Sue, The British WW1 military records are on Ancestry. There are many Thomas Hudsons. Can you give more information to help narrow it down? Date or birth or at least the year of birth. Name of wife (if married then) or his parents? Regards, Paul >>> Sue & Evan Thomas <sueandevanthomas@gmail.com> 16/05/2014 20:21 >>> Just realised the other day that I know nothing (and neither does any one else in the family) know anything about my grandfather's war service in World War 1. I do know he did serve because I knew about his war medals being stolen. Can anyone advise me where to start? He would have been in the English army because he lived in Birmingham. Name of Thomas Eric HUDSON. Any help/suggestions gratefully accepted. Kind regards Sue & Evan Thomas Blackmore and Gibson historic cottages http://heritagenelson.co.nz/ - cottage accommodation in Nelson, New Zealand The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs.

Just realised the other day that I know nothing (and neither does any one else in the family) know anything about my grandfather's war service in World War 1. I do know he did serve because I knew about his war medals being stolen. Can anyone advise me where to start? He would have been in the English army because he lived in Birmingham. Name of Thomas Eric HUDSON. Any help/suggestions gratefully accepted. Kind regards Sue & Evan Thomas Blackmore and Gibson historic cottages http://heritagenelson.co.nz/ - cottage accommodation in Nelson, New Zealand

Don't get me started on MyHeritage.com as my tree has been added to other peoples trees with many errors and when I asked them to remove them they would not and even my mothers photo is there and also my private notes about my father and one of my children has a different father. I keep well away from that site and have advised others also to do so. Regards Cheryl -----Original Message----- From: Les & Sue Tuner Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:08 PM To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] FAMILY TREES I dont know if any folk on family websites, but a family member has just informed me people are duplicating family trees especially for A Geni family website which is now owned by My Heritage. Been told Geni wants to make a ONE WORLD FAMILY TREE not sure if they are being paid or not a lot of my friends family trees have been duplicated one person i can see is up to it maybe more. is up to it. Mine has been done to though i have never put any of my Family trees on any websites a distant family member has and what hes put up is mostly wrong so if these a one World family trees somewhere down the line people are going to be paying for wrong information as these folk never get in touch just follow and duplicate. Its sad when its come to this. Sue The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3469 / Virus Database: 3722/7502 - Release Date: 05/15/14

