Thank you Penne. I will send away for the info next week. Many thanks for your help. Carol > > > His probate could be a better source of info, free to look at, or a cost by mail, or you could ask on the list for someone to transcribe, if you do not live near Auckland. cheers penne > > Archives NZ - Archway Probate Indexes > > Name > MUNRO Leslie John > Place > Devonport > Court > Auckland > Agency > BBAE > Series > 1570 > Accession > > Box Number > Box2828 > Record Number > 2184/1976 > Part Number > > Itemcode > 13103526 > Filing Years > 1976-1976 > Occupation > Retired > Comment > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com >

Hi Carol Can't help with the death notice but Leslie married Kathleen Eileen MALLETT in 1940 Bob M On 13/04/2014 10:55 a.m., Carol Mitchell wrote: > Morning > > Can anyone tell me where to find an archive for death notices in Auckland in 1976. The above was married to my grtgrt aunt Ethel and after her death in 1930, remarried. To whom I do not know. I am trying to establish a story that Aunt Ethel and Leslie adopted a daughter. > > Kind Regards > Carol > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Morning Can anyone tell me where to find an archive for death notices in Auckland in 1976. The above was married to my grtgrt aunt Ethel and after her death in 1930, remarried. To whom I do not know. I am trying to establish a story that Aunt Ethel and Leslie adopted a daughter. Kind Regards Carol

Very well said, Ken. So glad we have you to clarify things for us ! Cheers, Mary -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Baker" <ken.bergoje@belgacom.net> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:53 AM To: "'new-zealand'" <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [nz] nz] Church Register cards from Christchurch City Library -please read this > This whole episode is bizarre and shows every sign of someone at the > library overstepping the mark. The records are in the public domain and > cannot be copyright since among other things, they (the records) are well > past the cut-off date. It is possible that the library could claim that > they have copyright on the TRANSCRIPTS (as someone's original work of > interpretation) onto the cards but it doesn't appear they are making such > a > claim. Further, the library position is undermined because the further > transcribed information is not being used for commercial purposes. > > This whole area is a complete nightmare with many false arguments being > made > about BDM data. This all became apparent when the previous government put > in place the new rules for access to BDM data and which is a mess (what > else > would you expect from politicians?). The recent law has been accepted as > is, mainly because there has been no jurisdiction in the courts. Having > put > much of the information in the public domain over many years, the > government > of the day tried to claim it all back retrospectively - something which > was > never going to work, but for arguments sake, satisfied the political need > of > the day which was the need to somehow address identity theft. Further not > only did the government not own the original data which it is forbidden to > publish within certain guidelines (the information belongs to the person > providing it), the same information and much more is often published in > the > newspapers of the day. And we all know that most identity theft in modern > times arises from social media. > > So in conclusion, the only way for the library to follow through on their > claim is to bring a test legal case - which they would almost certainly > never do. It would be a civil case, extremely costly, and would amount to > using rate-payers money to try and establish a position and for which they > would be very heavily criticised for wasting funds. Further, they would > need a whole bunch of others to help defend their position including the > churches and that is unlikely to be the case as well. > > So one has to conclude, carry on. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J.M.de Montalk > Sent: 12 April 2014 00:37 > To: Olwyn Whitehouse; new-zealand > Subject: Re: [nz] nz] Church Register cards from Christchurch City > Library - > please read this > > In this instance the original material can't be under copyright as it's > public records, but the transcriptions of them may come under copyright. > As > I said, it's probably a good idea to get expert advice and then go from > there. > > Jeanette > >> Hello Beverley, >> It is the format that is copyrighted not the data. They can copyright >> the images but you have transcribed the data. Keep it out there. >> http://www.iponz.govt.nz/cms/copyright >> If you delete that information from your site some of the pages are on >> wayback. >> If you have to take your pages down place all of them out on the >> wayback machine. Some of your pages are already out there. >> >> Wayback >> http://archive.org/web/ >> >> This page is available on the web! >> Help make the Wayback Machine more complete! >> Save this url in the Wayback Machine >> >> http://web.archive.org/web/20081025025944/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ >> ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs.htmlhttp://web.archive.org/web/20140411130222/h >> ttp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/AIREY.AIRAY.BMD.Chri >> stchurch.City.Library.html >> http://web.archive.org/web/20130717194913/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ >> ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FITZSIMMONS.FITZSIMONS.Chch.Library.BMD.html >> http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130418/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ >> ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FFITCH.FITCH.Christchurch.Library.BMD.html >> http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130504/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ >> ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/MORAN.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html >> http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130559/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ >> ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/Odd.Surnames.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html >> http://web.archive.org/web/20130526120849/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ >> ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/PARKIN.PARKINS.Christchurch.Library.BMD.html >> >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs.html >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/AIREY.AIRAY.BMD.Chr >> istchurch.City.Library.html >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FITZSIMMONS.FITZSIM >> ONS.Chch.Library.BMD.html >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FFITCH.FITCH.Christ >> church.Library.BMD.html >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/MORAN.Christchurch. >> City.Library.BMD.html >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/Odd.Surnames.Christ >> church.City.Library.BMD.html >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/PARKIN.PARKINS.Chri >> stchurch.Library.BMD.html >> >> >> >> >> From: Beverley <bevevans@ihug.co.nz> >> Subject: [nz] Church Register cards from Christchurch City Library - >> please read this >> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:35:26 -0700 >> >> Hello All >> I was in the library today and I have been asked to no longer publish >> any of the Church Register card information on my web site. >> I have been informed the library do not own the intellectual property >> rights to the Church register cards and as a consequence I have been >> asked to remove this information from my web site. >> >> Beverley Evans >> Christchurch NZ >> >> >> -- >> Beverley Evans >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ >> transcriber of old newspapers >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/familyhistory/church/registers/ I will make time and go along and see the new library. After PALMER and Harrington names. Central Library Manchester at 36 Manchester Street opened Monday 20 January 2014. It is located on the corner on Manchester and Allen Streets. Contact us *36 Manchester Street, *Christchurch 8011 *ph: +64 3 941 7923 Hours Monday to Friday 9am - 6pm Saturday 10am - 5pm

As an afterthought, the library might be happier if they were offered a copy of the digitised version that Beverley has produced which could be used on their library computers, and perhaps eventually on the library website if they move in that direction.  But that's over to Beverley - it's entirely her call. Mary

I am really sorry to read some of the messages regarding this subject - I feel they are not at all helpful, and only serve to inflame the situation. Beverley has a problem.  I presume that she wishes to remain on good terms with the staff at the library where she has obviously has spent many, many hours transcribing.  But the staff believe that there is a problem with what she has been doing and defiance is not going to help her situation.   Let's pause for a moment and change the scene.  If she had been copying many pages of one of the books in the library and republishing them on her website, it would be quite clear that copyright had been infringed.  Is a collection of index cards somehow different?   The difference might lie in whether she has copied verbatim, or extracted information.  If she republished whole pages of the imaginary book that would breach copyright, but she would be free to republish information obtained from those pages in her own format (preferably with acknowledgment of her source). Maybe the same applies to the cards.  If she had been photographing them and publishing the photos on her website, that is rather different from extracting information from the cards, reformatting it to suit her own needs, and publishing it on her website.   The issue at hand is the ownership of the cards, NOT the ownership of the facts displayed on them.  My guess is that the Library is the owner of the cards, which would have been donated by the person who transcribed them from the Church registers..  As owners the Library would I think have rights to set conditions around how their property is used.  For example they allow some items to be borrowed, while others may be consulted only in the library, etc.  If they decide that these cards may be consulted but not copied "en masse" I think that is their right.  Copyright may not have been the best term to use in this context, since the cards are not "published". Now, getting back to Beverley.  I think she has good reason to write to the CEO of the library (Head Librarian or whatever) explaining what has happened, and pointing out that she has made no secret of what she has been doing for years.  She has done this copying in good faith, for the good of the community at large, and it is now unreasonable to ask her to take down her website after so much effort has gone into it.  She could also make the point that even if she wished to take it down it would still be accessible on Wayback, to which others would no doubt provide links. She could then ask the library for guidance about how much information they could agree to her extracting from the cards.   Good luck, Beverley.

This whole episode is bizarre and shows every sign of someone at the library overstepping the mark. The records are in the public domain and cannot be copyright since among other things, they (the records) are well past the cut-off date. It is possible that the library could claim that they have copyright on the TRANSCRIPTS (as someone's original work of interpretation) onto the cards but it doesn't appear they are making such a claim. Further, the library position is undermined because the further transcribed information is not being used for commercial purposes. This whole area is a complete nightmare with many false arguments being made about BDM data. This all became apparent when the previous government put in place the new rules for access to BDM data and which is a mess (what else would you expect from politicians?). The recent law has been accepted as is, mainly because there has been no jurisdiction in the courts. Having put much of the information in the public domain over many years, the government of the day tried to claim it all back retrospectively - something which was never going to work, but for arguments sake, satisfied the political need of the day which was the need to somehow address identity theft. Further not only did the government not own the original data which it is forbidden to publish within certain guidelines (the information belongs to the person providing it), the same information and much more is often published in the newspapers of the day. And we all know that most identity theft in modern times arises from social media. So in conclusion, the only way for the library to follow through on their claim is to bring a test legal case - which they would almost certainly never do. It would be a civil case, extremely costly, and would amount to using rate-payers money to try and establish a position and for which they would be very heavily criticised for wasting funds. Further, they would need a whole bunch of others to help defend their position including the churches and that is unlikely to be the case as well. So one has to conclude, carry on. -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J.M.de Montalk Sent: 12 April 2014 00:37 To: Olwyn Whitehouse; new-zealand Subject: Re: [nz] nz] Church Register cards from Christchurch City Library - please read this In this instance the original material can't be under copyright as it's public records, but the transcriptions of them may come under copyright. As I said, it's probably a good idea to get expert advice and then go from there. Jeanette > Hello Beverley, > It is the format that is copyrighted not the data. They can copyright > the images but you have transcribed the data. Keep it out there. > http://www.iponz.govt.nz/cms/copyright > If you delete that information from your site some of the pages are on > wayback. > If you have to take your pages down place all of them out on the > wayback machine. Some of your pages are already out there. > > Wayback > http://archive.org/web/ > > This page is available on the web! > Help make the Wayback Machine more complete! > Save this url in the Wayback Machine > > http://web.archive.org/web/20081025025944/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ > ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs.htmlhttp://web.archive.org/web/20140411130222/h > ttp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/AIREY.AIRAY.BMD.Chri > stchurch.City.Library.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20130717194913/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ > ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FITZSIMMONS.FITZSIMONS.Chch.Library.BMD.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130418/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ > ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FFITCH.FITCH.Christchurch.Library.BMD.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130504/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ > ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/MORAN.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130559/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ > ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/Odd.Surnames.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20130526120849/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/ > ~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/PARKIN.PARKINS.Christchurch.Library.BMD.html > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/AIREY.AIRAY.BMD.Chr > istchurch.City.Library.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FITZSIMMONS.FITZSIM > ONS.Chch.Library.BMD.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FFITCH.FITCH.Christ > church.Library.BMD.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/MORAN.Christchurch. > City.Library.BMD.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/Odd.Surnames.Christ > church.City.Library.BMD.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/PARKIN.PARKINS.Chri > stchurch.Library.BMD.html > > > > > From: Beverley <bevevans@ihug.co.nz> > Subject: [nz] Church Register cards from Christchurch City Library - > please read this > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:35:26 -0700 > > Hello All > I was in the library today and I have been asked to no longer publish > any of the Church Register card information on my web site. > I have been informed the library do not own the intellectual property > rights to the Church register cards and as a consequence I have been > asked to remove this information from my web site. > > Beverley Evans > Christchurch NZ > > > -- > Beverley Evans > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ > transcriber of old newspapers > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=lord+rutherford+family+tree&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=x9dIU-v2NcfNkQXA-YD4Ag&ved=0CEUQsAQ&biw=1093&bih=496 On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rod & Glennis Smith <glenrod6004@xtra.co.nz > wrote: > Does anybody know if there is a Rutherford family historian here in NZ? > Lord Rutherford's parents were James and Martha. There were 12 children. > Ernest went to England. At least two died young, but are there descendants > of any of the others? > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anybody know if there is a Rutherford family historian here in NZ? Lord Rutherford’s parents were James and Martha. There were 12 children. Ernest went to England. At least two died young, but are there descendants of any of the others?

Hello again, Sorry should have sent this web address earlier. https://sites.google.com/site/newzealandpolicemuseum/home/online-exhibitions/mug-shots Regards Allan

Find you rellies here. Regards Allan https://plus.google.com/photos/105144845743264611130/albums/5450146114861830929?banner=pwa

In this instance the original material can't be under copyright as it's public records, but the transcriptions of them may come under copyright. As I said, it's probably a good idea to get expert advice and then go from there. Jeanette > Hello Beverley, > It is the format that is copyrighted not the data. They can copyright the > images but you have transcribed the data. Keep it out there. > http://www.iponz.govt.nz/cms/copyright > If you delete that information from your site some of the pages are on > wayback. > If you have to take your pages down place all of them out on the wayback > machine. Some of your pages are already out there. > > Wayback > http://archive.org/web/ > > This page is available on the web! > Help make the Wayback Machine more complete! > Save this url in the Wayback Machine > > http://web.archive.org/web/20081025025944/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs.htmlhttp://web.archive.org/web/20140411130222/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/AIREY.AIRAY.BMD.Christchurch.City.Library.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20130717194913/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FITZSIMMONS.FITZSIMONS.Chch.Library.BMD.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130418/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FFITCH.FITCH.Christchurch.Library.BMD.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130504/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/MORAN.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20140411130559/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/Odd.Surnames.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html > http://web.archive.org/web/20130526120849/http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/PARKIN.PARKINS.Christchurch.Library.BMD.html > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/AIREY.AIRAY.BMD.Christchurch.City.Library.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FITZSIMMONS.FITZSIMONS.Chch.Library.BMD.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/FFITCH.FITCH.Christchurch.Library.BMD.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/MORAN.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/Odd.Surnames.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/PARKIN.PARKINS.Christchurch.Library.BMD.html > > > > > From: Beverley <bevevans@ihug.co.nz> > Subject: [nz] Church Register cards from Christchurch City Library - > please > read this > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:35:26 -0700 > > Hello All > I was in the library today and I have been asked to no longer publish > any of the Church Register card information on my web site. > I have been informed the library do not own the intellectual property > rights to the Church register cards and as a consequence > I have been asked to remove this information from my web site. > > Beverley Evans > Christchurch NZ > > > -- > Beverley Evans > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/ > transcriber of old newspapers > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Patsy You put that perfect. Everyone of us at some time or other is guilty of transcribing some item and putting it on our websites (myself included) that has helped other researchers find family. Beverley don't give up or take your site down, asking a lot of questions as to who is in charge and find the legal technicalities, so we all know where we stand. My understanding that long as you made no money from your transcribing, then you were within the law. Beverley's your site is marvelous, don't have many family in that area but always keep an eye on your reports, just in case one has slipped down there. Chin up, we are all behind you. Pam

Once again the genealogists have risen in support of one of their own. I can imagine that Beverley's work has saved many people a lot of time and expense with their research. How much simpler it might have been if she had obtained permission from the library when she planned this project. With a library book you are entitled to photocopy a few pages or at most 10% legally without falling foul of copyright laws. When an individual researches in the library and copies an individual or families records it is presumed to be for their own use. No infringement. However, wholesale copying appears to be another kettle of fish and there is always the likelihood of being accused of breaching copyright. [aside from that serious issue do any other aging members of this list find they are slipping back into using the figures of speech and colloquialisms of their youth or is it just me?] Shirley -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Olwyn Whitehouse Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2014 1:25 a.m. To: new-zealand Subject: [nz] nz] Church Register cards from Christchurch City Library -

Talk about pc !!! crazy Ok so am I and a LOT of others in trouble now?? because WE actually transcribed those cards??? what about us? who are we in trouble with??? what a load of baloney. The churches gave permission (I PRESUME!!) for the cards to be transcribed off the registers so my guess is the churches own the intellectual property!! I sat for hours in the Methodist Archives transcribing - and if they are happy to have the registers transcribed on to cards what on earth is the problem with Beverley loading them onto her site same difference only a LOT more people have access. Nothing has changed really. I transcribed St Mary's church Addington on to computer and somewhere I must still have the file so does that make me a law breaker??? WHo on earth thinks up these ridiculous ideas? OR who was it that complained???? maybe one of those stiffnecked do gooders laid a complaint (for some unknown reason - like grandma's marriage was a "little late" and now its all over the net??? ) and the library is too scared to tell them to toddle off. crazy cheers Patsy

Maybe the problem is that Beverley has not transcribed the Church register cards but just photographed other peoples work and then put it on her website. Allan -----Original Message----- From: Olwyn Whitehouse Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:25 AM To: new-zealand Subject: [nz] nz] Church Register cards from Christchurch City Library - please read this Hello Beverley, It is the format that is copyrighted not the data. They can copyright the images but you have transcribed the data. Keep it out there.

Hi Stuart , Perhaps you could e-mail the owner of this family tree ... Cheers Ray http://www.jccglass.me.uk/campbell/campbell-nz.html On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:18 PM, spark <spark@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > My ggg aunt Sarah CAMERON Campbell died at 'The Molyneaux' on 24 February > 1863 - there is a death notice in the Daily Southern Cross (Auckland, where > several of her family lived) on 21 March 1863. She left a husband and young > family of six children, the youngest born on 1 February 1863, according to > family information. I can find no death to match her in the online BDM, nor > any birth for the recent daughter Mary. Could her husband Duncan CAMPBELL > have been so distressed he failed to register the death and the birth? Is > there some other way to search for her death? > > Stuart Park > Kerikeri > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Hilton I should be able to do these on Sunday - please let me know if someone else does them before this. Regards Sue On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:30 PM, hilton doidge <hilton.d@clear.net.nz>wrote: > It will be appreciated if anyone has access to the FULL death notices for > the following please... > > > > ROWELL, David Graham Noel. Published in Waikato Times, 14 August 2013. > > > > SEYMOUR, Rosealie nee ROWELL. Published in NZ Herald, 16 May 2011 and > Napier > Mail, 25 May 2011. > > > > BAYLIS, Eileen Betty nee ROWELL. Published in NZ Herald, 30 September 2013. > > > > I am aware of the brief snippets in "A Memory Tree" and "NZ Herald." > > > > TIA > > Hilton Doidge > > hilton.d@clear.net.nz > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >