Hello Try this database http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/armedconstab/armedconstabulary.html Kind Regards SEONAID On 14/11/2019, at 16:18, Bruce Holm <bruce.holm@gmail.com> wrote: Auckland library has a searchable index, as does Auckland memorial museum which is where I got my record from for an 1870's AC person Regards Bruce On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:56 Shirley Arabin, <arabin.shirley@gmail.com> wrote: there is a list somewhere. have you tried the library ? Shirley On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:28 AM <glenrod6004@xtra.co.nz> wrote: I'm trying to find service records of a relative who served in the AC Force, about 1868-73. I've tried Google but can't seem to find any database of force names. Is there something I've missed? Is there a record somewhere of those who served in the Force? _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community CAUTION: This email message and any attachments contain information that may be confidential and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this message or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error please notify us immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. We do not accept responsibility for any viruses or similar carried with our email, or any effects our email may have on the recipient computer system or network. Any views expressed in this email may be those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Council.

If you Google Timespanner and put canal in index you will get several items on the proposed canals. Noeleen. In the 1860's and 1870's (at least) there was a CANAL RESERVE at Otahuhu in Auckland. Does anyone know where exactly this reserve was located? And, is it still identifiable on a map (or Google maps)? I am guessing it was an area set aside for a future canal - that never happened?

Hi Vanessa, I don't know whether this is your man, from Ancestry; Name: Henry Boreham Birth Date: abt 1872 Death Age: 55 Death Date: 3 Jul 1927 Burial Place: Auckland, New Zealand Cemetery: Waikumete Spouse Name: Mabel Boreham Spouse Death Date: 24 Jan 1965 Regards Ray On 14/11/2019 5:12 pm, vanessateaguel wrote: > I am needing to find the death of my great grandfather Henry Boreham who was born 1873 and I know he was injured fighting at Some married to Emily Samuels 1916 london. Anything will be gratefully accepted thanking you > > > Vanessa Teague > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Hello Vanessa I found the following in the New Zealand indexes. The age fits. 1927/5402 Boreham Henry 54Y Leslea Queensland -----Original Message----- From: vanessateaguel [mailto:vanessateague@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2019 4:13 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]henry Boreham I am needing to find the death of my great grandfather Henry Boreham who was born 1873 and I know he was injured fighting at Some married to Emily Samuels 1916 london. Anything will be gratefully accepted thanking you Vanessa Teague _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Beth, The Otahuhu Historical Society should be able to help there but the canal was supposed to follow the Portage Road from what I remember from a brief mention in the historical society book (which I don’t have with me sadly) It was never built but I think it was on the books up until the 1930s. Cheers, Jason Sent from my iPad > On 14 Nov 2019, at 02:30, aotueka@xtra.co.nz wrote: > > Hello. > > In the 1860's and 1870's (at least) there was a CANAL RESERVE at Otahuhu in Auckland. > > Does anyone know where exactly this reserve was located? > > And, is it still identifiable on a map (or Google maps)? > > I am guessing it was an area set aside for a future canal - that never happened? > > > Thanks, Beth > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am needing to find the death of my great grandfather Henry Boreham who was born 1873 and I know he was injured fighting at Some married to Emily Samuels 1916 london. Anything will be gratefully accepted thanking you Vanessa Teague

Hi There was talk of 2 canals. One in New Lynn and the other in Otahuhu. Identified nowadays by the two Portage Roads. One in New Lynn the other in Otahuhu Cheers -----Original Message----- From: aotueka@xtra.co.nz Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 3:30 PM To: List - NZ Messages Subject: [nz]Canal Reserve at Otahuhu Hello. In the 1860's and 1870's (at least) there was a CANAL RESERVE at Otahuhu in Auckland. Does anyone know where exactly this reserve was located? And, is it still identifiable on a map (or Google maps)? I am guessing it was an area set aside for a future canal - that never happened? Thanks, Beth _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Auckland library has a searchable index, as does Auckland memorial museum which is where I got my record from for an 1870's AC person Regards Bruce On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:56 Shirley Arabin, <arabin.shirley@gmail.com> wrote: > there is a list somewhere. have you tried the library ? > Shirley > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:28 AM <glenrod6004@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > > I'm trying to find service records of a relative who served in the AC > > Force, > > about 1868-73. I've tried Google but can't seem to find any database of > > force names. Is there something I've missed? Is there a record somewhere > > of > > those who served in the Force? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Yes, the western portion still exists, at least in outline, although now occupied by buildings and industrial yards. There's a plaque marking its history at the eastern end. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Arabin <arabin.shirley@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2019 3:37 PM To: NEW-ZEALAND <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Canal Reserve at Otahuhu there was talk of a canal to join the Manukau to the Waitemata harbours. On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:31 PM <aotueka@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Hello. > > In the 1860's and 1870's (at least) there was a CANAL RESERVE at > Otahuhu in Auckland. > > Does anyone know where exactly this reserve was located? > > And, is it still identifiable on a map (or Google maps)? > > I am guessing it was an area set aside for a future canal - that > never happened? > > > Thanks, Beth > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

there was talk of a canal to join the Manukau to the Waitemata harbours. On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:31 PM <aotueka@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Hello. > > In the 1860's and 1870's (at least) there was a CANAL RESERVE at Otahuhu > in Auckland. > > Does anyone know where exactly this reserve was located? > > And, is it still identifiable on a map (or Google maps)? > > I am guessing it was an area set aside for a future canal - that never > happened? > > > Thanks, Beth > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hello. In the 1860's and 1870's (at least) there was a CANAL RESERVE at Otahuhu in Auckland. Does anyone know where exactly this reserve was located? And, is it still identifiable on a map (or Google maps)? I am guessing it was an area set aside for a future canal - that never happened? Thanks, Beth

there is a list somewhere. have you tried the library ? Shirley On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:28 AM <glenrod6004@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > I'm trying to find service records of a relative who served in the AC > Force, > about 1868-73. I've tried Google but can't seem to find any database of > force names. Is there something I've missed? Is there a record somewhere > of > those who served in the Force? > > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

DEFENDERS OF NEW ZEALAND AND MAORI HISTORY OF THE WAR Thomas Wayth Gudgeon 1887 "A short biography of colonists who distinguished themselves in upholding Her Majesty's supremacy in these island". Numerous portraits plans and views. Addenda has an alphabetical list of Volunteers and Militia who received the New Zealand medal 1860-1870. Chromolitho plate to frontis. Half leather binding, gilt decoration to front board, gilt decoration to spine. This is available online at www.enzb.auckland.ac.nz/document/?wid=2188&page=1&action=null _______________________ Stuart Park Kerikeri, New Zealand spark@xtra.co.nz  -----Original Message----- From: glenrod6004@xtra.co.nz <glenrod6004@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:28 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]NZ Armed Constabulary Force I'm trying to find service records of a relative who served in the AC Force, about 1868-73. I've tried Google but can't seem to find any database of force names. Is there something I've missed? Is there a record somewhere of those who served in the Force? _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I'm trying to find service records of a relative who served in the AC Force, about 1868-73. I've tried Google but can't seem to find any database of force names. Is there something I've missed? Is there a record somewhere of those who served in the Force?

