Hi Annette... Your Subject line alludes to there being a Will at Wellington Archives... This maybe incorrect as it seems that the Matilda DAVIDSON who died 27/8/1936, aged 80, died Intestate. The document at Wgtn. Archives may tell you who "Letters of Administration" were granted to. You haven't told us your Gt. Grandmothers married name and I am assuming this name, DAVIDSON, may have been her maiden name as this person appears to be a spinster... Whereas there is another Matilda DAVIDSON who died 6/5/1927, a widow, who left a Will which is at Wgtn. Archives also, along with Probate doc. This Matilda DAVIDSON's maiden name may have been ROGER..? The Matilda DAVIDSON who died 1936 may have married a James LLOYD, 1879, and possibly had reverted back to her maiden name at the time of her death? I don't have any connection to any of the above... Hilton Doidge Waikato Could some kind soul who is going to Archives please have a look at the following for me. I am looking for my Gt. Grandmother who had left her husband sometime between 1900 and 1907 and I am wondering if she reverted to her maiden name. Thanks in advance Annette Name: DAVIDSON Matilda Title Years DAVIDSON Matilda (R23115507) 1936 - 1936 Additional archives description Auckland - Spinster Item ID Agency Series Accession Record group Box / Item Sep Record no. Part Alternative no. Record type R23115507 AAOM 6029 877 / 59704 Text

Cynthia, have you seen this site? http://www.gdc.govt.nz/online-cemetery-record-search/ There are some photos, although I'm not sure if all graves have been photographed. Jeanette > Wanting to know if there are images available of gravestones, or someone > willing to take a photo from Makaraka cemetery, Gisborne for me please. > Willing to do the same in return for South Canterbury area. > >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Wanting to know if there are images available of gravestones, or someone willing to take a photo from Makaraka cemetery, Gisborne for me please. Willing to do the same in return for South Canterbury area. cheers Cynthia

Thank you to all listers who provided me with information about the St Kilda Nursing Home. Bryan Curran

Patsy I had a quick google - The Christchurch Library site has the following info - father IVOR, schoolteacher and later headmaster at Cashmere School mother PHYLLIS AND wife VERITY daughter BEVERLY, son DAVID, 4 grandchildren Stephen //// ________________________________ From: Patsy <patsym@inet.net.nz> To: Stephen Thwaite <thwaite@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Monday, 10 March 2014 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Sir Bob Charles - On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:46:48 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >...why not go for the birth certificate - b in 1936, Carterton costs money Stephen something that's in short supply.. If cant find out any other way will flag it.

Sorry should have sent this to the forum Hi Patsy Goggled and found this Website is http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/kids/famousnewzealanders/bobcharles.asp Bob Charles •Born in the small town of Carterton on March 14th 1936. •Ivor, his father was a school teacher at the Hinekura Area School in the Wairarapa and then later was headmaster at Cashmere School in Christchurch. •Phyllis his mother comes from Martinborough. •Both parents were keen and talented golfers. •Played rugby and cricket in his youth at school. •Was a bank clerk before playing golf professionally. Professional Life •At the age of 16 Entered his first golf tournament the Wairarapa Mixed Foursomes with his mother in 1951 - and was beaten in the final. •In 1954 at the age of 18 years old he won the New Zealand Open — an amazing feat considering that he had never had a professional golf lesson. •Biggest career highlight was winning the prestigious British Open in 1963, at the Royal Lytham and St Annes Golf Course in Lancashire. He remains the only left-handed golfer in the world to have achieved this. He is the only New Zealander to have won this prestigious tournament, and the first to have won a major golf tournament. •Continues to play professional golf on the Senior PGA tour and other tournaments. •Played in the 2004 New Zealand Golf Open (Jan 15-18, 2004) for the last time but failed to make the cut (did not score well enough to win a place in the final round). Other information •Married his wife Verity in 1963 and has a daughter Beverly (born 22 nd January 1966) and a son David (born 29th August 1968). •Has four grandchildren. •Current places of residence are Florida, USA and Oxford, Canterbury NZ. Sources •Bob Charles by Margot Butcher in North and South magazine, March 1998 •Sir Bob Won't Cry Alone by Kevin Tutty in The Press, Jan 10, 2004 F8 Cheers Paul -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 10/3/14, Ray Rob <rayrobt@hotmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [nz] Sir Bob Charles To: "Patsy" <patsym@inet.net.nz> Cc: "New Zealand Forum" <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Received: Monday, 10 March, 2014, 8:51 AM Hi Patsy , As he was born in Carterton (1936) , I think we can count on Adele to get on to this assignment ... 'Come in please , Adele' OTY Ray On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Patsy <patsym@inet.net.nz> wrote: > Hi listers > Does anyone know who his parents were?? Have an inkling he may be > related to my daughter in laws family but would need to know his > parents names Cant find anything onlilne about his family line. > thanks > Patsy > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

....why not go for the birth certificate - b in 1936, Carterton Stephen //// ________________________________ From: Patsy <patsym@inet.net.nz> To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 10 March 2014 8:10 AM Subject: [nz] Sir Bob Charles Hi listers Does anyone know who his parents were?? Have an inkling he may be related to my daughter in laws family but would need to know his parents names Cant find anything onlilne about his family line. thanks Patsy

Could some kind soul who is going to Archives please have a look at the following for me. I am looking for my Gt. Grandmother who had left her husband sometime between 1900 and 1907 and I am wondering if she reverted to her maiden name. Thanks in advance Annette Name: DAVIDSON Matilda Title Years DAVIDSON Matilda (R23115507) 1936 - 1936 Additional archives description Auckland - Spinster Item ID Agency Series Accession Record group Box / Item Sep Record no. Part Alternative no. Record type R23115507 AAOM 6029 877 / 59704 Text

Hoping there is someone able to scan me a death notice (cousin) from todays Otago Daily Times please. Many thanks Jenny

Hi Listers firstly a big thank you to Dave MacKinven who found my Will online!!! saves a trip AND it contained not only the Will but a copy of George SMITH's death certificate So George Stephen SMITH born in Gloucestershire (i found a baptism for him in Coln St Denis for 6 Mar 1834 parents George SMITH and Elizabeth STEPHEN (yay) his time in New Zealand was stated as 25 Years (take away from 1899) leaves time of arrival about 1874. Not a lot of help as yet but the number of children was a help. 6 daughters born 1867. 1870.1877.1879.1881.1887 and 2 sons born 1872 and 1885 so when he arrived he may have had 2 daughters Mary born in Bridgend Wales c1867 one b c1870 and a son b1872 the rest must have been born here. According to his death reg he was married June 1867 in Wales? but havent found anything on Free BMD her name is Elizabeth AKER/S with or without the S. still going square eyed at the census but nothing computes if anyone can help would be very grateful. Mind you death reg info is notorious for being wrong so ................... thanks Patsy

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Patsy That will is available on line; https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-43131-6123-14?cc=1865481&wc=M9HB-6JZ:385263249 Cheers Dave -----Original Message----- From: Patsy Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 1:04 PM To: NZ List Subject: [nz] Probate Wellington please Hi Listers anyone going to Wellington archives who could photograph a Will for me please? Just need the relevant info (wife and children) even a transcription would do SMITH George Stephens Place Glentunnel Occupation Labourer Death Date 21 Jul 1899 Court Wellington Agency AAOM Series 6029 Accession Probate Number 6642 Filed Date 13 Sep 1899 Type Will many thanks patsy The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers anyone going to Wellington archives who could photograph a Will for me please? Just need the relevant info (wife and children) even a transcription would do SMITH George Stephens Place Glentunnel Occupation Labourer Death Date 21 Jul 1899 Court Wellington Agency AAOM Series 6029 Accession Probate Number 6642 Filed Date 13 Sep 1899 Type Will many thanks patsy

WHATIWHATIHOHE >From The New Zealand Guide "Auckland Prov. Below Pirongia Mountain near the junction of the Puniu Stream and Waipa River. The site of the one-time village of the Maori King." Hope this helps. Regards, Christine Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 22:59:27 +1300 From: Judith Harper <quester@orcon.net.nz> Subject: [nz] Pharpharnua Farm, Whata Whata Hoe, Pirongia To: NZ Rootsweb list <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5316F57F.6040002@orcon.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed My grandmother Elsie Beet wrote the above address in a reading book in about 1914. She was about 14 years old and her writing is neat and decisive so I guess she knew her address but then I wonder about the spelling of Maori at that time. So can anyone please tell me what or where Whata Whata Hoe is? I know about Whatawhata but that seems too far away to be included under Pirongia. Any ideas please? And how might Pharpharnua be understood these days? Thanks. Judith Harper Nelson, NZ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judith I forwarded your request onto a member of our Genealogy group, who is very knowledgeable on the Pirongia district. I hope his reply is helpful. Regards Linda Te Awamutu Genealogy Message: 14 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 22:59:27 +1300 From: Judith Harper <quester@orcon.net.nz> Subject: [nz] Pharpharnua Farm, Whata Whata Hoe, Pirongia To: NZ Rootsweb list <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5316F57F.6040002@orcon.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed My grandmother Elsie Beet wrote the above address in a reading book in about 1914. She was about 14 years old and her writing is neat and decisive so I guess she knew her address but then I wonder about the spelling of Maori at that time. So can anyone please tell me what or where Whata Whata Hoe is? I know about Whatawhata but that seems too far away to be included under Pirongia. Any ideas please? And how might Pharpharnua be understood these days? Thanks. Judith Harper Nelson, NZ

I have briefly checked Picks and Bricks (it doesn't have an index)and have found an F E SMITH first built the Public Hall in Glentunnel with the help of many volunteers in approx. 1918 Also a Fred Smith, pottery and clay miner is listed as being in Glentunnel before World War 2 . There is a little more about Fred the builder which I have sent to Patsy

Auckland Star, 29 July 1941, Page 8 The golden wedding of Mr. and Mrs. George Masson of Alford Street, Avondale, was celebrated yesterday. Born at Jersey, in the Channel Islands, in 1862, Mr. Masson came to New Zealand in 1879 in the schooner John Watson, which was wrecked near Timaru. He then came north in the barque Aberdeen, and on reaching Auckland joined the crew of the cutter Wanderer. Later, in other vessels, he had a wide experience of the South Sea Islands trade. He then worked ashore, until his retirement three years ago. Mrs. Masson was a daughter of Mr. W. Stephens, of the Thames. There are five sons Messrs. George Masson, of Point Chevalier; William Masson, of Mount Eden: Albert Masson, of Avondale: Ernest Masson of Avondale and Reginald Masson, of Dominion Road. One son was killed in the Great War. There is one daughter, Mrs. W. Payne, of Mission Bay. There are two grandchildren. Bessie Stevens married George Masson in 1891 1891 Masson George Henry 1894 Masson Roy Roland 1897 Masson William Peter 1900 Masson Albert Edward 1903 Masson Ernest Stevens 1906 Masson Stella Amelie May 1910 Masson Reginald Arthur Vincent Bessie Masson 84Y died 1952 George Masson died 14 June 1944 age 81 Roy Roland Masson Rank Last Held Rifleman Serial No. 67631 First Known Rank Private Occupation before Enlistment Hairdresser NoK G. Masson (father), 29 Saint James Street, Auckland, New Zealand New Zealand Expeditionary Force Embarkation Unit 36th Reinforcements A Company Embarkation Date 23 April 1918 Place of Embarkation Wellington, New Zealand Transport HMNZT 102 Willochra Destination Southampton, England New Zealand Rifle Brigade, 1st Battalion, 3rd Date of Death 4 November 1918 Age at Death 23 Cause of Death Died of wounds Romeries Communal Cemetery Extension, Nord, France Roy Masson was the son of George and Bessie Masson, of 29 St. James's St., Auckland, New Zealand. Roy and 134 New Zealanders died 4 Nov. 1918 in France.

Hi All, Many thanks for those who responded about Frances Margaret & Thomas Joseph Hughes/Hughs. I have no details about Thomas and I was hoping a headstone would enlighten me but alas, they divorced, Thanks again, Peter, Melbourne, Australia

Ok I admit defeat !!! got to ask for help please. Frederick Edward SMith married Mary SMITH !! in 1887 in Christchurch have that info. HER parents were George SMITH and ElizabethADAMS and his parents were THomas SMITH and Caroline WISE. Cannot for the life of me find them coming into New Zealand. Now Mary was born in Wales and Frederick in Herefordshire so I have no idea if the arrived with their family or on their own and cannot find them either way?? I think George and Elizabeth and Mary were living in and around Coalgate/Glentunnel which means the family came but not sure about Frederick altho he ended up in Glentunnel as well. I actually am going stir crazy looking lol I HAVE THE INFO from Papers Past and have tried the NZSG cd. but I have to admit im stumped (possibly the hospital sedative I had in the last couple of days hasnt worn off!!) lol but really its driving me crazy never had Smiths before and dont want them again either lol thanks Patsy

Hello All Lyttelton Times - December 1893 has a lot of school examination results, so here is a list and the dates they were in the paper. Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ 15 December 1893 - Catholic Schools 16 December 1893 - Normal, Papanui, Kaiapoi, Southbrook, and Warwick House schools 18 December 1893 - School of Art 19 December 1893 - Gebbies Valley, Waimate Schools 20 December 1893 - Christchurch Girls' High, Marshlands, Opawa, Rangiora Catholic, and Miss Calvert Schools. 21 December 1893 - Christchurch Boys' High, Christs College, Cathedral Schools, 22 December 1893 - Rangiora C.of E. Ashburton Convent, St Pats. Ashburton, Waimataitai, Timaru Borough Schools. 23 December 1893 - East Chch, Sydenham, St. Albans, Waltham, Addington, Richmond, Woolston, West Lyttelton, Rangiora Schools. 26 December 1893 - Lyttelton, Opawa, Burwood, Southbridge. 27 December 1893 - Balcairn, Belfast, Tai-Tapu, Doyleston, Ashburton, Fairlie, Timaru High Schools 28 December 1893 - Teddington, St Michael's Schools. 30 December 1893 - Templeton, Irwell Schools