Photograph of his headstone has gone to Allan and Olwyn.. buried at Featherston, maybe not on Cenotaph site, as he did not serve but he was on the list given to me from the defunct New Zealand Armed Forces Memorial Project had 100s to find through out the Wairarapa for them. If anyone needs a name checked out not on cenotaph I will check out and see buried at Featherston, all headstones are photographed as said previously. Adele Wairarapa researcher
Hi Graham You may like to try Carey Baptist College - they have an amazing Library. Url = http://carey.ac.nz/ OR the Baptist Union of NZ - they have an - hysterical whoops - Historical Society. Url = http://www.baptist.org.nz/ Ailsa DODGE Living in the Past Lane! ----- Original Message ----- From: J.M.de Montalk To: Graham Ogilvie ; NEW-Zealand@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [nz] Remuera Children's Home REMUERA CHILDREN'S HOME. LAYING FOUNDATION STONE. A large number of ladies and gentlemen interested in the Children's Home at Remuera, in connection with the Baptist Church, assembled this afternoon for the purpose of witness ing the ceremony of laying four foundation stones of the new building. There was the usual display of bunting, and at the close of the function afternoon tea was provided. This Home was founded by the F.ev. W. Burch and Mr. Robert Fry in October, 1893, being first lt-ated in Venaont Street, Ponsonby, and sixteen years later was vested in the Baptist Union of New Zealand. - I'm not sure how you'd contact Baptist authorities - try Archway at National Archives. Jeanette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Ogilvie" <gogilvie@xtra.co.nz> To: <NEW-Zealand@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:29 AM Subject: [nz] Remuera Children's Home > Hi, > > My mother's first cousin, Thomas Humphries was killed in a shooting > incident > in 1908, whilst he was a child at the Remuera Children's home. > > I have been unable to find out much about the home other than it was > originally in Ponsonby, then in Remuera, then in Manurewa. Paperspast has > also much info on the shooting incident. > > I would be grateful if any listers could give me more background on the > home, > > Regards, > > Graham Ogilvie > >
REMUERA CHILDREN'S HOME. LAYING FOUNDATION STONE. A large number of ladies and gentlemen interested in the Children's Home at Remuera, in connection with the Baptist Church, assembled this afternoon for the purpose of witness ing the ceremony of laying four foundation stones of the new building. There was the usual display of bunting, and at the close of the function afternoon tea was provided. This Home was founded by the F.ev. W. Burch and Mr. Robert Fry in October, 1893, being first lt-ated in Venaont Street, Ponsonby, and sixteen years later was vested in the Baptist Union of New Zealand. - I'm not sure how you'd contact Baptist authorities - try Archway at National Archives. Jeanette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Ogilvie" <gogilvie@xtra.co.nz> To: <NEW-Zealand@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:29 AM Subject: [nz] Remuera Children's Home > Hi, > > My mother's first cousin, Thomas Humphries was killed in a shooting > incident > in 1908, whilst he was a child at the Remuera Children's home. > > I have been unable to find out much about the home other than it was > originally in Ponsonby, then in Remuera, then in Manurewa. Paperspast has > also much info on the shooting incident. > > I would be grateful if any listers could give me more background on the > home, > > Regards, > > Graham Ogilvie > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Graham, my mother was in an Anglican children's home in Grey Lynn in the 1920s and I got her records from the Anglican Diocese office. If you can find out who ran the home you could contact them. Try Wises Post Office directories - they are on Ancestry now. Jeanette > My mother's first cousin, Thomas Humphries was killed in a shooting > incident > in 1908, whilst he was a child at the Remuera Children's home. > > I have been unable to find out much about the home other than it was > originally in Ponsonby, then in Remuera, then in Manurewa. Paperspast has > also much info on the shooting incident. > > I would be grateful if any listers could give me more background on the > home, > > Regards, > > Graham Ogilvie > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi, My mother's first cousin, Thomas Humphries was killed in a shooting incident in 1908, whilst he was a child at the Remuera Children's home. I have been unable to find out much about the home other than it was originally in Ponsonby, then in Remuera, then in Manurewa. Paperspast has also much info on the shooting incident. I would be grateful if any listers could give me more background on the home, Regards, Graham Ogilvie
Hi They are not on Cenotaph because they didn't embark for overseas. They could possibly be considered, but the question I am sure would asked is how many days in camp are required to qualify as WW1 service? 1 day in camp! Regards Phil (sent from iPad) > On 19/05/2014, at 7:49 pm, "Althea" <ajbthames@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > Regarding the situation of late reinforcements not being on Auckland > cenotaph or showing in the nominal rolls, raised today. > > I am looking for Maori Battalion enlistments and have this list of names > from a ballot 25 June 1918 > http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=THS19180625.2.5&srpos=4&e=--1867-----50-THA%2cTHS-1-byDA-on--2maori+ballot-- > > Looking at the files of a few, they look like they were in camp and at end > of year demobilised > > My question is : am I right in including them in a WWI register? > I have included soldiers such as these who were training > > Why are they not included on the cenotaph? > > Bye > Althea > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Regarding the situation of late reinforcements not being on Auckland cenotaph or showing in the nominal rolls, raised today. I am looking for Maori Battalion enlistments and have this list of names from a ballot 25 June 1918 http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=THS19180625.2.5&srpos=4&e=--1867-----50-THA%2cTHS-1-byDA-on--2maori+ballot-- Looking at the files of a few, they look like they were in camp and at end of year demobilised My question is : am I right in including them in a WWI register? I have included soldiers such as these who were training Why are they not included on the cenotaph? Bye Althea
Is anyone else using Ancestry not able to get images to open from search results? I go to an image but instead of displaying it asks me to type in the data from it (data which I can't see) and I can't get rid of the request screen. Keith Wellington Currently a paying subscriber to Ancestry, but not for much longer.
If anyone needs a photograph of a soldier buried at Featherston, I have them on the computer and also Cenotaph with Auckland War Memorial Museum have copies off also names off the Obelisk at the Cemetery, did also gave Heritage Museum in Featherston a cd with the photographs as well.. adele
A propos the discussion on Family Trees on a website, I’ve now moved mine to Rootsweb freepages from my ISP whose space was limiting here:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~parrottandbell/ Very helpful set-up guidelines there if anyone wants to try to set up your own. You may need a minimal bit of HTML, but there are lots of templates and guides on the internet. Legacy Family Tree software which I use creates a website from your data if you use that program. All my ideas and designs are sourced from the internet. Many people are quite happy to share their designs. For example, the date/time and (changing) “Good afternoon/morning/evening” greeting on my site is from a friendly UK genealogist.If anyone wants some direction just email me. I would suggest that anyone who is even a little bit diffident should give it a try. And once you’ve got your website address it’s not as if you have to fill it up with data straightway. You can just leave a page saying “under construction” and a contact email until you’re ready.BryanChch
Adele can you get in touch with me off list please regarding stuff at the Carterton Museum thanks Patsy
No problems here do you want to send me details of what you are trying to view to see if I can get it to work ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gmail Genmail" <genmailnz@gmail.com> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 19 May 2014 15:38 Subject: [nz] Ancestry > Is anyone else using Ancestry not able to get images to open from search > results? > > I go to an image but instead of displaying it asks me to type in the data > from it (data which I can't see) and I can't get rid of the request > screen. > > Keith Wellington > Currently a paying subscriber to Ancestry, but not for much longer. > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3950/7517 - Release Date: 05/18/14 > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3950/7517 - Release Date: 05/18/14
Hi Murray, The following is from notes taken from the book "The Wellington Regiment NZEF 1914-1919". 10th April left Zeitoun by train to join the Mediterranean Expeditionary Force. The Taranaki Company embarked in “Itorus” and proceeded to Lemnos and the run through the Agean Sea. 15th April Arrived at Lemnos and anchored in outer harbour. Sunday 25th April The “Lutzow” with Battalion Headquarters and Taranaki and Ruahine Companies on board, arrived off the Cove at Gaba Tepe at about midday and by 6pm all had got ashore. Bev Crabb > Can any lister advise when the NZ contingent sailed from Egypt to Turkey > and on which ship(s)? > > My guess is that it would have been 7 to 14 days before the Gallipoli > landing. > > I know when they left NZ and when they arrived in Alexandria. > The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Hi Listers Looking for a photograph of the above Bernard DIAMOND. Born in Christchurch 1891 parents Charles and Rosalind DIAMOND he died at Chunuk Bair Gallipoli in 1915. Does anyone know him or any family that may have a picture please thanks Patsy
Graham I can recall there being a Children's a Home in Remuera in the 50's & 60's. It was in Remuera Road as one was heading away from Newmarket on the left just past the block of shops at the corner of Bassett Road. If memory serves me correctly it only took girls. Cheers Dave MacKinven
It is immensely valuable to put your tree on line - none of us have all the facts, and by exposing one's work to review you learn more. Yet there are perennial complaints of "Lazy genealogists" who cut and paste work without attribution or checking, and there are many on line trees whose information is faulty and has long since been superseded by corrections. For this reason FamNet (www.famnet.org.nz) was designed from the beginning to make copying difficult (there is no Gedcom download), but to make linking easy. Suppose that you find that in my tree there is a line of ancestry that is related to you: instead of making a copy of it you link to my records. You get the benefit of an enlarged tree (and, let's face it, who among us doesn't want to have as large a tree as possible), yet the records remain mine and will be instantly updated if I ever update them. FamNet contains just over 15M records: within this there are about 1000 of my records but I could claim to have "a database of more 400,000 records". My grandmother's record (Hannah OLD) is linked to Mirk Smith's records of her OLD ancestry, these in turn link to Tony Cairns' Doole records, and so on. Each record has clear ownership, and a focus for queries. I'd hoped that this idea would get more support, but few people seem to have taken advantage of this facility. Robert Barnes phone +64-9-418 4415 mobile +64-27-459 2702 Skype: Robert.Barnes3 Address: 13A Havenwood Place, Birkenhead, Auckland 0626 www.jazzsoftware.co.nz www.famnet.net.nz www.robertb.co.nz
Hi Murray: Waite's history names several ships that took Australian and New Zealand forces from Alexandria to Gallipoli in April 1915. http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-WaiNewZ-b2.html Yours, John Wilson Subject: [nz] ANZAC Landing. > Can any lister advise when the NZ contingent sailed from Egypt to Turkey > and on which ship(s)? > > My guess is that it would have been 7 to 14 days before the Gallipoli > landing. > > I know when they left NZ and when they arrived in Alexandria. >
