation is ROPE + SISAL MAKER. There is no "and", and the word is definitely too short with what looks like a Z that drops below the line. I believe that natural jute ropes were soaked/coated with a mix that essentially kept the strands together when the rope was twisted together. This material may have been referred to as SIZE. Similar to the SIZE that was used on house walls as a wallpaper paste. Tar was also used as a waterproofer, and the rope was dipped in huge tar vats after it was made. According to lists on the internet that describe and list old English professions and occupations . . . /Sizer - one who applies size (gelatinous material-glue) to textiles / Someone would have had to have manufactured this SIZE, so perhaps there profession/occupation would have been ROPE SIZE MAKER. Probably not a common occupation to have??? Beth On 14/03/2015 4:45 p.m., aotueka via wrote: > P1 Anderson Occupation SLATER and PLASTERER > P2 Jack, Peter Birthplace LANARKSHIRE Occupation ROPE SIZE(?) MAKER > P2 Jack, Martha Birthplace ANTRIM > > Do you know what Peter's occupation was? > > Beth > > On 14/03/2015 4:22 p.m., Olwyn Whitehouse via wrote: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/glasgow1874.htm >> >> P 1 Anderson Occupation Station ? >> P2 Jack; Peter Occupation Rope ? Maker >> Jack; Martha Birthplace >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I tried that, too, Stephen, but someone beat me to it! It's always worth looking further afield, isn't it? I often do that with Censuses. Sisal seems logical, it's probably a quirk of the writer's spelling..... Mary From: Stephen Thwaite Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 5:05 PM To: Barry and Mary Boekman ; aotueka ; new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] Help with deciphering - only three items. Passenger list. Olwyn - my suggestions - ANDERSON - slater + plasterer ? JACK P - rope + sisal maker ? JACK M - Antrim (- I scrolled on through the following pages to find something similar for another passenger.........!!) Regards Stephen //// On Saturday, 14 March 2015 4:52 PM, Barry and Mary Boekman via <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> wrote: I agree. Difficult because Antrim has been written over Lanarkshire! I could read rope size maker too. Wonder what that is? Mary -------------------------------------------------- From: "aotueka via" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 4:45 PM To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [nz] Help with deciphering - only three items. Passenger list. > P1 Anderson Occupation SLATER and PLASTERER > P2 Jack, Peter Birthplace LANARKSHIRE Occupation ROPE SIZE(?) MAKER > P2 Jack, Martha Birthplace ANTRIM > > Do you know what Peter's occupation was? > > Beth > > On 14/03/2015 4:22 p.m., Olwyn Whitehouse via wrote: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/glasgow1874.htm >> >> P 1 Anderson Occupation Station ? >> P2 Jack; Peter Occupation Rope ? Maker >> Jack; Martha Birthplace >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking for a death notice for Daisy Robson, who died In Christchurch on 6 February 1977. Please can anyone help? Many thanks Mary