Reading your email made me see red....I hope you are going further with this inquiry. The Public Trust need to stand up and paid the amount from their own funds. Do take this further. Marie On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:22 PM Sue & Evan Thomas < sueandevanthomas@gmail.com> wrote: > Don’t put too much hope on the Public Trust. I discovered that my > grandmother had left me quite a lot of money in her will when she died in > 1967 and I was 15. I was to get it when I turned 25. I discovered when I > started doing family history and got a copy of her will when I was about 35 > and contacted the Public Trust to ask why I had not been paid out when I > was 25. They said that all the records from that time had been destroyed. > I would have been easy to find, my parents still had the same address they > had in 1967. > > Regards > > Sue Thomas > > > On 11/11/2019, at 6:58 PM, Colleen Smith <ginger15@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks Shirley and Angela I will certainly follow up on things. I do > have a copy of my Dads coroners report I will dig it out and re read it in > a different frame of mind, if that makes sense. There was no will, as I > remember Public Trust being involved as when I started High School I had to > go to them to get my uniforms, bike etc. Also when we relocated I never > remember my mother paying rent so the house would have had to have been > purchased. I was 11 at the time and one of five children. My father died > in June and myself and my two younger sibling put into boarding school > (dont know where that money came from } and we were there for 6 months > before we relocated, my older siblings were placed with relatives. I am > waiting a response from Public Trust. I was surprised that there was no > will as I thought that if you were in the armed forces and posted overseas > you would have had to make one but not so back then. Bit frustrating at > times because I now live in Australia. cheers Colleen > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Angela Reynolds > > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:36 PM > > To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [nz]Re: compensation 1957 > > > > Hello Colleen > > > > That's a tricky question about compensation in 1957. I don't know the > > answer, but some ideas that may help... > > > > The Accident Compensation Corp (ACC) site has a brief timeline: > > https://www.acc.co.nz/about-us/who-we-are/our-history/ > > > > As does Te Ara - Encyclopaedia of NZ: > > https://teara.govt.nz/en/workplace-safety-and-accident-compensation > > > > And the Employment Research Guide on the Archives NZ site: > > > https://archives.govt.nz/search-the-archive/researching/research-guides/empl > > oyment > > > > The former Workers' Compensation Board came under the Department of > Labour > > and Archway has 600+ hits on "workers compensation". > > > > A bit outside your timeframe, but from the late 1960s- mid 1980s I > worked as > > a computer programmer/analyst for the government's then centralised > Computer > > Services Centre. Among many other things, that centre processed social > > welfare payments but I do not recall any system to pay workers > compensation > > through that centre. Instead, reading the above links and other info > from > > the period, it seems to me that most worker compensation payments may > have > > been paid directly by the worker's employer or the employer's insurance > > company rather than by the government. And because lawyers and court > cases > > were often involved it would seem that some workers (or their surviving > > families) fared differently from others - in other words I doubt that > prior > > to ACC being established in the 1970s, there was a standard amount paid > > across all industry sectors and all employers for loss of life. > > > > So much has been written both online and in print about workers' > > compensation that it is difficult (at this distance in time) for those > not > > directly involved in the compensation system of the time, to be able to > sort > > the wheat from the chaff. > > > > A useful contact for you might be the NZ Council of Trade Unions (NZCTU). > > If they cannot help directly, they should be able to point you in the > > direction of someone who can. Here is their directory > > > https://www.union.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NZCTU-Trade-Union-Direct > > ory-2019.pdf Rather than using a ubiquitous online contact form, I > suggest > > a good old-fashioned letter with some background information to your > query > > as this may elicit a more considered response from someone with > knowledge & > > expertise in the area. If I was you, I'd probably start by writing to > the > > NZCTU National Office, PO Box 6645, Wellington 6141 and see where that > > enquiry takes you. > > > > Also check your father's probate file (if he has one). Some probate > files > > contain a balance sheet-style summary of the assets of the deceased. If > > there was a lump sum paid to his estate by an insurer or an employer or > the > > government, then it might appear in the probate documents. I don't know > - > > but it's certainly worth a look if you haven't already done so. > > > > In a similar vein - you should be able to tell from any will, who your > > father's solicitor was. The chances are the legal practice is still in > > business today, even if it now operates under a different name. The law > > firm may still hold papers relating to your father's compensation. And > > don't forget the NZ Law Society - if you can give them a lawyer's name > and > > the name of the town, the Law Society should be able to tell you the > current > > name of the law practice concerned. > > > > Lastly, although not directly relevant to your question to the list, I > > suggest you get hold of the Coroner's Report (see the Archway site). > > Although not the same thing as a legal case for compensation, the > Coroner's > > Report may give you some general idea of the degree of culpability on the > > part of the employer. While the present ACC system is a 'no-fault' > system, > > the compensation system in 1957 would almost certainly have taken 'fault' > > into consideration when assessing the level of compensation to be paid - > > after all the insurance companies & employers would be keen to limit > their > > financial exposure! > > > > Hope this helps > > Good luck with your search > > Angela > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi All: A conference is to be held in Wellington on 13-15 February 2020 on New Zealand and World War II. The speakers (25) include Dr Jonathan Fennell of King’s College, London, an expert on British and Commonwealth armies in World War II. The venue is to be Massey University in Wellington. Email me for details of the conference (in attachments from the New Zealand Military History Committee) or write to Box 9724, Wellington 6141. The brochure has a 1939 quote from Prime Minister Michael Savage: “The war on which we are entering may be a long one, demanding from us heavy and continuous sacrifice”. New Zealand had been a critic of the British appeasement policy, speaking in support of Ethiopia and China (attacked by Italy and Japan). Yours, John Wilson

Don’t put too much hope on the Public Trust. I discovered that my grandmother had left me quite a lot of money in her will when she died in 1967 and I was 15. I was to get it when I turned 25. I discovered when I started doing family history and got a copy of her will when I was about 35 and contacted the Public Trust to ask why I had not been paid out when I was 25. They said that all the records from that time had been destroyed. I would have been easy to find, my parents still had the same address they had in 1967. Regards Sue Thomas > On 11/11/2019, at 6:58 PM, Colleen Smith <ginger15@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Thanks Shirley and Angela I will certainly follow up on things. I do have a copy of my Dads coroners report I will dig it out and re read it in a different frame of mind, if that makes sense. There was no will, as I remember Public Trust being involved as when I started High School I had to go to them to get my uniforms, bike etc. Also when we relocated I never remember my mother paying rent so the house would have had to have been purchased. I was 11 at the time and one of five children. My father died in June and myself and my two younger sibling put into boarding school (dont know where that money came from } and we were there for 6 months before we relocated, my older siblings were placed with relatives. I am waiting a response from Public Trust. I was surprised that there was no will as I thought that if you were in the armed forces and posted overseas you would have had to make one but not so back then. Bit frustrating at times because I now live in Australia. cheers Colleen > > -----Original Message----- From: Angela Reynolds > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:36 PM > To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Subject: [nz]Re: compensation 1957 > > Hello Colleen > > That's a tricky question about compensation in 1957. I don't know the > answer, but some ideas that may help... > > The Accident Compensation Corp (ACC) site has a brief timeline: > https://www.acc.co.nz/about-us/who-we-are/our-history/ > > As does Te Ara - Encyclopaedia of NZ: > https://teara.govt.nz/en/workplace-safety-and-accident-compensation > > And the Employment Research Guide on the Archives NZ site: > https://archives.govt.nz/search-the-archive/researching/research-guides/empl > oyment > > The former Workers' Compensation Board came under the Department of Labour > and Archway has 600+ hits on "workers compensation". > > A bit outside your timeframe, but from the late 1960s- mid 1980s I worked as > a computer programmer/analyst for the government's then centralised Computer > Services Centre. Among many other things, that centre processed social > welfare payments but I do not recall any system to pay workers compensation > through that centre. Instead, reading the above links and other info from > the period, it seems to me that most worker compensation payments may have > been paid directly by the worker's employer or the employer's insurance > company rather than by the government. And because lawyers and court cases > were often involved it would seem that some workers (or their surviving > families) fared differently from others - in other words I doubt that prior > to ACC being established in the 1970s, there was a standard amount paid > across all industry sectors and all employers for loss of life. > > So much has been written both online and in print about workers' > compensation that it is difficult (at this distance in time) for those not > directly involved in the compensation system of the time, to be able to sort > the wheat from the chaff. > > A useful contact for you might be the NZ Council of Trade Unions (NZCTU). > If they cannot help directly, they should be able to point you in the > direction of someone who can. Here is their directory > https://www.union.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NZCTU-Trade-Union-Direct > ory-2019.pdf Rather than using a ubiquitous online contact form, I suggest > a good old-fashioned letter with some background information to your query > as this may elicit a more considered response from someone with knowledge & > expertise in the area. If I was you, I'd probably start by writing to the > NZCTU National Office, PO Box 6645, Wellington 6141 and see where that > enquiry takes you. > > Also check your father's probate file (if he has one). Some probate files > contain a balance sheet-style summary of the assets of the deceased. If > there was a lump sum paid to his estate by an insurer or an employer or the > government, then it might appear in the probate documents. I don't know - > but it's certainly worth a look if you haven't already done so. > > In a similar vein - you should be able to tell from any will, who your > father's solicitor was. The chances are the legal practice is still in > business today, even if it now operates under a different name. The law > firm may still hold papers relating to your father's compensation. And > don't forget the NZ Law Society - if you can give them a lawyer's name and > the name of the town, the Law Society should be able to tell you the current > name of the law practice concerned. > > Lastly, although not directly relevant to your question to the list, I > suggest you get hold of the Coroner's Report (see the Archway site). > Although not the same thing as a legal case for compensation, the Coroner's > Report may give you some general idea of the degree of culpability on the > part of the employer. While the present ACC system is a 'no-fault' system, > the compensation system in 1957 would almost certainly have taken 'fault' > into consideration when assessing the level of compensation to be paid - > after all the insurance companies & employers would be keen to limit their > financial exposure! > > Hope this helps > Good luck with your search > Angela > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Shirley and Angela I will certainly follow up on things. I do have a copy of my Dads coroners report I will dig it out and re read it in a different frame of mind, if that makes sense. There was no will, as I remember Public Trust being involved as when I started High School I had to go to them to get my uniforms, bike etc. Also when we relocated I never remember my mother paying rent so the house would have had to have been purchased. I was 11 at the time and one of five children. My father died in June and myself and my two younger sibling put into boarding school (dont know where that money came from } and we were there for 6 months before we relocated, my older siblings were placed with relatives. I am waiting a response from Public Trust. I was surprised that there was no will as I thought that if you were in the armed forces and posted overseas you would have had to make one but not so back then. Bit frustrating at times because I now live in Australia. cheers Colleen -----Original Message----- From: Angela Reynolds Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:36 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Re: compensation 1957 Hello Colleen That's a tricky question about compensation in 1957. I don't know the answer, but some ideas that may help... The Accident Compensation Corp (ACC) site has a brief timeline: https://www.acc.co.nz/about-us/who-we-are/our-history/ As does Te Ara - Encyclopaedia of NZ: https://teara.govt.nz/en/workplace-safety-and-accident-compensation And the Employment Research Guide on the Archives NZ site: https://archives.govt.nz/search-the-archive/researching/research-guides/empl oyment The former Workers' Compensation Board came under the Department of Labour and Archway has 600+ hits on "workers compensation". A bit outside your timeframe, but from the late 1960s- mid 1980s I worked as a computer programmer/analyst for the government's then centralised Computer Services Centre. Among many other things, that centre processed social welfare payments but I do not recall any system to pay workers compensation through that centre. Instead, reading the above links and other info from the period, it seems to me that most worker compensation payments may have been paid directly by the worker's employer or the employer's insurance company rather than by the government. And because lawyers and court cases were often involved it would seem that some workers (or their surviving families) fared differently from others - in other words I doubt that prior to ACC being established in the 1970s, there was a standard amount paid across all industry sectors and all employers for loss of life. So much has been written both online and in print about workers' compensation that it is difficult (at this distance in time) for those not directly involved in the compensation system of the time, to be able to sort the wheat from the chaff. A useful contact for you might be the NZ Council of Trade Unions (NZCTU). If they cannot help directly, they should be able to point you in the direction of someone who can. Here is their directory https://www.union.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NZCTU-Trade-Union-Direct ory-2019.pdf Rather than using a ubiquitous online contact form, I suggest a good old-fashioned letter with some background information to your query as this may elicit a more considered response from someone with knowledge & expertise in the area. If I was you, I'd probably start by writing to the NZCTU National Office, PO Box 6645, Wellington 6141 and see where that enquiry takes you. Also check your father's probate file (if he has one). Some probate files contain a balance sheet-style summary of the assets of the deceased. If there was a lump sum paid to his estate by an insurer or an employer or the government, then it might appear in the probate documents. I don't know - but it's certainly worth a look if you haven't already done so. In a similar vein - you should be able to tell from any will, who your father's solicitor was. The chances are the legal practice is still in business today, even if it now operates under a different name. The law firm may still hold papers relating to your father's compensation. And don't forget the NZ Law Society - if you can give them a lawyer's name and the name of the town, the Law Society should be able to tell you the current name of the law practice concerned. Lastly, although not directly relevant to your question to the list, I suggest you get hold of the Coroner's Report (see the Archway site). Although not the same thing as a legal case for compensation, the Coroner's Report may give you some general idea of the degree of culpability on the part of the employer. While the present ACC system is a 'no-fault' system, the compensation system in 1957 would almost certainly have taken 'fault' into consideration when assessing the level of compensation to be paid - after all the insurance companies & employers would be keen to limit their financial exposure! Hope this helps Good luck with your search Angela _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Colleen That's a tricky question about compensation in 1957. I don't know the answer, but some ideas that may help... The Accident Compensation Corp (ACC) site has a brief timeline: https://www.acc.co.nz/about-us/who-we-are/our-history/ As does Te Ara - Encyclopaedia of NZ: https://teara.govt.nz/en/workplace-safety-and-accident-compensation And the Employment Research Guide on the Archives NZ site: https://archives.govt.nz/search-the-archive/researching/research-guides/empl oyment The former Workers' Compensation Board came under the Department of Labour and Archway has 600+ hits on "workers compensation". A bit outside your timeframe, but from the late 1960s- mid 1980s I worked as a computer programmer/analyst for the government's then centralised Computer Services Centre. Among many other things, that centre processed social welfare payments but I do not recall any system to pay workers compensation through that centre. Instead, reading the above links and other info from the period, it seems to me that most worker compensation payments may have been paid directly by the worker's employer or the employer's insurance company rather than by the government. And because lawyers and court cases were often involved it would seem that some workers (or their surviving families) fared differently from others - in other words I doubt that prior to ACC being established in the 1970s, there was a standard amount paid across all industry sectors and all employers for loss of life. So much has been written both online and in print about workers' compensation that it is difficult (at this distance in time) for those not directly involved in the compensation system of the time, to be able to sort the wheat from the chaff. A useful contact for you might be the NZ Council of Trade Unions (NZCTU). If they cannot help directly, they should be able to point you in the direction of someone who can. Here is their directory https://www.union.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NZCTU-Trade-Union-Direct ory-2019.pdf Rather than using a ubiquitous online contact form, I suggest a good old-fashioned letter with some background information to your query as this may elicit a more considered response from someone with knowledge & expertise in the area. If I was you, I'd probably start by writing to the NZCTU National Office, PO Box 6645, Wellington 6141 and see where that enquiry takes you. Also check your father's probate file (if he has one). Some probate files contain a balance sheet-style summary of the assets of the deceased. If there was a lump sum paid to his estate by an insurer or an employer or the government, then it might appear in the probate documents. I don't know - but it's certainly worth a look if you haven't already done so. In a similar vein - you should be able to tell from any will, who your father's solicitor was. The chances are the legal practice is still in business today, even if it now operates under a different name. The law firm may still hold papers relating to your father's compensation. And don't forget the NZ Law Society - if you can give them a lawyer's name and the name of the town, the Law Society should be able to tell you the current name of the law practice concerned. Lastly, although not directly relevant to your question to the list, I suggest you get hold of the Coroner's Report (see the Archway site). Although not the same thing as a legal case for compensation, the Coroner's Report may give you some general idea of the degree of culpability on the part of the employer. While the present ACC system is a 'no-fault' system, the compensation system in 1957 would almost certainly have taken 'fault' into consideration when assessing the level of compensation to be paid - after all the insurance companies & employers would be keen to limit their financial exposure! Hope this helps Good luck with your search Angela

there was Workers Compensation before ACC was set up in the 1970s. a government department so records should be in Archives NZ. try their index online is Archway so put his name in there. all archives not yet indexed so if not there telephone them. On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 2:12 PM Colleen Smith <ginger15@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi All is there any way that I can find the compensation that as paid out > as a result of a work related death in NZ back in 1957. The person killed > was my father thanks Colleen > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >