Thanks Nivard - that is what I thought. My daughter and I were having a difference of opinion. Because of the location of the No. 2 CCS I suspect it is more likely that he was wounded in the fighting around Armentieres where NZ had some 18,000 infantry in the five months from July to November. Beth > On 25 November 2019 at 23:09 Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Beth > > A Casualty clearing station was just behind the lines, just out of > artillery range > > CCS2 was at Bailleul until 1917 which is over 100 kilometres from the Somme > > So its highly unlikely anyone treated at CCS2 would have been wounded at > the Somme > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 25/11/2019 08:26, aotueka@xtra.co.nz wrote: > > Hello. > > > > If a soldier was wounded in France in November 1916 and was evacuated to the No. 2 Casualty Station, would he have been wounded at the Somme? > > > > The station seems a long way away. > > > > > > Thanks, Beth > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Beth A Casualty clearing station was just behind the lines, just out of artillery range CCS2 was at Bailleul until 1917 which is over 100 kilometres from the Somme So its highly unlikely anyone treated at CCS2 would have been wounded at the Somme Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/11/2019 08:26, aotueka@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Hello. > > If a soldier was wounded in France in November 1916 and was evacuated to the No. 2 Casualty Station, would he have been wounded at the Somme? > > The station seems a long way away. > > > Thanks, Beth

One of my Gt Uncle's was shot in the leg at The Somme, he was sent over to London to Hospital. Sadly died, was expected to survive. he was with the Canadian Infantry, as was living in Canada, but originally from Gillingham. Kent.. where he is buried. He was brother to my grandmother on Dad's side. We believe he was nursed by his sister, my Nana as we called her years later, she was a Nurse. Where was the No. Casualty Station please.. Adele Clareville

Is Philip Lascelles still on this list please, worked on Sundays at Auckland War Memorial Museum, would like to be in contact with him again re family (Haxton. Kemp. Lascelles) thanks.. Adele Clareville.

Love to know this answer also thanks. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: aotueka@xtra.co.nz <aotueka@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 6:26:12 PM To: List - NZ Messages <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Subject: [nz][EXTERNAL] Soldier wounded in France November 1916 Hello. If a soldier was wounded in France in November 1916 and was evacuated to the No. 2 Casualty Station, would he have been wounded at the Somme? The station seems a long way away. Thanks, Beth _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnew-zealand-l.blogspot.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cccb4eda647a840353de508d771812f92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637102671975238280&amp;sdata=1%2FYrV3%2FZD7%2Bam1tREOY%2FAOGEQhg7f8dyzaVEbMe7IIs%3D&amp;reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cccb4eda647a840353de508d771812f92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637102671975238280&amp;sdata=vfnEWmog6ODeg8mHG9lkCrMKNaLTVaAOEVdeyo3HjlI%3D&amp;reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fnew-zealand%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cccb4eda647a840353de508d771812f92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637102671975238280&amp;sdata=jQe29g34hCfLJU9PoccomUt54gHVBiNZ6UxRFHgkDKI%3D&amp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cccb4eda647a840353de508d771812f92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637102671975238280&amp;sdata=b%2BR4SFSsifj3JWaGVn5NcXXjmXteuLHhqjG%2FiLECCb0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cccb4eda647a840353de508d771812f92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637102671975238280&amp;sdata=kY%2FAgW15%2FJhBqKT%2F4kTW2vZJh%2FK%2FAHzi0Koi4ZpETk4%3D&amp;reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cccb4eda647a840353de508d771812f92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637102671975238280&amp;sdata=0kQNxtley77waEKoUmo6D6y0Wa3poU3sMIdoG8DGKu8%3D&amp;reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello. If a soldier was wounded in France in November 1916 and was evacuated to the No. 2 Casualty Station, would he have been wounded at the Somme? The station seems a long way away. Thanks, Beth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Barracks <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Barracks> Early records exist only in baptism registers (particularly the Anglican church of St Paul’s) Pearl’s Pad may still be an operational web site that lists many. Symonds Street Cemetery is certainly where they would have been buried. The Symonds Street records on the Auckland Public Library site are extensive. Jools On 24 Nov 2019, at 10:03 pm, new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com wrote: 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Auckland Barracks (Chris Kealy) 2. Re: [EXTERNAL] Auckland Barracks (Chris Kealy)

Angela, here is a link to the archives which are held by the Methodist church. http://www.methodist.org.nz/files/docs/mcnz%20admin%20office/archives/2018/fact%20sheet%20-%20wesleyan%20missionary%20registers.pdf Chris in Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Angela Reed via NEW-ZEALAND [mailto:new-zealand@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:09 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Cc: gilliedog@aol.com Subject: [nz][EXTERNAL] Auckland Barracks Hi Beth, I have a family member who was born in the Auckland Barracks William Short b. 26 March 1863. I too would love to learn more about the Barracks. He was baptized in the Wesleyan Church in High Street, Auckland 5 April 1863 - Can anyone tell me if its possible to get a copy of the baptismal record from the Wesleyan Church please? Thank you Angela 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Regimental deaths at Albert Barracks in the 1850's (Brian & Bobbie Amyes) Hi Beth and List, I was interested if anyone had more information about the Barracks. As they feature in several stories about the Rogers. Beth's ancestor, Jane Moran / Kevey / Roger's 1st husband, Henry Kevey died in 1863 and so had left the army by then. [Their first NZ child was born at the Barracks] I have just checked Henry Kevey's probate on Family Search and found he died at the Auckland Hospital. He had been a shopkeeper in Coromandel. Jane's mother-in-law from her second marriage to Edward Rogers was Mary Simmons / Edwards / Argall and she died at the Auckland Hospital in 1860. However Edward's brother Thomas Rogers featured in the papers because one of his coaches killed a child when the coach moved forward and the child got trapped under the wheel. Apparently this was by the Barracks and they rushed to get a doctor from there...so was there a Barrack's Hospital and a separate Colonial Hospital? Love to know more about that Cheers Bobbie And as to Beth's question, presumably folk were buried in Symonds Street Cemetery???...Henry Rogers who died in 1845 aged 14 was buried ther > On 22 November 2019 at 13:57 aotueka@xtra.co.nz mailto:aotueka@xtra.co.nz wrote: > > > Hello - does anyone know what happened to those soldiers who died at the Albert Barracks in Auckland during the 1850's? > > Were they buried somewhere within the barrack walls, or in a cemetery outside the walls? > > > Also, was there a regimental hospital at the barracks, or did they rely on what would become the Auckland Hospital where hospitalisation was required? > > > Many thanks, Beth > > _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Beth and others, your post has opened up much interest. I have a family member who was born in Auckland Barracks and baptised in St Patrick's cathedral when she was 6 days old. One of her baptismal sponsors was a private in my relative's regiment. Her name was Ellen Lynch b 30 Jan 1848. I have been unable to find her birth registration. I had every success in obtaining a record from Catholic Archives and hope you succeed as well, Angela. Chris in Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Angela Reed via NEW-ZEALAND [mailto:new-zealand@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:09 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Cc: gilliedog@aol.com Subject: [nz][EXTERNAL] Auckland Barracks Hi Beth, I have a family member who was born in the Auckland Barracks William Short b. 26 March 1863. I too would love to learn more about the Barracks. He was baptized in the Wesleyan Church in High Street, Auckland 5 April 1863 - Can anyone tell me if its possible to get a copy of the baptismal record from the Wesleyan Church please? Thank you Angela 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Regimental deaths at Albert Barracks in the 1850's (Brian & Bobbie Amyes) Hi Beth and List, I was interested if anyone had more information about the Barracks. As they feature in several stories about the Rogers. Beth's ancestor, Jane Moran / Kevey / Roger's 1st husband, Henry Kevey died in 1863 and so had left the army by then. [Their first NZ child was born at the Barracks] I have just checked Henry Kevey's probate on Family Search and found he died at the Auckland Hospital. He had been a shopkeeper in Coromandel. Jane's mother-in-law from her second marriage to Edward Rogers was Mary Simmons / Edwards / Argall and she died at the Auckland Hospital in 1860. However Edward's brother Thomas Rogers featured in the papers because one of his coaches killed a child when the coach moved forward and the child got trapped under the wheel. Apparently this was by the Barracks and they rushed to get a doctor from there...so was there a Barrack's Hospital and a separate Colonial Hospital? Love to know more about that Cheers Bobbie And as to Beth's question, presumably folk were buried in Symonds Street Cemetery???...Henry Rogers who died in 1845 aged 14 was buried ther > On 22 November 2019 at 13:57 aotueka@xtra.co.nz mailto:aotueka@xtra.co.nz wrote: > > > Hello - does anyone know what happened to those soldiers who died at the Albert Barracks in Auckland during the 1850's? > > Were they buried somewhere within the barrack walls, or in a cemetery outside the walls? > > > Also, was there a regimental hospital at the barracks, or did they rely on what would become the Auckland Hospital where hospitalisation was required? > > > Many thanks, Beth > > _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Further to my previous request, for those who are interested - I now know for certain that there WAS a military hospital within the walls of the Albert Barracks. The building was purpose built and completed in mid-late 1847- a rectangular structure some 44 feet by 23 feet, built using Maori labour with scoria taken from a quarry on Mt Eden. The cost was estimated to be just under £1300, and contained 3 general wards, and eye ward, sergeant's room, nurse's room, kitchen, and cellar. It seems such a shame that the building is no longer standing. So far I have not found any mention of burial sites for soldiers who died at the barracks as yet - not in the time period I am looking for at any rate. Beth -------- Original Message ---------- From: aotueka@xtra.co.nz To: List - NZ Messages <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Date: 22 November 2019 at 20:26 Subject: Regimental deaths at Albert Barracks in the 1850's medicine store, surgery, Hello - does anyone know what happened to those soldiers who died at the Albert Barracks in Auckland during the 1850's? Were they buried somewhere within the barrack walls, or in a cemetery outside the walls? Also, was there a regimental hospital at the barracks, or did they rely on what would become the Auckland Hospital where hospitalisation was required? Many thanks, Beth

We're finishing our year off with a busy day of events on Wednesday 27 November 12noon-3pm: Visiting UK genealogist, Sylvia Valentine and an afternoon of family history topics 6pm-7.30pm: Presented by NZ Antarctic Society - 40 years on: Remembering the Mt Erebus disaster with Nigel Roberts An afternoon with UK family historian Sylvia Valentine Wednesday, 27 November 12noon-3pm Whare Wānanga, Level 2, Central City Library Topics we will cover will be: *Researching Workhouse Records in England and Wales *The Dawson Orphans - From the Workhouse to Oxford University *Smallpox Vaccination Records for Family History. *Researching Workhouse Records in England and Wales Workhouse records are more than the admission or discharge of a pauper ancestor. The Poor Law Amendment Act of 1834 created a bureaucratic system across England and Wales to manage local poor law unions, and while not all records have survived, those that have frequently name individuals with a connection to the workhouse. These include suppliers of foodstuffs and clothing, and services such as dentistry. Your ancestor might have been a workhouse employee or one who oversaw daily management. Sylvia explains the records you might be able to find, from absconding parents to apprentice and smallpox vaccination records. *The Dawson Orphans - From the Workhouse to Oxford University Starting with a letter discovered in a workhouse letter book, Sylvia set out to research the story of the five Dawson orphans born in the early nineteenth century. This talk shows how a researcher can use a variety of resources to put together a family history, and how she has pieced the Dawson’s story together using more than twenty-five resources. Spoiler alert! Sadly, there are no happy endings for the brothers. *Smallpox Vaccination Records for Family History. Smallpox vaccination records might seem an unlikely source for family historians but, where they have survived, they might just help you break through that 'brick wall'. This presentation discusses the history of smallpox vaccination, resistance to compulsory vaccination, and suggestions for locating any records, primarily within England and Wales. Speaker biography Sylvia Valentine is a UK based researcher and has been researching her own family history for almost 40 years. After retiring from a 30-year career working in the charity sector, she became a student of the University of Dundee, and graduated in 2016 with a Master of Letters degree in Family and Local History. She is now a doctoral candidate researching Opposition to Compulsory Smallpox Vaccination in Scotland in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. She owns her own research company, Recover Your Roots, researching particularly in northern England and Scotland. Her specialist area of interest are the records created by the Poor Law Amendment Act 1834 - and compulsory smallpox vaccination. Sylvia is an Honorary Teaching Fellow of the University of Dundee and delivers their online family history courses. She is also the Doctoral Fellow 2019 for the Centre for Scottish Studies. She is a Director of the Register of Qualified Genealogists, (RQG) a member of the Association of Scottish Genealogists and Researchers in Archives, (ASGRA) and is an Associate member of the Association and Genealogists and Researchers in Archives (AGRA). Visit her website for more, and check out her Twitter: @historylady2013 This is bound to be a popular afternoon of events, so booking is recommended. To book please phone Research Central on 09 890 2412 or book online. https://www.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/pages/event.aspx?eventid=7777 ---------------------------------------------- 40 years on: Remembering the Mt Erebus disaster with Nigel Roberts Presented by the New Zealand Antarctic Society Wednesday, 27 November 6pm-7.30pm Whare Wānanga, Level 2, Central City Library In the summer of 1979-1980, Nigel Roberts spent four months at Scott Base on Ross Island as Information Officer/photographer. Here he shares his memories of that fateful day in Antarctica in this talk presented by the New Zealand Antarctic Society. On the morning of 28 November 1979, Air New Zealand Flight TE901 left Auckland, for an 11-hour return sightseeing flight to Antarctica. At 12.49pm NZST, the aircraft crashed into the lower slopes of Mt Erebus, Ross Island, Antarctica, killing all 237 passengers and 20 crew on board. It remains the worst civil disaster in New Zealand's history. In the summer of 1979-1980, Nigel Roberts spent four months at Scott Base on Ross Island as Information Officer / Photographer. Here he shares his memories of that fateful day in Antarctica. About Nigel Roberts Emeritus Professor Nigel Roberts taught political science for many years, first at the University of Canterbury and then at Victoria University of Wellington, and he was the face of TVNZ’s election night coverage for numerous general elections. He is the author of multiple publications. About the New Zealand Antarctic Society The New Zealand Antarctic Society brings people interested in the Antarctic region together to share their knowledge with others, to foster interest in the region, and to seek and support the protection of the Antarctic environment. To book please phone Research Central on 09 890 2412 or book online. https://www.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/pages/event.aspx?eventid=8577 Programme starts again on Wednesday 29 January 2020 with Michelle Patient and “Kick-start your family history research” Ngā mihi | Kind regards - Seonaid Seonaid (Shona) Lewis RLIANZA BA ILS DipRIM | Senior research librarian, family history (Mon-Fri) Te Kohinga Rangahau mō Tāmaki Makaurau | Research Central Tāmaki Pātaka Kōrero - Central City Library Ngā Pātaka Kōrero o Tāmaki Makaurau - Auckland Libraries Phone 09 890 2411 | Extn (46) 2411 Auckland Council, 44-46 Lorne Street, Auckland Twitter: @Kintalk Facebook: Auckland Research Centre<https://www.facebook.com/AkldResearchCentre/?ref=settings> Come along to our FREE lunchtime HeritageTalks<https://www.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/pages/search-results.aspx?k=HeritageTalks> fortnightly on Wednesdays between February and November Subscribe to Central Library’s events newsletters by emailing centrallibraryevents@aucklandcouncil.govt.nz<mailto:centrallibraryevents@aucklandcouncil.govt.nz> Kura Heritage Collections Online is now live! 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We're finishing our year off with a busy day of events on Wednesday 27 November 12noon-3pm: Visiting UK genealogist, Sylvia Valentine and an afternoon of family history topics 6pm-7.30pm: Presented by NZ Antarctic Society - 40 years on: Remembering the Mt Erebus disaster with Nigel Roberts An afternoon with UK family historian Sylvia Valentine Wednesday, 27 November 12noon-3pm Whare Wānanga, Level 2, Central City Library Topics we will cover will be: *Researching Workhouse Records in England and Wales *The Dawson Orphans - From the Workhouse to Oxford University *Smallpox Vaccination Records for Family History. *Researching Workhouse Records in England and Wales Workhouse records are more than the admission or discharge of a pauper ancestor. The Poor Law Amendment Act of 1834 created a bureaucratic system across England and Wales to manage local poor law unions, and while not all records have survived, those that have frequently name individuals with a connection to the workhouse. These include suppliers of foodstuffs and clothing, and services such as dentistry. Your ancestor might have been a workhouse employee or one who oversaw daily management. Sylvia explains the records you might be able to find, from absconding parents to apprentice and smallpox vaccination records. *The Dawson Orphans - From the Workhouse to Oxford University Starting with a letter discovered in a workhouse letter book, Sylvia set out to research the story of the five Dawson orphans born in the early nineteenth century. This talk shows how a researcher can use a variety of resources to put together a family history, and how she has pieced the Dawson’s story together using more than twenty-five resources. Spoiler alert! Sadly, there are no happy endings for the brothers. *Smallpox Vaccination Records for Family History. Smallpox vaccination records might seem an unlikely source for family historians but, where they have survived, they might just help you break through that 'brick wall'. This presentation discusses the history of smallpox vaccination, resistance to compulsory vaccination, and suggestions for locating any records, primarily within England and Wales. Speaker biography Sylvia Valentine is a UK based researcher and has been researching her own family history for almost 40 years. After retiring from a 30-year career working in the charity sector, she became a student of the University of Dundee, and graduated in 2016 with a Master of Letters degree in Family and Local History. She is now a doctoral candidate researching Opposition to Compulsory Smallpox Vaccination in Scotland in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. She owns her own research company, Recover Your Roots, researching particularly in northern England and Scotland. Her specialist area of interest are the records created by the Poor Law Amendment Act 1834 - and compulsory smallpox vaccination. Sylvia is an Honorary Teaching Fellow of the University of Dundee and delivers their online family history courses. She is also the Doctoral Fellow 2019 for the Centre for Scottish Studies. She is a Director of the Register of Qualified Genealogists, (RQG) a member of the Association of Scottish Genealogists and Researchers in Archives, (ASGRA) and is an Associate member of the Association and Genealogists and Researchers in Archives (AGRA). Visit her website for more, and check out her Twitter: @historylady2013 This is bound to be a popular afternoon of events, so booking is recommended. To book please phone Research Central on 09 890 2412 or book online. https://www.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/pages/event.aspx?eventid=7777 ---------------------------------------------- 40 years on: Remembering the Mt Erebus disaster with Nigel Roberts Presented by the New Zealand Antarctic Society Wednesday, 27 November 6pm-7.30pm Whare Wānanga, Level 2, Central City Library In the summer of 1979-1980, Nigel Roberts spent four months at Scott Base on Ross Island as Information Officer/photographer. Here he shares his memories of that fateful day in Antarctica in this talk presented by the New Zealand Antarctic Society. On the morning of 28 November 1979, Air New Zealand Flight TE901 left Auckland, for an 11-hour return sightseeing flight to Antarctica. At 12.49pm NZST, the aircraft crashed into the lower slopes of Mt Erebus, Ross Island, Antarctica, killing all 237 passengers and 20 crew on board. It remains the worst civil disaster in New Zealand's history. In the summer of 1979-1980, Nigel Roberts spent four months at Scott Base on Ross Island as Information Officer / Photographer. Here he shares his memories of that fateful day in Antarctica. About Nigel Roberts Emeritus Professor Nigel Roberts taught political science for many years, first at the University of Canterbury and then at Victoria University of Wellington, and he was the face of TVNZ’s election night coverage for numerous general elections. He is the author of multiple publications. About the New Zealand Antarctic Society The New Zealand Antarctic Society brings people interested in the Antarctic region together to share their knowledge with others, to foster interest in the region, and to seek and support the protection of the Antarctic environment. To book please phone Research Central on 09 890 2412 or book online. https://www.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/pages/event.aspx?eventid=8577 Programme starts again on Wednesday 29 January 2020 with Michelle Patient and “Kick-start your family history research” Ngā mihi | Kind regards - Seonaid Seonaid (Shona) Lewis RLIANZA BA ILS DipRIM | Senior research librarian, family history (Mon-Fri) Te Kohinga Rangahau mō Tāmaki Makaurau | Research Central Tāmaki Pātaka Kōrero - Central City Library Ngā Pātaka Kōrero o Tāmaki Makaurau - Auckland Libraries Phone 09 890 2411 | Extn (46) 2411 Auckland Council, 44-46 Lorne Street, Auckland Twitter: @Kintalk Facebook: Auckland Research Centre<https://www.facebook.com/AkldResearchCentre/?ref=settings> Come along to our FREE lunchtime HeritageTalks<https://www.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/pages/search-results.aspx?k=HeritageTalks> fortnightly on Wednesdays between February and November Subscribe to Central Library’s events newsletters by emailing centrallibraryevents@aucklandcouncil.govt.nz<mailto:centrallibraryevents@aucklandcouncil.govt.nz> Kura Heritage Collections Online is now live! 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Hi Beth, I have a family member who was born in the Auckland Barracks William Short b. 26 March 1863.  I too would love to learn more about the Barracks.  He was baptized in the Wesleyan Church in High Street, Auckland 5 April 1863 - Can anyone tell me if its possible to get a copy of the baptismal record from the Wesleyan Church please? Thank you Angela   1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Regimental deaths at Albert Barracks in the 1850's       (Brian & Bobbie Amyes) Hi Beth and List, I was interested if anyone had more information about the Barracks. As they feature in several stories about the Rogers. Beth's ancestor, Jane Moran / Kevey / Roger's 1st husband, Henry Kevey died in 1863 and so had left the army by then. [Their first NZ child was born at the Barracks] I have just checked Henry Kevey's probate on Family Search and found he died at the Auckland Hospital. He had been a shopkeeper in Coromandel. Jane's mother-in-law from her second marriage to Edward Rogers was Mary Simmons / Edwards / Argall and she died at the Auckland Hospital in 1860. However Edward's brother Thomas Rogers featured in the papers because one of his coaches killed a child when the coach moved forward and the child got trapped under the wheel. Apparently this was by the Barracks and they rushed to get a doctor from there...so was there a Barrack's Hospital and a separate Colonial Hospital? Love to know more about that Cheers Bobbie And as to Beth's question, presumably folk were buried in Symonds Street Cemetery???...Henry Rogers who died in 1845 aged 14 was buried ther > On 22 November 2019 at 13:57 aotueka@xtra.co.nz mailto:aotueka@xtra.co.nz wrote: > > >    Hello - does anyone know what happened to those soldiers who died at the Albert Barracks in Auckland during the 1850's? > >    Were they buried somewhere within the barrack walls, or in a cemetery outside the walls? > > >    Also, was there a regimental hospital at the barracks, or did they rely on what would become the Auckland Hospital where hospitalisation was required? > > >    Many thanks, Beth > > 

Hi Beth and List, I was interested if anyone had more information about the Barracks. As they feature in several stories about the Rogers. Beth's ancestor, Jane Moran / Kevey / Roger's 1st husband, Henry Kevey died in 1863 and so had left the army by then. [Their first NZ child was born at the Barracks] I have just checked Henry Kevey's probate on Family Search and found he died at the Auckland Hospital. He had been a shopkeeper in Coromandel. Jane's mother-in-law from her second marriage to Edward Rogers was Mary Simmons / Edwards / Argall and she died at the Auckland Hospital in 1860. However Edward's brother Thomas Rogers featured in the papers because one of his coaches killed a child when the coach moved forward and the child got trapped under the wheel. Apparently this was by the Barracks and they rushed to get a doctor from there...so was there a Barrack's Hospital and a separate Colonial Hospital? Love to know more about that Cheers Bobbie And as to Beth's question, presumably folk were buried in Symonds Street Cemetery???...Henry Rogers who died in 1845 aged 14 was buried ther > On 22 November 2019 at 13:57 aotueka@xtra.co.nz mailto:aotueka@xtra.co.nz wrote: > > > Hello - does anyone know what happened to those soldiers who died at the Albert Barracks in Auckland during the 1850's? > > Were they buried somewhere within the barrack walls, or in a cemetery outside the walls? > > > Also, was there a regimental hospital at the barracks, or did they rely on what would become the Auckland Hospital where hospitalisation was required? > > > Many thanks, Beth > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

???? On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 15:15, eco day <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> wrote: > > https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117352236/white-silence-film-captures-last-images-of-passengers-before-erebus-crash > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > Shona, just found this, via google. > Jenelle. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

???? On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 16:38, eco day <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> wrote: > https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=226541 > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > This may help other research into the Erebus disaster… > Jenelle. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thank you! On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 15:47, <spark@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Well done, glad you got there. Lest we forget. > > _______________________ > Stuart Park > Kerikeri, New Zealand > spark@xtra.co.nz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shona Young <sbak50@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 5:21 PM > To: NZ List <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [nz]Re: [EXTERNAL] Erebus passenger when death recorded > > I think I've found her...did a search for a name that rings a bell, name of > a family I know to have been friends, then Napier, where I was born and > where my family lived. Sometimes it just takes time and persistence, and > great to know my memory hasn't failed me....yet! > > Margaret Joyce (Peg) McKenzie (sometimes spelt MacKenzie) > > https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/erebus-disaster-memorial-auckland-airp > ort > > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 15:15, Shona Young <sbak50@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Jenelle, > > Problem is I don't have her name. I did some searches on NZ BDM with > > some of the names and found that some registered in 1980 and some > > 1979. Some have incorrect spelling as well. So, your tip about > > inquests is useful, thanks for that. > > Yes, have been googling all day, still not finding what I want. I'm > > sure there is a photo of her back in NZ, could have a name on it, but > > that is back in NZ and only I would recognise it! > > Thanks again > > > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 15:07, Jenelle McCarrick > > <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> > > wrote: > > > >> Shona have been doing some research on this recently, a google would > >> probably give you what you want, they would have listed the > >> passengers not retrieved and those bodies retrieved, they probably > >> would have recorded the death after a Coroner's Inquest... > >> Have you tried a google on her name at all? > >> National library of new Zealand? > >> There is a Memorial to this disaster on line. > >> Jenelle. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Shona Young [mailto:sbak50@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:31 PM > >> To: NZ List > >> Subject: [nz][EXTERNAL] Erebus passenger when death recorded > >> > >> Hi, > >> Trying to find the name of a friend of my mother's who was killed in > >> the Erebus disaster. I have a memory that she may have been my > godmother. > >> My mother is now deceased and was considering going on that flight, > >> but decided against it. > >> When would the death date been recorded..when the plane crashed, or > later? > >> And would there be anywhere online (live in Aus) where more detailed > >> information on the passengers? > >> I do know she was retiring, and had been given the flight as a > >> retirement present from the company, and the company may have been > AirNZ. > >> Many thanks > >> Shona (smokey NSW) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> The List Guidelines > >> > >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > >> RootsWeb community > >> > >> -- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >> https://www.avg.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> The List Guidelines > >> > >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > >> RootsWeb community > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=226541 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 This may help other research into the Erebus disaster… Jenelle.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:1979_AirNZ_Flight_901_(Mt_Erebus) Sent from Mail for Windows 10 This link may help others researching Erebus…passengers. Jenelle.

Ok Shona. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: Shona Young [mailto:sbak50@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 2:21 PM To: NZ List Subject: [nz]Re: [EXTERNAL] Erebus passenger when death recorded I think I've found her...did a search for a name that rings a bell, name of a family I know to have been friends, then Napier, where I was born and where my family lived. Sometimes it just takes time and persistence, and great to know my memory hasn't failed me....yet! Margaret Joyce (Peg) McKenzie (sometimes spelt MacKenzie) https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/erebus-disaster-memorial-auckland-airp ort On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 15:15, Shona Young <sbak50@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jenelle, > Problem is I don't have her name. I did some searches on NZ BDM with some > of the names and found that some registered in 1980 and some 1979. Some > have incorrect spelling as well. So, your tip about inquests is useful, > thanks for that. > Yes, have been googling all day, still not finding what I want. I'm sure > there is a photo of her back in NZ, could have a name on it, but that is > back in NZ and only I would recognise it! > Thanks again > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 15:07, Jenelle McCarrick <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> > wrote: > >> Shona have been doing some research on this recently, a google would >> probably give you what you want, they would have listed the passengers not >> retrieved and those bodies retrieved, they probably would have recorded >> the >> death after a Coroner's Inquest... >> Have you tried a google on her name at all? >> National library of new Zealand? >> There is a Memorial to this disaster on line. >> Jenelle. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Shona Young [mailto:sbak50@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:31 PM >> To: NZ List >> Subject: [nz][EXTERNAL] Erebus passenger when death recorded >> >> Hi, >> Trying to find the name of a friend of my mother's who was killed in the >> Erebus disaster. I have a memory that she may have been my godmother. >> My mother is now deceased and was considering going on that flight, but >> decided against it. >> When would the death date been recorded..when the plane crashed, or later? >> And would there be anywhere online (live in Aus) where more detailed >> information on the passengers? >> I do know she was retiring, and had been given the flight as a retirement >> present from the company, and the company may have been AirNZ. >> Many thanks >> Shona (smokey NSW) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >> -- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com