Hi Alan: Will have a look as I will be interested to see if any of the three WWI files on the 46th Reinforcements in Archives (AAYS series 8638, was Army AD1) contain lists of personnel. If they were attested the soldiers should have military personnel files at Archives, probably with high numbers in the 60 to 90 thousands) e.g. 72399. According to the article on Conscription in the Oxford Companion to NZ Military History, men between 20 & 46 were divided into 2 divisions; First: unmarried or recently married and Second the rest. Initially only First Division were balloted, but in October 1917 it was extended to married men without children. But when the war ended most of the 55,000 married men called up were entering camp or training. The Second Division League agitated in 1917 for better allowances for married men, widows pensions etc. Yours, John Wilson > Hi Folks, > > Wondered if any list member can point in the right direction to find a > list of the men who were in the 46th Reinforcements for WW1. > They went into camp but never left for overseas as the war finished. > They are not listed on the Auckland War Museum site as they did not serve > overseas. > > Thank you > Allan >
Hi Robert You said "and, let's face it, who among us doesn't want to have as large a tree as possible" Well I for one and I suspect a great many more do *not* want as large a tree as possible, or at least only one that is proven to be connected to me I aim to achieve a tree that is as well researched as I am able, the size of the tree is largely immaterial Which is where your theory falls down, whilst each individual may have confidence in their own research, they have no idea how the other researchers came by their information It may suit some researchers to have their family tree online, but it is far from necessary Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 19/05/2014 01:20, Robert Barnes wrote: > It is immensely valuable to put your tree on line - none of us have all the > facts, and by exposing one's work to review you learn more. Yet there are > perennial complaints of "Lazy genealogists" who cut and paste work without > attribution or checking, and there are many on line trees whose information > is faulty and has long since been superseded by corrections.
I've put a lot of my family research online and I have found over time that a number of people that have cut and pasted my content into their own websites without reference to me or mine. It's very easy to see word for word my own writing on others' pages. I used to get quite angry about it, now I'm more relaxed. Lazy researching is pretty obvious. Generally, sites with 'borrowed' information tend to be pretty rough affairs anyway, and clearly not in any way authoritative. The worst culprits are those who are only distantly related - many times removed. I've found those who are more closely related are more respectful and willing to collaborate and reference and share (properly). Regards Tracy Pilet -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Friday, 16 May 2014 9:17 p.m. To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] FAMILY TREES Hi Sue Its not a new problem, as long as man has been researching their roots, they have been getting it wrong (and right) and compiling false genealogies Obviously made easier by computerisation If you have a tree online OR give your research to another who may put it online or give to yet another person, the likelihood is that someone will copy that data and it will be added to this that or the other site The only way to avert this problem is not to put your data online or give it to another I would though point out that in the main, data is not ours, it is public record and we don't own it, if we don't put it online ourselves, there is little to stop someone else researching the same lines (accurately or inaccurately) from putting the same data as you have online All we can do is conduct our own research in as accurate a manner as we are able, what others do is largely beyond our control I have let other researchers know they have errors and have generally been ignored A one world tree is not uncommon, familysearch, Ancestry etc all use one, apart from the system of entry I do not believe any of them "police" their sites (and neither should they), ie its down to the person inputting the data Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/05/2014 06:08, Les & Sue Tuner wrote: > I dont know if any folk on family websites, but a family member has > just informed me people are duplicating family trees especially for > A Geni family website which is now owned by My Heritage. Been told > Geni wants to make a ONE WORLD FAMILY TREE not sure if they are being > paid or not a lot of my friends family trees have been duplicated one > person i can see is up to it maybe more. is up to it. > Mine has been done to though i have never put any of my Family trees > on any websites a distant family member has and what hes put up is > mostly wrong so if these a one World family trees somewhere down the > line people are going to be paying for wrong information as these folk > never get in touch just follow and duplicate. Its sad when its come > to this. Sue The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message