Thanks Olwyn, My father is one of those buried there . but not with the NZers but with his Air Crew . I am luckily enough to have been there 10years ago . Claire Claire Sinclair Paterson Invercargill, New Zealand . On Line Parish Clerk for Cubert, & Crantock Cornwall, UK ( lookups Welcome ) http://mmhamilton.tripod.com (World War 2 ,Story ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olwyn Whitehouse" <olwynbw@gmail.com> To: "new-zealand" <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: [nz] Cassino - white crosses row upon row - 70 years ago. > The 70th anniversary commemorations of the battles of Monte Cassino this > weekend. The New Zealanders will hold their service on Sunday 18th May at > 3.00 pm, in the Commonwealth War Cemetery. > > A total of 2176 New Zealanders lost their lives in Italy during World War > II, and 456 are buried in Cassino. The Battle of Monte Cassino is > regarded > as one of the hardest-fought battles of the war. German defenders were > driven from their positions but at a high cost, including the loss of 352 > New Zealand lives and 1200 wounded. > > On the morning of the 16th Monastery Hill was still in enemy hands and > Cassino had not been cleared. In deed, the enemy had had the opportunity > during the night to clear away debris and reorganise a number of > strongpoints. It was clear that the hope of obtaining full advantage of > the > surprise; attack and breaking through with the armour had gone and that > further progress would be slow. Cassino had to be cleared so that the New > Zealand Division could link up with the Indian Division on Hangman's Hill. > At first light the New Zealand Infantry of the Sixth Brigade, with tank > support, went on with the attack. Apart from isolated posts, the main > enemy > resistance was in'concrete defences in the south-west corner, of the town, > known as the Continental Hotel area, and at points at the foot of Castle > Hill blasted into the face of the hill, where the enemy resisted fiercely. > It was against these points that the New Zealand infantry concentrated > during the following days. Close up behind the infantry the engineers > built > bridges and with bulldozers and hand labour gradually cleared routes > through. On the 16th tanks of the 19th Armoured Regiment were brought into > the town, and that morning our 26th Battalion, supported by a squadron of > tanks, swung south and made an important advance, capturing the Cassino > railway station after fierce fighting. Enemy tanks and anti tank guns > attempted to intervene, but were dealt with by our tanks and artillery. > > General Freyberg's Report > The New Zealand Division, had the task of storming Cassino, commanded by > Major-General G. B. Parkinson. General Freyberg states that the plan was > to > reduce the encounter battle to a minimum by the violence of the initial > blow from the air, but the blitz bombing proved a double-edged weapon and > produced obstacles which made speedy deployment of our armour impossible. > Though the strong defences at Cassino have held, the main defensive system > has been broken into and in the fierce battles there have been heavy enemy > casualties. Many gallant exploits were performed by the British, American, > Indian, and New Zealand troops who fought over the steep hills and in the > town. The Cassino position is a formidable one, and not for the first time > in history it has barred the way to armies advancing into the Liri Valley, > which leads to Rome. Cassino, once a substantial stone town, lies at the > foot of Monastery Hill, which rises sheerly out of the plain not unlike > the > Rock of Gibraltar in steepness and height. The road and railway to Rome > pass through Cassino. The narrow plain over which we had to advance Was > flooded, wired, and mined, and the entire defensive system was covered by > the small but swift-flowing Rapido River. From the vantage point of the > monastery the enemy could watch and bring down fire on every movement on > the roads or in the open country in the plain below. This natural fortress > of the enemy's Gustav Line held up the American advance earlier in the > year, and it was from the American Corps that we took over, after coming > across from the Eighth Army front. > > At Cassino they attacked again and again, gaining important peaks to > the.north and a foothold in the northern edge of the town itself. These > were the positions we took over, the Fourth Indian Division moving into > the > mountains to the north, while the Second New Zealand Division occupied, > the > northern outskirts of Cassino. Since the middle of February, we have > maintained pressure on the Cassino front. The enemy has been attacked from > the air and bombarded by artillery, and has been forced to employ his > reserves to meet the threat of a break-through. He put in the first > available troops to hold Cassino and the heights above it, but on February > 15 the Benedictine Monastery was destroyed by heavy air bombardment, a > step > which was forced upon us, because, in spite of enemy protests to the > contrary, it was being used as an observatory for military purposes. Prior > to the main attack on Cassino itself, the Fourth Indian Division fought a > battle on steep, rocky slopes to the north of the monastery. They gained > ground on Point 593 and hsve held it ever since, in spite of enemy > counter-attacks and very difficult conditions. The enemy had prepared > their > position in advance, and their firing points blasted into rock had to be > stormed at night with handgrenade and bayonet. On February 17 and 18 the > 28th Maori Battalion carried out operations across the Rapido River south > of the town. A bridgehead was won and the engineers were within an ace of > getting demolitions repaired and bridges through after magnificent work, > but dawn came an hour too soon. By daylight the enemy could pick out their > targets from Monastery Hill and further work was impossible under > continuous fire. Supporting arms could not be got up and our bridgehead > was > driven back by an enemy tank attack.' > > Meanwhile plans were made for a full-scale attack supported by very heavy > air and artillery bombardment. This was to be followed by an infantry > assault which, if fully successful, would make a break for the armour into > the valley below. The attack on Cassino and Monastery Hill by the Second > New Zealand Division and the Fourth Indian Division, dependent as it was > upon tank and air support, required firm going for the tanks and clear > visibility for the bombers. This meant weeks of patient waiting, since > weather conditions in February and March in Italy, leave much to be > desired. "At last, on March 15, it seemed the weather was right and the > attack was launched. Before dawn that morning the New Zealand troops on > the > northern, outskirts of Cassino were withdrawn, and at 8.30 a terrific air > attack began. For the first time heavy bombers of the strategic air force > as well as medium and light bombers took part in a close air-support > programme of unprecedented height. From an observation post I watched > already battered Cassino reduced to rubble. Squadron after squadron of > Fortresses, Liberators, Mitchells, and Marauders of the American Air Force > came in with short intervals between the groups to allow the huge clouds > of > dust and smoke to clear. Flashes of flame from bursting bombs leaped from > the buildings and from the slopes above the town, and explosions > reverberated through the hills and shook the ground under our feet.' No > enemy aircraft appeared during the attack. Enemy A.A. guns were > neutralised > by artillery, and none fired after 10.30. At 12 o'clock precisely, the > last > flight of medium bombers planted their bombs. with impressive accuracy. > Twelve o'clock was zero hour. Heavy Allied artillery (under our C.C.R.A., > Brigadier C. E. Weir) opened fire, and the infantry attacked. Your > division > (under Major-General Parkinson) had the task of storming Cassino. During > the air attack there had been no artillery fire on Cassino, as the dust > and > smoke would have obscured the target for the aircraft, but at zero hour > between 500 and' 600 guns of all calibres opened on the corps front a > bombardment heavier than at Alamein. > > Behind a creeping barrage the infantry, engineers, and tanks advanced into > Cassino from the north. The approach was a bottleneck restricted, by > massive mountains, on the west and by the Rapido River in the east. Only > one battalion could be deployed at a time, a factor which was a great > handicap to our operations. The positions we had withdrawn from were > occupied without trouble. Our first objective, Castle Hill, a steep > miniature of the monastery feature just north of the town, was stormed and > captured by the 25th Battalion, and the 26th Battalion followed by the > 19th > Armoured Regiment attacked Cassino itself. At first our attack met with > little opposition and casualties were very light. Prisoners taken were > stunned and reported heavy- casualties from the bombing. The town was > completely wrecked and the whole area was covered with wide and deep > craters, up to 60 feet across, which could not be crossed by armour. In, > some places where the bombs had missed buildings or had not penetrated the > reinforced base there were snipers and enemy posts which were holding out. > On the western edge of the town enemy position blasted into the base of > the > hill remained intact. > Many gallant exploits have been performed by British, American, Indian, > and > New Zealand troops who fought over those steep hills and in the town. > Units > and individuals cannot be mentioned, in this report, but some will be > recognised when awards are announced. After the hard battle the troops > were > tired out, but they were recovering quickly, and are in good heart. > > The men not only accepted the terrible winter weather but used their > traditional resourcefulness and ingenuity to make the best of things. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/soldiers_photos.htm > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I dont know if any folk on family websites, but a family member has just informed me people are duplicating family trees especially for A Geni family website which is now owned by My Heritage. Been told Geni wants to make a ONE WORLD FAMILY TREE not sure if they are being paid or not a lot of my friends family trees have been duplicated one person i can see is up to it maybe more. is up to it. Mine has been done to though i have never put any of my Family trees on any websites a distant family member has and what hes put up is mostly wrong so if these a one World family trees somewhere down the line people are going to be paying for wrong information as these folk never get in touch just follow and duplicate. Its sad when its come to this. Sue

Hi again I noticed that he was enumerated as Eric HUDSON in 1911, Thomas E in 1901 With that in mind I checked for both and in combination In the medal cards there are 8 Erics, but only one as plain Eric, the others are in combination with other names, the one is with the Royal Engineers and was an Officer (could yours have been an officer?) Searching for Thomas in the medal cards there are 202, no Thomas Eric, and 9 Thomas E HUDSONs Unfortunately medal cards rarely give any further identifiers to help to know which might be yours I see there is a passenger list in 1920 for a Thomas Eric HUDSON of the right age travelling to Australia, he is a student I cannot find any obvious trace of a service record but as I said previously only a third survived I can understand a man not talking about his war service, many didn't but why not his family? If you know his address in 1918/19 you might try that area for an absent voters list, if he is listed it would record his regiment, rank and service number, but you do need an address and not all these lists survive but it may be worthwhile trying I don't suppose you have a photo in uniform? Unfortunately there are many variables regarding the regiment he may have served in, if before 1916 he may have some sort of choice of the regt, if 1916 on he would be put where they wanted to put him Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/05/2014 10:24, Sue & Evan Thomas wrote: > Thanks so much for your help so far - other details which may be > helpful: > >> From his birth certificate - born 4 August 1892. Father Charles >> George HUDSON, mother Emmeline HUDSON (nee RICKUS). Address at >> birth - 47 Albert Road, Handsworth, West Bromwich. > > Don't know anything about his war service because he always refused > to talk about the war or his family. > > He emmigrated to NZ in 1923. > > Any help gratefully received. Unfortunately we are not subscribed to > Ancestory.com > > > > > Kind regards Sue & Evan Thomas

Hi Sue Its not a new problem, as long as man has been researching their roots, they have been getting it wrong (and right) and compiling false genealogies Obviously made easier by computerisation If you have a tree online OR give your research to another who may put it online or give to yet another person, the likelihood is that someone will copy that data and it will be added to this that or the other site The only way to avert this problem is not to put your data online or give it to another I would though point out that in the main, data is not ours, it is public record and we don't own it, if we don't put it online ourselves, there is little to stop someone else researching the same lines (accurately or inaccurately) from putting the same data as you have online All we can do is conduct our own research in as accurate a manner as we are able, what others do is largely beyond our control I have let other researchers know they have errors and have generally been ignored A one world tree is not uncommon, familysearch, Ancestry etc all use one, apart from the system of entry I do not believe any of them "police" their sites (and neither should they), ie its down to the person inputting the data Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/05/2014 06:08, Les & Sue Tuner wrote: > I dont know if any folk on family websites, but a family member has > just informed me people are duplicating family trees especially for > A Geni family website which is now owned by My Heritage. Been told > Geni wants to make a ONE WORLD FAMILY TREE not sure if they are > being paid or not a lot of my friends family trees have been > duplicated one person i can see is up to it maybe more. is up to it. > Mine has been done to though i have never put any of my Family trees > on any websites a distant family member has and what hes put up is > mostly wrong so if these a one World family trees somewhere down > the line people are going to be paying for wrong information as these > folk never get in touch just follow and duplicate. Its sad when its > come to this. Sue

Hi Sue As it is a Birmingham or British Army enquiry it might be better on a more appropriate list however There are no hits for a Thomas Eric HUDSON in the military records as far as I can tell and no obvious entries in the medal rolls either There are nine Thomas E HUDSONs listed So can you give some more detail, regiment or service number if known (I would guess not) Place of birth, year and parents/siblings It should be noted that approx two thirds of the service records were destroyed in WW2 so chances are slimmer for finding one But repost more detail and we can try again Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/05/2014 09:21, Sue & Evan Thomas wrote: > Just realised the other day that I know nothing (and neither does any > one else in the family) know anything about my grandfather's war > service in World War 1. I do know he did serve because I knew about > his war medals being stolen. Can anyone advise me where to start? > He would have been in the English army because he lived in > Birmingham. Name of Thomas Eric HUDSON. > > Any help/suggestions gratefully accepted. > > > > > Kind regards Sue & Evan Thomas

The 70th anniversary commemorations of the battles of Monte Cassino this weekend. The New Zealanders will hold their service on Sunday 18th May at 3.00 pm, in the Commonwealth War Cemetery. A total of 2176 New Zealanders lost their lives in Italy during World War II, and 456 are buried in Cassino. The Battle of Monte Cassino is regarded as one of the hardest-fought battles of the war. German defenders were driven from their positions but at a high cost, including the loss of 352 New Zealand lives and 1200 wounded. On the morning of the 16th Monastery Hill was still in enemy hands and Cassino had not been cleared. In deed, the enemy had had the opportunity during the night to clear away debris and reorganise a number of strongpoints. It was clear that the hope of obtaining full advantage of the surprise; attack and breaking through with the armour had gone and that further progress would be slow. Cassino had to be cleared so that the New Zealand Division could link up with the Indian Division on Hangman's Hill. At first light the New Zealand Infantry of the Sixth Brigade, with tank support, went on with the attack. Apart from isolated posts, the main enemy resistance was in'concrete defences in the south-west corner, of the town, known as the Continental Hotel area, and at points at the foot of Castle Hill blasted into the face of the hill, where the enemy resisted fiercely. It was against these points that the New Zealand infantry concentrated during the following days. Close up behind the infantry the engineers built bridges and with bulldozers and hand labour gradually cleared routes through. On the 16th tanks of the 19th Armoured Regiment were brought into the town, and that morning our 26th Battalion, supported by a squadron of tanks, swung south and made an important advance, capturing the Cassino railway station after fierce fighting. Enemy tanks and anti tank guns attempted to intervene, but were dealt with by our tanks and artillery. General Freyberg's Report The New Zealand Division, had the task of storming Cassino, commanded by Major-General G. B. Parkinson. General Freyberg states that the plan was to reduce the encounter battle to a minimum by the violence of the initial blow from the air, but the blitz bombing proved a double-edged weapon and produced obstacles which made speedy deployment of our armour impossible. Though the strong defences at Cassino have held, the main defensive system has been broken into and in the fierce battles there have been heavy enemy casualties. Many gallant exploits were performed by the British, American, Indian, and New Zealand troops who fought over the steep hills and in the town. The Cassino position is a formidable one, and not for the first time in history it has barred the way to armies advancing into the Liri Valley, which leads to Rome. Cassino, once a substantial stone town, lies at the foot of Monastery Hill, which rises sheerly out of the plain not unlike the Rock of Gibraltar in steepness and height. The road and railway to Rome pass through Cassino. The narrow plain over which we had to advance Was flooded, wired, and mined, and the entire defensive system was covered by the small but swift-flowing Rapido River. From the vantage point of the monastery the enemy could watch and bring down fire on every movement on the roads or in the open country in the plain below. This natural fortress of the enemy's Gustav Line held up the American advance earlier in the year, and it was from the American Corps that we took over, after coming across from the Eighth Army front. At Cassino they attacked again and again, gaining important peaks to the.north and a foothold in the northern edge of the town itself. These were the positions we took over, the Fourth Indian Division moving into the mountains to the north, while the Second New Zealand Division occupied, the northern outskirts of Cassino. Since the middle of February, we have maintained pressure on the Cassino front. The enemy has been attacked from the air and bombarded by artillery, and has been forced to employ his reserves to meet the threat of a break-through. He put in the first available troops to hold Cassino and the heights above it, but on February 15 the Benedictine Monastery was destroyed by heavy air bombardment, a step which was forced upon us, because, in spite of enemy protests to the contrary, it was being used as an observatory for military purposes. Prior to the main attack on Cassino itself, the Fourth Indian Division fought a battle on steep, rocky slopes to the north of the monastery. They gained ground on Point 593 and hsve held it ever since, in spite of enemy counter-attacks and very difficult conditions. The enemy had prepared their position in advance, and their firing points blasted into rock had to be stormed at night with handgrenade and bayonet. On February 17 and 18 the 28th Maori Battalion carried out operations across the Rapido River south of the town. A bridgehead was won and the engineers were within an ace of getting demolitions repaired and bridges through after magnificent work, but dawn came an hour too soon. By daylight the enemy could pick out their targets from Monastery Hill and further work was impossible under continuous fire. Supporting arms could not be got up and our bridgehead was driven back by an enemy tank attack.' Meanwhile plans were made for a full-scale attack supported by very heavy air and artillery bombardment. This was to be followed by an infantry assault which, if fully successful, would make a break for the armour into the valley below. The attack on Cassino and Monastery Hill by the Second New Zealand Division and the Fourth Indian Division, dependent as it was upon tank and air support, required firm going for the tanks and clear visibility for the bombers. This meant weeks of patient waiting, since weather conditions in February and March in Italy, leave much to be desired. "At last, on March 15, it seemed the weather was right and the attack was launched. Before dawn that morning the New Zealand troops on the northern, outskirts of Cassino were withdrawn, and at 8.30 a terrific air attack began. For the first time heavy bombers of the strategic air force as well as medium and light bombers took part in a close air-support programme of unprecedented height. From an observation post I watched already battered Cassino reduced to rubble. Squadron after squadron of Fortresses, Liberators, Mitchells, and Marauders of the American Air Force came in with short intervals between the groups to allow the huge clouds of dust and smoke to clear. Flashes of flame from bursting bombs leaped from the buildings and from the slopes above the town, and explosions reverberated through the hills and shook the ground under our feet.' No enemy aircraft appeared during the attack. Enemy A.A. guns were neutralised by artillery, and none fired after 10.30. At 12 o'clock precisely, the last flight of medium bombers planted their bombs. with impressive accuracy. Twelve o'clock was zero hour. Heavy Allied artillery (under our C.C.R.A., Brigadier C. E. Weir) opened fire, and the infantry attacked. Your division (under Major-General Parkinson) had the task of storming Cassino. During the air attack there had been no artillery fire on Cassino, as the dust and smoke would have obscured the target for the aircraft, but at zero hour between 500 and' 600 guns of all calibres opened on the corps front a bombardment heavier than at Alamein. Behind a creeping barrage the infantry, engineers, and tanks advanced into Cassino from the north. The approach was a bottleneck restricted, by massive mountains, on the west and by the Rapido River in the east. Only one battalion could be deployed at a time, a factor which was a great handicap to our operations. The positions we had withdrawn from were occupied without trouble. Our first objective, Castle Hill, a steep miniature of the monastery feature just north of the town, was stormed and captured by the 25th Battalion, and the 26th Battalion followed by the 19th Armoured Regiment attacked Cassino itself. At first our attack met with little opposition and casualties were very light. Prisoners taken were stunned and reported heavy- casualties from the bombing. The town was completely wrecked and the whole area was covered with wide and deep craters, up to 60 feet across, which could not be crossed by armour. In, some places where the bombs had missed buildings or had not penetrated the reinforced base there were snipers and enemy posts which were holding out. On the western edge of the town enemy position blasted into the base of the hill remained intact. Many gallant exploits have been performed by British, American, Indian, and New Zealand troops who fought over those steep hills and in the town. Units and individuals cannot be mentioned, in this report, but some will be recognised when awards are announced. After the hard battle the troops were tired out, but they were recovering quickly, and are in good heart. The men not only accepted the terrible winter weather but used their traditional resourcefulness and ingenuity to make the best of things. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/soldiers_photos.htm

Stefan: Here's the contact details from the Auckland Council website for the Paparoa-Howick Cemetery: Email: southern.cemeteries@aucklandcouncil.govt.nz Phone 09 279 8232 Fax 09 250 0070 Hopefully they can help you. Regards, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Clive" <clivesp01@yahoo.co.nz> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:20 PM Subject: [nz] Howick Cemetery map > Hi list, wondering if there is anyone out there who has a map for the > howick cemetery (or Paparoa-Howick Cemetery) that they could share with me > I am hoping to locate a relatives grave up there, but can not find a map > for the cemetery > Cheers > Stefan > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list, wondering if there is anyone out there who has a map for the howick cemetery (or Paparoa-Howick Cemetery) that they could share with me I am hoping to locate a relatives grave up there, but can not find a map for the cemetery Cheers Stefan

Hi Thanks to Isla I now have this notice. Regards Sue On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Sue king <sueray2002@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > Could someone do a lookup in Hawkes Bay Today<http://www.amemorytree.co.nz/deathNoticeAdvice.php?personid=109198&publication=DEATH-NOTICE-HAWKTODA-25082010> 25 > Aug 2010 > Thanks Sue >

I am hoping that someone will be able to give me details of a death in todays ODT please. I wish to send a message to the family but do not know names or addresses for them. Thank you Jenny

If any one is likely to be at the Ashburton, could they be so kind as to take a picture of Area 94, plot 34, which will either be unmarked, or have a headstone for Clara Doms Harris, who died on March 18, 1906 Many thanks Cecily Munro Researching: Robinson; McCleary; Leech; Doms; Brickell; Membery; Munro; Robertson, Scott; Shaw

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 Angela Barnett <barnettnz@gmail.com> asked >Subject: [nz] WW1 horses from Australia > >Hello Lists > >I have a problem trying to find a James ROGERS who sold? horses to the >Australian army? for WW1. Any indexes out there where I might find a >reference to this?( He was living in Australia). > >Thank you all >*A. Barnett NZSG #14998* Hi Angie James ROGERS - WW1 horses from Australia I have just spotted this old query while browsing old messages. Did you get a result for your query? If not, these are probably references to the James Rogers you are looking for: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/19224911 The Brisbane Courier (Qld. ), Thursday 21 May 1903, page 3 LONGREACH, May 20. <snip> At the Police Court, James Rogers, a << James Rogers, horse buyer well-known horse buyer, was fined £3 and costs for travelling horses without a way- bill, and for refusing to assist the police when inspecting them. ( Note: 'Travelling horses' usually refers to taking a stallion ( somewhere to service mares. My grandfather used to 'travel' a ( draught stallion in the Feilding district in the early 1900s. ( ( Nowadays mares are taken to the stallion. Longreach is directly inland from Emerald on the road between Rockhampton and Mt Cloncurry and Mt Isa. and http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/19998514 The Brisbane Courier (Qld.) Friday 27 November 1914, Page 7 PURCHASE OF HORSES. CROWS NEST, November 26. Mr James Rogers, horse buyer, has << James Rogers, horse buyer purchased two trucks of horses for war << ... for war purposes purposes, and paid on an average of £14, £20 being paid for some. The horses were railed to Pinkenba this morn- ing. Crows Nest is inland from Brisbane and about 30 miles north of Toowoomba. Pinkenba is on the northern bank of the Brisbane River, almost at the mouth of the river, which seems a likely place to ship the horses - or keep them until there were sufficient to ship when a boat became available. This 1896 reference to a James ROGERS who had stables in North Croydon may - or may not - be the same person : http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/79008088 The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld.), Monday 9 November 1896, page 2 QUEENSLAND NEWS. (By Telegraph.) CROYDON. Saturday. A fire was discovered at 11 o'clock last night in the stables of James Rogers, North Croydon. The building, saddles, etc., were destroyed, the four race horses being saved with difficulty. The origin of the fire is a mystery. The only Croydon that I can find in Queensland is located just south of the base of the Gulf of Carpentaria in Far North Queensland. Despite all those clues, I can't definitely find James ROGERS the horse buyer in Queensland Electoral Rolls. Do you have a name for a wife? Hope this helps Graham unless ... 1903 Queensland > Darling Downs > Toowoomba 4203 ROGERS James - M - Hill street - saddler 4211 ROGERS Rose Elizabeth - F - Hill street - domestic duties or 1903 Queensland > Kennedy > Longreach 2117 ROGERS James - Vergemont Station - boundary rider - M

Hello all and thanks very much for your help. What a great list. So many will helpful members. The Andrew I asked about was just one of an extended family who came to NZ from the 1870's onward. First was my 2x great grandmother to marry in Southland. She was followed by my widowed great grandfather with my then 5 year old grandmother and her younger brother in the 1880's. Also settled in Southland. In the 1910's just before WW1 2 of 2x ggmother's grand nephews came with their families and settled in Dunedin. And now I have found Andrew. I had been completely unaware of these extended family members living in NZ. There had been no stories handed down through my grandmother, which is not her fault, because she went to live with a daughter in Christchurch when I was quite young, and then later to live with her youngest daughter in Auckland when I was a young teenager. She may never known of her cousins of course. So thanks again to all who have helped with this enquiry. It just goes to show that there is more in a family's history than what you may expect when you first start out. Regards Greg

Thanks for all of your assistance with my Schildhauers . . . I've checked through many of your suggestions, but I think that I am still missing an essential piece somewhere to hold it all together. Does anyone know though whether there was ever a CENTRAL MOUTERE SCHOOL - this would have been around 1900 or so. I have a child leaving Neudorf School bound for Central Moutere . . . Thanks. Beth

Hi Could someone do a couple of lookups for me please? O'DONNELL Patrick d.6.10.1968 O'DONNELL Elsie May d.31.3.1968 Many thanks Sue

Hi there, If it is before 1930, the 5 yr old will have been " examined" by a "Birthing Woman" to ensure she was not "touched". and the childs comments as well as the Midwifes comments would have been recorded but in the DEFENCE of the Male. Robyn ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi, > This family we know about in NZ including the parents > arrival in NZ. We have some theories about them back in > England but no proof. While searching thru papers past we > have found an unpleasant report of the eldest daughter > being raped. - as per link below. > > http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=CHP18720323.2.21&srpos=1&e=01-01-1872-31-03-1872--10-CHP-1----2Sarah+Ellen+Jones-- > > In the text it refers to ( quote) " The childs father > Edward Jones, the mother Jane Jones, and a sister were > examined" The only sister was at the time 5 years of age. > Would the court have "examined" her as a witness, or > could this be a sister of Edward or Jane we do not know > about. This leads to another question - would there > still be some records around that might help. I have asked > the Rangiora Library, but did not get any help there. > > Does anyone have any thoughts about where to next. > > Thanks, > Calvin > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=q&hs=1&r=1&results=1&dafdq=&dafmq=&dafyq=&datdq=&datmq=&datyq=&pbq=&sf=&ssnip=&tyq=&t=0&txq=Schildhauer&e=-------10--1----0--&x=10&y=11 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Aotueka <aotueka@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Hello all - happy Mother's Day!! > > I am related to the SCHILDHAUER family of Nelson - I do not have much > information, and admit that I am struggling with inconsistency and > contradiction . . . ! > > The few details that I have are from my grandmother who passed away some > years ago, and I have found nothing for the SCHILDHAUER family in NZ on > the internet. I know they originally came from Hanover in Germany > sometime in the mid-1800's and I only have the name of Wilhelm ( or > William, born circa 1858/1860ish ) . . . > > So I am hoping to have some luck through this forum, and would be > overwhelmed to hear from Schildhauer relatives if there are any out there. > > Perhaps they can put me straight as regards to the family tree. > > Thanks in advance, Beth, Auckland > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >