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    1. [nz] Award
    2. Adele Pentony-Graham
    3. something out of the ordinary sorry Hugh! I was awarded on Saturday night at Carterton Events Centre with the Charles Rooking Carter Award for my researches.. felt thrilled, something I never expected.. the evening was wonderful in the new Events Centre a few Awards before the dinner for 200 guests, then more afterwards, I was No.1 had to be didnt I.. I had all my special friends around me plus the daughter who is now in touch after 13 years in hiding! Grannie was delighted to have been recognised for all my historic researches.. I am also assisting John Martin, Parliamentary Historian into Charles Rooking Carter, he has all my research done here and in Westmorland and London on Carter for a book.. nice to work with the experts.. On FB.. I have down loaded the Times Age article which is me receiving the Award on Saturday 14th June 2014. For someone who was hopeless at school in London for history, my has she improved, have let the school know this morning too! Said everything comes to those who wait and time it has taken, but love history now, as doing something in my homeland as well, was supposed to have been there this month, but cancelled due to illness again. Just as well not there, as wouldnt have received this Award would I! thanks.. -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

    06/17/2014 02:51:16
    1. [nz] 1983 - October BMD Christchurch Press added
    2. Beverley
    3. Hello All I have just added the BMD of October 1983 from the Christchurch Press do email for a newspaper copy Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1983.October.BMD.Christchurch.Press.html

    06/17/2014 01:47:43
    1. [nz] Teachers records.
    2. Noeleen Sutton
    3. To Stuart, Teachers records were offered back to teachers to uplift when the Educations Boards ceased to be. Those not removed were thrown out, from what I understand. This was the case for Auckland Education Board and I expect for others. The majority of the salary cards for those under Hamilton and Auckland areas were saved and are in Archives NZ, Auckland. At present they are being indexed and placed on Archway but only up to 'M' [midway thru] to date although later surnames can be accessed. Married women are under married name but cross-indexed with maiden name. Some cards are more detailed than others and may include up to 50 years of a teachers career, listing all schools, including Native schools and delightful personal items of days off for their marriage or a family members death, etc. Great for those researching teachers born late 1800's with many years of teaching ahead. It's a "lucky dip" as to what is on the cards and close off date was late 1960's to 1974. Noeleen.

    06/16/2014 04:49:25
    1. Re: [nz] Teaching career 1930s Robert George LEDLIE
    2. Graham Hoult
    3. Hi Stuart It may have been different in the 1930s, but when my wife qualified as a primary teacher in the late 1950s, the scene (as I recall it) was 2 years at Teachers' Training College, including short stints in schools under experienced teachers followed by a year in a reasonably large school as a Probationary Assistant teacher. If they had had a successful probationary year, the trainee would be awarded a Teacher's Certificate. Some trainees would be deemed unsuitable and that was it. Once a trainee had been awarded a Teacher's Certificate they were then free to apply for a full time teaching position. Most applied for a number of positions, but usually had to accept one or more relieving positions - some of only a few weeks duration - until selected for a permanent position. From 1938, it was decreed that primary teachers could not advance beyond a certain salary level until they had served three years at a country school. This was known as "Country Service". A career teacher would usually opt to do his or her Country Service early in their teaching career. It was great for bringing fresh blood to country districts, as many city girls were attracted to rural chaps. > Was that a three year course? Not normally, but in the 1950s, and possibly earlier, some Teachers' College students doing specialist subjects often did do an extra year at College eg music, speech therapy,art, nature study - but they were generally allocated across a number of schools. IF things were the same in the 1930s as I remember being told in the 1950s, I would expect that, AND IF Robert George LEDLIE started at Training College in 1936, he is likely to have finished College at the end of 1937, and probably had a placement as a Probationary Teacher in his general area of where he had trained in 1938. Given that Robert was appointed Assistant Master at Ngataki in October 1939, and that he had attended Dunedin Teacher's College, a likely scenario is that he would probably have applied for positions in 1939, and filled one or more relieving positions in Otago, - then seen the position advertised at Ngataki in the Far North, between Kaitaia and North Cape, and though "Why not?". It's quite isolated up there, as you well know, Stuart :-) On the other hand, as Robert was born in November 1914, and would have been aged 21 at the beginning of 1936, he may well have been starting his second year at Training College in that year. In that case, advance these positions one year (excepting the posting to Ngataki) : ie TC say 1935/1936, probationary year 1937, looking for a permanent job from beginning of 1938. For what it's worth, a Robert George LEDLIE, schoolteacher, is listed in the 1938 Dunedin North electoral roll as living at Knox College, so he may have been teaching in a nearby Dunedin school at that time. That's my penny's worth. I am more than happy to be corrected by anyone with better information. Hope it helps Graham Hoult --- original message --- Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:55:03 +1200 From: "spark" <spark@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [nz] Teaching career 1930s Robert George LEDLIE How can I find information about a young teacher?s career in the 1930s? I know about his military service and death in WWII, but I?m not clear about his movements before he enlisted. Robert George LEDLIE was at Teacher?s College in Dunedin in 1936 (I have one of his textbooks). Was that a three year course? In October 1939 (Auckland Star reference) he was appointed Assistant Master at Ngataki school in the Far North, presumably starting there at the beginning of 1940. In October 1940 he enlisted for the Army in Kaitaia, and in December 1940 was balloted for military service. He entered Burnham Camp on 7 January 1941, and embarked from Wellington with the 4th Reinforcements on 1st February 1941, after one month?s training. George died in a POW camp in Milan on 6 September 1942. Would he have had any teaching appointment before 1940? Are teaching appointments available anywhere? _______________________ Stuart Park Kerikeri, New Zealand spark@xtra.co.nz?

    06/16/2014 02:52:50
    1. [nz] Orokonui Home
    2. Les & Sue Tuner
    3. hi, I see people talking on the above my dad worked there for many yrs and so did i help on one of the Villias. It was a most beautiful place My Murray was the Gardener and he had the place looking delightfull, I could talk more about it buy may bore people. Thank you Sue

    06/16/2014 12:55:49
    1. Re: [nz] Legasy 7 question agaian
    2. Wendy Howard
    3. Hi Helene, Do you mean how would you enter it in Legacy, specifically? In the Individual Information window, there are specific fields for birth, christening/baptism, death and burial. I use those for the named purposes. For a funeral, I would add an event if it were a different date to the burial. If there isn't already a Funeral event, you can create your own and tailor it to your needs. There are also separate Notes areas, where you could add the information instead. There's an excellent mailing list for support with Legacy, run by the makers of the program, if you'd like to learn more. It's great for learning how to do new things with the program, and making good use of its features. See http://legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp - it's the "Legacy User Group" in the blue box. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy **Please reply to the list** Helene Godfrey said the following on 16/06/2014 16:35: > How would you best show, death, funeral & burial dates. > My dad died 27/09/1994, Funeral was 10/10/1994, but the burial (gravsatt in swedish) > was not until 24/05/1995. > just interested in how you all show it. > Thanks Helene >

    06/16/2014 12:15:41
    1. Re: [nz] marrying a niece ? why not
    2. Barry and Mary Boekman
    3. Mine was in England in about 1890. I don't know what the law was then. Anyone know? Mary -------------------------------------------------- From: "Judith Harper" <quester@orcon.net.nz> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 5:12 PM To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [nz] marrying a niece ? why not > > > This marriage may well have been forbidden in the earlier Book of Common > Prayer (e.g., 1662) but that is now completely separate from the Law of > the land, especially in NZ. > > So, as Migs says - time? place? > > Judith > > > > > > > On 16/06/2014 12:52 p.m., Migs Eder wrote: >> More information please Rowan. >> >> wife One and her brother are full siblings, etc? >> >> In theory someone can't marry a person who has been their niece. Did >> they marry away from home and lie? Lots more we need to know, >> including, what year, what place >> >> migs >> >>> From: Rowan Gibbs <Rowan.Gibbs@paradise.net.nz> >>> >>> a man married twice and his second wife was the daughter of the son >>> of his >>> first wife?s father >>> >>> would she be described as his niece by marriage -- or as what? >>> >>> >> A nation is an association of reasonable beings united in the >> peaceful sharing of the things they cherish; therefore to determine >> the quality of a nation, you must consider what those things are." - >> St Augustine, in The City of God XIX, 24. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/16/2014 11:18:08
    1. Re: [nz] marrying a niece ? why not
    2. Judith Harper
    3. This marriage may well have been forbidden in the earlier Book of Common Prayer (e.g., 1662) but that is now completely separate from the Law of the land, especially in NZ. So, as Migs says - time? place? Judith On 16/06/2014 12:52 p.m., Migs Eder wrote: > More information please Rowan. > > wife One and her brother are full siblings, etc? > > In theory someone can't marry a person who has been their niece. Did > they marry away from home and lie? Lots more we need to know, > including, what year, what place > > migs > >> From: Rowan Gibbs <Rowan.Gibbs@paradise.net.nz> >> >> a man married twice and his second wife was the daughter of the son >> of his >> first wife?s father >> >> would she be described as his niece by marriage -- or as what? >> >> > A nation is an association of reasonable beings united in the > peaceful sharing of the things they cherish; therefore to determine > the quality of a nation, you must consider what those things are." - > St Augustine, in The City of God XIX, 24. > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/16/2014 11:12:04
    1. Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869
    2. marina
    3. Not everything is on Archway. Suggest you contact, Archives New Zealand, and make an enquiry. They hold surviving Coroner's Inquests from c.1840. I hold a Coroner's Inquest for early 1868, Canterbury Region, for a river drowning. Marina I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in 1863. Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on it. Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? Any ideas greatly appreciated. The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/16/2014 11:09:07
    1. [nz] Legacy 7
    2. Mary Legarth
    3. My Legacy has under the name of, say, the husband, click on his name & the square comes up with Born ( space for date) at ( space for place of Birth ) below that is the same spaces for; Baptism Death Burial Then to the right of each of those, click and there are places for notes. e.g. Death; I write how old he was , maybe who the Informant was . Have you clicked on help on the very top line ? Mary -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helene Godfrey Sent: Monday, 16 June 2014 4:35 p.m. To: NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Legasy 7 question agaian How would you best  show, death, funeral & burial dates. My dad died 27/09/1994, Funeral was 10/10/1994, but the burial (gravsatt in swedish) was not until 24/05/1995. just interested in how you all show it. Thanks Helene The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9950 (20140616) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9950 (20140616) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9950 (20140616) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

    06/16/2014 11:07:40
    1. Re: [nz] Teaching career 1930s Robert George LEDLIE
    2. spark
    3. Thanks for l the helpful comments. In fact DIA (gazette@dia.govt.nz) run a very helpful service, fast and free - they will email an image of a Gazette page provided you know what page to ask for. I now have two references for him in the 1940 Gazette, both being alphabetical lists of teachers. Page 528 says he holds a C certificate and his grading is P.195, page 599 says his graded number is 195 and he holds an A position in Auckland District. Not sure I can unravel the arcane matter of teacher grading, and not sure I will be any further ahead if I could! _______________________ Stuart Park Kerikeri, New Zealand spark@xtra.co.nz  Visit my Glass blog at http://newzealandglass.blogspot.co.nz/ -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Howard Sent: Monday, 16 June 2014 12:54 p.m. To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] Teaching career 1930s Robert George LEDLIE Exactly what I was going to say! :-) My only addition is - the New Zealand Society of Genealogists (NZSG, http://genealogy.org.nz/) has a copy of the NZ Gazette on hard-disk. Anyone can visit their library (FRC) and search it. NZSG members can also request a search from the Research Service, by email or post; details for this service are on the web site (in the members'-only section) and in the magazine. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Graham L Jones said the following on 16/06/2014 12:06: > Teaching appointments and careers are listed in the NZ Gazettes for > the early years of 1900, not sure when that ceased but worth a look. > > Graham > > On 16/06/2014 9:55 a.m., spark wrote: >> How can I find information about a young teacher’s career in the >> 1930s? I know about his military service and death in WWII, but I’m >> not clear about his movements before he enlisted. >> >> Robert George LEDLIE was at Teacher’s College in Dunedin in 1936 (I >> have one of his textbooks). Was that a three year course? In October >> 1939 (Auckland Star reference) he was appointed Assistant Master at >> Ngataki school in the Far North, presumably starting there at the >> beginning of 1940. In October >> 1940 he enlisted for the Army in Kaitaia, and in December 1940 was >> balloted for military service. He entered Burnham Camp on 7 January >> 1941, and embarked from Wellington with the 4th Reinforcements on 1st >> February 1941, after one month’s training. George died in a POW camp >> in Milan on 6 September 1942. >> >> Would he have had any teaching appointment before 1940? Are teaching >> appointments available anywhere? >> >> _______________________ >> Stuart Park >> Kerikeri, New Zealand >> spark@xtra.co.nz The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/16/2014 10:07:15
    1. Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869
    2. J.M.de Montalk
    3. I had a child's accidental death in 1856 and tried to get the Coroner's report from National Archives, only to be told that often there simply wasn't an inquest at that time. They do hold a few early ones, but in this case the child died in Gisborne (or Turanganui as it was), and it was well out of the way so no inquest was held. It might be worth contacting National Archives in person. They let me view a sort of ledger which had an index of names for whom inquests had been held in that era, and I don't know if it has been put online. Jeanette > > I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in > 1863. > Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the > name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking > is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in > 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. > I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that > John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's > report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death > certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on > it. > Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? > Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have > birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. > William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. > The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in > 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article > states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child > was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she > married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" > Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? > Any ideas greatly appreciated. > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/16/2014 10:04:13
    1. Re: [nz] Teaching career 1930s Robert George LEDLIE
    2. John Wilson
    3. Hi Stuart: The schools for that period (1930s) are probably in the Education Department Annual Reports, some of which used to list schools by district with a list of teachers, giving salary and grade. However I could not see him listed in the AJHRs online. And Ngataki School may have been a Native School which may have been administered differently. Teachers by grade were listed in some New Zealand Gazette also. Yours, John Wilson . Subject: [nz] Teaching career 1930s Robert George LEDLIE How can I find information about a young teacher's career in the 1930s? I know about his military service and death in WWII, but I'm not clear about his movements before he enlisted. Robert George LEDLIE was at Teacher's College in Dunedin in 1936 (I have one of his textbooks). Was that a three year course? In October 1939 (Auckland Star reference) he was appointed Assistant Master at Ngataki school in the Far North, presumably starting there at the beginning of 1940. In October 1940 he enlisted for the Army in Kaitaia, and in December 1940 was balloted for military service. He entered Burnham Camp on 7 January 1941, and embarked from Wellington with the 4th Reinforcements on 1st February 1941, after one month's training. George died in a POW camp in Milan on 6 September 1942. Would he have had any teaching appointment before 1940? Are teaching appointments available anywhere?

    06/16/2014 09:34:10
    1. [nz] John Daley Death in 1869
    2. I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in 1863. Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on it. Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? Any ideas greatly appreciated.

    06/16/2014 09:21:28
    1. Re: [nz] marrying a niece
    2. Barry and Mary Boekman
    3. My grandfather's uncle married my grandfather's sister - caused a bit of a ruction in the family!! So it does happen. Mary -------------------------------------------------- From: "Migs Eder" <migseder@clear.net.nz> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 12:52 PM To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Subject: [nz] marrying a niece > More information please Rowan. > > wife One and her brother are full siblings, etc? > > In theory someone can't marry a person who has been their niece. Did > they marry away from home and lie? Lots more we need to know, > including, what year, what place > > migs > >> From: Rowan Gibbs <Rowan.Gibbs@paradise.net.nz> >> >> a man married twice and his second wife was the daughter of the son >> of his >> first wife?s father >> >> would she be described as his niece by marriage -- or as what? >> >> > > A nation is an association of reasonable beings united in the > peaceful sharing of the things they cherish; therefore to determine > the quality of a nation, you must consider what those things are." - > St Augustine, in The City of God XIX, 24. > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/16/2014 08:32:10
    1. [nz] (NZ) Lower Hutt Cemeteries On-Line
    2. Paul Jones
    3. Hi Everyone Have only spotted this yesterday - have been waiting for them to come on-line for awhile and not sure when it did. Haven't seen anyone post it here so here is the link. http://cemeteries.huttcity.govt.nz/ Cheers Paul

    06/16/2014 08:03:36
    1. Re: [nz] Teaching career 1930s Robert George LEDLIE
    2. Wendy Howard
    3. Exactly what I was going to say! :-) My only addition is - the New Zealand Society of Genealogists (NZSG, http://genealogy.org.nz/) has a copy of the NZ Gazette on hard-disk. Anyone can visit their library (FRC) and search it. NZSG members can also request a search from the Research Service, by email or post; details for this service are on the web site (in the members'-only section) and in the magazine. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Graham L Jones said the following on 16/06/2014 12:06: > Teaching appointments and careers are listed in the NZ Gazettes for the > early years of 1900, not sure when that ceased but worth a look. > > Graham > > On 16/06/2014 9:55 a.m., spark wrote: >> How can I find information about a young teacher’s career in the 1930s? I >> know about his military service and death in WWII, but I’m not clear about >> his movements before he enlisted. >> >> Robert George LEDLIE was at Teacher’s College in Dunedin in 1936 (I have one >> of his textbooks). Was that a three year course? In October 1939 (Auckland >> Star reference) he was appointed Assistant Master at Ngataki school in the >> Far North, presumably starting there at the beginning of 1940. In October >> 1940 he enlisted for the Army in Kaitaia, and in December 1940 was balloted >> for military service. He entered Burnham Camp on 7 January 1941, and >> embarked from Wellington with the 4th Reinforcements on 1st February 1941, >> after one month’s training. George died in a POW camp in Milan on 6 >> September 1942. >> >> Would he have had any teaching appointment before 1940? Are teaching >> appointments available anywhere? >> >> _______________________ >> Stuart Park >> Kerikeri, New Zealand >> spark@xtra.co.nz

    06/16/2014 06:54:18
    1. [nz] marrying a niece
    2. Migs Eder
    3. More information please Rowan. wife One and her brother are full siblings, etc? In theory someone can't marry a person who has been their niece. Did they marry away from home and lie? Lots more we need to know, including, what year, what place migs > From: Rowan Gibbs <Rowan.Gibbs@paradise.net.nz> > > a man married twice and his second wife was the daughter of the son > of his > first wife?s father > > would she be described as his niece by marriage -- or as what? > > A nation is an association of reasonable beings united in the peaceful sharing of the things they cherish; therefore to determine the quality of a nation, you must consider what those things are." - St Augustine, in The City of God XIX, 24.

    06/16/2014 06:52:39
    1. Re: [nz] marrying a niece
    2. Ainslie
    3. Hi Folks, Having grown up in NZ and now following back through a few generations of family history around the Otago/Southland regions it seems there was quite a dearth of available womenfolk of marriage-able age and/or status! One wonders how close some families actually were in those days! Given that a man could lose his wife during childbirth and be stuck out in the sticks far from a social scene where he might find a replacement wife to help raise his children. My mother worked for a time in Nelson when my sister and I were in primary school after our move back to NZ from Tasmania in the mid 1950s. Mum came home with some rather 'hairy' stories about a young lass working with her whose children were known in the community as her siblings but in actual fact had been fathered by her own father along with the children her mother produced. How the quality of living has improved since that era!!!!! (but that no doubt opens up another can of worms!) Cheers Ainslie.

    06/16/2014 06:28:16
    1. Re: [nz] Teaching career 1930s Robert George LEDLIE
    2. Graham L Jones
    3. Teaching appointments and careers are listed in the NZ Gazettes for the early years of 1900, not sure when that ceased but worth a look. Graham On 16/06/2014 9:55 a.m., spark wrote: > How can I find information about a young teacher’s career in the 1930s? I > know about his military service and death in WWII, but I’m not clear about > his movements before he enlisted. > > Robert George LEDLIE was at Teacher’s College in Dunedin in 1936 (I have one > of his textbooks). Was that a three year course? In October 1939 (Auckland > Star reference) he was appointed Assistant Master at Ngataki school in the > Far North, presumably starting there at the beginning of 1940. In October > 1940 he enlisted for the Army in Kaitaia, and in December 1940 was balloted > for military service. He entered Burnham Camp on 7 January 1941, and > embarked from Wellington with the 4th Reinforcements on 1st February 1941, > after one month’s training. George died in a POW camp in Milan on 6 > September 1942. > > Would he have had any teaching appointment before 1940? Are teaching > appointments available anywhere? > > _______________________ > Stuart Park > Kerikeri, New Zealand > spark@xtra.co.nz > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Graham Jones, 139 Hokianga Road, DARGAVILLE 0310 09-439-8519

    06/16/2014 06:06:31